Category talk:Morosolo-Casciago train station
Categorization[edit]
@Arbalete: What? Since when train stations are not categorized as buildings? Also this old edit undoing the edit of @JopkeB: is wrong, because it cannot stay both in a category and it's subcategory. I'll undo your edit, please write in the talk page if you don't agree. --Phyrexian ɸ 06:14, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
- A train station is not a building: it is an area that usually contains some buildings (for example the passenger building – fabbricato viaggiatori – or the goods shed – magazzino merci). The passenger building has its own category and is categorised under Buildings in Casciago.--Arbalete (talk) 14:04, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Arbalete: All the train stations on Commons are categorized also as buildings, because all train station in the world are composed first of all by their buildings. There is a consensus anywhere to change the categorization of all the pictures and categories about train station on Commons? Please provide this consensus and avoid overcategorization and edit-war. --Phyrexian ɸ 14:29, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Phyrexian: "All train station in the world are composed first of all by their buildings." That's not true at all: there are so many stations without buildings, just with tracks and platforms. And also the "stations with buildings" are not buildings, but include one or more buildings. So there is a big difference.
- I did not invented the Category:Station buildings: I just extended it to the Italian stations.
- I haven't done any overcategorization. Actually, YOU are doing it, so I don't get your point.
- About edit wars, you are starting it, not me.--Arbalete (talk) 14:35, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Phyrexian: "All train station in the world are composed first of all by their buildings." That's not true at all: there are so many stations without buildings, just with tracks and platforms. And also the "stations with buildings" are not buildings, but include one or more buildings. So there is a big difference.
- @Arbalete: All the train stations on Commons are categorized also as buildings, because all train station in the world are composed first of all by their buildings. There is a consensus anywhere to change the categorization of all the pictures and categories about train station on Commons? Please provide this consensus and avoid overcategorization and edit-war. --Phyrexian ɸ 14:29, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
- Really? You are continuously put this category in both Category:Casciago and Category:Morosolo, that's overcategorization. I'll report your behaviour. --Phyrexian ɸ 14:55, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Phyrexian: You are making an overcategorization, because you put this category under Category:Buildings in Casciago, while the undercategory Category:Morosolo-Casciago train station - Station building is already under the same category.
- I have put this category into both Category:Morosolo and Category:Casciago because both places are reported in the name of the station.--Arbalete (talk) 15:01, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Phyrexian: You are making an overcategorization, because you put this category under Category:Buildings in Casciago, while the undercategory Category:Morosolo-Casciago train station - Station building is already under the same category.
- Really? You are continuously put this category in both Category:Casciago and Category:Morosolo, that's overcategorization. I'll report your behaviour. --Phyrexian ɸ 14:55, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
- The point is first you talk, then you edit. The second point is what I just said about the overcategorization here, Morosolo is a subcategory of Casciago, because is a village in the municipality of Casciago, the name on the building does not matter, categories matter. You created Category:Morosolo-Casciago train station - Station building just about 3 hours ago, so please avoid to make fool of me. The third point is that usually train station are made of buildings, and I don't see good reason to divide the categories in extremely specific subcategories for every little train station in the world. It may have sense for big stations in cities, but for example in this particular case there is nothing more than the station building, why have two cats, one with 2 pictures and one with 1 picture? It has no sense, and make the navigation difficult for people searching pictures. --Phyrexian ɸ 15:06, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
- I have created the new category just 3 hours ago, as I saw that you uploaded a new picture of the station building (File:Casarico - Stazione 0508.jpg, anyway with an incomprehensible name, but let's leave it). Anyway, a station IS NOT A BUILDING, and it's unsense to have photos like this under a Category:Buildings in...--Arbalete (talk) 15:15, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
- The point is first you talk, then you edit. The second point is what I just said about the overcategorization here, Morosolo is a subcategory of Casciago, because is a village in the municipality of Casciago, the name on the building does not matter, categories matter. You created Category:Morosolo-Casciago train station - Station building just about 3 hours ago, so please avoid to make fool of me. The third point is that usually train station are made of buildings, and I don't see good reason to divide the categories in extremely specific subcategories for every little train station in the world. It may have sense for big stations in cities, but for example in this particular case there is nothing more than the station building, why have two cats, one with 2 pictures and one with 1 picture? It has no sense, and make the navigation difficult for people searching pictures. --Phyrexian ɸ 15:06, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
The name in not incomprehensible, all my uploads folloy the template: "Location - Subject number". Casarico is the town where the station is located, as the description page explains. It is a common practice on Commons that categories about train stations, since those are mainly buildings, are categorized under transports and under buildings categories, even if they contains pictures that refers only to the transport part of the station. It is my opinion that distinguish the two parts of a station should be done only when necessary. Having a specific category for every single picture is not necessary, and is not useful. As is not useful to create a category tree about "transports in this little town" unless there is already a reasonable amount of pictures about that topic. Three (3) picture to me seems nowhere close to reasonable. I ask again to please remove the overcategorization about Morosolo/Casciago. Actually the station is not located in the town of Morosolo nor in the town of Casciago, but in a third town (Casarico) wich lies in the middle. --Phyrexian ɸ 15:54, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
- The name should describe the depicted object, and the current name doesn't say anything about it. Anyway, let's leave also this problem.
- I repeat. Train stations ARE NOT "mainly buildings", they are bigger areas with many elements. Sometimes (not always) they also have a passenger building. but they are NEVER coincident with a passenger building: if it exists, it's only a part of the station, and categorizing a train station under the buildings category is just a mistake.
- The categorization under Morosolo and Casciago is necessary, because the name tells us that this station was built to serve those two towns. If you want you can also add the category for Casarico.--Arbalete (talk) 17:38, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
- This is just trolling and mover right abuse. Read Commons:File renaming to see the only cases a file should me renamed. Also, again, read Commons:Overcat to understand why you should not categorize this category in both Category:Morosolo and Category:Casciago. --Phyrexian ɸ 18:09, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
- This was an ambiguous name. The station is named "Morosolo-Casciago"; there is no station called "Casarico"; and moreover, there are other places called Casarico in Italy (the most important one is in the municipality of Montano Lucino, province of Como). So I'm going to move it again.
- And still you don't understand that there is no overcategorization, because the name of the station contains the names of both places.--Arbalete (talk) 18:24, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
- This was an ambiguous name. The station is named "Morosolo-Casciago"; there is no station called "Casarico"; and moreover, there are other places called Casarico in Italy (the most important one is in the municipality of Montano Lucino, province of Como). So I'm going to move it again.
- This is just trolling and mover right abuse. Read Commons:File renaming to see the only cases a file should me renamed. Also, again, read Commons:Overcat to understand why you should not categorize this category in both Category:Morosolo and Category:Casciago. --Phyrexian ɸ 18:09, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
- The name is in no way ambiguous, since it's the only train station that exist there. If you start an edit-war moving a file title without even providing a valid criteria for your action I will report your abuse as a file mover. --Phyrexian ɸ 18:28, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
- I already explained you why the name is highly ambiguous. Moving critery 2.--Arbalete (talk) 18:30, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
- The name is in no way ambiguous, since it's the only train station that exist there. If you start an edit-war moving a file title without even providing a valid criteria for your action I will report your abuse as a file mover. --Phyrexian ɸ 18:28, 19 May 2022 (UTC)