Commons:Featured picture candidates/Set/Nazca Lines

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Nazca Lines, not featured[edit]

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  •  Info I recently came across these excellent images of the Nazca Lines, a set of huge geoglyphs carved into the Nazca Desert in Peru, taken by Poco a poco from an aeroplane. They are all high-resolution, sharp, and, especially considering the technical challenges of shooting from the air through a window, very good quality - indeed, I can find no better images of the Nazca Lines, certainly none available under a Creative Commons license, on the internet. The first three images are already featured (although Poco has made a few improvements to them) and are included for completeness, but the other images are equal in quality to the ones already promoted, and thus in my opinion deserve equally to be featured. I appreciate there may be a question-mark over whether the scope of this set nomination is sufficiently defined to be featured, since there are several dozen Nazca geoglyphs, but please do consider that the set includes all the most famous geoglyphs and the ones that are most frequently used to illustrate the site; many of the ones that Poco has not photographed are merely straight lines or geometric shapes and would probably have insufficient 'wow' to be FP anyway. See what you think, anyway - I think this is a high-quality collection of images that have immense wow and are also very valuable to the project. Created by Poco a poco - uploaded by Poco a poco - nominated by Cmao20 -- Cmao20 (talk) 14:27, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support -- Cmao20 (talk) 14:27, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support -- Eatcha (talk) 14:51, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support.--Vulphere 15:00, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment I don't think you can include files that are FPs already in the nom, set or not, it will totally mess with the FP system and all the logs. Please remove them from the set. As for the rest, I don't see this as in scope for a set nom. It is a bit like nominating "some of the most famous UNESCO heritage sites in Europe". I think you have to nominate them one by one. These big wholesale noms are not what the Set option was intended for. Similar noms: MAV I and MAV Canidae --Cart (talk) 15:57, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Cart, no problem; I didn't know it would mess with the codes, the ones that are already FP are gone now. As for your other objection, I did think this criticism might be offered - if you look on Poco's talk page I discussed it with him and came to the conclusion to go ahead anyway and see what happens. Ultimately the way I see it is that a) this set includes virtually all the most famous Nazca Lines, and the overwhelming majority of the rest are merely simple lines and shapes, and b) The images are all of very strong quality and I suspect they would all pass if nominated one by one - thus, since they are all images of the same phenomenon, it would be much simpler to promote them as a set rather than take up the community's time with the bureaucratic task of making people vote on every single one. But as I say, I understand your criticism and respect that point of view. We'll see what others think, if the set idea gets slated I'll nominate some individually. Cmao20 (talk) 17:40, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ok, we'll see what others say. Wrt taking up the community's time, voters still have to examine every one of these individually in a part of a set and as a set compare them with each other to see if the quality is the same across all of it, so it will actually take more time for the rest of us in the long run. Some voters may even be reluctant to do such a big job all at once. The only one "saving time" will be you since you don't have to create so many nominations. --Cart (talk) 18:22, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Agree with Cart. Where are :
  1. the pelican ?
  2. the bear ?
  3. the orca ?
  4. the duck ?
  5. the horns ?
  6. the tribe ?
  7. the solar calendar ?
  8. the lizard ?
  9. the creatures ? Etc.
For a set, the guidelines say "Not acceptable: A few breeds of cats". Similarly we have here a few Nazca lines. There are also some technical problems, so please nominate them separately -- Basile Morin (talk) 03:39, 13 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Your list of non-included figures is not a solid argument to me. Of course that the set here does not contain all Nazca Lines. There are hundreds of them, and some of them are still to be discovered. In your list I haven't found any well known lines, in fact, I never heard about some of them, and I read a bit about the topic before and after my trip. Btw the first on in your list is also mine and on Commons, no problem to add it to the set :) unfortunately the Daily Star Newspaper does not seem to understand our licenses :( If you let me know where those technical issues are, I can try to fix them. Poco2 13:23, 13 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
This is not how sets work. "A group of images which show all possible variations of a particular class of object." Do these 8 images show all possible variations of the Nazca lines ? No. There are more than 20 important here, and yes more aside also. This is just a big bunch of pictures on the same subject, not a proper set. I noticed technical issues on at least two of them above. However this is not the moment to review each of them individually, sorry. Now I've spent enough time on this nomination already. This is like nominating 8 pictures of the best temples of a big site like Angkor Wat, or 8 canidae skeletons. It doesn't make a whole -- Basile Morin (talk) 14:31, 13 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 I withdraw my nomination OK, no problem. It seems that the community has more-or-less decided this isn't a valid scope for a set. Will nominate some individually. Cmao20 (talk) 21:16, 13 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Confirmed results:
Result: 6 support, 4 oppose, 1 neutral → not featured. /--Cmao20 (talk) 21:18, 13 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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