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POV work[edit]
This map is continuation of personal POV pushing of user:DIREKTOR in English Wikipedia, where he tried to deny existence of WW2 country with name Serbia. He trying to push idea that "Government of National Salvation" was a name of a country, which is not supported by a single source. PANONIAN (talk) 18:36, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
- That state was not named "Serbia", and the sources for THAT are abundant. Your nonsense nationalist POV-pushing has not managed to change the title of the article into "Serbia", so now you are stirring trouble here. In adition: the image clearly states "Serbia under German occupation". --DIREKTOR (TALK) 11:22, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
- Here is a lot of evidences that state was named Serbia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PANONIAN/Sources02 And please, do not insult me if you are not able to back your comments with sources and evidences. PANONIAN (talk) 13:08, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
- We have already established that you are unable or unwilling to differentiate between 1) Serbia as a geographic area, and 2) an official name of a state. "Bosnia", "Slovenia", "Macedonia" are all geographic terms used VERY frequently in sources for the WWII period, by your definition these are all official names of various imaginary states. Finding a document (or a document cited in sources) with an official name of a state is incredibly easy. Nedić simply did not call his entity "Serbia" (i.e. he wanted to but was not allowed, much like Poland's General Government). --DIREKTOR (TALK) 11:28, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
- Nedić did not called his country Serbia? LOL Here is evidence that he did: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBMZi-_ANJw Here are also numerous other evidences that name of that country was Serbia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PANONIAN/Sources02 (especially see those: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PANONIAN/Sources02#Historical_movies ) Do you have a single evidence that it was not country name? No, you do not have such evidence. You pushing here some personal POV and original research because of who know what political reasons. Why you did not described your own country as "Ustaša government" instead as "Croatia"? PANONIAN (talk) 11:36, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
- I uploaded version with corrected name, per sources, agreements and articles about that subject on all Wikipedia's. --WhiteWriter speaks 19:29, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
- This was discussed at length on the relevant Wiki page. You do not have consensus for your changes, and they will be reverted without fail. --DIREKTOR (TALK) 12:32, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
- For the record: You did not provided a single source in English Wikipedia to support your claims and consensus among users there was that name of that country was Serbia. And to notify you that administrators might block you if you engage yourself in revert war with other users. PANONIAN (talk) 18:36, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
- DIREKTOR, you must talk to us, as for now, only our good will stops us from reverting your edits, that does not have even one reason to exist. Relevant Wiki page you mentioned says Serbia, not Government of National Salvation, per its sources and all other, as both user Panonian and i already told you. --WhiteWriter speaks 18:46, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- Any further revert, without any sources or discussion, will be regarded by me as disruptive editing and vandalism. --WhiteWriter speaks 17:00, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
- DIREKTOR, you must talk to us, as for now, only our good will stops us from reverting your edits, that does not have even one reason to exist. Relevant Wiki page you mentioned says Serbia, not Government of National Salvation, per its sources and all other, as both user Panonian and i already told you. --WhiteWriter speaks 18:46, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- For the record: You did not provided a single source in English Wikipedia to support your claims and consensus among users there was that name of that country was Serbia. And to notify you that administrators might block you if you engage yourself in revert war with other users. PANONIAN (talk) 18:36, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
- This was discussed at length on the relevant Wiki page. You do not have consensus for your changes, and they will be reverted without fail. --DIREKTOR (TALK) 12:32, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
- I uploaded version with corrected name, per sources, agreements and articles about that subject on all Wikipedia's. --WhiteWriter speaks 19:29, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
- Nedić did not called his country Serbia? LOL Here is evidence that he did: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBMZi-_ANJw Here are also numerous other evidences that name of that country was Serbia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PANONIAN/Sources02 (especially see those: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PANONIAN/Sources02#Historical_movies ) Do you have a single evidence that it was not country name? No, you do not have such evidence. You pushing here some personal POV and original research because of who know what political reasons. Why you did not described your own country as "Ustaša government" instead as "Croatia"? PANONIAN (talk) 11:36, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
- We have already established that you are unable or unwilling to differentiate between 1) Serbia as a geographic area, and 2) an official name of a state. "Bosnia", "Slovenia", "Macedonia" are all geographic terms used VERY frequently in sources for the WWII period, by your definition these are all official names of various imaginary states. Finding a document (or a document cited in sources) with an official name of a state is incredibly easy. Nedić simply did not call his entity "Serbia" (i.e. he wanted to but was not allowed, much like Poland's General Government). --DIREKTOR (TALK) 11:28, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
- Here is a lot of evidences that state was named Serbia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PANONIAN/Sources02 And please, do not insult me if you are not able to back your comments with sources and evidences. PANONIAN (talk) 13:08, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
References[edit]
This map show political situation in 1943-1944, while reference list was copy-pasted from original map that was created by me. These references are showing situation in 1941-1942 and not in 1943-1944 and therefore I removed them from map page. Since uploader of this file did not provided any original references that he used for political situation in 1943-1944, I included some references that showing political situation in that time, but I believe that uploader is still obligated to provide his own references. PANONIAN (talk) 08:13, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
