File talk:Flag of Chile.svg

Colors

(excuse my english)

How i said to Vzb83 in his discussion page, the colors of the flag of Chile are "turquesse blue", "white" and "red". simply red, not a browned red.

This messagge is to petition of Kookaburra.

--Antoine (Let's chuchadas begins) 06:47, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

...what does this have to do with Kookaburra? ¦ Reisio 08:55, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

I ask him to quote the source for his colour corrections to prevent unnecessary reverts. The official website ist here--Kookaburra 09:35, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Vexilla mundi recommends Pantone 186C for red and Pantone 286C for blue. According to FOTW, the general pantone colours associated with flags are 186C for red, 549C for Azure blue, 300C for Intermediate blue, 281C for Royal blue and 282C for Navy Blue. According to [1], the official definition for the colours is azul, blanco y rojo which translates (according to my dictionary) as azure, white and red. The conclusion is that the most suitable colours to be used in the Chilean flag would be 186C (Photoshop hexadecimal conversion #D21034) for red and 549C (#5B97B1) for blue. The blue tone seems a bit light to my eye, but then again it's close to 'azure' or 'sky blue' defined at the website of the President of Chile. Red tone is the same in both sources, and the current tone used (#FE000C) doesn't seem to have any foundation, so I'll change it and wait for discussion about which blue tone to be used. –Vzb83 18:17, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

FOTW also says that the Flag Institute recommends Pantone 286 C for 'blue' where no other tone is specified for it. –Vzb83 18:30, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

(excuse my english)

The translation of "azul" is "blue". I repeat, cin that page says a tone of a color, but in anything it influences if the "government of Chile" says that he is a "red" color, not a browned red o similar. The government in 1854 defines the proportion of colors, that colors of the flag are "navy blue", "blanco", and "red", which says such Vexilla Mundi does not serve as anything if the government, an official source, says that. And if he got to be a darker tone, he would not be that.

[2]. --Antoine (Let's chuchadas begins) 23:05, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

You cannot just ignore everything I have explained about the use of colours. You haven't given any explanation about why you think #fe000c you are using as "red" is the one and only correct tone for red there is. And since you haven't explained it I must assume that you have just picked a tone that looks most pleasing to you, which naturally isn't going to work here. Pantone 186 C is used as simply red by the Flag Institute, which is one of the leading researchers in vexillology. I've already pointed out two sources, one that recommends 186 C to depict the officially defined "red" in the Chilean flag and one that recommends using 186 C for red in every flag where no other specification than "red" is given to a colour. So unless you find a source for the specific tone you want to be used, you cannot revert to that version.

A correction here: 186 C is recommended as red by the British Navy's Flags of all nations; the Flag Institute recommends 032 C. –Vzb83 15:50, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

What you are saying about the blue is contradictory; first you translate it as "turquesse blue", then "blue" and then "navy blue". But let's deal with that after we have come to agreement with red :) –Vzb83 04:15, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Look, more easy for u... by the government of Chile, the red of his flag, is the "RED", no a red defined by the flag institute, the "Republic of Chile" is independent of external groups since 1810. Manuell Montt over his government defines "THAT COLOR", not other. --Antoine (Let's chuchadas begins) 05:22, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

You do not seem to understand the point: it is clear that the official definition for the colours are red, white and blue, but what is not clear is which exact tones are defined as red and blue. You still haven't given any explanation about why you think the definition for red is #fe000c and for blue #0c0f83; is this the official definition for those certain colours by the government of Chile? Or are they just picked by someone based on what looks nice? They must have a source if you want them to stay that way. You cannot keep on reverting to a version preferred by you if you don't have any information to support the chosen colours. I'm not going to continue this useless edit war anymore—instead I'll wait for your (or someone else's) explanation about how the current tones are the right definition for red and blue. –Vzb83 15:27, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

I've sent some emails and so far obtained this information: Album des Pavillons also recommends 186C for red and 286C for blue, specifically for the flag of Chile. From a flag-related mailing list, Christopher Southworth reported to have an official illustration of the Chilean flag which apparently does not specify any exact tones but uses blue that is approximately 286C and red that is near 186C but closer to 185C. Since the latter source is not exact but gives some direction about the official view, I'd definately go with 186C and 286C since there are several sources now behind them. Unless someone finds sources stating otherwise, I'll change the shades to the ones mentioned soon. My only goal is to find the most justified colours with sources behind them; I hope others will act by that principle as well. –Vzb83 20:01, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

I'm not an expert about vexillologism, design or something like that. According to the Chilean law (Decreto Supremo Nº 1534) the flag of Chile is "azul turquí, blanco y rojo" (turqui blue, white and red). There isn't any official especification about which kind of blue, red or white is the flag... According to the Spanish Academy, "azul turquí" means dark blue ([3]). The only reference about which kind of blue is the "azul turquí" (not turquoise) at Pantone is with the flag of Cuba (also turqui blue, white and red) and the blue at the cuban flag is #002A8F or Pantone 2765CVC ([4]). About the red, I have no idea if the red is correct or not. --KRATK 00:35, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Yep, u are right, excuse me. At least on the "iso" of the government of Chile ([[5]]), the red is well similar to the present one on commons. Whatever. Cheers! --Antoine (Let's chuchadas begins) 02:46, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

According to the logo of the government the colors should be Blue (Pantone 286C, the actual) and Red (Pantone 485C), but I don't like that red and blue still seems too clear. --KRATK 03:18, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Since the government logo has nearly the same tones as used here, it probably means that they are intended to be used in the flag as well. The blue tone given there looks much lighter than what Photoshop gave for the conversion of 286 C, but it might be meant for printing and therefore look a bit bright on a monitor. Should we switch the red tone to 485 C (~#DC241F)? Although a bit indirect way of getting the colours, at least we would have an official source. –Vzb83 09:16, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Until we don't have a real official source, I think that we should use the "official" colors from the government logo. --KRATK 19:38, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

I've changed the colors for the one of the page of the Government. Also, I changed the related flags that used the colors of this flag. --KRATK 21:16, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Enough versions

{{Edit protected}} On Feb 12, 2013 we got the 25^th version of that flag. It is a rather complicated drawing with cloning, and five (!) transformations. Very accurate, with really sufficient exactness, it can be drawn much simpler as

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="1500" height="1000" viewBox="0 0 24 16">
<path d="M24,16H0V0H24" fill="#D52B1E"/>
<path d="M8,8H0V0H8" fill="#0039A6"/>
<path d="m2.822,5.624 1.177-3.624 1.177,3.624-3.1-2.239h3.81M8,8H24V0H8" fill="#FFF"/>
</svg>

which will need only 299 bytes. I see no use to upload that version as the 26^th, I just mention it on the talk page. sarang♥사랑 17:10, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Sarang, I think that your version is better, I see no clear reason why someone reverted your flag version. I add {{Edit protected}} here although it's very late. --Hddty. (留言) 01:18, 19 December 2017 (UTC)