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Hi Odder,

Is there anything like User:AlexNewArtBot here on commons where I can follow and watch those new uploaded images I want? Jaqeli (talk) 11:48, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

@Jaqeli: OgreBot does exactly that; see User:OgreBot/gallery for tips on how to configure it to output files that you are interested in. odder (talk) 12:09, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
I couldn't really understand what should I do to watchlist them. For example if I want to get new picture updates from Category:History of Georgia what exactly should I do? Jaqeli (talk) 12:44, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
@Jaqeli: See this edit I made for you. Now you'd need to add User:Jaqeli/Georgia to your watchlist, and OgreBot will update this page every day with new images uploaded under the category tree for Category:History of Georgia. You might want to tweak the settings a bit; see the top of that page for exact instructions, and have a look at the source code to see how other people did that for categorieis they are interested in. odder (talk) 12:56, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
And what should I do with that red link? Should I create that page? And how do I add all other categories I am interested in? Jaqeli (talk) 13:05, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
@Jaqeli: Just have a look at the instructions and how other people did that, please. That's the way I learnt it, too. odder (talk) 13:13, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
I cannot edit that page. I want instead of that category there to be changed with Category:Tbilisi and Georgia. Jaqeli (talk) 13:36, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
@Jaqeli: I fixed it for you this time, but please request any changes on the talk page in the future. Thanks. odder (talk) 13:53, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. As I understand that red link will automatically be changed after the images will be added? Jaqeli (talk) 14:07, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
@Jaqeli: The bot will create the page, yes. odder (talk) 14:22, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
Thank you. Jaqeli (talk) 14:25, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi odder, that page was updated with new images but it is very strange that none of those pictures have any connection with Tbilisi or Georgia and can you please if you know what is wrong with it? Jaqeli (talk) 19:31, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

@Jaqeli: Just follow the category tree. All those files are in categories which are subcategories to Category:Georgia or Category:Tbilisi. odder (talk) 19:44, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
None of those pictures even match to those categories or subcategories. For example, what does this have to do with Georgia or Tbilisi or its subcategories? Jaqeli (talk) 20:03, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
I have no time to troubleshoot this for your at this time, but I'm quite convinced Magog the Ogre would be able to dig up some logs to explain how that file got onto your page. odder (talk) 20:54, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
Category:Georgia => Category:History of Georgia => Category:Colchis => Category:Golden Fleece => Category:Order of the Golden Fleece => Category:Knights of the Golden Fleece => Category:Knights of the Golden Fleece (19th century) => Category:Wilhelm I of Germany => Category:Things named after William I, German Emperor => Category:Churches named after William I, German Emperor => Category:Kaiser-Wilhelm-Gedächtniskirche => File:Berlin-Charlottenburg, the Kaiser Wilhelm Memorial Church .JPG. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 20:58, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
Wow! Does it go that deep? May I ask to add some other categories than? Jaqeli (talk) 21:46, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
@Jaqeli: Yes; please go to the talk page so Magog can directly implement your wishes :-) odder (talk) 21:54, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi odder, do you know by chance in what time would my gallery page get archived? It will get more and more hard to load a page with that amount of images and maybe you know how to make it archived automatically? Jaqeli (talk) 05:19, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

@Jaqeli: It won't get archived unless you set DAYS_PER_GALLERY (currently I set NO_SUBPAGE for you). It's all mentioned in the instructions at the top of User:OgreBot/gallery. odder (talk) 08:25, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
Can you please set the automatic archive on 7 days? Jaqeli (talk) 11:14, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
@Jaqeli: I just set DAYS_PER_GALLERY to 7. odder (talk) 11:38, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
Thanks Odder. Jaqeli (talk) 11:55, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi odder, my page was archived well but do you know by chance why it wasn't updated with the pictures of 8th march? Today is 9th but no updates from 8th march there. Jaqeli (talk) 09:53, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

@Magog the Ogre Maybe you could help or know why my page was not updated today? Jaqeli (talk) 18:49, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

@Jaqeli: No, I don't know. odder (talk) 10:07, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
No updates even for today. There's definitely something wrong. Can you please odder help? Jaqeli (talk) 06:49, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
@Jaqeli: I am sorry, but I don't know why the bot stopped updating your page. Pinging @Magog the Ogre again so he can have a look at it. odder (talk) 08:24, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
@Jaqeli: - please place your questions at User talk:OgreBot/gallery, as odder has already requested you do. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 01:17, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Images appearing on the English Wikipedia's main page[edit]

I just unprotected the file. I hope you're fine with it, @David Levy. odder (talk) 12:42, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Please elaborate on your summary — "no need for protection". (I need to ensure that a misunderstanding hasn't occurred.) Thanks! —David Levy 21:37, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
@David Levy: Sure! There was no need to protect the file, as it was already protected by the means of being included in a page with cascade protection set to be active. odder (talk) 22:23, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
To clarify, which page do you mean? Thanks again! —David Levy 01:46, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
@David Levy: Commons:Auto-protected files/wikipedia/en. odder (talk) 08:29, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
I was hoping that was what you meant. (Thanks very much for confirming it.) I asked because some administrators (primarily at the English Wikipedia) have mistakenly assumed that the cascading protection of en:Main Page extends to Commons images.
For that reason (among others, including simple forgetfulness), unprotected images keep turning up on that page, particularly in the In the news section (the only one in which images are routinely transcluded with little or no advance planning and for no predetermined duration). Sometimes, vandals notice and replace the Commons files with arbitrary imagery (such as pornography).
This is why Commons:Auto-protected files/wikipedia/en was created — for instances in which admins fail to either upload a local copy or ensure that the image is protected at Commons. As a fallback, it's helpful, but it isn't perfect. The page is populated by KrinkleBot, which can take anywhere from minutes to hours (and sometimes fails entirely).
Last month, a Wikipedia administrator transcluded the unprotected file Philip Seymour Hoffman 2011.jpg. KrinkleBot took about 12.5 hours to add it to Commons:Auto-protected files/wikipedia/en. Fortunately, I caught the problem after about an hour and protected the image at Commons before vandals got to it.
But then Russavia unprotected the file, noting only that "indefinite protection is way too long". Thankfully, the cascading protection had taken effect less than an hour earlier, and I'm trying to determine whether Russavia was aware of that (or mistakenly believed that the English Wikipedia's cascading protection was sufficient).
As I explained to Russavia last month, when I protect such an image, I routinely return to unprotect it shortly after it leaves the English Wikipedia's main page. When KrinkleBot functions properly, the file is cascade-protected at Commons anyway, so little or no additional protection occurs. (In many cases, I unprotect the images before KrinkleBot updates the list to remove the cascading protection.)
When I manually protected File:Vladimir Putin 12015.jpg, the cascading protection did not yet exist. As I noted above, I'm glad that you observed it before terminating the manual protection. This approach generally causes no harm, but it does have a potential detriment: From time to time, an image in the English Wikipedia's In the news section is removed and restored a short time later (typically when a newly added blurb is pulled due to problems). In some instances, KrinkleBot performs an update during the brief gap in the image's appearance (resulting in its removal from Commons:Auto-protected files/wikipedia/en). So when an admin (who typically assumes that the image is still protected) performs the reversion, the image returns to the main page without the cascading protection in place (and it might be many hours before it takes effect again). If the image is manually protected, this isn't an issue.
My apologies for typing such a long message. Thanks again! —David Levy 10:16, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
I mentioned above that the problem arises most often at the In the news section, but it just occurred at the From today's featured article section (where an admin decided to switch from an image's uncropped version to its cropped version, thereby inserting File:Jimi Hendrix thumbnail.jpg without protection). So I've protected the file at Commons (but because it's guaranteed to leave the main page at the end of the day, I've set the protection to expire then).
Incidentally, I always remind these administrators to upload local copies of images before transcluding them on the main page. This rarely seems to help much, as many of the admins forget again and others show up to make the same mistake. —David Levy 14:29, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thanks so much for the autopatrolled permission. —Blurred Lines 19:50, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
@Blurred Lines: You are much welcome. Thank you for your contributions to Wikimedia Commons, and happy editing! odder (talk) 20:24, 4 March 2014 (UTC)


Hello Odder,

Can you please move these 2? Jaqeli (talk) 21:09, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

@Jaqeli: Done. odder (talk) 21:41, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
Thank you. Jaqeli (talk) 21:46, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Odder, by the way is there any way I can watchlist the multiple files with one click without going directly going into the images one by one? Jaqeli (talk) 21:53, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

@Jaqeli: Not that I know of; all the methods I can think of include at least several clicks :-( odder (talk) 10:51, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
Okey, thanks anyways. Jaqeli (talk) 11:25, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Oversight attention[edit]

{{YGM}} INeverCry 23:04, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

@INeverCry: Thanks, I'll have a look in a few minutes. odder (talk) 09:29, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
odder, you have a mail. Jee 13:04, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
@Jkadavoor: Thank you; I'll respond once I'm really on-line, ie. in a few hours. odder (talk) 13:17, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Muchas gracias[edit]

Gracias por modificar mis permisos para ser "autopatrolled". Ya me ire enterando poco a poco de lo que esto conlleva. Gracias.Adolfobrigido (talk) 17:32, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Usted es siempre bienvenido, @Adolfobrigido. odder (talk) 18:07, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

User autopatrolled[edit]

Thanks for insertion between autopatrolled users. --Massimo Telò (scrivimi) 08:46, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

@Massimo Telò: Il tuo benvenuto! odder (talk) 09:29, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

They are so rule-bound[edit]

They simply don't understand that the principle comes first, and from the principle that the rules are written (not the other way around). So forgetting the principle and just looking at the rules gives them security as they see that they are operating within the rules, their comfort space. All forest and trees stuff, and damn infuriating.  — billinghurst sDrewth 13:44, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

@billinghurst: … or else just saddening and depressing if we repeatedly have to deal with the same situations. I'm just so tired of explaining this again and again… :-( odder (talk) 17:21, 17 March 2014 (UTC)


Hi odder,

Can you please move these 2?

Thank you. Jaqeli (talk) 19:03, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

@Jaqeli: Both done :-) odder (talk) 19:48, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. :) Jaqeli (talk) 20:50, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

File:Smoking Crack.jpg[edit]

Commons-emblem-issue.svg File:Smoking Crack.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue.
Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

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Thanks for the notification, @Zellfaze. odder (talk) 19:36, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
No problem. Thank you for doing so much great stuff here! Zellfaze (talk) 19:43, 17 March 2014 (UTC)


Lubra Morwell 2-3-2014 2034.jpg

Hi Odder, what's wrong with my entry. Why you not change my commons-name? :o( --Peter Abraham (talk) 12:26, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

@Pit 14: I just didn't get to it before. You should be renamed now :-) odder (talk) 17:33, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
Hallo Odder, I thank you very much, DANKE... --Pit 14 (talk) 18:05, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
@Pit 14: Bitte schön! And thanks for the flowers :-) odder (talk) 18:24, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Flag of Brazil[edit]

Pomoz.Pozdrawiam z Berlina.--J.Dygas (talk) 09:57, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

@J.Dygas: W czym dokładnie potrzebujesz pomocy? odder (talk) 10:10, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
Cos zepsulem, I nie moge znalezc.Bylo duzo przetlumaczen, a zostalo tylko pl.--J.Dygas (talk) 10:15, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
@J.Dygas: Ja widzę opis pliku w 20 językach; może masz włączony jakiś gadżet w Preferencjach, który wpływa na to, jakie języki widzisz? odder (talk) 11:42, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
Ach to moze z czasem cos nie tak,teraz widze tez wszystkie.Dziekuje za uwage.A tak na marginesie mozesz mi ogolnie tu pomoc,chcialbym wlasciwie tylko tu tlumaczyc na pl., de., cs. I jesli dam rade, to przezucanie plikow na i jeszcze raz dziekuje.--J.Dygas (talk) 12:42, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
@J.Dygas: Jasne, jak będziesz mieć z czymś problem, to oczywiście zapraszam i postaram się pomóc, jeśli będę w stanie :-) odder (talk) 14:05, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Odder![edit]

It seems I now have a lot more rights, thanks to you. I don't expect to use many of them, because I am mainly involved with content, but it certainly will help if I occasionally can change file names without importuning some other busy guy! (First have to do some learning to avoid making a mess, but... :) )

Either way, thanks again. JonRichfield (talk) 04:55, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

@JonRichfield: You are welcome! Thank you for your contributions to Commons; your involvement here is noted and appreciated. odder (talk) 10:01, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Renaming of my Account[edit]

Hi odder, I'm not sure if you read my answer on my Discussion page. If not, I only want to tell you, that I agree with your solution. Thanks.-- (talk) 18:22, 23 March 2014 (UTC)


Many thanks!Manuelvbotelho (talk) 09:58, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

@Manuelvbotelho: You are welcome. Thank you for your contributions to Wikimedia Commons, and happy editing in the future! odder (talk) 17:45, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Prośba o usunięcie plików[edit]

Witaj! Czy mogę prosić o usunięcie kilku plików które załadowane mają Plik:Delete 2 usunać plik.JPG Plik:Usunąć plik 02.JPG Kazimierz Puczyński grób delete please.JPG Izydor Koper grób0.JPG Józef Prokopowicz grób delete.JPGM9837493762487216.JPG I wszystkie wymienione zdjęcia są załadowane pod innymi nazwami Lukasz2 (talk) 19:33, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

@Lukasz2: Zgodnie z prośbą usunąłem File:Izydor Koper grób0.JPG, File:Józef Prokopowicz grób delete.JPG i File:M9837493762487216.JPG — pozostałe pliki zostały usunięte przez innych administratorów. odder (talk) 17:47, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

File:Kazimierz Puczyński grób delete please.JPG i File:Delete 2 usunać plik.JPG File:Delete 2 usunać plik.JPG File:Jan Szymanowski grób delete.JPG File:Brunon Romiszewski grób delete.JPG nie zostały usunięte tak jak i poprzednio są to kopie właściwych plików Lukasz2 (talk) 19:17, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

@Lukasz2: Zrobione. odder (talk) 19:25, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Dzięki wielkie! uchowały się jeszcze File:Paweł Nowacki grób0.JPG I File:Włodzimierz Seweryński grób delete.JPG także do kasacji.Lukasz2 (talk) 19:32, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

@Lukasz2: Oba pliki zniknięte. odder (talk) 19:38, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

File:Usunąć plik 02.JPG to już chyba ostatni dzieki za pomocLukasz2 (talk) 19:43, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

@Lukasz2: Usunięte. odder (talk) 19:46, 2 April 2014 (UTC)


Hi odder,

Please move:

Per Georgian scripts. Jaqeli (talk) 21:44, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

@Jaqeli: This is now done. odder (talk) 17:45, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
Thank you. Jaqeli (talk) 18:14, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Picture of the Year 2013 Results Announcement[edit]

Picture of the Year 2013 Results[edit]

The 2013 Picture of the Year. View all results »

Dear Odder,

The 2013 Picture of the Year competition has ended and we are pleased to announce the results: We shattered participation records this year — more people voted in Picture of the Year 2013 than ever before. In both rounds, 4070 different people voted for their favorite images. Additionally, there were more image candidates (featured pictures) in the contest than ever before (962 images total).

  • In the first round, 2852 people voted for all 962 files
  • In the second round, 2919 people voted for the 50 finalists (the top 30 overall and top 2 in each category)

We congratulate the winners of the contest and thank them for creating these beautiful images and sharing them as freely licensed content:

  1. 157 people voted for the winner, an image of a lightbulb with the tungsten filament smoking and burning.
  2. In second place, 155 people voted for an image of "Sviati Hory" (Holy Mountains) National Park in Donetsk Oblast, Ukraine.
  3. In third place, 131 people voted for an image of a swallow flying and drinking.

Click here to view the top images »

We also sincerely thank to all 4070 voters for participating and we hope you will return for next year's contest in early 2015. We invite you to continue to participate in the Commons community by sharing your work.

the Picture of the Year committee

You are receiving this message because you voted in the 2013 Picture of the Year contest.

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Need your unprejudiced opinion[edit]

Dear Odder, I am really sorry, but may I ask you to take part as an experienced user in the discussion about Deletion requests/File:Albert graffiti Belarus.jpg to make it unprejudiced? The question is would anonymous graffiti correspond to the folk art work. Many thanks, Frantishak (talk) 18:09, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

  • @Frantishak: I responded on the deletion request page, thanks for the heads-up. odder (talk) 18:45, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

Commons:Requests for comment/Allow transferring files from other Wikimedia Wikis server side[edit]

Please read, copyedit and add to this RfC, specifically section Why a Request for Comment. When done, please list it at Template:Centralized discussion or tell me here so I can proceed. Thanks in advance. -- Rillke(q?) 15:59, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Nowy użytkownik[edit]

Hej! Jesteś w stanie mi powiedzieć ile czasu jest się nowym użytkownikiem na Commons? Mati7 (talk) 18:53, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

@Mati7: 4 dni. odder (talk) 20:35, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Jestem już chyba miesiąc, i dalej w plikach, które przesyłam jest Uploads by new users. Mati7 (talk) 12:17, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

@Mati7: OgreBot po prostu wychwytuje wszystkie pliki przesłane przez użytkowników mających poniżej 150 edycji, ponieważ w tej grupie zwykle znajduje się najwięcej naruszeń praw autorskich. Ty masz w tym momencie 132 edycje, w związku z czym Twoje zdjęcia są dodawane do tej listy; nie ma to związku z Twoim statusem w rozumieniu oprogramowania MediaWiki, a poza tym nie ma się czym przejmować — niedługo znikniesz z tej listy :-)) odder (talk) 12:30, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

work meeting[edit]

Hey Odder,
are you interested in joining a meet for doing some free content work in Tripoint region of poland, szech und germany? Maybe you can help us with some lists of Cultural heritage sites in Woiwodschaft Niederschlesien, especially we are interessted in Lists with locations of Upper Lusatian houses. Please have a look at our projectpage - I would be happy to see you there :) . Greetings, Conny (talk) 07:10, 6 April 2014 (UTC).

@Conny: Thanks for the message and the kind invitation. I'm definitely not coming to the meeting, but if you need any help with creating a list of interesting buildings to photograph on the Polish side of the border (if you're planning a photo hunt there), then I'd be happy to help. odder (talk) 15:10, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing out my Mistake[edit]

I am sorry Its my Mistake. I want it tobe (Rukn950). should I re apply? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rukn950 (talk • contribs)

@Rukn950: No, there's no need. Thanks for fixing the mistake on the request page — I'll take it from here :-) odder (talk) 08:27, 10 April 2014 (UTC)


Thanks for insertion between autopatrolled users :-) --Bubamara (talk) 21:07, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

@Bubamara: You are welcome. Thanks for your involvement with Commons, and happy editing! odder (talk) 21:23, 13 April 2014 (UTC)


Hi odder,

Can you please move these 4?

After moving please delete those categories instead of redirecting. Thank you. Jaqeli (talk) 19:21, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

@Jaqeli: All done now! odder (talk) 20:01, 16 April 2014 (UTC)