File talk:Yu Wenxia in Mumbai Airport.jpg

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Vanya Mishra or Yu Wenxia[edit]

(from User talk:GRuban, [1])

Nice catch - yes, I agree, that is Yu Wenxia. I looked on the web a fair bit, and can find sources saying it's Vanya Mishra (https://www.bollywoodmantra.com/album/snapped-in-mumbai-international-airport-2013/vanya-mishra/) and sources saying it's Yu Wenxia (galatta.com/hindi/events/photos/miss-world-yu-wenxia-at-mumbai-internatinal-airport/15324/, https://www.missmalini.com/2013/01/20/meet-the-reigning-miss-world-yu-wenxia-and-a-hilarious-photo-bombing-kid/, https://businessofcinema.com/bollywood_news/airport-diaries-miss-world-yu-wenxia-heads-straight-for-filmfare-awards/57896), and it is hard to tell apart two dark haired beauty queens in sunglasses, but I think the key point is the beauty mark on the cheek. You see our photo has a dark mark on the middle of the right cheek? I can find that same mark in multiple photos of Yu Wenxia: https://bastardsofistanbul.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/yu-wenxia_4.jpg https://alchetron.com/Yu-Wenxia#yu-wenxia-0ba85cff-aa0d-4b6b-b52d-9379eb6043e-resize-750.jpeg http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-q8BhM7g075k/Udw--3V7RuI/AAAAAAAAAFE/p8Gv0vv8ERw/s1600/1+%25282%2529.JPG while it's clearly not there in several Vanya Mishra photos: https://photogallery.indiatimes.com/beauty-pageants/miss-india/pfmi12-winners-easter-lunch/articleshow/12581365.cms http://bollywoodaaina.blogspot.com/2012/03/vanya-mishra-crowned-miss-india-world.html (I guess it could have been airbrushed out in the latter, but I doubt it was airbrushed in in the former!). I'm going to rename our photo, and add this conversation on the image talk page, for details as to why we're renaming it! --GRuban (talk) 14:21, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@GRuban: thanks for looking the web so deeply. You again proved to be a gem for the project. What you think about the photo of the BH link is it suitable for Commons, as similar upload are available on Hamara photos in same timeframe. Thanks --C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 14:29, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Similar is OK, as long as they're not this specific photo. I looked at the Hamara Photos, and while there are plenty of similar ones, I can't find this exact same one. (Dark background, with faint blueish horizontal line above and behind her right shoulder...) I also can't find the other photos on the BH page on the HP page. I think these are genuine BH photos. I'm guessing there were multiple photographers there, some from (or which sold their photos to) Bollywood Hungama, some from Hamara Photos, some from Galatta... --GRuban (talk) 14:41, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Not quite. (Which is good, because if we can't trust that a BH watermarked photo is truly owned by BH, we might need to delete most of our BH photos; that's our main way of being sure.) First, of course, there's a watermark on the middle of the HP photo, so the BH photo couldn't have been just a copy of that one, it would have required complex editing. But also, notice our photo has two flowers (more like one and a quarter) in her bouquet, while the HP photo only has one - it's more narrow. Also, if you switch between them you'll see the head position is slightly different. The HP photo is maybe one degree more full face towards the viewer, the right ear is narrower, and you can see only two petals of the flower earring, while the BH photo is turned slightly more, the ear is wider, and you can see three and a half petals of the flower earring. Though I'll agree they're very close, I'm guessing they're both taken by the same photographer within one or a few seconds of each other, it looks like the photographer sold one of the series to BH and one to HP. (If you do the same switch back-and-forth trick with our photo and the BH photo, you'll see pixel-for-pixel identity except the watermark being edited away and replaced with grey sweater - whoever did that - did a good job.) --GRuban (talk) 13:46, 17 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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