User:L.m.k/E-Mails Max Batten

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Hello Max!

I just found some photos[1] you took in the Wikimedia Commons which were marked to be under the GNU
free documentation Licence[2]. Did you give the permission to publish these photos under a that
free licence (which includes commercial usage)?

If yes, which licence did you choose?

If not, would you agree to put your pictures under such a licence? This does not mean, that you
give up your copyright completely; your work would not be in the public domain. E.g. you can still
require to be credited with any publication of your photos and that any derivative works based on
your photos have to be distributed under the same licence by using this[3] licence.

If you want to do so, please complete the licence agreement below, so that the correct licence tags
can be applied. If you want, you can give the permission to use any of the pictures available on
your webpage; just replace the quite long list in the agreement with something shorter.

If you don't want to publish your photos under such a licence, please leave me a message, so that I
can mark them for deletion.

Thanks a lot in advance and best regards,

L.m.k

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Licence agreement:

I hereby assert that I am the creator and/or sole owner of the exclusive copyright of the following
Photographs:

<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:34050_-_exeter_st_davids_-_1962.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:34108_-_exeter_st_davids_-_1962.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:35024_-_exeter_st._davids_-_1962.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Blue_pullman_60099_-_swansea_-_aug_1967.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:252001_-_weston_s_mare_-_1975.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:D8036_-_euston_-_1963.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:D6343%2C_d7072_-_old_oak_common_-_1965.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Dp2_-_kings_cross_-_1963.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Apt_370003_-_euston_-_13-02-1980.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Apt_370004_-_euston_-_13-02-1980.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:D852_-_old_oak_common_-_1964.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:D3312_-_kings_cross_-_1963.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:D124_-_st_pancras_-_1965.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Sncb_8432_-_ostende_-_26-02-1980.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:40142_-_edinburgh_-_sep_1977.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:26014%2C_26008_-_inverness_-_sep_1977.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:37051_-_cambridge_-_may_1978.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:D6884_%282%29_-_llanelly_-_aug_1967.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:D1005%282%29_-_swansea_-_aug_1967.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:252001_-_reading_-_1975.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:101_NIR_enterprise_service_-_dublin_-_15-09-1980.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Sncb_2506_-_ostend_-_26-02-1980.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Sbb_1643_-_martigny_-_20-07-1985.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Sbb_locos_-_martigny_-_20-07-1985.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Sbb_10957_-_montreux_-_11-07-1985.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Sbb_loco_-_geneva_-_07-07-1985.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Mob_express_-_les_avants_-_11-07-1985.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Sncf_emu_-_le_chatalard_-_16-07-1985.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Mc_emu_-_les_marecottes_-_11-07-1985.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Mc_emu_-_nr_les_marecottes_-_08-07-1985.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:47081_-_dawlish_-_02-02-1981.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:D9517_-_cardiff_-_aug_1967.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:D1000-old_oak_common_-_1964.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:08910_-_carlisle_-_1975.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Sncb_6276_-_ostende_-_13-02-1980.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:D202_-_liverpool_street_-_1963.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:26008%2C_26014_-_inverness_-_sep_1977.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:D6712_-_liverpool_street_-_1963.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:D1005_-_swansea_-_aug_1967.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:D8012_-_willesden_junction_-_1965.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:50050%2C_47224_-_reading_-_1975.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Dmu_-_ribblehead_viaduct_-_18-08-1986.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:82010_-_Exeter_St_Davids_-_1962.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:34056_-_exeter_st_davids_-_1962.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:E5022-_london_bridge_-_1963.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:D6547-nrsundridgepark-1963.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:33119_-_weymouth_hbr_-_aug_1981.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:D1941_-_landore_-_aug_1967.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:20050%2C_200168%2C_stewarts_lane_crane_-_derby_-_1975.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:D6993%2C_d7094_-_newport_-_aug_1967.jpg>
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Class_24_-_mossend_-_sep_1976.jpg>

I agree to publish that work under the free license [ choose at least one from
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Copyright_tags ].

I acknowledge that I grant anyone the right use the image in a commercial product, and to modify it
according to their needs.

I acknowledge that I always retain copyright of my image, and retain the right to be attributed in
accordance with the license chosen. Modifications others make to the image will not be attributed
to me.

I acknowledge that the free license only concerns copyright, and I reserve the option to take
action against anyone who uses this work in violation of another law such as trademarks
restrictions, libel, or geographically specific restrictions.

I acknowledge that I cannot withdraw this agreement, and that the image may or may not be kept
permanently on a Wikimedia project.

DATE, NAME OF THE COPYRIGHT HOLDER

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[1] Most of them (or even all) can be found using this search:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=Max+Batten

[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Free_Documentation_License

[3] http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/deed.en_GB

Seine Antwort war:

I am not aware of giving any authority to publish these photos on Wikimedia or anywhere else. I am
not clear why these, out of many more, have been selected or how they were downloaded to your site.
I don't in principle have a problem with people using my photos provided their source is
acknowledged but I am unclear what I have to do to register them in the way you suggest.

I would ask that the pictures be deleted.

Regards,
Max Batten

Visit me at  http://www.thebattens.ndonet.com 

[ Fullquote gekürzt ]

Darufhin habe ich ihn noch ein weiteres Mal angeschrieben, weil ich mir nicht sicher war, ob er die Lizensierung abgelehnt hatte, weil er durch die Einverständniserklärung nicht ganz durchgestiegen ist:

Max Batten wrote:

> I am not aware of giving any authority to publish these photos on Wikimedia or anywhere else. I
am not clear why these, out of many more, have been selected or how they were downloaded to your
site. I don't in principle have a problem with people using my photos provided their source is
acknowledged but I am unclear what I have to do to register them in the way you suggest.

You don't have to register anything. If you want to put them under the licence I mentioned just put
the date and your name below the following text and send it back to me.

> I would ask that the pictures be deleted.

If you don't respond to this mail within seven days or I'll get a negative response I will mark
those images for deletion and they will be deleted within a few days.

Best regards, L.m.k

[ Einverständniserklärung gekürzt ]

Danach hat er noch einmal geantwortet und unmissverständlich, aber freundlich, gesagt, was er will:

Thank you for your response - please delete.

Regards,
Max Batten

Nachdem ich der Bitte Max Battens nachgekommen bin, die Bilder zur Löschung zu markieren, hat User:Duncharris sich offenbar eingeschaltet (und mich nebenbei des Vandalierens bezichtigt, aber das ist eine andere Baustelle) und ich habe abschließend noch folgende Mail bekommen, die scheinbar einem Einverständnis gleichkommt, aber offensichtlich kein Wort über eine etwaige Lizensierung beinhaltet.

Dear Mr Krumme,

Further to my earlier emails regarding pictures stored on Wikipedia, after discussion with Duncan 
Harris, I now realise their source and am happy for them to stay on the Wikipedia database.

Regards,
Max Batten

Danach habe ich abschließend erneut die Einverständiserklärung angefordert und diese auch bekommen. Danach sind die Bilder unter cc-by-sa-2.5 lizensiert (s. hier).