Commons:Featured picture candidates/Image:Tartan Ribbon.jpg

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Image:Tartan Ribbon.jpg, not featured[edit]

Tartan ribbon

The first color photograph ever taken. Created in 1861. Nominating because of historical importance.

  •  Info Photographed by James Clerk Maxwell. - uploaded by Janke - nominated by Durova --Durova 07:28, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support --Durova 07:28, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment That is a cool image! This is the kind of thing that if it were to be considered FP should have more in the summary as well as making the Image page look nice by using the {{Information template}}. Thanks for posting it here. -- carol 07:45, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • If I had more information available I'd certainly expand. I was sorting through portraits of physicists when I stumbled across this. It completely surprised me to see it had never been nominated before. Durova 07:49, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support Of very important historical value. I remember having supported some other landmark photos, too. Freedom to share 08:07, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose  Neutral I'm not sure yet. Rocket000 04:07, 10 December 2007 (UTC) It is cool and historical (considered the first colour photograph), but for something like this, I need more context since it's obviously graded on a different scale. Rocket000 08:58, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose It looks like an upsampled version of any of the many smaller (reasonable quality) copies found on the internet. Lycaon 11:06, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • I don't remember ever seeing this photograph in any of my textbooks or in any of my dads photography books. The wikipedia page makes it look like in the time that this man was supposed to be taking this photograph, he was instead receiving awards. That would itself be a difficult task as they did not have motorized vehicles then. This 'graph smells funny. -- carol 15:37, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • None of Wikipedia articles tell what day the image was created on (and Maxwell wasn't the photographer himself), nor does any article describe what Maxwell was doing on every day of 1861. Where does this complaint come from? Rmhermen 19:54, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      • This has been a featured image on the English language Wikipedia for a year.[1] See also this statement from the James Clerk Maxwell foundation. The text description on that project reads Tartan Ribbon, photograph taken by James Clerk Maxwell in 1861. Considered the first colour photograph. Maxwell had the photographer Thomas Sutton photograph a tartan ribbon three times, each time with a different colour filter over the lens. The three images were developed and then projected onto a screen with three different projectors, each equipped with the same colour filter used to take its image. When brought into focus, the three images formed a full colour image. The three photographic plates now reside in a small museum at 14 India Street, Edinburgh, the house where Maxwell was born. I hope this satisfies? Durova 22:10, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment So clearly he didn't produce the first colour photograph, just three black and white transparencies. So this is a relatively modern photo taken some time later (when real colour photography had been developed) of the three overlapping images projected onto a screen through coloured filters. Less excuse for poor quality, the image we're looking at is not from 1861. :-) --Tony Wills 00:51, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
What would you call it then, the first color slide projection? And would you consider a better copy of this image if one could be found? This is a scan from a textbook. From my reading of the English Wikipedia material, a scan from the 1961 Scientific American article might yield a better result. I'm considering heading over to a university for assistance with that, if it would make a difference to the outcome of the discussion. Durova 21:03, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
If you follow the comments and votes for images like this, the people delivering their opinions consider poor quality scans to be a 'historical fact' and worthy of being maintained all on its own merit. -- carol 06:14, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
result: 3 support, 3 oppose, 1 neutral => not featured. Simonizer 10:29, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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