Commons:Valued image candidates/Lanzarote 5 Luc Viatour.jpg

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Lanzarote 5 Luc Viatour.jpg

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Image
Nominated by Suid-Afrikaanse (talk) on 2013-01-22 01:21 (UTC)
Scope Nominated as the most valued image on Commons within the scope:
Cueva de los Verdes
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 Oppose Lanzarote 6 Luc Viatour.jpg is more emblematic of this cave. --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 06:49, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Support I prefer this image to File:Lanzarote 6 Luc Viatour.jpg as this gives full view from bottom to top and the clear reflections as well. The other one has crown in it and one can hardly see anything on the lower wall and floor. This one is VI for me. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 10:35, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
 Support The reflection and absence of people make this image far better, IMHO. It also conveys a better sense of depth -- Godot13 (talk) 17:01, 22 January 2013 (UTC).[reply]
 Comment The image that is shown is beautiful but in VI should be favored in the descriptive value of the image. The cave gets its name from the green, which is more specific. --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 17:13, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The English WP article says that the cave is called "Cueva de los Verdes" i.e. "Cave of Greens" because it was occupied by the "Verdes" family. Although Verde in Spanish means the colour green, i don't think the caves are called so from the colour's name. Of course, i am completely stranger to the caves and the Spanish language. But both the image seem to be using artificial lights, yellow and green, for the effects. Although other majority of the images in this category show yellowish-redish stones, the only one with natural green colour is File:Cueva de los Verdes - Lanzarote - CV09.jpg. If the caves are really called after the colour and not surname, we have no quality image that gives natural green colour. And if the name is from surname, this one is the best one. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 03:36, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I confirm that the cave is named from green mineral that composes it, is enough rare. But in this case the color is very bright, without the need for projector with green filter. --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 06:57, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
 Support I visited the cave two times. Both times the guide said, that "verde" has nothing to to do with the colour, but is named after the family Verde. In the guide book of Polyglott is said: "Die Familie Verde, nach der sie benannt ist, nutzte sie als Ziegenstall" and the guide book of Dumont: "Die Farbe Grün, nach der die Kaverne benannt zu sein scheint, bezieht sich tatsächlich auf den Familiennamen Verde. Die Verdes hatten die Höhlen im 17. Jahrhundert wiederentdeckt und dort samt ihrer Herde Zuflucht während zahlreicher Piratenüberfällen gefunden. Mit Proviant versorgt, bot sich hier ein praktisches Versteck für Tage oder Wochen." The guide book of Baedecker mentions as colours "white, red, yellow and black", not green! Please have also a look on the name itself: "Cueva de los Verdes", not "Cueva verde". The green colour you see here in the background is green artificial light, not the colour of the cave. The other picture mentioned shows not minerals but green algae at the entrace of the cave, where we have sunlight.
Perhaps one should create a subscope "lake", for the cave has many other interesting parts, e.g. the hall (Auditorium) where there are concerts and already Yehudi Menuhin had played, the galleries and so on. --Llez (talk) 07:33, 27 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for this light, which is not artificial --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 06:44, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Result: 3 support, 0 oppose =>
promoted. cmadler (talk) 14:15, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
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