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File:01-Satz des Pythagoras-W.gif, not featured[edit]
Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes.Voting period ends on 30 Jan 2021 at 09:01:38 (UTC)
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Info created by Petrus3743 - uploaded by Petrus3743 - nominated by Petrus3743 -- Petrus3743 (talk) 09:01, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
Support -- Petrus3743 (talk) 09:01, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
Comment I suppose the intention of the animation is to show that a^2 + b^2 = c^2 by adding up the volumes of the squares, but why is there still some volume left of the second largest square after the largest square has completely "faded"? That would imply that a^2 + b^2 > c^2. —Percival Kestreltail (talk) 15:26, 21 January 2021 (UTC)- Comment Thank you for your hint. But it's so right. It was designed that way on purpose, because you know for sure that liquids evaporate ... In a few years it will be exact! Greetings --Petrus3743 (talk) 16:13, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
Oppose animation brings nothing. - Benh (talk) 17:16, 21 January 2021 (UTC)- Oppose I agree with Percival Kestreltail, the animation doesn't seem to show exactly what it should. I also think we should not really be promoting GIFs in 2021, they are not the most flexible or useful file format for animations. Cmao20 (talk) 01:28, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose Per Percival Kestreltail and Benh. The Gallery has much better animations. --Tagooty (talk) 09:16, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
- Comment Hi —Percival Kestreltail and Cmao20, to clear up the misunderstanding, there is no volume left in the second largest square. The number of pixels that are still clearly visible in the triangle all fit exactly into the large square ... see GeoGebra. I suggested the picture because a similar animation has already been rated well. --Petrus3743 (talk) 00:49, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
- Petrus3743, thanks for your reply. I stand corrected, but I'm afraid I still don't think this animation is FP. Note that the other animation you link to was promoted a long time ago, in 2007. Back then, GIFs might have been seen as a useful file format, but 14 years on they are no longer really the gold standard. Cmao20 (talk) 01:23, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose, as suggested above there has been a general consensus over the past few years that .GIFs are not the way we should be delivering animated images for a variety of reasons. Daniel Case (talk) 04:40, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- CommentWell, I'm a autodidact, which means I like to learn. What is the good alternative to GIFs, by which I mean how can the mathematical topic I have shown be presented better? By the way, where can I see the examples of good animations, on Commons:Featured pictures/Animated there are only GIFs apart from the videos.--Petrus3743 (talk) 07:49, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- You can read this (very long) discussion. Personally I'm not really flabbergasted by this design, however I totally disagree with those saying GIF is not an appropriate format for animations. On the contrary, GIFs are just perfect for this kind of "show". Many GIFs were promoted FP in the past, and a few ones even reached the rare finalists at the POTY competition. GIFs are displayed on a computer like any other image, except the content moves, and that's great. No need to click on any button to start / stop / pause. So simple. Very easy also to use it for any web page, just resize it as you wish, like a JPG. Perhaps not the best candidature in this case, however definitely a useful media, and I strongly encourage you to continue to create those kind of valuable animations in this format -- Basile Morin (talk) 23:57, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Basile Morin, thank you for your words! This animation (it is more complicated than it looks) was made to illustrate the principle of an exhibit in Science-Center Phaeno in Wolfsburg. Please see Satz des Pythagoras. Since I design in GeoGebra, I can only incorporate my images (two-dimensional or three-dimensional) as GIF in Wikipedia. In contrast to Commons, these (my) animations and images are not unpopular in Wikipedia! This can even be used to achieve the Excellent award for an article, for example, Würfelverdoppelung. Well, I won't propose any pictures as a candidate in FPC in the future! Best regards--Petrus3743 (talk) 09:56, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
- Petrus3743, FPC is great, but the "wow" factor is subjective. And now it's extremely rare to see GIFs nominated. You can try Commons:Featured media candidates or Commons:Quality images candidates instead. Best regards -- Basile Morin (talk) 14:28, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
Confirmed results:
Result: 1 support, 4 oppose, 0 neutral → not featured. /--A.Savin 13:22, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
