Commons:Featured picture candidates/removal/File:Vincent van Gogh - Starry Night - Google Art Project.jpg

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File:Vincent van Gogh - Starry Night - Google Art Project.jpg, not delisted

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Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes.Voting period ends on 25 Jun 2022 at 05:48:21
Vincent van Gogh - Starry Night Proposed replacement

  •  Info Too dark, second version of Google Art Project alternative version (by Paris 16) has better lighting. (Original nomination)
  •  Delist and replace -- IamMM (talk) 05:48, 16 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose For now. This is maybe my favorite painting. And you are right that the new version has better exposure. But I don't know what went wrong with the shadows which are darker that the current FP. Details are lost in the process. I have the feeling that we could pull out more details from the current FP which some slight curve adjustments. - Benh (talk) 07:54, 16 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment and btw, it looks like this is not a new scan by Google Art Project but just an alternate processing from the same source by Paris 16. I personally was misled by the wording. - Benh (talk) 08:55, 16 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose And I think the version by Paris 16 needs some work to make it very clear this is a significant deviation from the Google Art Project version by a Commoner, not a faithful reproduction of an actual artwork hanging somewhere. I see no reason to support this. See Musée d'Orsay for comparison. You might like the brighter one but it doesn't have much Educational Value. The clue, about "too dark" is the word "night". -- Colin (talk) 12:41, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • I don't think there is a connection between the current FP exposure and the "night". In The Starry Night, which has similar conditions, the night is also depicted but with much better exposure. There are two images in the museum link that Colin put, the current FP image and another version with better light. -- IamMM (talk) 13:52, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • that's very persuasive indeed. I first thought the current FP is underexposed and agreed with IamMM, but this is like photographing an underexposed image. If the source material is already underexposed, there's no reason to fix it. Even more in that case when it would supposedly not be faithful to the actual painting. Maybe I'll go back to Orsay museum someday but I think we can safely assume the exposure from the museum's and GAP's versions is correct. - Benh (talk) 14:34, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • This image also belongs to the Orsay Museum, why not assume this to be true instead of the dark version? The darker version in the museum site also has better light than the current FP, IMO. There is no doubt that GAP is very valuable, but in this nomination I realized that you can not always trust its accuracy. -- IamMM (talk) 15:20, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • I think you are also right. believe I tried to chose my wording to imply that the real painting could be brighter, but I'm not in front of it so... Also, usual exposure rules of night shots don't apply here. What now looks almost certain is that Paris 16's version is too bright. The shadows are also too dark, with details that can't be recovered (and that is my main reason for opposing the replace, otherwise I would be more neutral). - Benh (talk) 15:37, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • The brighter photo by the museum is still quite a bit darker and of a different color than the nominated photo. I haven't been to the Orsay in years, so I don't remember how the painting looks well enough to judge. I'll cross out my vote. But I think it's too much to ask us to judge how accurate the photos are. What happened to the former regular here who lived in Paris and nominated some great photos? It would be nice to hear his take, but he hasn't been here for some time. Is there anyone reading who's been to the Orsay recently enough to judge these photos confidently? -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 17:15, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • According to what is written at the top of CFCF user page, it is unlikely that you will find an answer to this question. Except for the overly bright image of Paris 16, I did not find any other suitable alternative. -- IamMM (talk) 00:29, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Confirmed results:
Result: 1 delist, 4 keep, 0 neutral => not delisted. /--A.Savin 10:08, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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