File talk:Map of the Schengen Area.svg

Why aren't the UK and Ireland coloured yellow? thanks, Sunil060902 (留言) 15:41, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

They are not "Legally obliged to join", they have a formal opt-out under the Amsterdam Treaty. See W:Schengen Area#EU member states with opt outs. They have voluntarily incorporated much of the Schengen acquis, but still retain (together, as part of their own Common Travel Area) a controlled border with the Schengen Area. Rob984 (留言) 22:37, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

I see now. OK, thanks. I'm sure I've seen your map shown in some WP articles as merely a "Schengen Area" versus "EU but outside Schengen" thing. thanks, Sunil060902 (留言) 14:31, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Spanish territory in North Africa

It may be informative to indicate this. Adriaan Joubert (留言) 23:44, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

Updated map to show temporary imposition of border controls

English: Given Austria, Denmark, Germany, Norway, Poland and Sweden have all temporarily imposed border controls as a result of the European migrant crisis and the French state of emergency means they have also, it would be good to show this on the map in the infobox at Schengen Area.

Français : Car l'Allemagne, l'Autriche, le Danemark, la Norvège, la Pologne et la Suède ont imposé contrôles douanières comme résultat de la crise migratoire en Europe et la France a fait similairement à cause de l'état d'urgence, il vaudrait mieux s'il y aurait une version de cette carte qui l'indiquait pour l'infobox à Espace Schengen.

— OwenBlacker (talk) 20:50, 2 October 2016 (UTC)

Greenland

Should Greenland also be listed under "open border"? http://naalakkersuisut.gl/en/About-government-of-greenland/About-Greenland/Coming-to-Greenland/Schengen-and-Tourists — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.145.208.115 (talk) 09:28, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

Ireland is in EU

The picture is wrong Steve Paaandaaa (留言) 07:21, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

In the EU but outside the Schengen area! --Edroeh (留言) 05:41, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

Croatia

is now in the Schengen area (since yesterday). Maybe someone could update the map. --Hyperdieter (留言) 15:54, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

Andorra is De Facto Schengen

This image needs updating. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Map_of_the_Schengen_Area.svg This link proves this. https://andorraguides.com/visa/schengen/ HelpfulHens (留言) 20:33, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

The link you provided doesn't prove Andorras status. Quote: "Andorra has not yet signed on to the Schengen Agreement, meaning it is necessary to pass through border control when travelling into/out of the country, either via Spain or France". Xolani (留言) 18:14, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

@Xolani: Could you please face Andorra light-blue? Andorra is a de-facto-Schengen-member. Thx. --Opihuck (留言) 14:00, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

@Opihuck I've seen your discussion, but I'm not really sure I follow. Are there actual sources for the fact that there are no border controls? "Mainly focusing on customs" is not the same as "Only focussing on customs", right? Xolani (留言) 21:59, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

No. See here: https://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/de/service/visa-und-aufenthalt/schengen/207786#content_6 Custom controls are no passenger controls. Schengen has nothing to do with custom controls. Look at the German-Swiss border: The countries both are schengen members although with still existing custom controls. --Opihuck (留言) 08:37, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

I've changed Andorra, finally :) Xolani (留言) 17:41, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you very much indeed :-) --Opihuck (留言) 18:11, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

@Nablicus Maybe you want to check out this discussion before reverting? Source seemed solid. Xolani (留言) 08:43, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Also, color scheme was changed for accessibility reasons. If the outcome of this discussion is "Andorra does not have open borders", then please change the circle to gray, don't revert. Xolani (留言) 08:52, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

The reference above only says that Andorra does not have any border controls to the Schengen area. It does not say that the Schengen area does not have any border controls to Andorra. There are clearly border control points at the Andorran border listed by the European Commission, see 'La Seo de Urgel' and 'Pas de la Case-Porta' in the consolidated list of border control points of the Schengen area. By contrast, there are no listed border control points at the borders to Monaco, San Marino, and the Vatican; they indeed have open borders to the Schengen area. Sorry for reverting your edit, but I was not able to just change the color of Andorra. --Nablicus (留言) 08:59, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

I'm not sure I'm able to overwrite again, without asking for overwriting privileges again. But in any case, I feel like this debate has been going in circles for too long. As a neutral observer I wonder, what conflict resolution mechanisms exist for such cases on Commons? @Nablicus @Opihuck you both seem quite convinced of your position.... Xolani (留言) 09:42, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

The situation is very odd. There is no legal basis for the relaxed border controls and there are some official border control points, but still the border is de facto open. Very few, if any, get controlled when passing. I contacted the European Commission to get this clarified. I therefore now agree that the map should indicate that the border to Andorra is open. --Nablicus (留言) 09:45, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Bulgaria & Romania

For further information how this change came about (including a discussion of MOS:Contrast, which I now adhere to), please check the talk page over at [1] Xolani (留言) 23:17, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Legend write only

Can someone add the legend in Italian? Here the traslation:

Italiano: Mappa dell'Area Schengen

 

Stati membri dello spazio Schengen

 

Stati membri dello spazio Schengen (solo frontiere marittime e aeree)

 

Stati UE che non partecipano a Schengen, ma vincolati ad aderirvi in futuro

 

Stati non UE privi di controlli di frontiera

Italian is my mother tongue, but he page is write only. --Skyfall (留言) 17:13, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

@Skyfall: ,  Done Abzeronow (留言) 00:20, 1 April 2024 (UTC)