File talk:International reactions to the 2023 Gaza–Israel war.svg

Indonesia?

Why indonesia is maintaining a neutral stance between israel and palestine? Doesnt they appear in text below? Today there are some sources that indonesia will support pledge of palestine. 103.195.58.84 23:33, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes the anon editor's input is correct. Indonesia's support leans towards Palestine (Channel NewsAsia article on Pres. Joko Widodo's position). Also, Brunei air their support for Palestine (article by The Star of Malaysia). JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 05:20, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done, I've changed Indonesia and Brunei to orange. BlackShadowG (talk) 09:11, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Syria

Syria is pro-Palestine (orange): see this Reuters article. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 05:22, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done, I've changed Syria to orange. BlackShadowG (talk) 09:11, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oceania, Caribbean and comment on Namibia

Hello, I have added several reactions from Oceania and the Caribbean for consideration. And as for Namibia, please, why is it blue when the given statement (sourced) is even more orange-leaning? CoryGlee (talk) 10:46, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@CoryGlee:

Done, I've fixed Namibia to orange and colored Fiji, Nauru and Papua New Guinea. BlackShadowG (talk) 09:15, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

BlackShadowG Thank you, and sorry if I sounded demanding in the prose, you are doing an amazing job, which is not easy to keep up. Thank you again. --CoryGlee (talk) 09:48, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

My pleasure :) BlackShadowG (talk) 09:49, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Change colours

Azerbaijan's position is neutral and Jordan should be highlighted in Orange. Nothing in Azerbaijan's statement indicates that it is sympathetic to Israel and condemns Hamas. Likewise, Jordan is not neutral in what is happening. Dl.thinker (talk) 16:51, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Dl.thinker: Could you please provide some sources for these? As far as I know, Working Group for Azerbaijan-Israel Inter-Parliamentary Relations condemned Hamas ([1]), Jordan didn't condemned any belligerents. BlackShadowG (talk) 09:18, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@BlackShadowG: [2] “We condemn violence against civilians in the Israel-Palestine conflict zone,” the Azerbaijani Foreign Ministry said in an official statement that came hours after the attacks. “We express condolences for tragic loss of lives among many civilians both in Israel and Gaza Strip. We call for an urgent de-escalation of the situation.”--Dl.thinker (talk) 21:01, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic

"Evoking the serious developments in Palestine, the Permanent Bureau of the Polisario Front reaffirmed the solidarity of the Sahrawi people with the Palestinian people. For the Bureau, 'a just peace can only be realized by allowing the Palestinian people to exercise their legitimate rights in the establishment of their independent State, with Al-Quds Al-Sharif as its capital'" [3] يوسف قناوة (talk) 10:30, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@يوسف قناوة:

Done, I've changed Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic to orange. BlackShadowG (talk) 10:42, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Map Update

Support Israel: Democratic Republic of the Congo, Honduras

Neutral:Angola, Tanzania

Condemns Israel: Guinea-Bissau, Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic, Mauritania, Maldives, Myanmar

—— 2600:8807:BA02:B400:B87E:A42:550E:2C69 18:16, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sources or citations? JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 02:05, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Here's the citations:

[4] [5] [6] TheLibyanGuy (talk) 04:42, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've updated Democratic Republic of the Congo, Honduras and Tanzania, but Angola, Guinea-Bissau, Mauritania, Maldives and Myanmar are not mentioned in the sources, please provide some sources about reactions from these countries, thanks. BlackShadowG (talk) 11:31, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I found their reactions in en:International reactions to the 2023 Israel–Hamas war so I've updated the map. BlackShadowG (talk) 11:46, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi BlackShadowG, how are you? Hope fine. Sorry it's me again, please consider the Bahamas (kind of neutral, non-primary source) and Botswana (also, third-party source, also think as neutral). Only when you want and wish to. Best regards. --CoryGlee (talk) 11:54, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In addition, Rwanda supports Israel, while Zimbabwe condemns Israel [7] TheLibyanGuy (talk) 21:00, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry that I forgot Mauritania, but Angola and Guinea Bissau were in the other sources TheLibyanGuy (talk) 13:00, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Map update

Togo Condemn Hamas^[1]

Botswana, appears neutral? ^[2]

-- MaliMail (talk) 18:23, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ghana

Ghana is a neutral observer in the war. Please update the map. -—M@sssly^✉ 20:24, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Map Update

Rwanda condemns Hamas. Zimbabwe condemns Israel.

-- MaliMail (talk) 21:23, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have a source for this? DecafPotato (talk) 00:10, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Check my source in Map Update TheLibyanGuy (talk) 01:01, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Zimbabwe [8] and Rwanda [9] MaliMail (talk) 02:01, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@BlackShadowG

—- 2600:8807:BA02:B400:C003:46C1:8C9E:DC82 04:25, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

China and some other countries

Hello @BlackShadowG: . Does the Chinese Foreign Minister's inputs make China leaning towards Palestine? See this article from Xinhua.

Also, like someone said above, Rwanda leans to pro-Israel (source, via this). Sri Lanka seems to lean toward Israel too as per this source used in the international reactions article. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 22:43, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Palau

^[3]

-- MaliMail (talk) 12:23, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@MaliMail some advice: kindly use this link format: [https://islandtimes.org/palau-condemns-hamass-attack-on-israel/] instead of using cite web templates here, because this is the talk page and all of your links you presented end up going at the bottom, generating some clutter. Regards, JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 14:46, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

okay perfect MaliMail (talk) 15:34, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Azerbaijan

Azerbaijan should be grey. There's no evidence they have supported Israel. Yerevantsi (talk) 17:56, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think Colombia has turned orange with the President's threats

Anybody agree? Disagree? Thanks. President threatened to cut ties with Israel. 1 190.246.97.81 22:04, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Togo

Hi! Togo should be blue, nothing indicates neutrality. The FM statement only condemns Hamas. Cheers! CoryGlee (talk) 12:35, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Somali government

The Somali government condemns Israel for the Ahli Hospital bombing, claims Israel bears responsibility for the bombing: https://twitter.com/harunmaruf/status/1714566860027339152?s=46&t=NlWSJn13kVouHGakle2fkw Hantaleiyoamaan (talk) 14:23, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Add Orange-Grey striped for the following

These countries explicitly still called for Palestine to be a state and for Israel to respect Palestine sovereignty while calling for mediation/dialogue. Label it as "Urged de-escalation but reaffirmed support for Palestine"

Russia:[10]

Belarus:[11]

China:[12]

Egypt:[13]

Gabon:[14]

Mozambique:[15]

Venezuela:[16]

Bangladesh:[17]

Kazakhstan: [18]

Oman: [19]

Laos: [20]

--- MaliMail (talk) 15:31, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

and Turkey MaliMail (talk) 15:33, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Hantaleiyoamaan

Fix those pls and Cameroon blue, Mali and Niger Orange MaliMail (talk) 01:17, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Cameroon, Niger, and Mali

Cameroon condemns Hamas/Backs Israel while Mali and Niger back Palestine: [21] TheLibyanGuy (talk) 23:05, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Belarus and Turkey support Palestinians

Turkey [22]

Belarus [23]

-- MaliMail (talk) 16:33, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Fix Togo, Bangladesh and Pakistan Please

Togo supports Israel and isn't Neutral. [24]

Pakistan supports the Palestinians. [25]

Bangladesh supports the Palestinians. [26]

--- MaliMail (talk) 16:37, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Guinea Bissau should be neutral

[27]

--- MaliMail (talk) 16:41, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Belarus condemned Israel not Hamas

Belarus [28]

-- MaliMail (talk) 21:21, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

see notes made in map

Istanbul isn't colored correctly and there is a part of russia that, too, is not colored correctly Abo Yemen (talk) 14:00, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed -- GoombaKoopa (talk) 15:14, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

revert

Taiwan should be blue.[29]––Jasonzhuocn (talk) 17:33, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A notice

Here is the original map creator, sorry for the late reply, I've updated the map, countries that favored Palestine but did not condemn Israel are colored in orange and grey shade.

If you want to update the map yourself, please make sure to read File talk:BlankMap-World.svg/Documentation and never modify the original CSS of the file, as it will cause the map to appear strange. Thank you. BlackShadowG (talk) 04:39, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

CC@JWilz12345 @MaliMail @TheLibyanGuy @CoryGlee@Yerevantsi @Dl.thinker BlackShadowG (talk) 04:45, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@BlackShadowG thanks for updating. Unfortunately graphics is not my forte hehe. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 04:53, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

can you please make Russia like that? it should be like that

-- 2600:8807:BA02:B400:24C4:B2BB:5750:DA14 14:36, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done. BlackShadowG (talk) 10:32, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Indonesia correction

Considering that President Jokowi is neutral in the war and Indonesian officials mentioned "occupation of Palestine", it would be more accurate if Indonesia is in orange and grey shade. Please fix this asap.

Sources: https://www.thejakartapost.com/world/2023/10/08/indonesia-calls-for-end-to-violence-in-gaza.html

https://news.detik.com/berita/d-6975281/pernyataan-lengkap-jokowi-serukan-perang-israel-hamas-segera-dihentikan

Thank you in advance Underdwarf58 (talk) 15:50, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done. BlackShadowG (talk) 10:32, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Russia should be striped

@BlackShadowG

[30] MaliMail (talk) 19:53, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done. BlackShadowG (talk) 10:32, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Some countries should be striped

@BlackShadowG

First Orange-Grey stripes: Venezuela [31]

Blue-Grey stripes (condemned Hamas/Supported Israel but have called for resolving the means through dialogue/urged for restraint by Israel)

Ghana [32]

Sri Lanka

Ireland

Papua New Guinea [33]

-- MaliMail (talk) 21:43, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

France

Based on what France is marked as having a "neutral stance". I see in the historial of the changes that it is because they condemned the strike on the hospital. But most countries did. In the meanwhile, France is prohibitting protests in solidarity with the palestinian people, just as Germany, the UK and Italy (Spain, for instance, isn't) and Macron didn't say anything different than the rest of the western chorus, condemning the attacks by Hamas and pointing out Israëls right to self defence, albeit within international rules. France is as much tilted towards Israël as the rest of western Europe is. Maybe the color should be changed. - 91.126.122.28 15:23, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done France changed to blue. BlackShadowG (talk) 07:39, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

some countries should be striped

@BlackShadowG

First Orange-Grey stripes: Venezuela [34]

Blue-Grey stripes (condemned Hamas/Supported Israel but have called for resolving the means through dialogue/urged for restraint by Israel)

Ghana [35]

Sri Lanka

Ireland

Papua New Guinea [36]

--- MaliMail (talk) 16:55, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

UAE should be blue-orange striped MaliMail (talk) 16:56, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think we need to striped if they have condemned Hamas, strip seems like it should only be used when the statement is ambiguous. BlackShadowG (talk) 07:12, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Blue-Orange stripe = Neutrality and Gray for me.

But I think a Blue-Gray Stripe is needed. Most European nations condemn attacks from both Hamas and Israel, call for de-escalation plus also supporting Israel in general. Mavreju (talk) 07:45, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Map Update

File:International reactions to the 2023 Gaza–Israel war.svg

[37]

Move to Blue: Cabo Verde, Malawi, Seychelles, Barbados, East Timor, Lichtenstein, Solomon Islands, Tuvalu, Tonga, Kiribati, Marshall Islands, Micronesia

Move to Orange Striped: Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Uganda, Tanzania, Belize

Move to Orange: Guyana, Guinea, Congo (Republic of), Comoros, Central African Republic

--- MaliMail (talk) 22:55, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done. BlackShadowG (talk) 07:38, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Monaco and Dominican Republic should be blue too MaliMail (talk) 14:45, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Turkey should be orange striped as well, seeing as they voted against condemning Hamas TheLibyanGuy (talk) 18:18, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, which vote? Can you provide a link? I haven't seen this on the news. Mavreju (talk) 07:43, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In the source MaliMail provided up above. TheLibyanGuy (talk) 13:48, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In addition, Chad should also be Orange according to the source that MaliMail provided. TheLibyanGuy (talk) 13:54, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the source.

Idk, maybe it can be changed.

UAE is Blue and also voted Against. Mavreju (talk) 21:45, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

but Chad isn't blue and it voted against, but once again, Turkey should be orange striped TheLibyanGuy (talk) 23:04, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Turkey

@BlackShadowG and Mavreju: Per Erdogan's latest speech, Turkey should be pro-Palestine instead of neutral. It should be move to orange. A1Cafel (talk) 03:02, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Erdogan also condemned Hamas for the massacres and called for de-escalation. His latest words were mostly about the humanitarian situation in Gaza (which most European nations, incl. Switzerland, France, Ireland agreed) so I'm not sure Turkey should be something other than Neutral because the statements altogether are still ambigious imho. Mavreju (talk) 07:42, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

but he consistently said that Hamas was not a terrorist group TheLibyanGuy (talk) 23:05, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Should Turkey be Orange Striped? --A1Cafel (talk) 03:01, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Map Update

According to the wikipedia page Move to blue: Dominican Republic

Move to blue-grey stripped: Thailand

Move to red: Lebanon

Move to blue-orange stripped: Bosnia and Herzegovina, Myanmar Underdwarf58 (talk) 23:34, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

the Myanmar gov at the UN has no power, same with the one in Afghanistan, the junta and the Taliban are the ones in charge MaliMail (talk) 02:19, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Okay but how about the others? Underdwarf58 (talk) 11:43, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

agreed. Chad should be red too MaliMail (talk) 13:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Underdwarf58:

Done. BlackShadowG (talk) 05:20, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks but Thailand is still blue and not blue-grey stripped Underdwarf58 (talk) 08:57, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]