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Photography workshop
This workshop is part of the Graphics Lab, a project aimed to improve the graphical content of the Wikimedia projects. More information about the lab can be found on its main page and requests pages (Illustrations ; Photographs ; Maps ; Video and Sound). To ask questions or make a suggestions, see the talk page of the graphic lab page.
This specific page is the requests page for the Photography Workshop. Anyone can make a request for a photograph to be improved. The standard format for making a request is shown below, along with general advice, and should be followed.
Make a request
Use the following template when making a new request, replacing the examples with your image(s) and request(s):
<gallery align="center"> File:IMAGENAME.EXT|Description of image File:IMAGE#TWO.EXT|2nd image (If there is one) File:ETCETCETC.EXT|Don't request too many at once, though </gallery> '''Request:''' Do something with them... ~~~~ '''Graphist opinion:'''
See also [edit]
- Category:Images for cleanup
- meta:Philip Greenspun illustration project/Requests
- Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Photography workshop (higher traffic, requests may be fulfilled quicker at the Wikipedia lab)
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Natlib [edit]
Request: See above.PS: Don't create any derivative files or other version just upload over. Thanks.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 09:46, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s):there are rules about overwriting files, and substantial restauration is one of them. --Vera (talk) 12:33, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
- Anyone else?--KAVEBEAR (talk) 01:37, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what you're requestion. These pictures seem to have gone through the EN Wiki graphics lab last February. They look fine. --Vera (talk) 12:06, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
Fix of colour banding in the sky [edit]
Request: Could you fix the colour banding in the sky? Thanks --Wolfgang Moroder (talk) 07:48, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s):
- I don't think it is a colour banding but it seems to be a very weak stratum of a cloud (stratus). ―― Phoenix7777 (talk) 09:48, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
- The sky appears to have colour banding due to palette manipulation, possibly due to post-processing with Adobe Photoshop. Using GIMP, I isolated the blue sky as a separate layer, omitting the jet contrails near the center, and applied a Gaussian blur with an extremely large radius to blend the colours into a continuum, then merged the blurred layer onto the original image. It does look better on my monitor now, compared to the previous version. — Quicksilver@ 21:51, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry to say, but second version looks worse on my monitor (more stripes on sky). --Ivar (talk) 20:37, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- I tried again but it seems that the banding can't really be removed.--Hic et nunc (talk) 09:15, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry to say, but second version looks worse on my monitor (more stripes on sky). --Ivar (talk) 20:37, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
is this any better ? Penyulap ☏ 08:48, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
- I don't think so. The banding is to see as in any other version.--Hic et nunc (talk) 15:13, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, this project will need to be abandoned, as Wikimedia Commons has undertaken to discard older versions of graphics, probably to save storage space, and to resolve this issue the original uploader (Wolfgang Moroder) would need to provide a fresh copy of the original image file. This could be done by uploading a new version and ovewriting the present version, or placing a copy of the file on a large file transfer service, such as Dropbox, then posting a link to that file. Bear in mind, Wikimedia Commons and Wikipedia are having problems with thumbnails not being updated, no matter how often one purges the page or clears one's browser cache. Comments above relating to seeing no improvement are most likely not due to the image edits being ineffective. The only way to tell for sure is to upload the image and wait 7 to 20 days to see if the thumbnails have been regenerated. In the alternative, create a dummy article in Wikipedia using the image and size it at least one pixel larger or smaller than any of the previous sizes used in all wikis to force the wiki software to generate a new thumbnail for evaluation. — Quicksilver@ 05:43, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
- P.S. — As of this moment thumbnails appear to be updating normally on Wikimedia Commons, as long as one purges the page, clears one's browser cache and reloads the page, but Wikipedia is showing severe lag in thumbnail updates. This has been a recurring problem for about two years. — Quicksilver@ 15:28, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
It's not resolved to the satisfaction of the requester, nobody has produced a decent solution just yet, I'd leave it here because someone will come across it and fix it up sooner or later. Penyulap ☏ 15:11, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
Noise reduction of background [edit]
Request: Please reduce noise in the blue background --Wolfgang Moroder (talk) 06:46, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s):
Done I reduced noise. If anybody is able to get a better work, feel free to revert.--Hic et nunc (talk) 09:30, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
- Here is a cgi version. If you care to go in that direction I can work the shadows and colour as you please. (like the base and so on) Penyulap ☏ 09:45, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks, looks fine to me --Wolfgang Moroder (talk) 12:56, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
Request Sorry, didn't see the color banding, the hue is nice. Can you fix it please? --Wolfgang Moroder (talk) 06:56, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
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- however, it's mathematically pure and should do the job as intended. While adding the image and shadow to the render, I think I improved presentation a little, is this ok ? also, I can upload shadows and background separate from the image of the artwork if you like. Penyulap ☏ 07:50, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
Just a comment here... this "noise" in the background of the original image is just the texture of the background and isn't something that needs to be "fixed". Not every background needs to be smooth and groovy. Some of us like a simple non-obtrusive background that doesn't overwhelm the subject. Just sayin. – JBarta (talk) 07:19, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
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- It looks like corrugated card background, sorry, I have redone the next render without that look, is it the right direction otherwise though ? I can try to squeeze in some more hues, I should examine the numbers that it is producing on those grains to see how far apart in spectrum they are, and make them smaller as well.
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Don't care, am not listening. pls tell someone else. Penyulap ☏ 18:32, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
- Well obviously you are listening or you wouldn't have replied. If it makes you feel any better, the suggestion was aimed at anyone (though, admittedly primarily at you because you made the edit). – JBarta (talk) 18:41, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
Joining images [edit]
Request: With photoshop elements 10, I have problems joining File:Journal de Bruxelles nr 142 1800 (414).png and File:Journal de Bruxelles nr 142 1800 (415).png to create a downsized File:Journal de Bruxelles nr 142 1800 (414, 415).png (middle white space removed). The fotomerge options seem to demand a common merge area to work. Under elements 8 it was no problem as I could manually align the two before joining. Has anyone handy solutions? I dont know if the mentioned paint solution would work with png files. (make a big empty file and paste the two files in it). Smiley.toerist (talk) 13:11, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
A much bigger ambition is to join the files File:Borinage SNCV.png, File:Hainaut centre SNCV names.png and File:Charleroi SNCV SNCB maximum extend.png or File:Borinage SNCV openstreetmap.png, File:Hainaut centre SNCV openstreetmap.png and File:Charleroi SNCV-SNCB openstreetmap background.png. They are exactly the same scale, precisely aligned and the same colour lines. They have different heights. Smiley.toerist (talk) 13:11, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s):
Combined pp 414-415 of the text. Darkened it a little and uploaded as JPG. PNG's can be problematic on a wiki (as you can see). For this, a low compression JPG is not only completely adequate, it's a lot less trouble. – JBarta (talk) 03:17, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
- I use png not jpg because jpg is unstable. I have to do a lot of manual cleaning between the letters after the initial scan. The rerendering after every edit creates a lot of noise. A clean white space doesnt remain a clean white space. One can always make a jpg version for practical use and keep the png version as master copy. Smiley.toerist (talk) 08:12, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
- A clean white space will remain white for practical visual purposes, though minor (and invisible to the naked eye) artifacts may exist. This image is however not so valuable and sensitive to invisible perfections as to require a "master copy". I think a simple JPG will do the job for any concievable use. Plus there's the issue of piss poor PNG thumbnail renderings of PNG images by the wiki software if one were to rely solely on a PNG. – JBarta (talk) 08:34, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
DVD cover [edit]
See:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_talk:Elephants_dream_(DVD_cover).jpg for details. Anyone want tro try making one from a free licence screen shot?--Canoe1967 (talk) 01:07, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
Like this ? :D
no, but seriously, what should it be tailored to, articles somewhere else or a dvd you're making ? (either is good) Penyulap ☏ 01:29, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
- Everything about the movie is CC-by-sa except the DVD cover. Most elements of the cover are free licence or PD. I think they just wish a DVD cover made from scratch to be legal. "Artists conception" may be needed in all captions. We could use my latest image File:Protest info image draft.png and a similar caption linking to their image page and the laws involved. See the caption layout I did on mine?--Canoe1967 (talk) 01:53, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
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- Possibly I shouldn't have used the term 'protest'. 'Information campaign' may be a less harsh term. My yellow on black my seem a little harsh as well. I have brought up similar issues at Mr. Wales' talk page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#Wisdom_needed concerning the need for works made from scratch to replace all the fair use ones that are being deleted there and 3D sculpture images being deleted here. Technically we can't host http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Oscar_statuette.jpg over there because free licence images are available if we have one under FOP or contact the rights holders to provide official images. The WWE fans over there may fight a battle by putting the Oscar image and others up for deletion. If that happens then the issue may be noticed by far more editors. So far no one on Mr. Wales' talk page seems concerned but the WWE project is very concerned as they are losing many images for their articles.--Canoe1967 (talk) 14:06, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
- Oh good luck getting some sense out of that editors talkpage. I can't help, I tried asking Jimbo himself what I would think is a pretty straightforward question about some artwork he was the subject of, and I did get a response that is true, but I can't say I could make heads or tails out of it. I can see you're query there is met with nonsense but when I first opened the page, it lined up with the section below, regarding bullying destroying the project, I'll tell you now, that's a subject not worth raising because it is policy to back it up, or ignore it. I can't see how you'll get much chatter and input in public venues over there, they are all soaked in blood (Colosseum type figurative blood, not that girl who killed herself over Internet bullying type blood). You'll need to persist with the fans is all you can do I guess, or start an alternative wiki like wikialpha. That is the straightforward perfect solution, search engines find them just the same. Penyulap ☏ 14:57, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
- Possibly I shouldn't have used the term 'protest'. 'Information campaign' may be a less harsh term. My yellow on black my seem a little harsh as well. I have brought up similar issues at Mr. Wales' talk page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#Wisdom_needed concerning the need for works made from scratch to replace all the fair use ones that are being deleted there and 3D sculpture images being deleted here. Technically we can't host http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Oscar_statuette.jpg over there because free licence images are available if we have one under FOP or contact the rights holders to provide official images. The WWE fans over there may fight a battle by putting the Oscar image and others up for deletion. If that happens then the issue may be noticed by far more editors. So far no one on Mr. Wales' talk page seems concerned but the WWE project is very concerned as they are losing many images for their articles.--Canoe1967 (talk) 14:06, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
- I am hoping Mr. Wales will respond there. I used his page only because the WWE is not responding to emails from other editors. He may contact them himself or have a connection that can contact them. I changed the link in my image above to the url of an official Oscar image from the Academy site. I may put the same version in the Oscar article on April 1. They may think it is April Fool's vandalism but technically it is not. It would just provide information as to why we can't host a fair use image of the award and at the same time provide a link to an image that readers can see. Is my yellow on black the wrong choice of colours? The font size and format could be more balanced as well. Would anyone here with better skills than I like to try one? We may also wish to re-name it 'information image' as opposed to protest.--Canoe1967 (talk) 15:19, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
Helags [edit]
Request: Dark line between the white snow and blue sky (see images note). Possible to remove?--ArildV (talk) 10:32, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s):
Took a shot at this by moving the sky down a couple pixels, then a slight blurring of the sky, but I'm not really liking the result. The file is so huge and I didn't want to upload my edit, but you'll find a cropped portion of it here. The dark line (actually white in some places) is likely cause by unsharp masking somewhere along the line. As far as "imperfections" go... it's a fairly minor one. – JBarta (talk) 10:30, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
overexposed image [edit]
Request:
- This image is badly overexposed and needs some brightness fixing. -- 77.2.45.71 17:08, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s):
Done Colours are better now. A bit contrast, less saturation...--Hic et nunc (talk) 11:17, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
That image is beyond awful. It doesn't look over-exposed... it looks like someone made a mess out of it with Photoshop. Is there an original image as it came from the camera? If so, upload that and we'll see what we can do with it. Other than that, the deletion request is correct... it's embarassingly bad and we have better pictures of that bridge. – JBarta (talk) 19:13, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
- Nevermind, Hic et nunc did a fine job
rescuing it"giving it some love" and making it somewhat presentable. – JBarta (talk) 11:35, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
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- Jbarta is it always necessary to argue with every requester that their request is somehow invalid because you can't do it ? I stumbled onto old comments from when I first started drawing back last year, and it looks like the same thing now as it was way back then. It is easy to get some tutorials and learn what Hic et nunc and I can do, then you don't need to have an argument, because you could just do the request in a trifle, rather than argue it can't be / shouldn't be / won't be done because it's not proper / too hard / impossible / needs a genius the likes of which the world has never seen / not making sense / the requester is raving mad lunatic / I'm hungry call back later / whatever.
Remove cable and glare [edit]
Article(s): es:Gumiel de Mercado
Request: I wonder if someone could remove the overhead cables that got in my way in this picture and, if at all possible, remove/decrease the effect of the glare on the right hand-side of it. Thank you.-- Rowanwindwhistler (talk) 19:32, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
- I did a bit. Amada44 talk to me 20:19, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
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- Hmmm, no not really. I meant removing the cable altogether so that it does not show at all (if possible, that is)...--Rowanwindwhistler (talk) 21:04, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
- Did the rest. – JBarta (talk) 06:51, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
- I think it is very nice now, no cable any more and the glare has decreased quite a lot. Thank you both for your efforts!--Rowanwindwhistler (talk) 18:43, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
- Did the rest. – JBarta (talk) 06:51, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
- Hmmm, no not really. I meant removing the cable altogether so that it does not show at all (if possible, that is)...--Rowanwindwhistler (talk) 21:04, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s):
Request for image review and potential editing [edit]
Article(s): Thailand
Request: The following request was originally posted on the help desk and I was subesequently redirected to submit here in the Graphic Lab:
I have uploaded in Commons an image of Wat Chaiwatthanaram which is a historic temple located in Ayutthaya, Thailand. This image is currently being used in the main Thailand Wikipedia page as part of the history section. I have been considering submitting the photo for the featured photo review and have been reviewing the photo submission guidelines. So far, the only adjustments I have made are two cropped versions where the top and bottom of the image have been trimmed. All other aspects of the photo are as originally created. One area of the photo that may need help is the far right structure near the edge of the photo, where some lack of focus and minor distortion is apparent. The featured photo submission pages mention that there are photo experts that may be able to review the photo for potential improvement if I make a submission to the help desk. Can someone please take a look at the photo and advise if you feel any improvements can be made. Any other opinions are welcomed.
Per the help desk's recommendation, I have uploaded the original photo at this URL:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WatChaiwatthanaram_2292_original.JPG
Examples of cropped images that have been used in the Wikipedia Thailand web page are located here:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WatChaiwatthanaram_2292.JPG
G2nfreeb (talk) 10:50, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
>>> Thanks for your help - appreciate it
Graphist opinion(s):
Uploaded an edit. Slightly different crop, sharpened the structure on the right, cleaned up a couple small spots and slightly adjust color & brightness. – JBarta (talk) 11:26, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
- I tried too but it's very similar.--Hic et nunc (talk) 12:42, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
Two scans that need to be stitched together [edit]
Article(s): probably w:Polish–Soviet War
Request:
- I came here after receiving help desk advice from Canoe1967 (talk · contribs). My original plan was to just tag the two images with a template that marked them as needing to be stitched together. For my purposes, that's all I need, but to talk someone into actually doing it get is even better. Thanks in advance. — 67.101.5.251 07:51, 26 April 2013 (UTC) P.S. I still think a {{Needs stitching}} template is needed.
Graphist opinion(s):This would be no problem if the scan were complete. But if you look on both parts you see that the text is not complete. Could you scan this again, if possible with a bit of overlapping? Even three parts would be okay to be stitched.--Hic et nunc (talk) 08:05, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
Done - You may want to fix the source (not that you scanned it, but where specifically it's from) and the author (not you, but who wrote it). – JBarta (talk) 08:17, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
- Oh, I wrote a bit of nonsense. It was complet and your work is great. I think User:Piotrus will like it. --Hic et nunc (talk) 14:23, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
Help for restoring a historical image [edit]
I am trying to restoring a B&W historical photo of Argentina the best as possible, I need to know what I have to do for achieve it. Regards!!!! --Ezarateesteban 22:04, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
- Do you want to do it yourself, or do you want someone to do it for you? – JBarta (talk) 22:22, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
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- I am trying to learn to do it but it's the same for me Ezarateesteban 23:52, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
- I restorated the file in the original colours to compare. There's a bit that could be done additionally. --Hic et nunc (talk) 10:12, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
- I am trying to learn to do it but it's the same for me Ezarateesteban 23:52, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
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Parliament House sign, Singapore - 20100803.jpg [edit]
Article(s): en:Exclusion of judicial review in Singapore law
Request:
- The photograph is slightly skewed. Can someone please fix this? Thanks! — SMUconlaw (talk) 19:49, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s):
Done --Hic et nunc (talk) 06:18, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
White-spectacled Bulbul [edit]
Article(s): [[]]
Request:
- Can you please Corp this photo so that the bird is in the center exactly, without effecting its resolution, since its photographer intends to nominate it as a featured photo on ar. Wiki. Thanks -- باسم (talk) 13:47, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s):