File talk:Russian Federation (orthographic projection) - Annexed Territories disputed.svg

 

This biased picture should be removed

What is your source? Xx236 (talk) 08:30, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

It should be restored to the previous image, showing the internationally recognized borders of Russia.--3E1I5S8B9RF7 (talk) 14:31, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

The map shows Russia's territorial claims Gaston Fer (talk) 17:12, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

Kherson City isn't controlled by Russia's forces anymore, so I don't see the point in this map.--3E1I5S8B9RF7 (talk) 08:45, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

There is something I don't get strait: If Russia annexed Abkazhia as The Republic of Abkazhia, Why is not shown in the map (1). In the most recent UN Assembly regarding the legal issue about Referenda and annexations by Russia, the outcome of votes resulted in Not recognition of those oblasts annexed illegally by The Russian Federation, until now are "occupied territories". Frome my previous arguments I am quite curious about Why Wikipedia is so biased to show the actual map of The Russian Federation with the occupied territories of Ukraine, furthermore without the territories of Abkazhia plus South Osethia from The Republic of Georgia. This is not a good service to Humanity and represents a misinformation. Please fix as possible. Marlon Hernandez Sandoval (talk) 03:43, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

This should be removed because it violates a neutral point of view - it’s Putin’s propaganda. The territories aren’t and they’ve never been disputed by anybody. They are only temporary occupied — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 46.204.72.244 (talk) 16:05, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

So, the actual problem is not with the image, but with the description calling it "disputed" while most people would call it "occupied". Isn't moving it to a more apt title not a better option then? And could everybody stop ignoring the Kuril Islands, please. Aliter (talk) 20:37, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

I think "occupied" is also not suitable here because Ukraine is freeing these areas very fast. Just "annexed" or "claimed" would be better. This would then be "Russian Federation (orthographic projection) with annexed territories as of December 2022 marked.svg" GPSLeo (talk) 20:49, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

our map shows Russia's Territorial claims, Wikipedia can't just remove the image because that would be delegitimizing The Russian claims, which would break Wikipedia's neutral point of view, as well they can't mark them as part of Russia in dark green, I personally think it's okay to call them disputed territories, because that's what they are. A dispute between Ukraine and Russia, now that Ukraine has more international support does not mean that there is no dispute Gaston Fer (talk) 13:22, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Outdated image

The portions of the areas Russia claims and controls (including annexed in war) should be dark green, with the land counterattacked by Ukraine still in light green. Eshaan011 (talk) 11:07, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

I think we may need to break the standard and use a three-color scheme: internationally recognized and undisputed as Russia, claimed and controlled but disputed and unrecognized land in Ukraine, and claimed but uncontrolled land in Ukraine. DecafPotato (talk) 05:19, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

Kuril Islands

@Jamie Eilat: Although I agree that Kuril Islands is also a disputed territory of Russia, the Kuril Islands dispute is not the point of this map, and we should be wary of changing things on existing maps, see COM:OVERWRITE. Your recent changes across files make it possible for local editors to say that these are not the maps depicting Russian-annexed territories of Ukraine, even though that was their original purpose. Please create separate files for Kuril Islands use case. stjn^[ru] 13:32, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

択捉島など日本との係争地なので色を変えるべきです N wataru (talk) 06:43, 2 August 2023 (UTC)