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Hi. I', the WiR in the Valencian Museum of Ethnology. They have a great interest in releasing images of their collection, made by their personnel. They have a huge image where they illustrate the wide type of objects that can be used in an ethnological collection. The infography is shown in two sides, divided by a diagonal. In the right side are the "classical" objects of an Ethnological collection, while at the left side are represented "modern" ethnological objects. About the right side I find no mayor problem, the open request of opinions is about the left-inferior side of the diagonal. In this side are depicted a lot of industrial objects from the early 1900 until this date, with some publicity images from this dates. There some some images that will be obviously deleted (Massiel's screenshot in tv, being a derivate-work of the Eurovision broadcasting; also the Naranjito and Pumby characters) but there are some questions for me: shall We delete any other objects from this picture?

• I believe that the Macintosh 128K and other industrials objects are ok. If We can have photos in Commons, We can have drawings.
• I believe that other derivative works (Cola cao can with drawings, the Pong cartridge in the SNES, ...) are de minimins. Couldn't be?

All sugestions are welcome. The uploaded file could have the very same resolution as the pinterest image or could have a better resolution.--TaronjaSatsuma (talk) 11:06, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

Some countries protect industrial design / applied art through copyright; Spain does not appear to be one of them, so those should be fine. Stefan2 did recently mention a case U2009.875Ø in a Danish court, which ruled a photo of a statue which was part of a collage did not result in the collage being a derivative work. Not entirely sure the same is true in Spain (and I haven't seen the ruling either), but it's possible -- if so, all of it should be OK. It's hard to rule that anything is "incidental" (the wording in the EU copyright directive) since they were all intentionally included by the artist, but they could still be de minimis. The Eurovision one is likely the most problematic if not, and the characters you mention. Perhaps the old photos if they are still under copyright. Carl Lindberg (talk) 14:38, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. We'll check it out.--TaronjaSatsuma (talk) 08:23, 24 May 2016 (UTC)