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1 00:00:00,967 --> 00:00:03,267 Mr. Earnest: Good afternoon, everybody. 2 00:00:03,269 --> 00:00:05,939 It's been a while since we've met in this venue, so 3 00:00:05,939 --> 00:00:07,479 it's nice to get together again. 4 00:00:10,009 --> 00:00:11,209 I think this briefing is going to go a little 5 00:00:11,211 --> 00:00:12,851 different than we all anticipated it would 24 6 00:00:12,846 --> 00:00:15,216 hours ago, but I'll certainly do my best to 7 00:00:15,215 --> 00:00:18,015 answer the many questions you may have in the 8 00:00:18,017 --> 00:00:19,017 aftermath of the election. 9 00:00:19,018 --> 00:00:22,058 Let me just say a couple of things at the top -- three 10 00:00:22,055 --> 00:00:23,325 things, I should say. 11 00:00:23,323 --> 00:00:28,693 The first is I think the President and the tone and 12 00:00:28,695 --> 00:00:32,795 the priorities that he exhibited in the Rose Garden 13 00:00:32,799 --> 00:00:38,009 are indicative of the approach that the White 14 00:00:38,004 --> 00:00:41,674 House staff is taking to ensuring a smooth transition 15 00:00:41,674 --> 00:00:45,214 and working to ensure the success of the 16 00:00:45,211 --> 00:00:49,151 President-elect in leading and uniting the country. 17 00:00:49,149 --> 00:00:51,589 The second thing is the results of the election are 18 00:00:51,584 --> 00:00:55,954 not even 12 hours old, and I think it is far too early -- 19 00:00:55,955 --> 00:01:00,965 at least for me -- to discern exactly what message 20 00:01:05,331 --> 00:01:09,131 the voters were trying to send last night. 21 00:01:09,135 --> 00:01:11,705 There certainly is a lot of speculation about what that 22 00:01:11,704 --> 00:01:13,304 may have been. 23 00:01:13,306 --> 00:01:15,276 Most of that speculation emanates from people who 24 00:01:15,275 --> 00:01:17,315 predicted a very different result last night. 25 00:01:17,310 --> 00:01:21,610 So that's the essence of punditry -- nothing 26 00:01:21,614 --> 00:01:22,854 wrong with that. 27 00:01:22,849 --> 00:01:25,989 But it is why I think it's going to require more than 28 00:01:25,985 --> 00:01:29,855 12 hours of consideration and investigation to get to 29 00:01:29,856 --> 00:01:33,226 the bottom of what was actually motivating so many 30 00:01:33,226 --> 00:01:38,936 people who cast votes at the polls yesterday. 31 00:01:38,932 --> 00:01:41,672 The last thing is there are a lot of question that are, 32 00:01:41,668 --> 00:01:44,938 of course, raised about what impact the outcome of the 33 00:01:44,938 --> 00:01:48,508 election will have on the policies that this 34 00:01:48,508 --> 00:01:50,508 administration has prioritized over the 35 00:01:50,510 --> 00:01:51,510 last eight years. 36 00:01:51,511 --> 00:01:57,621 And I think it's going to be a difficult -- again, less 37 00:01:57,617 --> 00:01:59,957 than 12 hours after the outcome of the election is 38 00:01:59,953 --> 00:02:04,023 known it's difficult to offer a lot of precision in 39 00:02:04,023 --> 00:02:07,123 answering those questions today, but certainly in the 40 00:02:07,126 --> 00:02:09,126 weeks and months ahead, over the course of this 41 00:02:09,128 --> 00:02:11,128 transition, we may get some greater insight into that. 42 00:02:13,333 --> 00:02:18,303 But so with those two cautions at the top, let me 43 00:02:22,909 --> 00:02:24,509 do my best to answer your questions today. 44 00:02:24,511 --> 00:02:27,811 Darlene, do you want to go first? 45 00:02:27,814 --> 00:02:29,314 The Press: In all the campaigning that we've seen 46 00:02:29,315 --> 00:02:31,685 the President do for Hillary Clinton over the last couple 47 00:02:31,684 --> 00:02:35,084 of months, he talked a lot about her being the one to 48 00:02:35,088 --> 00:02:38,888 carry on -- to continue the progress that he achieved. 49 00:02:38,892 --> 00:02:41,692 And she often talked about being the one wanting to 50 00:02:41,694 --> 00:02:43,934 continue that progress. 51 00:02:43,930 --> 00:02:47,800 Despite what you said at the top, does the President feel 52 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:52,340 in any way that the results of last night were some sort 53 00:02:52,338 --> 00:02:55,108 of a rejection of Hillary, but not only a rejection of 54 00:02:55,108 --> 00:02:57,978 her but also of him, since the two of them were so 55 00:02:57,977 --> 00:03:02,177 closely bound together during the campaign? 56 00:03:02,181 --> 00:03:03,781 Mr. Earnest: I think that's an entirely fair question to 57 00:03:03,783 --> 00:03:05,783 ask, and I think it's an important 58 00:03:05,785 --> 00:03:07,255 question to answer. 59 00:03:07,253 --> 00:03:09,253 I don't know that anybody has the direct answer to 60 00:03:09,255 --> 00:03:11,255 that question now because there are 61 00:03:11,257 --> 00:03:12,257 some relevant facts. 62 00:03:12,258 --> 00:03:14,758 The first is that Secretary Clinton won 63 00:03:14,761 --> 00:03:16,461 the popular vote. 64 00:03:16,462 --> 00:03:20,362 Now, winning the popular vote is not what gets you 65 00:03:20,366 --> 00:03:21,366 the keys to the Oval Office. 66 00:03:21,367 --> 00:03:23,367 You got to win the electoral vote. 67 00:03:23,369 --> 00:03:25,369 And I think everybody -- I know that everybody knew the 68 00:03:25,371 --> 00:03:27,571 rules going into the contest. 69 00:03:27,574 --> 00:03:32,884 But it does underscore the depth of support and 70 00:03:32,879 --> 00:03:36,219 enthusiasm for her message and for her campaign. 71 00:03:36,215 --> 00:03:41,225 And that is a testament to her leadership and her 72 00:03:44,090 --> 00:03:49,060 ability to build support for a national campaign. 73 00:03:51,764 --> 00:03:56,134 The other thing that happens to be true is there are a 74 00:03:56,135 --> 00:04:00,905 lot of people -- again, the math requires this -- who 75 00:04:00,907 --> 00:04:03,977 voted for Barack Obama in 2008, who voted for his 76 00:04:03,977 --> 00:04:06,417 reelection in 2012, and voted for 77 00:04:06,412 --> 00:04:08,412 Donald Trump in 2016. 78 00:04:10,750 --> 00:04:16,460 And I think it's -- I don't have an explanation for 79 00:04:16,456 --> 00:04:19,556 that, to put it bluntly. 80 00:04:19,559 --> 00:04:24,569 But I think certainly all of your networks and all of you 81 00:04:26,933 --> 00:04:29,573 are going to spend some time pondering that question, 82 00:04:29,569 --> 00:04:31,869 spend some time looking at the returns, looking at the 83 00:04:31,871 --> 00:04:34,541 exit polls, and maybe even spending some time in some 84 00:04:34,540 --> 00:04:41,710 of those communities across the country where Mr. Trump 85 00:04:41,714 --> 00:04:45,054 -- President-elect Trump enjoyed such strong support 86 00:04:45,051 --> 00:04:50,461 -- support that exceeded the expectations of everybody -- 87 00:04:50,456 --> 00:04:51,926 apparently, even exceeded the expectations of 88 00:04:51,924 --> 00:04:54,664 the Trump campaign. 89 00:04:54,661 --> 00:04:59,461 So that's a worthy question, but I'm not going to pretend 90 00:04:59,465 --> 00:05:03,535 I have a real direct answer for you. 91 00:05:03,536 --> 00:05:06,706 But it's one that's worthy of careful consideration. 92 00:05:06,706 --> 00:05:09,576 The Press: Another thing that we heard him say while 93 00:05:09,575 --> 00:05:11,945 out on the campaign trail is that progress was on the 94 00:05:11,944 --> 00:05:14,944 ballot and that if Hillary wasn't elected all of that 95 00:05:15,248 --> 00:05:16,448 progress would go out the window, down the 96 00:05:17,583 --> 00:05:18,423 drain, would be lost. 97 00:05:20,019 --> 00:05:22,359 What does the outcome last night do for the legacy the 98 00:05:22,855 --> 00:05:26,995 President wants to leave behind -- from Obamacare to 99 00:05:26,993 --> 00:05:29,563 the Iran nuclear deal, to putting a third Supreme 100 00:05:29,562 --> 00:05:31,002 Court justice -- a justice on the 101 00:05:30,997 --> 00:05:33,897 Supreme Court, and more? 102 00:05:33,900 --> 00:05:36,500 Mr. Earnest: Well, again, Darlene, just with the 103 00:05:36,502 --> 00:05:40,272 caution that we're 12 hours -- less than 12 hours away 104 00:05:40,273 --> 00:05:47,183 from this election being decided, there are some 105 00:05:47,180 --> 00:05:50,250 things that we knew to be true before the results 106 00:05:50,249 --> 00:05:52,349 started being tallied. 107 00:05:52,351 --> 00:05:56,191 And one of those things was that the next President -- 108 00:05:56,189 --> 00:05:59,489 whether it was Secretary Clinton or Mr. Trump -- was 109 00:05:59,492 --> 00:06:02,062 going to have some difficult challenges and some 110 00:06:02,061 --> 00:06:06,931 difficult questions to answer with regard to a 111 00:06:06,933 --> 00:06:09,773 range of policies. 112 00:06:09,769 --> 00:06:12,039 We know that our economy is facing some pretty intense 113 00:06:12,038 --> 00:06:15,178 headwinds from overseas. 114 00:06:15,174 --> 00:06:19,144 What's the kind of approach that the next President will 115 00:06:19,145 --> 00:06:23,085 take to ensuring that our economy can strengthen and 116 00:06:23,082 --> 00:06:31,192 navigate those headwinds in a way that benefits the 117 00:06:31,190 --> 00:06:33,790 American middle class and not just those at the top? 118 00:06:33,793 --> 00:06:35,633 That's a difficult challenge that any President would 119 00:06:35,628 --> 00:06:37,428 have to face, and certainly President-elect Trump will 120 00:06:37,430 --> 00:06:40,400 have to determine the best path for confronting that. 121 00:06:40,399 --> 00:06:44,869 Either President would inherit a country that has 122 00:06:44,871 --> 00:06:49,781 some deep and passionate political differences. 123 00:06:49,776 --> 00:06:53,176 And what will President-elect Trump do to 124 00:06:53,179 --> 00:06:56,149 unite the country? 125 00:06:56,149 --> 00:06:57,079 It won't be easy. 126 00:06:57,083 --> 00:07:12,963 We know that's for sure. 127 00:07:12,965 --> 00:07:14,965 We do know that he can count on the support of President 128 00:07:14,967 --> 00:07:16,967 Obama and Secretary Clinton, both who in the last couple 129 00:07:16,969 --> 00:07:18,969 of hours have pledged their support to him as 130 00:07:18,971 --> 00:07:19,971 he works to do that. 131 00:07:19,972 --> 00:07:21,972 Either President -- either Secretary Clinton or 132 00:07:21,974 --> 00:07:23,974 Mr. Trump -- would have faced a deeply divided 133 00:07:23,976 --> 00:07:25,976 Congress that appears totally dysfunctional, or at 134 00:07:25,978 --> 00:07:27,978 least it has appeared totally dysfunctional in 135 00:07:27,980 --> 00:07:28,980 the last two years. 136 00:07:28,981 --> 00:07:30,981 And it's difficult to know -- it's difficult to see how 137 00:07:30,983 --> 00:07:31,983 that's going to change. 138 00:07:31,984 --> 00:07:35,354 And they'll have to navigate -- President-elect Trump and 139 00:07:35,354 --> 00:07:37,354 his team will have to figure out how 140 00:07:37,356 --> 00:07:40,696 to navigate that situation. 141 00:07:40,693 --> 00:07:43,693 And it won't be easy, either. 142 00:07:43,696 --> 00:07:47,496 So I guess the point is, it's too early to tell 143 00:07:47,500 --> 00:07:49,500 exactly what the impact will be. 144 00:07:49,502 --> 00:07:53,202 There will be an impact, but we knew there would be, 145 00:07:53,206 --> 00:07:55,206 regardless of the outcome of the race. 146 00:07:55,208 --> 00:07:58,408 And there certainly were some priorities where 147 00:07:58,411 --> 00:08:01,151 Secretary Clinton didn't agree with President Obama, 148 00:08:01,147 --> 00:08:05,857 and in a different scenario, she would be -- you'd be 149 00:08:05,852 --> 00:08:08,052 asking me the same question about some of those 150 00:08:08,054 --> 00:08:09,154 policy priorities, too. 151 00:08:09,155 --> 00:08:14,165 And what's true is that the President-elect has some 152 00:08:19,365 --> 00:08:22,265 difficult questions to answer and some big 153 00:08:22,268 --> 00:08:23,808 challenges to tackle. 154 00:08:23,803 --> 00:08:27,303 And it's why it's so important for there to be a 155 00:08:27,306 --> 00:08:31,046 smooth and effective, efficient transition from 156 00:08:31,043 --> 00:08:33,783 President Obama's presidency to the Trump presidency, 157 00:08:33,779 --> 00:08:39,089 because as Americans, we're rooting for the success of 158 00:08:39,085 --> 00:08:43,655 our President in leading and uniting the country. 159 00:08:43,656 --> 00:08:45,026 The Press: Are there any more details that you can 160 00:08:45,024 --> 00:08:47,394 share about the phone call between the President 161 00:08:47,393 --> 00:08:49,333 and President-elect? 162 00:08:49,328 --> 00:08:50,798 Can you say how long they spoke? 163 00:08:50,796 --> 00:08:53,336 Did they get into any issues of any substance, or was it 164 00:08:53,332 --> 00:08:56,702 purely just, congratulations on your victory? 165 00:08:56,702 --> 00:08:57,602 Mr. Earnest: My understanding is it was not 166 00:08:57,603 --> 00:08:59,443 a lengthy call. 167 00:08:59,438 --> 00:09:04,208 It did take place very, very late last night. 168 00:09:04,210 --> 00:09:06,650 And based on the fact that there was a discussion about 169 00:09:06,646 --> 00:09:10,386 meeting in person on Thursday, the specifics of 170 00:09:10,383 --> 00:09:12,623 any sort of policy discussions will 171 00:09:12,618 --> 00:09:14,288 be left until then. 172 00:09:14,287 --> 00:09:16,327 The Press: Was not lengthy -- less than a minute? 173 00:09:16,322 --> 00:09:17,252 A couple minutes? 174 00:09:17,256 --> 00:09:18,426 Mr. Earnest: I don't know with a lot of precision 175 00:09:18,424 --> 00:09:19,594 exactly what the timing was. 176 00:09:19,592 --> 00:09:22,132 If there are more details about that that we can 177 00:09:22,128 --> 00:09:24,768 provide, we'll do so. Jeff. 178 00:09:24,764 --> 00:09:27,934 The Press: Josh, on the policy differences, is there 179 00:09:27,934 --> 00:09:30,874 anything that the White House or your administration 180 00:09:30,870 --> 00:09:36,410 will do in closing months to shore up priorities on 181 00:09:36,409 --> 00:09:40,179 policy areas like the Affordable Care Act, climate 182 00:09:40,179 --> 00:09:43,979 change, the Iran deal -- all of which now-President-elect 183 00:09:43,983 --> 00:09:47,883 Trump called into question during his campaign? 184 00:09:47,887 --> 00:09:50,557 Mr. Earnest: Well, let me start by saying that 185 00:09:50,556 --> 00:09:51,956 President Obama will remain in office and will be the 186 00:09:51,958 --> 00:09:53,928 President of the United States until January 20th. 187 00:09:53,926 --> 00:09:58,096 And we will pursue policies accordingly, including the 188 00:09:58,097 --> 00:10:02,297 kinds of priorities that you have just enumerated. 189 00:10:02,301 --> 00:10:06,501 What's also true is that the President-elect, in the 190 00:10:06,505 --> 00:10:12,145 context of a smooth and effective transition, will 191 00:10:12,144 --> 00:10:17,154 have an opportunity to get briefed by members of 192 00:10:17,149 --> 00:10:19,719 President Obama's team and actually have a conversation 193 00:10:19,719 --> 00:10:21,859 with President Obama himself about some 194 00:10:21,854 --> 00:10:22,854 of these priorities. 195 00:10:22,855 --> 00:10:29,325 And I'm not going to speak for him or predict exactly 196 00:10:29,328 --> 00:10:31,328 what sort of policy decisions he's going to make 197 00:10:34,734 --> 00:10:37,174 -- and he was pretty explicit on the campaign 198 00:10:37,169 --> 00:10:42,609 trail -- but part of a smooth transition is 199 00:10:42,608 --> 00:10:47,178 ensuring that they have the latest available information 200 00:10:47,179 --> 00:10:49,649 about the status of these policies. 201 00:10:49,648 --> 00:10:51,948 And that's something that our administration is 202 00:10:51,951 --> 00:10:54,791 committed to providing. 203 00:10:54,787 --> 00:10:56,257 The Press: Aside from providing that information, 204 00:10:56,255 --> 00:11:00,155 is there anything that your administration will do to 205 00:11:00,159 --> 00:11:04,399 sort of put up a firewall to maintain some of these 206 00:11:04,397 --> 00:11:07,797 programs in place against what will probably be 207 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,870 efforts to repeal, in Obamacare's case, or to 208 00:11:11,871 --> 00:11:15,171 slow-walk on climate change, or to rip up the Iran deal? 209 00:11:15,174 --> 00:11:18,374 Mr. Earnest: Jeff, our position on all those issues 210 00:11:18,377 --> 00:11:20,417 is well known and something that we've reviewed 211 00:11:20,413 --> 00:11:21,783 in here at some length. 212 00:11:21,781 --> 00:11:24,451 I'll spare you most of that. 213 00:11:24,450 --> 00:11:28,850 But I think the way that I'd respond to that is there's 214 00:11:28,854 --> 00:11:32,754 no specific thing that I have in mind that we're 215 00:11:32,758 --> 00:11:35,098 going to do differently now. 216 00:11:35,094 --> 00:11:39,804 Our plan all along was to ensure the successful 217 00:11:39,799 --> 00:11:43,439 implementation of those and other priorities, and we're 218 00:11:43,436 --> 00:11:47,106 going to be committed to doing everything we can to 219 00:11:47,106 --> 00:11:49,306 ensure the success of those policies between 220 00:11:49,608 --> 00:11:51,908 now and January 20th. 221 00:11:51,911 --> 00:11:55,951 So the easiest example is the Affordable Care Act. 222 00:11:55,948 --> 00:11:58,088 This administration is going to continue to make a strong 223 00:11:58,084 --> 00:12:03,154 case that people should go to HealthCare.gov, consider 224 00:12:03,155 --> 00:12:05,495 the options that are available to them, and sign 225 00:12:05,491 --> 00:12:07,891 up for health care, and the vast majority of people who 226 00:12:07,893 --> 00:12:10,363 do will be able to purchase health insurance for 227 00:12:10,362 --> 00:12:11,932 $75 a month or less. 228 00:12:14,033 --> 00:12:18,843 That is a policy priority that benefits the 229 00:12:18,838 --> 00:12:21,008 American people enormously. 230 00:12:21,006 --> 00:12:23,606 Since the Affordable Care Act went into effect, 20 231 00:12:23,609 --> 00:12:26,549 million Americans got access to health care. 232 00:12:26,545 --> 00:12:29,215 And we want to make sure that as many Americans as 233 00:12:29,215 --> 00:12:31,685 possible understand the opportunity 234 00:12:31,684 --> 00:12:32,554 that's available to them. 235 00:12:37,089 --> 00:12:40,489 The President-elect, when he enters office, will have his 236 00:12:40,493 --> 00:12:46,303 own opportunity to set the course of health care policy 237 00:12:46,298 --> 00:12:49,038 in this country in a way that he sees fit. 238 00:12:49,034 --> 00:12:52,634 It's going to require some cooperation with Congress, 239 00:12:52,638 --> 00:12:54,538 and that won't be easy. 240 00:12:54,540 --> 00:12:59,380 But there's a lot at stake, and Republicans in the 241 00:12:59,378 --> 00:13:02,478 Congress have voted 50 times to repeal the Affordable 242 00:13:02,481 --> 00:13:04,481 Care Act, and each time they did that, they were voting 243 00:13:04,483 --> 00:13:07,083 to take health care away from 22 million Americans. 244 00:13:07,086 --> 00:13:11,956 They were voting to strip critically important 245 00:13:11,957 --> 00:13:14,027 consumer protections from people that prevent them 246 00:13:14,026 --> 00:13:15,996 from being discriminated against because they have a 247 00:13:15,995 --> 00:13:17,995 preexisting condition, or paying more for their health 248 00:13:17,997 --> 00:13:19,997 insurance just because they're a woman. 249 00:13:19,999 --> 00:13:21,999 Those are the kinds of protections that don't just 250 00:13:22,001 --> 00:13:24,001 benefit the 20 million Americans who got health 251 00:13:24,003 --> 00:13:26,003 care since the Affordable Care Act went into effect, 252 00:13:26,005 --> 00:13:30,605 but the 100 million or 150 million Americans that get 253 00:13:30,609 --> 00:13:33,049 access to health care through their employer. 254 00:13:33,045 --> 00:13:37,685 So these are the kinds of decisions that the incoming 255 00:13:37,683 --> 00:13:40,683 administration and the incoming Congress will be 256 00:13:40,686 --> 00:13:43,456 challenged to make. 257 00:13:43,455 --> 00:13:45,825 The Press: How do you reassure foreign allies, 258 00:13:45,824 --> 00:13:48,464 particularly on issues like the climate change deal, the 259 00:13:48,460 --> 00:13:54,570 Paris agreement, or the Iran deal, that these things will 260 00:13:54,567 --> 00:13:57,237 continue when the person who is succeeding President 261 00:13:57,236 --> 00:13:59,936 Obama said they wouldn't? 262 00:13:59,939 --> 00:14:01,539 Mr. Earnest: Well, Jeff, there are a couple things. 263 00:14:01,540 --> 00:14:03,740 The first is, obviously, this administration will be 264 00:14:03,742 --> 00:14:05,742 committed to implementing those policies through 265 00:14:05,744 --> 00:14:08,814 January 20th and we will live up to the commitments 266 00:14:08,814 --> 00:14:12,714 that we have made in each of those areas as we do so. 267 00:14:12,718 --> 00:14:15,718 Second, there is a tradition, particularly with 268 00:14:15,721 --> 00:14:20,021 regard to executive agreements, of successive 269 00:14:20,025 --> 00:14:22,465 Presidents preserving some element of continuity. 270 00:14:24,463 --> 00:14:27,063 I don't know whether or not that will fly in this case. 271 00:14:27,066 --> 00:14:30,466 But as a part of this effective, smooth 272 00:14:30,469 --> 00:14:34,369 transition, President Obama will have an opportunity to 273 00:14:34,373 --> 00:14:36,743 talk to President-elect Trump about some of these 274 00:14:36,742 --> 00:14:38,742 policies and about some of the benefits of some 275 00:14:38,744 --> 00:14:40,384 of these policies. 276 00:14:40,379 --> 00:14:42,379 The President-elect's team will have an opportunity to 277 00:14:42,381 --> 00:14:45,851 get briefed by the national security experts here in the 278 00:14:45,851 --> 00:14:47,851 Obama administration that have been working on 279 00:14:47,853 --> 00:14:49,393 implementing these policies. 280 00:14:49,388 --> 00:14:53,258 But, ultimately, the President-elect will be the 281 00:14:53,259 --> 00:14:58,799 person that is responsible for setting the path of 282 00:14:58,797 --> 00:15:00,797 foreign policy for the United States for 283 00:15:00,799 --> 00:15:01,799 the next four years. 284 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:06,070 And presumably, some of that strategy that he will pursue 285 00:15:06,071 --> 00:15:10,041 will involve reassuring the allies that enhance the 286 00:15:10,042 --> 00:15:12,582 national security of the United States. 287 00:15:12,578 --> 00:15:17,818 That certainly was part of President Obama's -- the 288 00:15:17,816 --> 00:15:22,926 foreign policy path that President Obama charted, and 289 00:15:22,921 --> 00:15:25,261 previous Presidents have as well. 290 00:15:25,257 --> 00:15:26,157 But obviously President-elect Trump will 291 00:15:26,158 --> 00:15:27,258 have to make that decision for himself once he enters 292 00:15:27,259 --> 00:15:29,759 the Oval Office on the 293 00:15:29,762 --> 00:15:34,002 afternoon of January 20th. April. 294 00:15:33,999 --> 00:15:37,199 The Press: Josh, I want to go back to the firewall and 295 00:15:37,202 --> 00:15:40,302 ACA, and his conversation tomorrow. 296 00:15:40,306 --> 00:15:42,706 Is this a tomorrow conversation? 297 00:15:42,708 --> 00:15:43,508 Is this a conversation that's going to continue 298 00:15:43,809 --> 00:15:47,509 when it comes to ACA, a legacy piece 299 00:15:47,513 --> 00:15:48,313 for this President? 300 00:15:48,314 --> 00:15:51,054 And what would that conversation look like that 301 00:15:51,050 --> 00:15:54,720 the President would offer to Donald Trump about ACA and 302 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,920 its viability -- tweaking but not getting rid of it? 303 00:15:57,923 --> 00:15:59,593 Mr. Earnest: Well, April, the thing I can for sure 304 00:15:59,591 --> 00:16:01,631 tell you is the President's top priority is not his 305 00:16:01,627 --> 00:16:03,467 legacy but the 20 million Americans who have health 306 00:16:03,462 --> 00:16:05,862 insurance -- or who got their health insurance since 307 00:16:05,864 --> 00:16:08,504 the Affordable Care Act went into effect. 308 00:16:08,500 --> 00:16:11,100 He is quite concerned about stripping protections from 309 00:16:11,103 --> 00:16:15,843 the more than 100 million Americans who benefit from 310 00:16:15,841 --> 00:16:17,841 protections that prevent insurance companies from 311 00:16:17,843 --> 00:16:21,143 discriminating against them because of a preexisting 312 00:16:21,146 --> 00:16:26,156 condition, or imposing lifetime caps that certainly 313 00:16:26,151 --> 00:16:29,521 put young people with an 314 00:16:29,521 --> 00:16:31,621 illness at pretty great risk. 315 00:16:31,623 --> 00:16:34,063 Those are the kinds of consumer protections that 316 00:16:34,059 --> 00:16:36,429 are part and parcel of the Affordable Care Act, and 317 00:16:36,428 --> 00:16:40,468 tearing them away would negatively 318 00:16:40,466 --> 00:16:42,366 affect a lot of people. 319 00:16:42,368 --> 00:16:44,168 And that's something that Republicans will have to 320 00:16:44,169 --> 00:16:47,239 consider moving forward. 321 00:16:47,239 --> 00:16:49,079 In terms of these kinds of conversations, the way that 322 00:16:49,074 --> 00:16:53,684 the transition is structured is that there are transition 323 00:16:53,679 --> 00:16:55,349 teams that have been designated across the 324 00:16:55,347 --> 00:16:58,947 agencies at the federal government. 325 00:16:58,951 --> 00:17:01,851 And the President-elect's transition team has 326 00:17:01,854 --> 00:17:07,764 designated teams to work with those individual agency 327 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,130 teams to ensure a smooth transition. 328 00:17:10,129 --> 00:17:14,869 So there will be a venue for staff-level conversations to 329 00:17:14,867 --> 00:17:18,107 take place -- high-level, staff-level conversations. 330 00:17:18,103 --> 00:17:21,443 But I wouldn't predict at this point whether or not 331 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:22,940 this will come up in the conversation between 332 00:17:22,941 --> 00:17:25,211 President Obama and President-elect Trump, but 333 00:17:25,210 --> 00:17:26,850 if this is something that President-elect Trump is 334 00:17:26,845 --> 00:17:28,485 interested in talking about, I'm confident that President 335 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,780 Obama won't hesitate to spend some time doing so. 336 00:17:31,784 --> 00:17:32,614 The Press: And la question. 337 00:17:32,618 --> 00:17:37,058 On the issue of unifying the nation after what this White 338 00:17:37,055 --> 00:17:42,425 House calls a hard-fought election cycle, many are 339 00:17:42,428 --> 00:17:45,598 looking at -- many people, be it Democrat or 340 00:17:45,597 --> 00:17:48,467 Republican, black or white -- they're looking at what's 341 00:17:48,467 --> 00:17:51,007 going to come in the next four years. 342 00:17:51,003 --> 00:17:55,073 A Supreme Court that's going to lean to the right. 343 00:17:55,073 --> 00:17:57,873 The House and Senate majority Republican and the 344 00:17:57,876 --> 00:18:02,886 White House a Republican President. 345 00:18:02,881 --> 00:18:03,951 I talked to someone this morning -- a black 346 00:18:03,949 --> 00:18:06,749 Republican, Christopher Darden, a former O.J. 347 00:18:06,752 --> 00:18:09,552 Simpson prosecutor -- who said this is going to create 348 00:18:09,555 --> 00:18:12,955 a new type of activism in this nation. 349 00:18:12,958 --> 00:18:17,298 How do you marry the thought of this new activism and the 350 00:18:17,296 --> 00:18:20,336 unification that the President has talked about 351 00:18:20,332 --> 00:18:21,932 at the same time? 352 00:18:21,934 --> 00:18:24,104 Mr. Earnest: Well, I think the President in some ways 353 00:18:24,102 --> 00:18:26,102 addressed this in his remarks in the Rose Garden 354 00:18:26,104 --> 00:18:30,344 about encouraging young people who were engaged in 355 00:18:30,342 --> 00:18:33,242 the political process in this election for 356 00:18:33,245 --> 00:18:35,645 the very first time. 357 00:18:35,647 --> 00:18:40,717 And the President made an effort to encourage young 358 00:18:40,719 --> 00:18:42,659 people who got engaged in the process not to be 359 00:18:42,654 --> 00:18:44,154 discouraged by the outcome. 360 00:18:46,592 --> 00:18:49,332 Everybody is discouraged when the candidate they're 361 00:18:49,328 --> 00:18:50,298 supporting loses an election. 362 00:18:53,565 --> 00:18:55,335 But the genius and brilliance of our democracy 363 00:18:58,570 --> 00:19:02,010 is that when the election is over, we recognize that 364 00:19:02,007 --> 00:19:03,507 we're Americans and patriots before 365 00:19:03,509 --> 00:19:07,279 we're Democrats and Republicans. 366 00:19:07,279 --> 00:19:09,249 And that is certainly a principle that President 367 00:19:09,248 --> 00:19:14,888 Obama and Secretary Clinton have forcefully advocated in 368 00:19:14,887 --> 00:19:17,487 the last 90 minutes or so. 369 00:19:17,489 --> 00:19:23,229 And I think that's part of the reason that so many 370 00:19:23,228 --> 00:19:25,828 people are proud of the campaign that Secretary 371 00:19:25,831 --> 00:19:28,871 Clinton ran, proud of the progress that has been made 372 00:19:28,867 --> 00:19:29,767 in this country under 373 00:19:29,768 --> 00:19:31,538 President Obama's leadership. 374 00:19:31,537 --> 00:19:34,077 And, frankly, it's why so many young people were and 375 00:19:34,072 --> 00:19:37,112 have been inspired over the course of President Obama's 376 00:19:37,109 --> 00:19:39,509 career in public life, but also in the context of 377 00:19:39,511 --> 00:19:43,051 Secretary Clinton's campaign for the presidency. 378 00:19:43,048 --> 00:19:47,518 So if the outcome of this election encourages more 379 00:19:47,519 --> 00:19:51,619 people to be engaged in the important but difficult work 380 00:19:51,623 --> 00:19:53,823 of governing this country, that would be 381 00:19:53,825 --> 00:19:55,495 a really good thing. 382 00:19:55,494 --> 00:19:59,534 And I say that regardless of whether or not that young 383 00:19:59,531 --> 00:20:03,271 person who is mobilized to act is a 384 00:20:03,268 --> 00:20:04,708 Democrat or Republican. 385 00:20:04,703 --> 00:20:06,503 The President believes that our democracy benefits from 386 00:20:06,505 --> 00:20:08,505 more people being engaged and more people being 387 00:20:08,507 --> 00:20:10,247 involved in the debate, regardless of which 388 00:20:10,242 --> 00:20:12,512 candidate they support. 389 00:20:12,511 --> 00:20:15,181 Our democracy is strengthened when more 390 00:20:15,180 --> 00:20:18,180 voices and more perspectives and more views are 391 00:20:18,183 --> 00:20:20,653 incorporated into the process 392 00:20:20,652 --> 00:20:21,522 of governing this country. 393 00:20:23,855 --> 00:20:27,995 And the risk, really, --and this is what the President 394 00:20:27,993 --> 00:20:30,463 was sort of warning against -- is people being so 395 00:20:30,462 --> 00:20:31,632 discouraged that they choose to 396 00:20:31,630 --> 00:20:35,100 withdraw from that debate. 397 00:20:35,100 --> 00:20:36,870 The President is surely hopeful that 398 00:20:36,868 --> 00:20:38,708 that won't happen. 399 00:20:38,704 --> 00:20:39,774 The Press: And one last piece. 400 00:20:39,771 --> 00:20:42,111 The President was at the microphone in the Rose 401 00:20:42,107 --> 00:20:45,347 Garden, he seemed hopeful, optimistic. 402 00:20:45,344 --> 00:20:47,314 But really, behind the scenes, what 403 00:20:47,312 --> 00:20:48,952 is his mood today? 404 00:20:48,947 --> 00:20:50,447 Mr. Earnest: I've had an opportunity to spend a 405 00:20:50,449 --> 00:20:53,619 little time with him this morning, and the mood that 406 00:20:53,619 --> 00:20:58,929 was on display in the Rose Garden is the mood that he 407 00:20:58,924 --> 00:21:02,494 was showing in private as well. 408 00:21:02,494 --> 00:21:05,494 Look, I'm not trying to convince you that he's not 409 00:21:05,497 --> 00:21:08,337 disappointed by the outcome. 410 00:21:08,333 --> 00:21:12,333 Everybody around here is disappointed by the outcome, 411 00:21:12,337 --> 00:21:17,207 but just as determined to continue their service to 412 00:21:17,209 --> 00:21:18,609 the American people. 413 00:21:18,610 --> 00:21:21,950 And that service demands that they focus on their 414 00:21:21,947 --> 00:21:24,817 institutional responsibility to ensure a smooth 415 00:21:24,816 --> 00:21:28,686 transition to the next President. 416 00:21:28,687 --> 00:21:30,257 The President doesn't get to choose his successor; the 417 00:21:30,255 --> 00:21:32,995 American people do. 418 00:21:32,991 --> 00:21:38,761 And his responsibility to the American people and his 419 00:21:38,764 --> 00:21:42,504 responsibility to this democracy supersedes his own 420 00:21:42,501 --> 00:21:45,771 personal views, even on really important issues. 421 00:21:48,306 --> 00:21:51,146 And that's why the President has given clear direction to 422 00:21:51,143 --> 00:21:53,743 his team -- and these are directions that he actually 423 00:21:53,745 --> 00:21:56,615 gave at the beginning of this year -- to ensure that 424 00:21:56,615 --> 00:21:59,685 regardless of the outcome, that his team, that this 425 00:21:59,685 --> 00:22:05,755 White House was prepared to give the next 426 00:22:05,757 --> 00:22:06,827 President a running start. 427 00:22:09,327 --> 00:22:14,737 And President Obama is rooting for President-elect 428 00:22:14,733 --> 00:22:19,903 Trump's success in uniting and leading the country. 429 00:22:19,905 --> 00:22:24,205 It doesn't mean that he agrees with everything that 430 00:22:24,209 --> 00:22:26,549 President-elect Trump has promised to pursue. 431 00:22:26,545 --> 00:22:30,115 In fact, as he noted in the Rose Garden, and rather 432 00:22:30,115 --> 00:22:32,655 colorfully across the country at campaign events 433 00:22:32,651 --> 00:22:36,851 over the last few weeks, he's deeply concerned about 434 00:22:36,855 --> 00:22:39,855 some of the priorities that Mr. Trump laid out in the 435 00:22:39,858 --> 00:22:41,798 context of the campaign. 436 00:22:41,793 --> 00:22:44,063 But the demands of our democracy apply to 437 00:22:44,062 --> 00:22:45,162 everybody, including the President of 438 00:22:45,163 --> 00:22:46,503 the United States. 439 00:22:46,498 --> 00:22:49,098 And our democracy's success depends on a smooth 440 00:22:49,101 --> 00:22:52,041 transition of power, and that's a responsibility that 441 00:22:52,037 --> 00:22:53,637 President Obama and everybody here at the White 442 00:22:53,638 --> 00:22:57,438 House takes quite seriously. Isaac. 443 00:22:57,442 --> 00:22:58,912 The Press: The President, campaigning against Donald 444 00:22:58,910 --> 00:23:01,650 Trump, spoke often about the existential threat that he 445 00:23:01,646 --> 00:23:04,546 thought that a Trump presidency would pose. 446 00:23:04,549 --> 00:23:06,449 Is he concerned for the future of the country and 447 00:23:06,451 --> 00:23:08,391 the future of the world, given that Donald Trump has 448 00:23:08,386 --> 00:23:10,286 been elected President? 449 00:23:10,288 --> 00:23:14,758 Mr. Earnest: Well, Isaac, the President had used 450 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:20,200 forceful language in helping people understand exactly 451 00:23:20,198 --> 00:23:22,238 why he was so passionate in his 452 00:23:22,234 --> 00:23:23,304 support for Secretary Clinton. 453 00:23:25,637 --> 00:23:31,007 And those are authentic views that haven't changed. 454 00:23:31,009 --> 00:23:32,379 That's not just rhetoric. 455 00:23:32,377 --> 00:23:35,117 Those aren't just slogans. 456 00:23:35,113 --> 00:23:39,883 Those represent the President's actual views and 457 00:23:39,885 --> 00:23:46,425 preferences about the direction that he'd like to 458 00:23:46,858 --> 00:23:51,328 see the country go. 459 00:23:51,329 --> 00:23:56,339 But that's not what the American people voted for. 460 00:23:56,334 --> 00:23:58,074 The Press: Does he believe that nuclear war is more of 461 00:23:58,069 --> 00:24:00,209 a possibility now? 462 00:24:00,205 --> 00:24:03,175 Mr. Earnest: Well, listen, I'm not going to speculate 463 00:24:03,175 --> 00:24:06,215 on what sort of actions President-elect Trump may 464 00:24:06,211 --> 00:24:08,681 choose to prioritize or pursue. 465 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,120 Obviously, he and his team are going to spend the next 466 00:24:11,116 --> 00:24:17,286 73 days or so preparing themselves to lead the 467 00:24:17,289 --> 00:24:20,129 greatest country in the world. 468 00:24:20,125 --> 00:24:27,795 And part of what makes this country so extraordinary and 469 00:24:28,166 --> 00:24:35,136 so exceptional is that the United States has the 470 00:24:35,507 --> 00:24:38,247 greatest fighting force that the world has ever known. 471 00:24:38,243 --> 00:24:40,583 And that's not just a testament to our 472 00:24:40,579 --> 00:24:44,719 technological superiority; it's a testament to the 473 00:24:45,250 --> 00:24:53,490 brave and selfless Americans who are prepared to put 474 00:24:53,491 --> 00:24:56,231 their lives on the line to fight for this country. 475 00:24:56,228 --> 00:24:58,598 That's what makes our military so great. 476 00:24:58,597 --> 00:25:02,367 We've also got a federal workforce, people who 477 00:25:02,367 --> 00:25:05,337 dedicate their lives to serving the public, that 478 00:25:05,337 --> 00:25:09,377 ensure that our air and water is clean, that ensure 479 00:25:09,374 --> 00:25:11,744 that even the youngest Americans can get access to 480 00:25:11,743 --> 00:25:14,783 a quality education, that are working hard to make 481 00:25:14,779 --> 00:25:18,049 sure that the American people who don't have access 482 00:25:18,049 --> 00:25:20,789 to health care can purchase it. 483 00:25:20,785 --> 00:25:26,425 These are talented, committed Americans who, 484 00:25:26,424 --> 00:25:31,064 after working to ensure the success of President Obama, 485 00:25:31,062 --> 00:25:34,832 will be just as passionate about ensuring the success 486 00:25:34,833 --> 00:25:35,863 of President Trump. 487 00:25:35,867 --> 00:25:37,967 They don't do that because either President necessarily 488 00:25:37,969 --> 00:25:41,239 reflects their personal political views; they pursue 489 00:25:41,239 --> 00:25:43,579 that work because they care deeply about serving this 490 00:25:43,575 --> 00:25:45,045 country, and they care deeply about the 491 00:25:45,043 --> 00:25:47,213 success of this country. 492 00:25:47,212 --> 00:25:51,922 And, in some ways, I think that's something that most 493 00:25:51,917 --> 00:25:54,587 people -- that's difficult to appreciate until you've 494 00:25:54,586 --> 00:25:56,786 had the opportunity to spend some time working in the 495 00:25:56,788 --> 00:25:59,558 federal government, and you see the people around you 496 00:25:59,557 --> 00:26:08,667 who don't get a lot of public glory, they don't get 497 00:26:09,167 --> 00:26:15,777 particularly large paychecks, but they feel a 498 00:26:16,141 --> 00:26:18,541 calling to serve. 499 00:26:18,543 --> 00:26:23,813 And President Obama often describes the U.S. 500 00:26:23,815 --> 00:26:30,255 government as the largest and most impactful 501 00:26:31,189 --> 00:26:33,589 organization in the world. 502 00:26:33,591 --> 00:26:40,001 And that is the organization that President-elect Trump 503 00:26:39,998 --> 00:26:41,568 will lead for the next four years. 504 00:26:41,566 --> 00:26:43,636 The Press: Josh, not 48 hours ago, the President, in 505 00:26:43,635 --> 00:26:46,635 Philadelphia, warned of giving Donald 506 00:26:46,638 --> 00:26:48,538 Trump the nuclear codes. 507 00:26:48,540 --> 00:26:50,680 Is he concerned that Donald Trump now, as 508 00:26:50,675 --> 00:26:53,975 President-elect, will be getting the nuclear codes? 509 00:26:53,979 --> 00:26:55,749 Mr. Earnest: Isaac, what I can tell you is that the 510 00:26:56,147 --> 00:26:57,787 election is over and it's been decided. 511 00:26:57,782 --> 00:26:59,552 The American people have decided. 512 00:26:59,551 --> 00:27:01,291 President Obama doesn't get to choose his successor; the 513 00:27:01,286 --> 00:27:03,686 American people do that. 514 00:27:03,688 --> 00:27:07,728 And they've chosen somebody that President Obama 515 00:27:07,726 --> 00:27:11,326 disagrees with on a wide range of issues, and those 516 00:27:11,329 --> 00:27:13,329 disagreements in most cases aren't just minor 517 00:27:13,331 --> 00:27:17,631 disagreements, but rather profound disagreements. 518 00:27:17,635 --> 00:27:22,445 But that does not in any way detract from the President's 519 00:27:27,045 --> 00:27:32,015 determination to execute a smooth and effective 520 00:27:36,254 --> 00:27:38,794 transition of power. 521 00:27:38,790 --> 00:27:40,590 That's what or democracy demands. 522 00:27:40,592 --> 00:27:43,592 The success of our democracy depends on it. 523 00:27:43,595 --> 00:27:48,265 And the President is certainly determined to live 524 00:27:48,266 --> 00:27:51,166 up to the very high standard that was set by President 525 00:27:51,169 --> 00:27:52,709 Bush eight years ago. 526 00:27:52,704 --> 00:27:53,474 The Press: One last one. 527 00:27:53,471 --> 00:27:55,371 Is the President still doing the foreign trip 528 00:27:55,373 --> 00:27:56,673 that was scheduled? 529 00:27:56,674 --> 00:27:57,374 Mr. Earnest: Yes. 530 00:27:57,375 --> 00:28:00,145 I do not anticipate any changes to the President's 531 00:28:00,145 --> 00:28:02,685 foreign travel next week. Jordan. 532 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,150 The Press: Thanks, Josh. 533 00:28:04,149 --> 00:28:08,089 Donald Trump, during the campaign, pledged to jail 534 00:28:08,086 --> 00:28:11,456 Hillary Clinton, if she was elected, over the federal 535 00:28:11,456 --> 00:28:13,996 investigations that were underway. 536 00:28:13,992 --> 00:28:16,792 Some legal experts have said that President Obama could 537 00:28:16,795 --> 00:28:18,265 close off that opportunity if he 538 00:28:18,263 --> 00:28:20,303 pardons Hillary Clinton. 539 00:28:20,298 --> 00:28:21,668 Is that something that the President 540 00:28:21,666 --> 00:28:23,236 is considering doing? 541 00:28:23,234 --> 00:28:26,474 Mr. Earnest: Well, Jordan, as you know, the President 542 00:28:26,471 --> 00:28:32,411 has offered clemency to a substantial number of 543 00:28:32,410 --> 00:28:39,920 Americans who were previously serving time in 544 00:28:39,918 --> 00:28:44,828 federal prisons, and we didn't talk in advance about 545 00:28:44,823 --> 00:28:47,293 the President's plans to offer clemency to any of 546 00:28:47,292 --> 00:28:48,962 those individuals. 547 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,500 And it's because we don't talk about the President's 548 00:28:51,496 --> 00:28:54,566 thinking, particularly with respect to any specific 549 00:28:54,566 --> 00:28:59,536 cases that may apply to pardons or commutations. 550 00:29:04,042 --> 00:29:06,212 What I would direct your attention to, though, is the 551 00:29:09,180 --> 00:29:13,150 President's observation that he made in the Rose Garden 552 00:29:15,787 --> 00:29:20,627 about the tone that President-elect Trump 553 00:29:24,262 --> 00:29:27,802 displayed in his remarks last night. 554 00:29:27,799 --> 00:29:32,539 And that tone is consistent with the longstanding 555 00:29:32,537 --> 00:29:37,807 traditions of our democracy. 556 00:29:37,809 --> 00:29:40,709 And the President expressed hope that that kind of 557 00:29:40,712 --> 00:29:44,082 tone would continue. 558 00:29:44,082 --> 00:29:47,852 That's relevant because we've got a long tradition 559 00:29:47,852 --> 00:29:54,262 in this country of not -- of people in power not using 560 00:29:54,259 --> 00:29:58,929 the criminal justice system to exact political revenge. 561 00:29:58,930 --> 00:30:03,940 In fact, we go to great lengths to insulate our 562 00:30:03,935 --> 00:30:07,235 criminal justice system from partisan politics. 563 00:30:07,238 --> 00:30:11,908 And that commitment has served our country very well 564 00:30:11,910 --> 00:30:15,280 for more than two centuries, and the President is hopeful 565 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:16,280 that it will continue. 566 00:30:16,281 --> 00:30:18,281 The Press: Is he confident that it will 567 00:30:18,283 --> 00:30:20,123 continue, or just hopeful? 568 00:30:20,118 --> 00:30:21,718 Did he have a chance to talk about those issues with 569 00:30:21,719 --> 00:30:22,889 President-elect Trump? 570 00:30:22,887 --> 00:30:25,387 Mr. Earnest: I'm not going to speculate about any -- 571 00:30:25,390 --> 00:30:27,530 about steps that President-elect Trump may 572 00:30:27,525 --> 00:30:29,865 choose to take. 573 00:30:29,861 --> 00:30:33,201 But the President expressed some optimism about the tone 574 00:30:33,198 --> 00:30:36,238 that President-elect Trump used when the eyes of the 575 00:30:36,234 --> 00:30:40,004 world were on him, when he spoke last night as the 576 00:30:40,004 --> 00:30:42,874 President-elect for the very first time. 577 00:30:42,874 --> 00:30:44,874 That was a momentous occasion, and his 578 00:30:44,876 --> 00:30:45,876 tone was notable. 579 00:30:45,877 --> 00:30:51,287 And hopefully it will continue in a way that is 580 00:30:51,282 --> 00:30:54,982 consistent with the kind of longstanding traditions and 581 00:30:54,986 --> 00:30:59,326 laws that have served a variety of Presidents in 582 00:30:59,324 --> 00:30:59,954 both parties very 583 00:30:59,958 --> 00:31:04,128 well for 240 years. Chris. 584 00:31:04,128 --> 00:31:04,898 The Press: Thanks, Josh. 585 00:31:04,896 --> 00:31:08,066 So, understanding that the President would not look 586 00:31:08,066 --> 00:31:11,506 kindly on any kind of pursuit of prosecution 587 00:31:11,502 --> 00:31:13,802 against Hillary Clinton, would you expect or is it 588 00:31:13,805 --> 00:31:17,145 possible that he would ask for assurances from Donald 589 00:31:17,141 --> 00:31:19,081 Trump that that was not going to happen? 590 00:31:19,077 --> 00:31:22,117 Mr. Earnest: Well, I don't have anything to preview in 591 00:31:22,113 --> 00:31:23,553 terms of their conversation. 592 00:31:23,548 --> 00:31:25,548 We'll try and get you a readout after that 593 00:31:25,550 --> 00:31:27,890 conversation occurs tomorrow, but I don't have 594 00:31:27,885 --> 00:31:28,555 any preview to offer at this point. 595 00:31:28,553 --> 00:31:30,023 The Press: Other than sort of the nuts and bolts of a 596 00:31:30,021 --> 00:31:31,761 transition, can you give us any insights into what the 597 00:31:31,756 --> 00:31:34,696 President's priorities are tomorrow? 598 00:31:34,692 --> 00:31:35,732 Mr. Earnest: Well, I think the President's priorities 599 00:31:35,727 --> 00:31:39,567 tomorrow are to sit down with the President-elect and 600 00:31:39,564 --> 00:31:42,504 make clear that this administration's top 601 00:31:42,500 --> 00:31:45,600 priority for the next 73 days will be ensuring that 602 00:31:45,603 --> 00:31:49,543 the next President can get off to a running start. 603 00:31:49,540 --> 00:31:52,340 Look, this is not new. 604 00:31:52,343 --> 00:31:55,383 This is actually the third time in a row that a 605 00:31:55,380 --> 00:32:01,350 two-term President will be succeeded by a President for 606 00:32:01,352 --> 00:32:06,462 the other party who ran vowing to roll back key 607 00:32:06,457 --> 00:32:09,257 aspects of the incumbent President's agenda. 608 00:32:09,260 --> 00:32:13,560 So in 2000, you had then-Governor George W. 609 00:32:13,564 --> 00:32:17,774 Bush vowing to roll back the agenda of incumbent 610 00:32:17,769 --> 00:32:19,099 President Clinton. 611 00:32:19,103 --> 00:32:22,643 Fast-forward eight years, you had then-Senator Barack 612 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,740 Obama running for President, successfully, vowing to roll 613 00:32:26,744 --> 00:32:32,184 back aspects of then-President Bush's agenda. 614 00:32:32,183 --> 00:32:36,123 And here we are, eight years later, facing a situation 615 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:40,630 where the American people have elected a Republican -- 616 00:32:40,625 --> 00:32:42,995 President-elect Trump -- who ran on a platform of vowing 617 00:32:42,994 --> 00:32:46,794 to roll back key aspects of President Obama's agenda. 618 00:32:46,798 --> 00:32:49,138 But in each case, despite those vigorous 619 00:32:49,133 --> 00:32:51,633 disagreements, there was a commitment to the peaceful 620 00:32:51,636 --> 00:32:55,176 transfer of power that served the American people 621 00:32:55,173 --> 00:32:57,073 and our democracy very well. 622 00:32:57,075 --> 00:32:58,575 And President Obama continues to be committed 623 00:32:58,576 --> 00:32:59,476 to that principle. 624 00:32:59,477 --> 00:33:01,047 The Press: There does s to be a commitment, though, 625 00:33:01,045 --> 00:33:02,945 both on Donald Trump and many of his Republican 626 00:33:02,947 --> 00:33:08,657 supporters' side to get rid of the immigration reform 627 00:33:08,653 --> 00:33:10,953 that the President has put in the place, to get rid of 628 00:33:10,955 --> 00:33:15,525 the ACA, to go after the climate change agreement. 629 00:33:15,526 --> 00:33:18,696 So I know you said that you're going to pursue those 630 00:33:18,696 --> 00:33:24,036 policies accordingly, but was anything done in advance 631 00:33:24,035 --> 00:33:26,235 with the possibility, knowing that Donald Trump 632 00:33:26,237 --> 00:33:28,807 could be elected President -- were people looking at 633 00:33:28,806 --> 00:33:33,816 what could be done at all to, from your perspective, 634 00:33:33,811 --> 00:33:36,811 safeguard these things, move forward on these things, try 635 00:33:36,814 --> 00:33:39,514 to prevent, for example, the ACA from being repealed? 636 00:33:39,517 --> 00:33:42,857 Mr. Earnest: At each stage, since each of these policies 637 00:33:42,854 --> 00:33:44,924 was pursued, this administration has worked 638 00:33:44,922 --> 00:33:48,492 diligently to implement them as effectively and 639 00:33:48,493 --> 00:33:50,493 successfully as possible with an eye 640 00:33:50,495 --> 00:33:51,725 toward the long term. 641 00:33:51,729 --> 00:33:56,299 None of these policies that we've been pursuing were 642 00:33:56,300 --> 00:33:58,770 considered a stop-gap measure or 643 00:33:58,770 --> 00:34:01,970 somehow temporary in nature. 644 00:34:01,973 --> 00:34:03,973 The President pursued these policies because of the 645 00:34:03,975 --> 00:34:05,975 long-term benefits they have for the American people. 646 00:34:05,977 --> 00:34:09,117 And consistent with that view, we have worked very 647 00:34:09,113 --> 00:34:13,853 hard to implement them so that they'll be durable. 648 00:34:13,851 --> 00:34:17,721 And look, when it comes to the ACA, the ACA has 649 00:34:17,722 --> 00:34:20,262 withstood some significant challenges from 650 00:34:20,258 --> 00:34:21,628 Republicans in the past. 651 00:34:21,626 --> 00:34:23,626 We've had two Supreme Court cases. 652 00:34:23,628 --> 00:34:25,168 We've had 50 repeal votes. 653 00:34:25,163 --> 00:34:28,003 And in the face of all of that, the Affordable Care 654 00:34:27,999 --> 00:34:32,339 Act is still limiting the growth on health care costs, 655 00:34:32,336 --> 00:34:34,806 expanding access to health care coverage, providing 656 00:34:34,806 --> 00:34:38,206 consumer protections that guarantee some peace of mind 657 00:34:38,209 --> 00:34:41,049 for millions of Americans. 658 00:34:41,045 --> 00:34:45,115 Is it at risk again because the President-elect is 659 00:34:45,116 --> 00:34:47,216 vowing to repeal it? 660 00:34:47,218 --> 00:34:48,218 Yeah, it is again. 661 00:34:48,219 --> 00:34:50,819 But we've withstood some difficult challenges. 662 00:34:50,822 --> 00:34:53,622 That law has withstood some difficult challenges. 663 00:34:53,624 --> 00:34:55,624 And we'll see what the future holds. 664 00:34:55,626 --> 00:34:58,166 A lot of that will be up to the President-elect, but I 665 00:34:58,162 --> 00:35:01,702 think what we have found is that much of that will also 666 00:35:01,699 --> 00:35:04,639 require some kind of cooperation from Congress. 667 00:35:04,635 --> 00:35:09,275 And Republicans did hold onto majorities in both the 668 00:35:09,273 --> 00:35:15,283 House and the Senate, but they don't have 60 votes in 669 00:35:15,279 --> 00:35:19,689 the Senate, so it's going to require some bipartisanship 670 00:35:19,684 --> 00:35:22,484 in the Senate to advance some of this legislation. 671 00:35:22,487 --> 00:35:28,497 And the House of Representatives over the 672 00:35:28,493 --> 00:35:30,533 last couple of years has not exactly been the 673 00:35:33,998 --> 00:35:38,838 model of organization. 674 00:35:38,836 --> 00:35:41,536 That's an unruly place. 675 00:35:41,539 --> 00:35:44,639 And even people -- even members on the Republican 676 00:35:44,642 --> 00:35:49,212 side of the aisle have some deeply held and divergent 677 00:35:49,213 --> 00:35:51,453 views about the kinds of policies 678 00:35:51,449 --> 00:35:52,649 they should be pursuing. 679 00:35:52,650 --> 00:35:56,550 So this is not going to be easy. 680 00:35:56,554 --> 00:36:02,494 But the bottom line is, everybody here at the White 681 00:36:02,493 --> 00:36:07,063 House is rooting for the success of President-elect 682 00:36:07,064 --> 00:36:09,804 Trump in his effort to unite and lead the country. 683 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:10,900 The Press: And if I could just ask you finally on that 684 00:36:10,902 --> 00:36:12,272 point, that obviously there's a lot of 685 00:36:12,270 --> 00:36:13,910 emotion involved here. 686 00:36:13,905 --> 00:36:16,075 There's a lot of people who worked on Hillary Clinton's 687 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,410 campaign who are very well-known, and worked 688 00:36:19,410 --> 00:36:21,480 side-by-side here in the White House with 689 00:36:21,479 --> 00:36:23,519 the folks here. 690 00:36:23,514 --> 00:36:25,954 I think they believed, as the President does, that his 691 00:36:25,950 --> 00:36:27,620 legacy was at stake here. 692 00:36:27,618 --> 00:36:29,988 Can you give us a little insight into who the 693 00:36:29,987 --> 00:36:32,227 President spoke to this morning? 694 00:36:32,223 --> 00:36:34,293 Did he talk to the staff in general? 695 00:36:34,292 --> 00:36:35,932 Did he talk to small groups of people? 696 00:36:35,927 --> 00:36:38,727 And what was his overall message besides what we 697 00:36:38,729 --> 00:36:41,799 heard in the Rose Garden today? 698 00:36:41,799 --> 00:36:43,569 Mr. Earnest: The President has on a number of occasions 699 00:36:43,568 --> 00:36:46,908 now had an opportunity to address small 700 00:36:46,904 --> 00:36:48,904 groups of the staff. 701 00:36:48,906 --> 00:36:51,446 And the message that he's delivered to them in private 702 00:36:51,442 --> 00:36:54,042 is entirely consistent with the message that he 703 00:36:54,045 --> 00:36:56,385 delivered in the Rose Garden, with some special 704 00:36:56,380 --> 00:36:58,220 emphasis on the need for young 705 00:36:58,215 --> 00:37:00,255 people to remain engaged. 706 00:37:00,251 --> 00:37:01,651 Christi, you spent enough time around this White House 707 00:37:01,652 --> 00:37:04,692 now to know that a lot of the people who have spent 708 00:37:04,689 --> 00:37:08,859 the last two or three years here working at this White 709 00:37:08,859 --> 00:37:11,829 House are pretty young, and they've got -- if they 710 00:37:11,829 --> 00:37:15,169 choose to pursue it -- a bright future in politics. 711 00:37:15,166 --> 00:37:18,066 And President Obama wanted to deliver to them a very 712 00:37:18,069 --> 00:37:22,339 personal message that they should not be discouraged, 713 00:37:22,340 --> 00:37:27,710 that it's easy to sit back and by cynical, but, as you 714 00:37:27,712 --> 00:37:31,252 heard him say so many times on the campaign trail, he's 715 00:37:31,248 --> 00:37:33,518 going to choose hope, and he's hoping they'll choose 716 00:37:33,517 --> 00:37:38,127 hope, as well, even in the aftermath of 717 00:37:38,122 --> 00:37:43,232 a disappointing outcome. 718 00:37:43,227 --> 00:37:45,567 Even as I've been talking to my staff today, the other 719 00:37:45,563 --> 00:37:50,703 observation that I have made is that I've heard people 720 00:37:50,701 --> 00:37:55,511 often say that adversity builds character. 721 00:37:55,506 --> 00:37:57,476 I'm not sure that's true. 722 00:37:57,475 --> 00:38:00,275 I think adversity reveals character. 723 00:38:00,277 --> 00:38:03,617 And I think we've seen the kind of character that 724 00:38:03,614 --> 00:38:07,384 Secretary Clinton and Senator Kaine and President 725 00:38:07,385 --> 00:38:10,125 Obama are made of. 726 00:38:10,121 --> 00:38:15,491 And their example serves as an inspiration to me about 727 00:38:15,493 --> 00:38:18,193 the kind of character that I hope, even in this difficult 728 00:38:18,195 --> 00:38:21,195 time, that I can show. 729 00:38:21,198 --> 00:38:23,198 And I know I'm not the only staffer here at the White 730 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,800 House who feels that way. Kevin. 731 00:38:25,803 --> 00:38:27,343 The Press: Can I ask you about Merrick Garland? 732 00:38:27,338 --> 00:38:29,908 Now that there won't be sort of the lame duck that I 733 00:38:29,907 --> 00:38:32,647 think many people predicted, what happens to his 734 00:38:32,643 --> 00:38:33,913 potential nomination? 735 00:38:33,911 --> 00:38:36,811 Has the President reached out to him at all? 736 00:38:36,814 --> 00:38:39,184 Mr. Earnest: I don't know that President Obama has had 737 00:38:39,183 --> 00:38:42,353 an opportunity to speak with Chief Judge Garland today. 738 00:38:42,353 --> 00:38:44,093 The truth is our view of this 739 00:38:44,088 --> 00:38:46,288 situation has not changed. 740 00:38:46,290 --> 00:38:50,960 It's deeply discouraging how unfairly he has been treated 741 00:38:50,961 --> 00:38:53,401 by Republicans in the United States Senate who abdicated 742 00:38:53,397 --> 00:38:56,197 their basic responsibility to give him a hearing and 743 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:57,100 a timely vote. 744 00:39:00,838 --> 00:39:04,638 So we'll have to see what happens moving forward. 745 00:39:04,642 --> 00:39:07,042 But I can tell you that the intensity of the case that 746 00:39:07,044 --> 00:39:11,314 we will make in support of a candidate that has more 747 00:39:11,315 --> 00:39:13,615 experience on the federal bench than any other Supreme 748 00:39:13,617 --> 00:39:16,117 Court nominee in history, in support of a candidate that 749 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,890 even Republicans acknowledge is somebody with a brilliant 750 00:39:19,890 --> 00:39:23,430 legal mind and somebody who represents the kind of 751 00:39:23,427 --> 00:39:28,837 consensus nominee that Republicans claimed they 752 00:39:28,833 --> 00:39:30,733 were hoping that President Obama would appoint. 753 00:39:33,704 --> 00:39:36,274 So the outcome of this election certainly doesn't 754 00:39:36,273 --> 00:39:41,013 change the case that we will make about the necessity of 755 00:39:41,011 --> 00:39:44,981 the Congress considering his nomination, even though he's 756 00:39:44,982 --> 00:39:46,982 been waiting more than 200 days now. 757 00:39:46,984 --> 00:39:48,984 The Press: Let me ask you, though, about the 758 00:39:48,986 --> 00:39:49,986 outcome of the election. 759 00:39:49,987 --> 00:39:52,227 I know it's been less than 24 hours, but as a guy who 760 00:39:52,223 --> 00:39:55,663 lived in Missouri, went to school in Texas, worked in 761 00:39:55,659 --> 00:39:57,899 Florida, you've been around parts of the country -- that 762 00:39:57,895 --> 00:40:00,735 obviously the Trump message resonated with the 763 00:40:00,731 --> 00:40:02,171 majority of the voters. 764 00:40:02,166 --> 00:40:06,436 What happened last night as best can you tell? 765 00:40:06,437 --> 00:40:10,107 And did you have to practice saying "President-elect 766 00:40:10,107 --> 00:40:11,377 Trump" -- President-elect Trump? 767 00:40:11,375 --> 00:40:12,715 Did you practice that? 768 00:40:12,710 --> 00:40:14,150 Mr. Earnest: Well, you may be able to tell it doesn't 769 00:40:14,145 --> 00:40:15,615 come naturally. 770 00:40:15,613 --> 00:40:16,243 The Press: No, it does not. 771 00:40:16,247 --> 00:40:17,947 (Laughter.) 772 00:40:17,948 --> 00:40:19,948 Mr. Earnest: But it's what the job requires, it's what our 773 00:40:19,950 --> 00:40:21,550 democracy requires, and it's what the American 774 00:40:21,552 --> 00:40:27,692 people expect. So I undertook the necessary 775 00:40:27,691 --> 00:40:29,361 preparation to try to deliver it as smoothly as I 776 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:40,000 possibly could and with as much respect as 777 00:40:40,004 --> 00:40:40,904 I possibly could. Look, in terms of the 778 00:40:40,905 --> 00:40:42,175 results across the country, 779 00:40:42,173 --> 00:40:44,473 it's really hard to say. 780 00:40:44,475 --> 00:40:45,305 The Press: But you've been in those places. 781 00:40:45,309 --> 00:40:46,579 Mr. Earnest: Yes. 782 00:40:46,577 --> 00:40:48,047 The Press: You kind of have a -- you understand what the 783 00:40:48,045 --> 00:40:49,045 Missouri voter is like. 784 00:40:49,046 --> 00:40:51,486 You know what the Texas voter is like. 785 00:40:51,482 --> 00:40:53,952 You know what the Floridian is really like. 786 00:40:53,951 --> 00:40:56,021 And I'm just trying to figure out -- and again, 787 00:40:56,020 --> 00:40:59,260 granted, brevity of time won't give us sort of a full 788 00:40:59,256 --> 00:41:02,356 picture -- but can you understand why that message 789 00:41:02,359 --> 00:41:04,529 seemed to resonate with them at all? 790 00:41:04,528 --> 00:41:07,628 Mr. Earnest: Well, look, let me give you one example of a 791 00:41:07,631 --> 00:41:10,471 race that I followed closely in Missouri, in my home 792 00:41:10,467 --> 00:41:14,167 state of Missouri -- a fellow Kansas Citian by the 793 00:41:14,171 --> 00:41:17,271 name of Jason Kander ran for the United States Senate. 794 00:41:17,274 --> 00:41:19,474 He was a Democratic candidate. 795 00:41:19,476 --> 00:41:22,446 He had already won statewide in the state of Missouri 796 00:41:22,446 --> 00:41:27,186 previously when he served as Secretary of State, and he 797 00:41:27,184 --> 00:41:30,424 was widely praised for 798 00:41:30,421 --> 00:41:35,091 running a smart, tough campaign. 799 00:41:35,092 --> 00:41:40,102 And he was dogged, tireless in going door-to-door and 800 00:41:43,467 --> 00:41:47,737 making a case to people that, frankly, he 801 00:41:47,738 --> 00:41:50,608 anticipated and a lot of people anticipated would get 802 00:41:50,608 --> 00:41:56,348 the support of a lot of Missouri voters who weren't 803 00:41:56,347 --> 00:41:59,547 traditionally Democratic voters. 804 00:41:59,550 --> 00:42:03,020 And the thing that's hard to square about this election 805 00:42:03,020 --> 00:42:05,460 is -- I think the easy thing to say would be that Donald 806 00:42:05,456 --> 00:42:11,326 Trump performed so well in Missouri because voters in 807 00:42:11,328 --> 00:42:13,968 Missouri were pretty unhappy with what's going on in 808 00:42:13,964 --> 00:42:14,964 Washington, D.C. 809 00:42:14,965 --> 00:42:16,935 They're dissatisfied with the dysfunction. 810 00:42:16,934 --> 00:42:23,004 They're not seeing the kind of results from their 811 00:42:23,007 --> 00:42:26,107 elected representatives in Washington, D.C. that they 812 00:42:26,110 --> 00:42:28,110 would like to see, and they're sending a message by 813 00:42:28,112 --> 00:42:30,912 choosing somebody like President Trump to enter the 814 00:42:30,915 --> 00:42:34,785 White House and shake things up and make some changes. 815 00:42:34,785 --> 00:42:38,385 But at the same time, a majority of Missouri voters 816 00:42:38,389 --> 00:42:43,399 also support Senator Blunt, who is somebody who is the 817 00:42:45,396 --> 00:42:48,296 -- spent a lot of time in Washington and spent time 818 00:42:48,299 --> 00:42:49,469 representing the people of Missouri in the United 819 00:42:49,466 --> 00:42:53,936 States House of Representatives, and has 820 00:42:53,938 --> 00:42:56,238 done the same thing in the United States Senate. 821 00:42:56,240 --> 00:42:58,580 So that would be -- it would appear that there's a bit of 822 00:42:58,575 --> 00:42:59,575 a mixed message there. 823 00:42:59,576 --> 00:43:04,616 And I think part of the optimism around Mr. Kander's 824 00:43:04,615 --> 00:43:08,755 campaign was around the idea that he could benefit from 825 00:43:08,752 --> 00:43:15,162 the same kind of anti-incumbent energy that 826 00:43:15,159 --> 00:43:19,399 was obviously propelling Mr. Trump's campaign. 827 00:43:19,396 --> 00:43:21,966 But that's not the way it turned out. 828 00:43:21,966 --> 00:43:25,966 It turned out that people apparently -- I haven't 829 00:43:25,970 --> 00:43:28,470 looked carefully at the results, but it certainly 830 00:43:28,472 --> 00:43:31,442 looks like you had a situation where people were 831 00:43:31,442 --> 00:43:34,312 motivated by their party identification and the party 832 00:43:34,311 --> 00:43:36,981 identification of the candidates more so than they 833 00:43:36,981 --> 00:43:41,991 were this sort of outsider, anti-establishment energy. 834 00:43:46,190 --> 00:43:49,260 So I think in some ways that is a pretty good 835 00:43:49,259 --> 00:43:55,229 illustration of the complexity of discerning the 836 00:43:55,232 --> 00:43:58,472 motivation of voters across the country. 837 00:43:58,469 --> 00:44:02,839 But, listen, voters sent an important message, and it's 838 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,340 important for people who are going to serve in the next 839 00:44:05,342 --> 00:44:07,482 administration and people who are going to serve in 840 00:44:07,478 --> 00:44:09,618 the next Congress, both in the House and the Senate, to 841 00:44:09,613 --> 00:44:11,613 spend some time thinking about what that message was, 842 00:44:11,615 --> 00:44:14,315 because it was a forceful one. 843 00:44:17,454 --> 00:44:19,424 And the American people are going to be expecting 844 00:44:19,423 --> 00:44:23,163 results, and what those results are is something 845 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,400 that representatives in both parties are going to have to 846 00:44:25,396 --> 00:44:28,636 spend some time thinking about. Margaret. 847 00:44:28,632 --> 00:44:31,002 The Press: Josh, President campaigned so 848 00:44:31,001 --> 00:44:34,971 vigorously for Hillary Clinton on the trail, 849 00:44:34,972 --> 00:44:36,942 working this so hard. 850 00:44:36,940 --> 00:44:39,440 I know you can't read sentiment this early on, 851 00:44:39,443 --> 00:44:43,113 truly, and discern what the message was, but can you at 852 00:44:43,113 --> 00:44:46,383 least say why you think the White House's own internal 853 00:44:46,383 --> 00:44:50,853 predictions and readings were so wrong? 854 00:44:50,854 --> 00:44:54,124 Mr. Earnest: Well, listen, it's not just our read of 855 00:44:54,124 --> 00:44:56,364 this that was wrong. 856 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,130 Just about every public poll that we saw was wrong. 857 00:44:59,129 --> 00:45:00,669 You guys will check me on this because you guys follow 858 00:45:00,664 --> 00:45:02,464 this a little bit more closely than I did -- I'm 859 00:45:02,466 --> 00:45:07,336 not aware that any candidate campaigned in Wisconsin. 860 00:45:07,337 --> 00:45:11,337 And I think that's a clear indication that everybody, 861 00:45:11,341 --> 00:45:13,641 including both candidates, expected Secretary Clinton 862 00:45:13,644 --> 00:45:15,244 to win Wisconsin. 863 00:45:15,245 --> 00:45:16,745 And she didn't. 864 00:45:16,747 --> 00:45:23,087 And it's not close enough that anybody is calling for 865 00:45:23,087 --> 00:45:24,957 a recount. 866 00:45:24,955 --> 00:45:30,765 So it is clear that nobody got the outcome that they 867 00:45:30,761 --> 00:45:32,761 expected last night. 868 00:45:34,398 --> 00:45:39,268 Now, does that mean that the polling industry has now 869 00:45:39,269 --> 00:45:42,969 been officially disrupted, or that political 870 00:45:42,973 --> 00:45:44,973 consultants are going to have to change the way they 871 00:45:44,975 --> 00:45:47,215 do business? Maybe. 872 00:45:47,211 --> 00:45:49,681 And that would be something interesting for them to 873 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,680 consider over the next couple of years. 874 00:45:51,682 --> 00:45:55,182 But I think it's just hard to tell exactly what the 875 00:45:55,185 --> 00:45:59,795 message was -- what the message from voters is. 876 00:45:59,790 --> 00:46:02,190 As I mentioned earlier, there are a substantial 877 00:46:02,192 --> 00:46:06,862 number of voters that voted for Barack Obama twice and 878 00:46:06,864 --> 00:46:09,264 then voted for Donald Trump yesterday. 879 00:46:09,266 --> 00:46:15,406 And given the vigorous opposition that 880 00:46:15,405 --> 00:46:18,175 President-elect Trump professed to have for the 881 00:46:18,175 --> 00:46:22,345 Obama agenda, it raises a lot of questions about why 882 00:46:22,346 --> 00:46:24,246 those voters supported him. 883 00:46:24,248 --> 00:46:28,048 And the answer to that is not obvious to me. 884 00:46:28,051 --> 00:46:29,191 Maybe it is to somebody else. 885 00:46:29,186 --> 00:46:35,696 And I suspect that political analysts and academics and 886 00:46:35,692 --> 00:46:40,862 political professionals are going to spend days and 887 00:46:40,864 --> 00:46:44,204 weeks and months and maybe even years digging into 888 00:46:44,201 --> 00:46:46,141 these results and trying to get greater clarity to 889 00:46:46,136 --> 00:46:49,306 explain the outcome. 890 00:46:49,306 --> 00:46:52,406 The Press: Did this in some way -- I mean, the President 891 00:46:52,409 --> 00:46:55,579 -- you talked about some of the issues, but he used very 892 00:46:55,579 --> 00:46:58,819 stark terms, saying the very future of the Republic in a 893 00:46:58,815 --> 00:47:00,815 way is hinged on this election, that it's a 894 00:47:00,817 --> 00:47:06,087 defense of American values, really laying the stakes in 895 00:47:06,089 --> 00:47:07,929 very stark terms. 896 00:47:07,925 --> 00:47:11,565 So does he still believe that today, that the 897 00:47:11,562 --> 00:47:15,432 viability of the America he believes this country 898 00:47:15,432 --> 00:47:17,702 is, is at stake? 899 00:47:17,701 --> 00:47:22,341 Mr. Earnest: Well, listen, as I mentioned earlier, the 900 00:47:22,339 --> 00:47:24,379 argument that the President was making on the campaign 901 00:47:24,374 --> 00:47:25,814 trail was an authentic one. 902 00:47:25,809 --> 00:47:26,809 It reflected his views. 903 00:47:26,810 --> 00:47:28,150 It wasn't just a slogan; it wasn't just 904 00:47:28,145 --> 00:47:29,475 a bumper sticker. 905 00:47:29,479 --> 00:47:31,979 He was making an argument that he deeply believes 906 00:47:31,982 --> 00:47:35,252 about the direction that he'd like to 907 00:47:35,252 --> 00:47:36,352 see the country go. 908 00:47:36,353 --> 00:47:37,623 The Press: But he doesn't believe democracy 909 00:47:37,621 --> 00:47:38,591 is at risk? 910 00:47:38,589 --> 00:47:42,029 I mean, the future of the Republic -- he said that 911 00:47:42,025 --> 00:47:44,125 repeatedly in North Carolina and elsewhere. 912 00:47:44,127 --> 00:47:48,667 Mr. Earnest: The President made a forceful argument and 913 00:47:48,665 --> 00:47:49,935 he stands by that argument. 914 00:47:49,933 --> 00:47:51,173 But the time for making that argument is past. 915 00:47:51,969 --> 00:47:53,569 The American people rendered their judgment. 916 00:47:53,570 --> 00:47:55,440 And President Obama doesn't get to choose his successor; 917 00:47:55,439 --> 00:47:56,739 the American people do. 918 00:47:56,740 --> 00:47:57,910 And they did. 919 00:47:57,908 --> 00:47:59,138 And they didn't choose the person that 920 00:47:59,142 --> 00:48:01,182 President Obama supported. 921 00:48:01,178 --> 00:48:02,278 And so now the responsibility that 922 00:48:02,279 --> 00:48:07,949 President Obama has is to turn his attention to 923 00:48:07,951 --> 00:48:12,491 prioritizing a smooth transition of his successor 924 00:48:12,489 --> 00:48:16,729 and ensuring a peaceful transition of power. 925 00:48:16,727 --> 00:48:19,667 But, frankly, the President's aspirations are 926 00:48:19,663 --> 00:48:21,463 higher than just a peaceful transition of power. 927 00:48:21,465 --> 00:48:22,965 He wants to make sure that we've got an effective 928 00:48:22,966 --> 00:48:24,306 transition that gives the next President the 929 00:48:24,301 --> 00:48:26,641 opportunity to get a running start. 930 00:48:26,637 --> 00:48:30,837 Because now that the election is over, it's a 931 00:48:30,841 --> 00:48:36,711 good time to remember that we're Americans first and 932 00:48:36,713 --> 00:48:43,453 all of us are rooting for the success of President 933 00:48:43,453 --> 00:48:45,893 Trump as he assumes the awesome responsibility of 934 00:48:45,889 --> 00:48:49,159 trying to unite and lead this country. 935 00:48:49,159 --> 00:48:52,099 The Press: Can you tell us any color around how this 936 00:48:52,095 --> 00:48:52,865 happened last night? 937 00:48:52,863 --> 00:48:57,403 Who informed the President, how he spent his evening? 938 00:48:57,401 --> 00:48:59,841 Mr. Earnest: The President was monitoring returns from 939 00:48:59,836 --> 00:49:04,446 the Residence last night. 940 00:49:04,441 --> 00:49:07,241 I don't have a lot of details to share from there. 941 00:49:07,244 --> 00:49:09,444 Obviously he relied on staff to help coordinate the calls 942 00:49:09,446 --> 00:49:11,616 that he placed last night to Secretary Clinton and to 943 00:49:11,615 --> 00:49:15,015 President-elect Trump respectively. 944 00:49:15,018 --> 00:49:17,018 And he stayed up late in order to do that. 945 00:49:17,421 --> 00:49:19,221 He wasn't able to reach President-elect Trump until 946 00:49:19,623 --> 00:49:23,063 after President-elect Trump had delivered 947 00:49:23,060 --> 00:49:24,060 his remarks last night. 948 00:49:24,061 --> 00:49:28,461 So it was rather late. 949 00:49:28,465 --> 00:49:30,035 But obviously he had to work through staff in order to 950 00:49:32,069 --> 00:49:34,209 make that happen. 951 00:49:34,204 --> 00:49:35,274 The Press: If the President goes on this trip, as you 952 00:49:35,272 --> 00:49:39,442 said -- or you said that schedule is not changing -- 953 00:49:39,443 --> 00:49:44,043 how is he going to explain to his allies what happened? 954 00:49:44,047 --> 00:49:46,547 I mean, the President, on mostly all of his recent 955 00:49:46,550 --> 00:49:49,050 foreign trips, has basically said he's confident that 956 00:49:49,052 --> 00:49:51,552 Hillary Clinton is going to win, none of what just 957 00:49:51,555 --> 00:49:54,125 transpired was going to happen. 958 00:49:54,124 --> 00:49:55,794 What is his message going to be? 959 00:49:55,792 --> 00:49:58,592 And it would seem to be redirecting what was going 960 00:49:58,595 --> 00:50:00,265 to be a farewell visit. 961 00:50:00,263 --> 00:50:04,003 Mr. Earnest: Well, listen, the President spent a lot of 962 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:08,170 time on his foreign travels over the last 12 to 18 963 00:50:08,171 --> 00:50:11,171 months offering reassurance to our partners and allies 964 00:50:11,174 --> 00:50:13,714 around the world about the state of the political 965 00:50:13,710 --> 00:50:16,350 debate in this country and the likely 966 00:50:16,346 --> 00:50:18,616 outcome of the election. 967 00:50:18,615 --> 00:50:22,015 And now that we have an outcome of the election, I 968 00:50:22,018 --> 00:50:24,188 think the President will continue to offer 969 00:50:24,187 --> 00:50:27,387 reassurance to our closest allies and partners about 970 00:50:27,391 --> 00:50:30,591 the steadfast commitment of the United States to the 971 00:50:30,594 --> 00:50:33,864 kinds of alliances and partnerships that advance 972 00:50:33,864 --> 00:50:36,164 our interests and keep our country safe. 973 00:50:36,166 --> 00:50:38,836 Many of our strongest alliances are alliances that 974 00:50:38,835 --> 00:50:41,275 have been fortified by Democratic 975 00:50:41,271 --> 00:50:43,741 and Republican Presidents. 976 00:50:43,740 --> 00:50:48,510 And President Obama obviously invested a lot of 977 00:50:48,512 --> 00:50:52,082 his own time and attention to prioritizing investments 978 00:50:52,082 --> 00:50:54,182 in many of those alliances, particularly 979 00:50:54,184 --> 00:50:56,184 in the Asia Pacific. 980 00:50:56,186 --> 00:51:01,026 And President-elect Trump will chart a foreign policy 981 00:51:01,024 --> 00:51:03,924 path that he believes is in America's best interest. 982 00:51:06,563 --> 00:51:10,263 He will do so after getting the benefit of briefings 983 00:51:10,267 --> 00:51:15,137 from President Obama and from the national security 984 00:51:15,138 --> 00:51:17,478 experts in the Obama administration that have 985 00:51:17,474 --> 00:51:18,674 been implementing that policy 986 00:51:18,675 --> 00:51:20,015 and implementing that strategy. 987 00:51:20,010 --> 00:51:25,120 But I think the reassurance that President Obama can 988 00:51:25,115 --> 00:51:29,585 offer to a lot of our allies is that, traditionally, and 989 00:51:29,586 --> 00:51:32,756 for generations, in some cases, our alliances have 990 00:51:32,756 --> 00:51:35,196 transcended individual Presidents and individual 991 00:51:35,192 --> 00:51:37,832 political parties in part because some of our 992 00:51:37,828 --> 00:51:40,268 alliances are rooted in the deep cultural ties 993 00:51:40,263 --> 00:51:43,263 between our two countries. 994 00:51:43,266 --> 00:51:46,636 But ultimately, it's going to be up to the 995 00:51:46,636 --> 00:51:51,246 President-elect to decide. Carol. 996 00:51:51,241 --> 00:51:52,881 The Press: I want to go back to the President's rhetoric 997 00:51:52,876 --> 00:51:54,816 during the campaign. 998 00:51:54,811 --> 00:51:58,751 So you're saying that his comments about Donald Trump 999 00:51:58,748 --> 00:52:01,418 being unfit to be President of the United States and 1000 00:52:01,418 --> 00:52:03,718 shouldn't have the nuclear codes, he's a genuine 1001 00:52:03,720 --> 00:52:06,620 national security threat to the United States if he was 1002 00:52:06,623 --> 00:52:09,493 elected -- you're basically saying the President still 1003 00:52:09,493 --> 00:52:12,793 agrees with all of that, but the voters have spoken, so 1004 00:52:12,796 --> 00:52:17,396 the sun came up and everybody should move on? 1005 00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,070 Mr. Earnest: Well, look, I think what the President 1006 00:52:20,070 --> 00:52:23,010 said in the Rose Garden is that our democracy demands 1007 00:52:23,006 --> 00:52:25,806 -- the success of our democracy demands that the 1008 00:52:25,809 --> 00:52:29,909 President put aside his own personal political views and 1009 00:52:29,913 --> 00:52:34,113 his own preferences as he transitions out of office. 1010 00:52:34,117 --> 00:52:36,117 The President doesn't choose his successor; the 1011 00:52:36,119 --> 00:52:37,189 American people do. 1012 00:52:37,187 --> 00:52:38,187 They have spoken. 1013 00:52:38,188 --> 00:52:41,188 The Press: A lot of people took what he said very 1014 00:52:41,191 --> 00:52:46,201 seriously and therefore voted for Hillary Clinton 1015 00:52:46,196 --> 00:52:49,096 based on some of these things that he said. 1016 00:52:49,099 --> 00:52:51,869 And they're nervous, anxious. 1017 00:52:51,868 --> 00:52:53,338 So what does he say to them? 1018 00:52:53,336 --> 00:52:56,136 Mr. Earnest: He says to them that our -- the institutions 1019 00:52:56,139 --> 00:53:00,779 of our democracy have been in place for 240 years, and 1020 00:53:00,777 --> 00:53:06,117 our democracy has been buffeted by great challenge, 1021 00:53:06,116 --> 00:53:11,986 some of which originated inside the United States, 1022 00:53:11,988 --> 00:53:15,528 some of those challenges originated overseas. 1023 00:53:15,525 --> 00:53:17,995 But by relying on our institutions and democratic 1024 00:53:17,994 --> 00:53:22,404 traditions, demonstrating a faithful commitment to the 1025 00:53:22,399 --> 00:53:26,369 will of the American people, our democracy hasn't just 1026 00:53:26,369 --> 00:53:28,709 survived, it's thrived. 1027 00:53:31,207 --> 00:53:37,077 And the President places great faith in the American 1028 00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:40,450 people and in our longstanding democratic 1029 00:53:40,450 --> 00:53:42,390 traditions and institutions. 1030 00:53:42,385 --> 00:53:45,525 He places great faith in the people who make up those 1031 00:53:45,522 --> 00:53:49,122 institutions -- whether that's the United States 1032 00:53:49,125 --> 00:53:51,695 military, our men and women in law enforcement, the 1033 00:53:51,695 --> 00:53:55,335 millions of American patriots that are civil 1034 00:53:55,332 --> 00:53:58,102 servants that serve in our federal government. 1035 00:53:58,101 --> 00:54:01,141 He also places great confidence in those 1036 00:54:01,137 --> 00:54:05,207 Americans who don't work in government but are committed 1037 00:54:05,208 --> 00:54:08,748 to moving this country forward. 1038 00:54:08,745 --> 00:54:10,385 And that was the reference that he made in the Rose 1039 00:54:10,380 --> 00:54:15,020 Garden to teachers that are responsible for educating 1040 00:54:15,018 --> 00:54:16,658 the next generation of Americans. 1041 00:54:16,653 --> 00:54:18,053 They don't get a lot of glory, they don't get big 1042 00:54:18,388 --> 00:54:20,928 paychecks, but they are critical to the success of 1043 00:54:20,924 --> 00:54:23,424 our country and our country's future strength. 1044 00:54:23,426 --> 00:54:28,036 The same would apply to 1045 00:54:28,031 --> 00:54:29,601 nurses all across the country. 1046 00:54:29,599 --> 00:54:33,969 They don't get the glory, but they are doing the quiet 1047 00:54:33,970 --> 00:54:40,010 work of striving to perfect our union. 1048 00:54:40,010 --> 00:54:41,510 The Press: At tomorrow's meeting, do you know, is 1049 00:54:41,511 --> 00:54:43,511 Melania Trump also coming to meet with the First 1050 00:54:43,513 --> 00:54:45,213 Lady, as is tradition? 1051 00:54:45,215 --> 00:54:48,715 And any sense of what time this meeting will happen? 1052 00:54:48,718 --> 00:54:49,448 Mr. Earnest: Well, I'm not aware of 1053 00:54:49,452 --> 00:54:50,522 Mrs. Trump's travel plans. 1054 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,360 You'll have to check with her team. 1055 00:54:52,355 --> 00:54:53,655 The Press: Any sense of time? 1056 00:54:53,657 --> 00:54:55,257 Mr. Earnest: I don't have a sense of time yet, but we'll 1057 00:54:55,258 --> 00:54:56,728 try and pin that down before the end of the day today so 1058 00:54:56,726 --> 00:54:57,526 you guys can plan 1059 00:54:57,527 --> 00:54:59,497 your day tomorrow. Mark. 1060 00:54:59,496 --> 00:55:03,936 The Press: Josh, if the President puts aside the 1061 00:55:03,933 --> 00:55:07,433 harsh criticism that he leveled against Trump during 1062 00:55:07,437 --> 00:55:11,077 the campaign and welcomes him tomorrow, doesn't that 1063 00:55:11,074 --> 00:55:15,274 put the meeting under an air of insincerity, bearing in 1064 00:55:17,347 --> 00:55:21,747 mind what was said about him -- what Carol mentioned, the 1065 00:55:21,751 --> 00:55:25,551 unfit and unqualified to be President and 1066 00:55:25,555 --> 00:55:26,795 Commander-in-Chief? 1067 00:55:26,790 --> 00:55:28,690 Mr. Earnest: No -- to be blunt. 1068 00:55:28,692 --> 00:55:33,532 The President is quite sincere about fulfilling the 1069 00:55:33,530 --> 00:55:37,000 basic responsibility that he has to the American people 1070 00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,900 and our democracy to ensure a smooth transition to 1071 00:55:40,904 --> 00:55:43,544 the next presidency. 1072 00:55:43,540 --> 00:55:47,980 At the same time, Mark, the President has no desire or 1073 00:55:47,977 --> 00:55:50,247 inclination to paper over the deep differences that 1074 00:55:50,246 --> 00:55:52,116 the two of them have. 1075 00:55:52,115 --> 00:55:54,085 The President acknowledged them in his remarks in the 1076 00:55:54,084 --> 00:55:55,614 Rose Garden. 1077 00:55:55,618 --> 00:56:02,328 And his expectation is that President-elect Trump is 1078 00:56:02,325 --> 00:56:06,265 going to make the decisions that are consistent with his 1079 00:56:06,262 --> 00:56:10,872 own policy views when he becomes President of the 1080 00:56:10,867 --> 00:56:12,707 United States. 1081 00:56:12,702 --> 00:56:16,672 And there's a strong chance that President Obama is 1082 00:56:16,673 --> 00:56:21,443 going to disagree with at least some of those 1083 00:56:21,444 --> 00:56:24,544 decisions, but the success of our democracy depends on 1084 00:56:24,547 --> 00:56:27,917 everybody -- every single citizen -- including the 1085 00:56:27,917 --> 00:56:32,087 President of the United States, setting aside their 1086 00:56:32,088 --> 00:56:34,258 partisan affiliation, setting aside their 1087 00:56:34,257 --> 00:56:38,797 political preferences, and rooting for the success of 1088 00:56:38,795 --> 00:56:43,065 the American President as that person seeks to unite 1089 00:56:43,066 --> 00:56:46,236 the country and move us forward. 1090 00:56:46,236 --> 00:56:51,706 So I'm not saying it's going to be an easy meeting, but 1091 00:56:51,708 --> 00:56:55,448 the President is deeply sincere about fulfilling 1092 00:56:55,445 --> 00:56:56,445 this responsibility. 1093 00:56:56,446 --> 00:57:00,116 And look, I think it was also evident from hearing 1094 00:57:00,116 --> 00:57:06,756 the President talk about this that President Obama 1095 00:57:06,756 --> 00:57:10,856 entered office at a tumultuous time in our 1096 00:57:10,860 --> 00:57:12,360 nation's history. 1097 00:57:12,362 --> 00:57:14,832 We were in the depths of the worst economic crisis since 1098 00:57:14,831 --> 00:57:17,601 the Great Depression. 1099 00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:24,270 And his ability to mobilize an effective response that 1100 00:57:24,274 --> 00:57:29,284 has spawned a historically strong recovery depended on 1101 00:57:32,415 --> 00:57:33,855 him getting a running start. 1102 00:57:33,850 --> 00:57:37,150 And that running start was only possible because of the 1103 00:57:37,153 --> 00:57:40,693 commitment of President Bush and his team to this same 1104 00:57:40,690 --> 00:57:42,930 principle of a smooth and effective transition. 1105 00:57:42,926 --> 00:57:46,526 So President Obama has experienced firsthand how a 1106 00:57:46,529 --> 00:57:51,169 President benefits from the incumbent President devoting 1107 00:57:51,167 --> 00:57:54,067 the time and energy that's necessary to help the 1108 00:57:54,070 --> 00:57:56,470 incoming President get off to a running start. 1109 00:57:56,472 --> 00:58:02,082 And President Obama is genuinely rooting for 1110 00:58:02,078 --> 00:58:04,078 President-elect Trump to succeed in uniting the 1111 00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:07,620 country and helping this 1112 00:58:07,617 --> 00:58:09,117 country make additional progress. 1113 00:58:09,118 --> 00:58:14,088 And that's a sincerely held view. 1114 00:58:14,090 --> 00:58:17,160 The Press: And despite what you said at the start, might 1115 00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:21,930 you want to respond or comment on what Speaker Ryan 1116 00:58:21,931 --> 00:58:27,271 said -- that the election was a repudiation of the 1117 00:58:27,270 --> 00:58:30,910 liberal and progressive policies of this President? 1118 00:58:30,907 --> 00:58:33,677 Mr. Earnest: I think there will be plenty of time for 1119 00:58:33,676 --> 00:58:36,516 me to respond to statements like that in the days ahead. 1120 00:58:36,512 --> 00:58:40,012 But in the spirit of today, we'll set that aside. 1121 00:58:40,016 --> 00:58:42,056 But we can talk tomorrow. 1122 00:58:42,051 --> 00:58:42,891 I've got some thoughts. 1123 00:58:42,886 --> 00:58:44,256 Michelle. 1124 00:58:44,254 --> 00:58:45,424 The Press: What can you say about how much of the 1125 00:58:45,421 --> 00:58:46,691 returns the President watched? 1126 00:58:46,689 --> 00:58:47,929 How late was he up? 1127 00:58:47,924 --> 00:58:49,394 Was he up all night? 1128 00:58:49,392 --> 00:58:50,392 Who was he watching with? 1129 00:58:50,393 --> 00:58:53,033 Was he with his family and staff? 1130 00:58:53,029 --> 00:58:54,829 And what can you say about his reaction? 1131 00:58:54,831 --> 00:58:57,831 I mean, during the campaign, you said that there was no 1132 00:58:57,834 --> 00:58:59,834 comparison between these candidates, that there 1133 00:58:59,836 --> 00:59:01,276 really wasn't a choice. 1134 00:59:01,271 --> 00:59:03,511 But this is the choice that was made. 1135 00:59:03,506 --> 00:59:06,906 I mean, surely he must have been stunned at some point. 1136 00:59:06,910 --> 00:59:09,310 Mr. Earnest: President Obama did stay up late. 1137 00:59:09,312 --> 00:59:12,252 It was not until after Mr. Trump -- President-elect 1138 00:59:12,248 --> 00:59:14,788 Trump completed his remarks last night that President 1139 00:59:14,784 --> 00:59:17,654 Obama was able to reach him on the telephone. 1140 00:59:17,654 --> 00:59:20,954 So I know it was at least 3:30 a.m. 1141 00:59:20,957 --> 00:59:21,957 or 4:00 a.m. 1142 00:59:21,958 --> 00:59:24,158 before President Obama was able to turn in. 1143 00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:28,970 I suspect the same is true of all of you. 1144 00:59:28,965 --> 00:59:32,235 So he's not looking for any sympathy. 1145 00:59:32,235 --> 00:59:33,805 The Press: Was he with staff and family? 1146 00:59:33,803 --> 00:59:35,343 Mr. Earnest: The President was in the residence. 1147 00:59:35,338 --> 00:59:38,708 I don't know that there was any staff that was 1148 00:59:38,708 --> 00:59:39,808 with him in person. 1149 00:59:39,809 --> 00:59:41,409 He obviously was in communication with a number 1150 00:59:41,411 --> 00:59:43,251 of staff members last night. 1151 00:59:43,246 --> 00:59:46,886 And I don't know whether or not members of his family 1152 00:59:46,883 --> 00:59:48,883 joined him as he was watching the results. 1153 00:59:48,885 --> 00:59:52,055 The Press: Okay, and his reaction to things going 1154 00:59:52,055 --> 00:59:53,055 the way they did? 1155 00:59:53,056 --> 00:59:55,056 Mr. Earnest: Listen, I think you got a good sense of the 1156 00:59:55,058 --> 00:59:58,328 President's reaction in the Rose Garden, which is the 1157 00:59:58,328 --> 01:00:00,798 candidate that he was supporting didn't win and 1158 01:00:00,797 --> 01:00:05,037 that's disappointing -- to him and to the 52 million 1159 01:00:05,034 --> 01:00:07,634 other people who voted for Secretary Clinton. 1160 01:00:07,637 --> 01:00:09,637 The Press: So you're saying that at no point in the 1161 01:00:09,639 --> 01:00:12,679 night was he surprised or had any other reaction other 1162 01:00:12,675 --> 01:00:14,245 than an upbeat, let's move forward? 1163 01:00:14,243 --> 01:00:17,343 Mr. Earnest: No, I don't think anybody -- and when I 1164 01:00:17,347 --> 01:00:21,847 say I mean everybody got an outcome that we weren't 1165 01:00:21,851 --> 01:00:24,121 expecting, that applies to the President, too. 1166 01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:25,620 The Press: Can you describe anything of his reaction 1167 01:00:25,621 --> 01:00:26,961 along those lines, though? 1168 01:00:26,956 --> 01:00:29,596 Because I think -- Mr. Earnest: Look, it wasn't 1169 01:00:29,592 --> 01:00:31,132 a positive surprise in his mind. 1170 01:00:31,127 --> 01:00:34,927 He obviously was forcefully weighing in, in support of 1171 01:00:34,931 --> 01:00:36,161 Secretary Clinton. 1172 01:00:36,165 --> 01:00:38,365 And he felt strongly about this race. 1173 01:00:38,368 --> 01:00:41,808 He made clear that there was a clear choice. 1174 01:00:41,804 --> 01:00:46,914 But the President knew going into last night that once 1175 01:00:46,909 --> 01:00:51,879 people started casting ballots on Election Day, his 1176 01:00:51,881 --> 01:00:56,351 responsibility shifted from advocating for his preferred 1177 01:00:56,352 --> 01:01:03,192 successor to planning for a smooth transition with 1178 01:01:03,192 --> 01:01:07,532 whomever won the election. 1179 01:01:07,530 --> 01:01:11,500 So he was mindful from the beginning of his 1180 01:01:11,501 --> 01:01:13,501 responsibilities to the country and to our 1181 01:01:13,503 --> 01:01:15,673 democracy, in part because of his own personal 1182 01:01:15,671 --> 01:01:17,671 experience of benefitting from that kind of planning 1183 01:01:17,673 --> 01:01:20,143 that President Obama -- that President 1184 01:01:20,143 --> 01:01:23,013 Bush initiated in 2008. 1185 01:01:23,012 --> 01:01:25,582 The Press: Do you know at what point he started to 1186 01:01:25,581 --> 01:01:27,151 think, this is really going in the opposite 1187 01:01:27,150 --> 01:01:28,580 direction than expected? 1188 01:01:28,584 --> 01:01:30,254 Mr. Earnest: I don't know at which point 1189 01:01:30,253 --> 01:01:31,253 he reached that conclusion. 1190 01:01:31,254 --> 01:01:37,024 I think that eventuality sort of dawned on everybody 1191 01:01:37,026 --> 01:01:41,936 at some point probably relatively late in the 1192 01:01:41,931 --> 01:01:42,861 evening last night. 1193 01:01:42,865 --> 01:01:44,135 The Press: Okay. 1194 01:01:44,133 --> 01:01:46,703 And these comments have been brought up a couple of times 1195 01:01:46,702 --> 01:01:49,602 now, but for both the President and other members 1196 01:01:49,605 --> 01:01:53,045 of the administration to say during this campaign that 1197 01:01:53,042 --> 01:01:56,082 the things that Donald Trump was saying were danger -- 1198 01:01:56,079 --> 01:01:59,849 were actually dangerous to national security, and you 1199 01:01:59,849 --> 01:02:04,759 said just today that there are real concerns -- so what 1200 01:02:04,754 --> 01:02:05,124 are at the top of the 1201 01:02:05,121 --> 01:02:06,891 President's concerns right now? 1202 01:02:06,889 --> 01:02:10,059 For somebody to transition to someone that he actually 1203 01:02:10,059 --> 01:02:16,429 called unfit and dangerous for national security? 1204 01:02:16,432 --> 01:02:17,702 Mr. Earnest: Michelle, that is the rhetoric that you 1205 01:02:17,700 --> 01:02:20,700 heard from the President on the campaign trail. 1206 01:02:20,703 --> 01:02:24,603 That rhetoric reflects the President's views. 1207 01:02:24,607 --> 01:02:26,977 It certainly reflects his own experience of having 1208 01:02:26,976 --> 01:02:28,576 served in this job. 1209 01:02:28,578 --> 01:02:32,848 And it reflects his own unique perspective on who is 1210 01:02:32,849 --> 01:02:34,119 best qualified to succeed him. 1211 01:02:34,117 --> 01:02:36,787 But the election is over. 1212 01:02:36,786 --> 01:02:38,656 The election has been decided. 1213 01:02:38,654 --> 01:02:39,824 And we live in a democracy. 1214 01:02:39,822 --> 01:02:41,822 And that democracy means that the President doesn't 1215 01:02:41,824 --> 01:02:44,424 choose his successor -- the American people do. 1216 01:02:44,427 --> 01:02:45,757 And they did. 1217 01:02:45,761 --> 01:02:48,401 And the President's responsibility as the 1218 01:02:48,397 --> 01:02:52,437 outgoing President is to ensure a smooth and 1219 01:02:52,435 --> 01:02:55,305 effective transition with the President-elect. 1220 01:02:55,304 --> 01:02:59,444 And that is now the President's top priority. 1221 01:02:59,442 --> 01:03:03,142 And that's one that previous 1222 01:03:03,146 --> 01:03:04,446 Presidents have demonstrated. 1223 01:03:04,447 --> 01:03:07,217 It's served our country and our citizens very well. 1224 01:03:07,216 --> 01:03:09,216 And the President's expectation is that a 1225 01:03:09,218 --> 01:03:11,218 commitment to those principles and a commitment 1226 01:03:11,220 --> 01:03:13,220 to an effective transition will serve the country well 1227 01:03:13,222 --> 01:03:14,222 this time, too. 1228 01:03:14,223 --> 01:03:16,393 The Press: That's exactly my question, though. 1229 01:03:16,392 --> 01:03:18,632 I mean, you said that the time for argument is over. 1230 01:03:18,628 --> 01:03:19,358 Well, that's right. 1231 01:03:19,362 --> 01:03:20,902 This is now real. 1232 01:03:20,897 --> 01:03:23,437 So if we are to believe, as you said we should, the 1233 01:03:23,432 --> 01:03:26,672 President's concerns that this was a dangerous 1234 01:03:26,669 --> 01:03:29,739 situation, surely the President must have some 1235 01:03:29,739 --> 01:03:31,609 real concerns right now. 1236 01:03:31,607 --> 01:03:36,077 And can you describe maybe the parameters 1237 01:03:36,078 --> 01:03:36,678 of those concerns? 1238 01:03:36,679 --> 01:03:37,279 Mr. Earnest: Well, listen, I want to be 1239 01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:38,280 real clear about this. 1240 01:03:38,281 --> 01:03:40,381 The election is over. 1241 01:03:40,383 --> 01:03:41,813 There are going to continue to be debates in this 1242 01:03:41,817 --> 01:03:44,787 country about the future of our country. 1243 01:03:44,787 --> 01:03:47,087 There are going to be tough debates in Congress about 1244 01:03:47,089 --> 01:03:48,089 the future of our country. 1245 01:03:48,090 --> 01:03:50,090 There are going to be tough debates inside the 1246 01:03:50,092 --> 01:03:52,592 Republican Party about the future of our country. 1247 01:03:52,595 --> 01:03:55,035 There are going to be some tough debates inside the 1248 01:03:55,031 --> 01:03:58,371 Democratic Party about the future of our country. 1249 01:03:58,367 --> 01:03:59,537 So the election is over. 1250 01:03:59,535 --> 01:04:05,175 And you've seen Secretary Clinton and Senator Kaine 1251 01:04:05,174 --> 01:04:09,514 offer up their gracious concession. 1252 01:04:09,512 --> 01:04:14,422 And you heard President Obama graciously commit to a 1253 01:04:14,417 --> 01:04:18,187 smooth transition, even with a candidate that he did not 1254 01:04:18,187 --> 01:04:22,597 support -- in fact, one that he vehemently opposed. 1255 01:04:22,592 --> 01:04:25,132 But that's what our democracy demands, and that 1256 01:04:25,127 --> 01:04:29,837 is evidence of the durability and strength of 1257 01:04:29,832 --> 01:04:32,672 our democracy. 1258 01:04:32,668 --> 01:04:36,108 And it will serve the incoming President well. 1259 01:04:36,105 --> 01:04:38,075 It will serve the incoming Congress well. 1260 01:04:38,074 --> 01:04:39,614 It will serve our allies and partners 1261 01:04:39,609 --> 01:04:41,509 around the world well. 1262 01:04:41,510 --> 01:04:43,480 It will serve our economy well. 1263 01:04:43,479 --> 01:04:45,179 And that's why the President has made 1264 01:04:45,181 --> 01:04:47,051 this such a priority. 1265 01:04:47,049 --> 01:04:49,449 The Press: And our democracy also demands that, at some 1266 01:04:49,885 --> 01:04:52,555 rare times, although most recently in 2000, the winner 1267 01:04:52,555 --> 01:04:56,195 of the popular vote is not always the President. 1268 01:04:56,192 --> 01:04:59,362 Does that make this more painful for 1269 01:04:59,362 --> 01:05:01,502 the administration? 1270 01:05:01,497 --> 01:05:03,437 Mr. Earnest: Look, I can't speak for everybody, but it 1271 01:05:03,432 --> 01:05:05,202 doesn't to me. 1272 01:05:05,201 --> 01:05:09,941 Everybody knows the rules -- everybody knew what the 1273 01:05:09,939 --> 01:05:11,979 rules were. 1274 01:05:11,974 --> 01:05:15,444 And I think the outcome of the popular vote is an 1275 01:05:16,912 --> 01:05:21,852 indication that Secretary Clinton's historic campaign 1276 01:05:21,851 --> 01:05:27,021 succeeded in mobilizing tens of millions of Americans 1277 01:05:27,023 --> 01:05:30,763 behind her vision and her candidacy. 1278 01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:32,600 That is a credit to her. 1279 01:05:34,363 --> 01:05:36,363 President Obama I think deserves a little credit for 1280 01:05:36,365 --> 01:05:38,365 that too, given how aggressively he campaigned 1281 01:05:38,367 --> 01:05:44,237 for her and given the kind of agenda 1282 01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:46,680 that he also laid out. 1283 01:05:46,676 --> 01:05:55,116 But no, everybody was aware of the fact that the next 1284 01:05:55,685 --> 01:05:59,055 President is determined based on a count in the 1285 01:05:59,055 --> 01:06:02,755 Electoral College, not a count of the popular vote. 1286 01:06:02,758 --> 01:06:03,358 The Press: Okay. 1287 01:06:03,359 --> 01:06:05,129 And quickly, also during the campaign, he said many 1288 01:06:05,127 --> 01:06:10,637 statements to the effect of this is not who America is; 1289 01:06:10,633 --> 01:06:14,203 this is not what we stand for; I believe in the 1290 01:06:14,203 --> 01:06:18,143 judgment and values of the American people that they 1291 01:06:18,140 --> 01:06:21,840 will choose the candidate I support; and that America is 1292 01:06:21,844 --> 01:06:24,044 not as divided as people say. 1293 01:06:24,046 --> 01:06:26,516 Does he still believe those things that he said then? 1294 01:06:26,515 --> 01:06:30,655 Mr. Earnest: Well, I think what is true is that the 1295 01:06:30,653 --> 01:06:34,223 President had an opportunity to convey his very 1296 01:06:34,223 --> 01:06:36,223 well-known views about the two candidates on the 1297 01:06:36,225 --> 01:06:38,425 campaign trail many, many times over 1298 01:06:38,427 --> 01:06:40,427 the last several weeks. 1299 01:06:44,433 --> 01:06:47,003 But he knew all along that what he was doing is 1300 01:06:47,002 --> 01:06:51,572 advocating to the American people, trying to convince 1301 01:06:51,574 --> 01:06:53,574 them to support his preferred candidate. 1302 01:06:55,945 --> 01:06:59,815 And some 52 million of them did. 1303 01:06:59,815 --> 01:07:02,685 But not enough to win the electoral vote, and that is 1304 01:07:02,685 --> 01:07:04,525 our system of democracy. 1305 01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:10,060 And it's not perfect, but it's a system that has 1306 01:07:10,059 --> 01:07:11,059 served us very well. 1307 01:07:11,060 --> 01:07:13,060 The Press: But what I'm saying is, has this changed 1308 01:07:13,062 --> 01:07:15,562 the President's view of who we are and what America is? 1309 01:07:15,564 --> 01:07:17,564 If that's kind of the tone that he was taking. 1310 01:07:17,566 --> 01:07:19,566 Mr. Earnest: No, I don't want to leave 1311 01:07:19,568 --> 01:07:20,568 you with that impression. 1312 01:07:20,569 --> 01:07:22,569 Obviously, the President disagrees with the outcome, 1313 01:07:22,571 --> 01:07:26,471 and his preferred candidate didn't win. 1314 01:07:26,475 --> 01:07:31,515 But, look, what it says about the voters and their 1315 01:07:31,514 --> 01:07:36,114 motivation and their priorities -- again, I think 1316 01:07:36,118 --> 01:07:38,918 people are going to spend weeks, months, if not years, 1317 01:07:38,921 --> 01:07:43,591 trying to discern what this all means. 1318 01:07:43,592 --> 01:07:48,662 But at the most basic level, what it means is that it 1319 01:07:48,664 --> 01:07:51,334 means Donald Trump is the President-elect of the 1320 01:07:51,333 --> 01:07:55,803 United States, and the responsibility of the 1321 01:07:55,805 --> 01:07:56,675 sitting President is to make sure that President-elect 1322 01:07:56,672 --> 01:07:58,112 Trump can hit the ground running when he enters 1323 01:07:58,107 --> 01:07:58,837 the Oval Office. 1324 01:07:58,841 --> 01:08:00,381 The Press: At one point he told I think it was a group 1325 01:08:00,376 --> 01:08:02,546 of black lawmakers that he would take it as a personal 1326 01:08:02,545 --> 01:08:06,215 insult if Hillary Clinton was not elected and if great 1327 01:08:06,215 --> 01:08:07,455 numbers didn't turn out. 1328 01:08:07,450 --> 01:08:10,120 So does he take this as a personal insult? 1329 01:08:10,119 --> 01:08:14,219 Mr. Earnest: Well, listen, the feelings that the 1330 01:08:14,223 --> 01:08:16,423 President was conveying in that speech to the CBC were 1331 01:08:16,425 --> 01:08:19,125 authentic and they reflect his views. 1332 01:08:19,128 --> 01:08:24,138 But the election is over, and the time for advocating 1333 01:08:27,770 --> 01:08:30,540 for a specific candidate has come to an end. 1334 01:08:30,539 --> 01:08:33,209 And the time for planning for a smooth, effective 1335 01:08:33,209 --> 01:08:36,409 transition for the President-elect 1336 01:08:36,412 --> 01:08:37,582 is now well underway. 1337 01:08:37,580 --> 01:08:40,320 And that's a process that President Obama is 1338 01:08:40,316 --> 01:08:41,816 deeply committed to. 1339 01:08:41,817 --> 01:08:43,417 Gardiner. 1340 01:08:43,419 --> 01:08:45,419 The Press: Josh, you've emphasized the smooth 1341 01:08:45,421 --> 01:08:47,891 transition being important and you keep pointing back 1342 01:08:47,890 --> 01:08:49,660 to the transition that happened between George W. 1343 01:08:49,658 --> 01:08:51,558 Bush and Mr. Obama. 1344 01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:55,500 But as far as I know, Mr. Bush never tried to 1345 01:08:55,498 --> 01:08:58,738 lobby President Obama directly to maintain 1346 01:08:58,734 --> 01:09:00,034 some of his policies. 1347 01:09:00,035 --> 01:09:03,105 But you just told us that the President will have the 1348 01:09:03,105 --> 01:09:06,245 opportunity to talk to the President-elect Trump about 1349 01:09:06,242 --> 01:09:08,312 some of these policies. 1350 01:09:08,310 --> 01:09:12,010 Are you suggesting that Mr. Obama is going to lobby 1351 01:09:12,014 --> 01:09:15,514 Mr. Trump directly to maintain some of these 1352 01:09:15,518 --> 01:09:18,418 policies that Mr. Trump has repeatedly excoriated on 1353 01:09:18,420 --> 01:09:19,990 the campaign trail? 1354 01:09:19,989 --> 01:09:23,659 And if that's not going to happen, doesn't that mean 1355 01:09:23,659 --> 01:09:26,999 that the Iran deal, emission limits, immigration edicts, 1356 01:09:26,996 --> 01:09:30,136 transgender bathrooms -- all those things are sort of 1357 01:09:30,132 --> 01:09:34,402 gone on January 21st? 1358 01:09:34,403 --> 01:09:35,603 Mr. Earnest: There's a lot there -- that's good. 1359 01:09:35,604 --> 01:09:36,674 The Press: Sorry. 1360 01:09:36,672 --> 01:09:37,972 Mr. Earnest: That's okay. 1361 01:09:37,973 --> 01:09:38,843 These are important questions. 1362 01:09:38,841 --> 01:09:41,881 I think the first thing is, I can't speak to the nature 1363 01:09:41,877 --> 01:09:45,477 of the conversations between President Bush and then 1364 01:09:45,481 --> 01:09:48,551 President-elect Obama. 1365 01:09:48,551 --> 01:09:50,621 I don't know if President Bush lobbied President Obama 1366 01:09:50,619 --> 01:09:53,189 on any issues or not. 1367 01:09:53,188 --> 01:09:55,488 I think what I would say in terms of trying to help you 1368 01:09:55,491 --> 01:09:58,591 get a sense of the kinds of conversations I'm trying to 1369 01:09:58,594 --> 01:10:02,264 describe, I wouldn't use the word "lobby." I think what I 1370 01:10:02,264 --> 01:10:07,574 would do is I would basically say the intent of 1371 01:10:07,570 --> 01:10:12,580 President Obama and his team is to brief President-elect 1372 01:10:12,575 --> 01:10:14,915 Trump and his team on these policies. 1373 01:10:14,910 --> 01:10:18,450 The Press: (Inaudible.) 1374 01:10:18,447 --> 01:10:21,387 Mr. Earnest: Again, the point 1375 01:10:21,383 --> 01:10:24,783 that I'm trying to make is this, is that -- 1376 01:10:24,787 --> 01:10:27,557 and President Obama has acknowledged this -- that 1377 01:10:27,556 --> 01:10:29,556 the view of certain policies once you're inside 1378 01:10:29,558 --> 01:10:36,228 government gives you a new appreciation for the 1379 01:10:36,231 --> 01:10:38,801 benefits of those policies. 1380 01:10:38,801 --> 01:10:42,141 Am I suggesting that President Trump is going to 1381 01:10:42,137 --> 01:10:44,137 reverse himself on a whole range of things that he's 1382 01:10:44,139 --> 01:10:46,139 been campaigning on for more than a year and a half? No. 1383 01:10:46,141 --> 01:10:48,141 I'm not trying to make that case, because I don't 1384 01:10:48,143 --> 01:10:49,143 think that's true. 1385 01:10:49,144 --> 01:10:54,154 But what President Obama is hopeful of is -- well, what 1386 01:10:57,653 --> 01:10:59,693 President Obama is committed to is an effective 1387 01:10:59,688 --> 01:11:03,088 transition that helps bring President-elect Trump and 1388 01:11:03,092 --> 01:11:07,362 his team up to speed on the current status of U.S. 1389 01:11:07,363 --> 01:11:09,363 policy, including foreign policy. 1390 01:11:09,365 --> 01:11:12,635 And there is a long tradition of Presidents, 1391 01:11:12,635 --> 01:11:16,205 even Presidents in different parties, seeking to preserve 1392 01:11:16,205 --> 01:11:19,805 some measure of continuity, particularly where those 1393 01:11:19,808 --> 01:11:22,548 interests align. 1394 01:11:22,544 --> 01:11:24,544 I wouldn't predict at this point how 1395 01:11:24,546 --> 01:11:25,616 all that shakes out. 1396 01:11:25,614 --> 01:11:28,154 The one thing that I would point out is that there are 1397 01:11:28,150 --> 01:11:33,160 certain situations where the downside of unilaterally 1398 01:11:37,526 --> 01:11:39,526 withdrawing from some of these international 1399 01:11:39,528 --> 01:11:42,628 agreements is significant. 1400 01:11:46,168 --> 01:11:48,938 So the consequences, for example, with the Iran deal, 1401 01:11:48,937 --> 01:11:54,307 of pulling out, you do risk 1402 01:11:54,309 --> 01:11:59,819 the Iranians trying to break out. 1403 01:11:59,815 --> 01:12:01,885 At the same time, there's also a U.N. 1404 01:12:01,884 --> 01:12:04,354 Security Council resolution that applies to this 1405 01:12:04,353 --> 01:12:07,953 agreement -- that means that this agreement is something 1406 01:12:07,956 --> 01:12:12,966 that's supported by our allies, but also by Russia. 1407 01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:20,370 That, I think, could be a pretty good indication of 1408 01:12:20,369 --> 01:12:27,109 how united the international community 1409 01:12:27,109 --> 01:12:30,709 is behind this agreement. 1410 01:12:30,713 --> 01:12:34,783 And President-elect Trump will have to decide what 1411 01:12:34,783 --> 01:12:37,883 impact a sort of unilateral withdrawal would have on our 1412 01:12:37,886 --> 01:12:40,186 relationship with countries around the world. 1413 01:12:40,189 --> 01:12:42,259 But, again, the American people have trusted him 1414 01:12:42,257 --> 01:12:43,427 with the presidency. 1415 01:12:43,425 --> 01:12:45,595 He will determine the course of our foreign policy and 1416 01:12:45,594 --> 01:12:48,194 our national security, and he'll have to evaluate 1417 01:12:48,197 --> 01:12:49,197 all of those things. 1418 01:12:49,198 --> 01:12:55,768 My point is, is based on the existence of that U.N. 1419 01:12:55,771 --> 01:12:57,811 Security Council resolution, based on the potential 1420 01:12:57,806 --> 01:13:00,646 consequences of unilaterally withdrawing from that 1421 01:13:00,642 --> 01:13:06,552 agreement, it's much more complicated than saying 1422 01:13:06,548 --> 01:13:08,548 you're just going to tear the agreement up. 1423 01:13:08,550 --> 01:13:11,350 It doesn't mean he won't do it. 1424 01:13:11,353 --> 01:13:14,223 It just means that when briefed on all of these 1425 01:13:14,223 --> 01:13:19,293 consequences, he'll have to take a close look at what 1426 01:13:19,294 --> 01:13:20,564 policy he chooses to pursue. 1427 01:13:20,562 --> 01:13:23,132 The Press: But that assumes an optimism that your 1428 01:13:23,132 --> 01:13:26,202 briefing can actually change his mind. 1429 01:13:26,201 --> 01:13:28,371 And this is a man, Mr. Trump, whom the 1430 01:13:28,370 --> 01:13:31,640 President has described for months as someone who is 1431 01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:35,080 deliberately ignorant about much of what goes on in the 1432 01:13:35,077 --> 01:13:37,417 federal government and doesn't seem interested, 1433 01:13:37,412 --> 01:13:42,082 actually, in losing his ignorance about many 1434 01:13:42,084 --> 01:13:42,954 of these issues. 1435 01:13:42,951 --> 01:13:48,061 So you're suggesting a process here of the 1436 01:13:48,056 --> 01:13:50,726 President educating the President-elect in a way 1437 01:13:50,726 --> 01:13:55,766 that will get him to change his mind, but that defied 1438 01:13:55,764 --> 01:13:58,864 the description that the President himself has given 1439 01:13:58,867 --> 01:14:01,267 of Mr. Trump as someone who's willing to take 1440 01:14:01,270 --> 01:14:02,570 counsel and change his mind. 1441 01:14:02,571 --> 01:14:04,911 Mr. Earnest: Well, look, the President acknowledged in 1442 01:14:04,907 --> 01:14:07,707 the Rose Garden that the tone that President-elect 1443 01:14:07,709 --> 01:14:11,749 Trump displayed last night, at a moment when the world 1444 01:14:11,747 --> 01:14:16,447 was watching, was markedly different than the tone that 1445 01:14:16,451 --> 01:14:19,551 he typically adopted on the campaign trail. 1446 01:14:19,555 --> 01:14:21,995 That's one small example. 1447 01:14:21,990 --> 01:14:23,990 Does that apply to his policy positions? 1448 01:14:23,992 --> 01:14:24,992 Who knows? 1449 01:14:24,993 --> 01:14:27,793 But in the context of ensuring an effective 1450 01:14:27,796 --> 01:14:30,136 transition, this administration is going to 1451 01:14:30,132 --> 01:14:34,772 convey as much information as possible about U.S. 1452 01:14:34,770 --> 01:14:38,510 policy and the benefits of that policy, and the 1453 01:14:38,507 --> 01:14:43,647 consequences, positive and negative, for our pursuit 1454 01:14:43,645 --> 01:14:46,015 of that policy. 1455 01:14:46,014 --> 01:14:48,384 And ultimately it will be up to President-elect Trump to 1456 01:14:48,383 --> 01:14:50,053 weigh all that information. 1457 01:14:50,052 --> 01:14:54,422 Presumably, he'll rely on the advice of experts and 1458 01:14:54,423 --> 01:14:56,423 advisors who have been supportive of his campaign, 1459 01:14:56,425 --> 01:14:58,965 and maybe even some who haven't been, to ultimately 1460 01:14:58,961 --> 01:15:01,661 make some of these decisions. 1461 01:15:01,663 --> 01:15:04,003 But your example of the Iran deal is a good one, because 1462 01:15:03,999 --> 01:15:08,669 there are significant and wide-ranging consequences 1463 01:15:08,670 --> 01:15:13,680 that make it clear that it's not just as simple as some 1464 01:15:18,847 --> 01:15:20,847 of the campaign rhetoric might make it seem. 1465 01:15:20,849 --> 01:15:22,489 Does that change his decision? 1466 01:15:22,484 --> 01:15:24,484 I have no idea. 1467 01:15:27,356 --> 01:15:29,696 And if he does, I guess I'll be reading about 1468 01:15:29,691 --> 01:15:32,691 it in the newspaper. Christi. 1469 01:15:32,694 --> 01:15:35,534 The Press: So, then, earlier when you said to Chris that 1470 01:15:35,530 --> 01:15:37,500 this is not going to be easy, you weren't just 1471 01:15:37,499 --> 01:15:40,199 talking about dismantling the Affordable Care Act, you 1472 01:15:40,202 --> 01:15:43,202 were talking about the Obama legacy? 1473 01:15:43,205 --> 01:15:46,945 Mr. Earnest: I think when I said -- at one point 1474 01:15:46,942 --> 01:15:48,942 earlier, I did say it won't be easy, and I think I was 1475 01:15:48,944 --> 01:15:51,444 referring to the meeting itself. 1476 01:15:51,446 --> 01:15:56,356 The Press: You were talking about trying to repeal 1477 01:15:56,351 --> 01:15:58,591 Obamacare is not just as easy as decree -- 1478 01:15:58,587 --> 01:15:59,417 Mr. Earnest: I see. 1479 01:15:59,421 --> 01:16:01,661 So that's a different example. 1480 01:16:01,657 --> 01:16:03,957 Obviously, there's a role for Congress to weigh in 1481 01:16:03,959 --> 01:16:05,499 on all of this. 1482 01:16:05,494 --> 01:16:07,494 There's still a Republican majority in both the House 1483 01:16:07,496 --> 01:16:09,496 and the Senate, which presumably would make that 1484 01:16:09,498 --> 01:16:11,068 a little bit easier. 1485 01:16:11,066 --> 01:16:13,066 But there are filibuster rules in the Senate that I 1486 01:16:13,068 --> 01:16:16,168 know that Leader McConnell has previously expressed 1487 01:16:16,171 --> 01:16:18,441 some significant passion for protecting. 1488 01:16:18,440 --> 01:16:22,680 We'll see if he retains that passion moving forward. 1489 01:16:22,678 --> 01:16:25,278 But that certainly would require 1490 01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:26,650 some bipartisan cooperation. 1491 01:16:26,648 --> 01:16:29,348 The same is true -- well, there's a different 1492 01:16:29,351 --> 01:16:33,151 situation in the House, which is that you all have 1493 01:16:33,155 --> 01:16:36,525 well chronicled the deep divisions within the 1494 01:16:36,525 --> 01:16:40,895 Republican Party in the House that make for a rather 1495 01:16:40,896 --> 01:16:41,696 unruly majority. 1496 01:16:41,697 --> 01:16:45,637 And it means that Speaker Ryan I think, in some cases, 1497 01:16:45,634 --> 01:16:47,974 is going to have to look for some Democratic 1498 01:16:47,970 --> 01:16:50,110 cooperation at least. 1499 01:16:50,105 --> 01:16:55,075 And again, when you're on the campaign trail you say, 1500 01:16:57,212 --> 01:16:59,782 well, this is a law I oppose, and I'm going to 1501 01:16:59,781 --> 01:17:01,281 tear it up when I get in. 1502 01:17:01,283 --> 01:17:03,983 But then you get into office and you realize, well, I'm 1503 01:17:03,986 --> 01:17:05,986 going to need Congress's cooperation, and it turns 1504 01:17:05,988 --> 01:17:07,988 out that we probably have to work in bipartisan fashion 1505 01:17:07,990 --> 01:17:09,990 to get anything done in the Senate. 1506 01:17:09,992 --> 01:17:12,592 Trying to organize the Republican conference in the 1507 01:17:12,594 --> 01:17:15,234 House of Representatives is kind of a mess. 1508 01:17:15,230 --> 01:17:17,370 All of a sudden it gets a lot harder. 1509 01:17:17,366 --> 01:17:20,166 Does that change the outcome? 1510 01:17:20,168 --> 01:17:21,168 I don't know. 1511 01:17:21,169 --> 01:17:22,639 We'll have to see. 1512 01:17:22,637 --> 01:17:24,737 My point is, is that these are the kinds of the 1513 01:17:24,740 --> 01:17:29,080 difficult questions that President-elect Trump will 1514 01:17:29,077 --> 01:17:31,077 inherit, particularly when you consider the 1515 01:17:31,079 --> 01:17:33,719 consequences of that decision, which include 1516 01:17:33,715 --> 01:17:37,085 stripping health care from 20 or 22 million Americans, 1517 01:17:37,085 --> 01:17:39,785 significantly increasing the deficit, significantly 1518 01:17:39,788 --> 01:17:40,788 increasing health care costs, 1519 01:17:40,789 --> 01:17:43,659 including for small businesses. 1520 01:17:43,658 --> 01:17:46,858 So there are real-world consequence to deal with 1521 01:17:46,862 --> 01:17:50,832 that often, in the context of campaign rhetoric, 1522 01:17:50,832 --> 01:17:51,832 aren't accounted for. 1523 01:17:51,833 --> 01:17:54,573 The Press: So what I'm getting at is if people are 1524 01:17:54,569 --> 01:17:58,509 tempted now to say the Obama legacy is toast, you would 1525 01:17:58,507 --> 01:18:02,607 contend with that -- based on your analysis of the 1526 01:18:02,611 --> 01:18:03,911 Obamacare repeal and what you just said to Gardiner 1527 01:18:03,912 --> 01:18:05,982 about the Iran deal? 1528 01:18:05,981 --> 01:18:08,621 Mr. Earnest: Well, again, I think it is far too early to 1529 01:18:08,617 --> 01:18:13,087 tell exactly what kind of decisions President-elect 1530 01:18:13,088 --> 01:18:19,628 Trump will make and what impact they will have on the 1531 01:18:19,628 --> 01:18:23,768 priorities that President Obama has 1532 01:18:23,765 --> 01:18:25,765 so proudly achieved. 1533 01:18:27,502 --> 01:18:31,502 It certainly is not as positive a picture that I'd 1534 01:18:31,506 --> 01:18:33,276 be painting if Secretary Clinton 1535 01:18:33,275 --> 01:18:34,405 had emerged victorious. 1536 01:18:34,409 --> 01:18:36,949 I'd feel a lot more confident because of the 1537 01:18:36,945 --> 01:18:38,945 rhetoric that she used on the campaign trail about her 1538 01:18:38,947 --> 01:18:41,347 commitment to pursuing many of the priorities that 1539 01:18:41,349 --> 01:18:43,489 President Obama has been focused on. 1540 01:18:43,485 --> 01:18:46,555 Mr. Trump ran on a different platform. 1541 01:18:46,555 --> 01:18:49,125 And what President Trump chooses to do with regard to 1542 01:18:49,124 --> 01:18:54,134 those policies as he makes decisions is something that 1543 01:18:57,599 --> 01:19:01,139 you can't fully analyze in the abstract. 1544 01:19:01,136 --> 01:19:04,336 We'll have to -- as his presidency moves forward, 1545 01:19:04,339 --> 01:19:06,809 you all will have an opportunity to evaluate what 1546 01:19:06,808 --> 01:19:11,448 impact his decisions have had on the accomplishments 1547 01:19:11,446 --> 01:19:13,446 that President Obama and his team are quite proud of. 1548 01:19:13,448 --> 01:19:16,248 The Press: So it's not as positive as if Hillary 1549 01:19:16,251 --> 01:19:17,991 Clinton had been elected, but not as bleak as the 1550 01:19:17,986 --> 01:19:20,186 President portrayed it last week? 1551 01:19:20,188 --> 01:19:23,128 Mr. Earnest: Well, again, I think -- the President 1552 01:19:23,125 --> 01:19:25,125 stands by the rhetoric that he used on the campaign 1553 01:19:25,127 --> 01:19:28,927 trail, but the President has also, himself, in describing 1554 01:19:28,930 --> 01:19:32,130 his own campaigning and his own governing, has noted 1555 01:19:32,134 --> 01:19:34,134 that there's a significant difference 1556 01:19:34,136 --> 01:19:36,136 between the two things. 1557 01:19:36,138 --> 01:19:38,378 It doesn't mean that you fold on your principles. 1558 01:19:38,373 --> 01:19:42,473 It doesn't mean that you're necessarily over-promising. 1559 01:19:42,477 --> 01:19:44,917 It just means that they are two different things. 1560 01:19:47,215 --> 01:19:50,785 And it's why there are all these open questions that 1561 01:19:50,785 --> 01:19:53,755 only President-elect Trump can answer. 1562 01:19:53,755 --> 01:19:57,325 And I don't know how many of them he'll try to answer on 1563 01:19:57,325 --> 01:19:59,725 the first day, but you guys will just have 1564 01:19:59,728 --> 01:20:01,128 to let me know. 1565 01:20:01,129 --> 01:20:01,799 The Press: Let me ask you this. 1566 01:20:01,796 --> 01:20:04,096 You also said to Margaret that when the President is 1567 01:20:04,099 --> 01:20:07,999 overseas he'll be trying to reassure allies and partners 1568 01:20:08,003 --> 01:20:10,203 of the steadfast commitment. 1569 01:20:10,205 --> 01:20:12,045 I mean, that's in question now, right? 1570 01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:14,680 How can he do that, exactly? 1571 01:20:14,676 --> 01:20:17,976 Mr. Earnest: Well, he can do that based on the 1572 01:20:17,979 --> 01:20:20,779 longstanding tradition in our democracy of Democratic 1573 01:20:20,782 --> 01:20:24,852 and Republican Presidents reinforcing our 1574 01:20:24,853 --> 01:20:27,853 relationships around the world that advance our 1575 01:20:27,856 --> 01:20:29,126 national interest. 1576 01:20:29,124 --> 01:20:31,324 There's a Democratic and Republican tradition to 1577 01:20:31,326 --> 01:20:32,496 strengthening our alliance 1578 01:20:32,494 --> 01:20:33,764 with South Korea, for example. 1579 01:20:33,762 --> 01:20:38,062 And what we have found is that our alliance with South 1580 01:20:38,066 --> 01:20:41,406 Korea supersedes any individual presidency, it 1581 01:20:41,403 --> 01:20:45,273 supersedes any individual political party, because 1582 01:20:45,273 --> 01:20:47,513 we've seen multiple Presidents in both parties 1583 01:20:47,509 --> 01:20:51,709 seek to strengthen that alliance. 1584 01:20:51,713 --> 01:20:55,553 So that would be, if you're looking for a reason to be 1585 01:20:55,550 --> 01:20:58,120 hopeful about the future of the U.S.-South Korea 1586 01:20:58,119 --> 01:21:01,359 alliance, that's what you would draw from, is the long 1587 01:21:01,356 --> 01:21:04,056 history in this country of Presidents in both parties 1588 01:21:04,059 --> 01:21:06,059 seeking to reinforce that alliance. 1589 01:21:06,061 --> 01:21:07,061 Is that something that 1590 01:21:07,062 --> 01:21:08,392 President-elect Trump will do? 1591 01:21:08,396 --> 01:21:09,796 I don't know. 1592 01:21:09,798 --> 01:21:11,168 We'll all find out. 1593 01:21:11,166 --> 01:21:13,436 The Press: So the President will be saying "I hope," not 1594 01:21:13,435 --> 01:21:14,235 "I assure"? 1595 01:21:14,236 --> 01:21:16,236 Mr. Earnest: Well, I think the President will say that 1596 01:21:16,238 --> 01:21:19,538 there is a long tradition -- there is reason to be 1597 01:21:19,541 --> 01:21:22,611 optimistic because we've seen Presidents in both 1598 01:21:22,611 --> 01:21:26,811 parties pursue a strong alliance with South Korea. 1599 01:21:26,815 --> 01:21:28,815 That's just the first example that 1600 01:21:28,817 --> 01:21:29,817 popped into my head. 1601 01:21:29,818 --> 01:21:32,558 I'm not singling them out for a specific reason. 1602 01:21:32,554 --> 01:21:35,124 Are some of those leaders likely to say, well, 1603 01:21:35,123 --> 01:21:37,123 Mr. Trump appears to be different than recent 1604 01:21:37,125 --> 01:21:39,465 Republican Presidents? 1605 01:21:39,461 --> 01:21:41,461 They wouldn't be wrong about that. 1606 01:21:41,463 --> 01:21:44,633 So the President can offer some measure of reassurance, 1607 01:21:44,633 --> 01:21:49,903 but ultimately the American people have chosen to give 1608 01:21:49,904 --> 01:21:51,904 President-elect Trump the responsibility for 1609 01:21:51,906 --> 01:21:52,906 figuring that out. 1610 01:21:52,907 --> 01:21:55,347 The Press: And just one quick logistical thing. 1611 01:21:55,343 --> 01:21:57,343 Do you expect a news conference tomorrow? 1612 01:21:57,345 --> 01:22:00,415 Mr. Earnest: Unclear at this point whether or not 1613 01:22:00,415 --> 01:22:02,985 President Obama will take questions, but we'll 1614 01:22:02,984 --> 01:22:05,484 keep you posted. 1615 01:22:05,487 --> 01:22:07,487 At a minimum, you can certainly expect that the 1616 01:22:07,489 --> 01:22:09,529 President will spend some time taking questions from 1617 01:22:09,524 --> 01:22:12,924 all of you over the course his trip overseas next week. 1618 01:22:12,927 --> 01:22:14,327 The Press: And ma tomorrow? 1619 01:22:14,329 --> 01:22:15,559 Mr. Earnest: Maybe tomorrow. 1620 01:22:15,563 --> 01:22:17,063 But we'll try and get you some clarity about that 1621 01:22:17,065 --> 01:22:18,265 before the end of the day. 1622 01:22:18,266 --> 01:22:19,836 The Press: Any expectation that President-elect Trump 1623 01:22:19,834 --> 01:22:21,204 would take questions? 1624 01:22:21,202 --> 01:22:21,802 Mr. Earnest: You'd have to check with his 1625 01:22:21,803 --> 01:22:25,303 team on that. Toluse. 1626 01:22:25,307 --> 01:22:27,677 The Press: On the topic of reassuring world leaders, 1627 01:22:27,676 --> 01:22:28,846 has the President actually reached out to 1628 01:22:28,843 --> 01:22:29,783 any world leaders? 1629 01:22:29,778 --> 01:22:31,478 Have any reached out to him since this 1630 01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:33,449 result has been known? 1631 01:22:33,448 --> 01:22:35,018 Since the President said earlier this year that 1632 01:22:35,016 --> 01:22:37,356 different world leaders are rattled by 1633 01:22:37,352 --> 01:22:39,352 Donald Trump's candidacy. 1634 01:22:39,354 --> 01:22:41,024 Mr. Earnest: When I walked out here, which was some 1635 01:22:41,022 --> 01:22:44,692 time ago now, I was not aware of any conversations 1636 01:22:44,693 --> 01:22:46,433 that President Obama had had with foreign leaders 1637 01:22:46,428 --> 01:22:47,828 at this point. 1638 01:22:47,829 --> 01:22:50,199 But if there are calls like that that we can read out, 1639 01:22:50,198 --> 01:22:51,338 we'll let you know. 1640 01:22:51,333 --> 01:22:53,833 I can't speak to who has reached out to the White 1641 01:22:53,835 --> 01:22:54,835 House or to the U.S. 1642 01:22:54,836 --> 01:22:56,936 government since last night. 1643 01:22:56,938 --> 01:22:58,938 I'll let those individual governments 1644 01:22:58,940 --> 01:22:59,940 speak for themselves. 1645 01:22:59,941 --> 01:23:03,641 As Christi alluded to, on the course of President 1646 01:23:03,645 --> 01:23:06,845 Obama's travels next week, he will have an opportunity 1647 01:23:06,848 --> 01:23:11,818 to see the leaders of many of the countries with whom 1648 01:23:11,820 --> 01:23:16,090 the United States has an important relationship. 1649 01:23:16,091 --> 01:23:19,261 And we'll have more details about that trip in the 1650 01:23:19,260 --> 01:23:20,860 next couple of days. 1651 01:23:20,862 --> 01:23:22,802 The Press: One of the countries that the President 1652 01:23:22,797 --> 01:23:24,867 will be visiting is Peru. 1653 01:23:24,866 --> 01:23:26,606 I wanted to ask about TPP. 1654 01:23:26,601 --> 01:23:29,101 I think there was I guess an idea that the lame duck 1655 01:23:29,104 --> 01:23:33,444 period would be focused on the President stumping for 1656 01:23:33,441 --> 01:23:36,781 and campaigning for TPP both publicly and 1657 01:23:36,778 --> 01:23:38,918 I guess with Congress. 1658 01:23:38,913 --> 01:23:44,053 Given the fact that this election has repudiated the 1659 01:23:44,052 --> 01:23:49,522 idea of trade with many nations, with Donald Trump's 1660 01:23:49,524 --> 01:23:53,494 victory, has that changed? 1661 01:23:53,495 --> 01:23:55,165 Is the President still going to stump for 1662 01:23:55,163 --> 01:23:56,563 TPP the same way? 1663 01:23:56,564 --> 01:23:58,304 Mr. Earnest: I guess, Toluse, the first 1664 01:23:58,299 --> 01:23:58,999 observation I would have is that this is a question 1665 01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:00,240 you'd be asking me regardless of the outcome of 1666 01:24:00,235 --> 01:24:02,975 the election last night, because obviously Secretary 1667 01:24:02,971 --> 01:24:05,241 Clinton's stated opposition to this has been well 1668 01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:06,140 covered, as well. 1669 01:24:11,112 --> 01:24:13,712 I think what I can say, in general -- well, the first 1670 01:24:13,715 --> 01:24:15,685 thing I can tell you is that President Obama did have an 1671 01:24:15,683 --> 01:24:18,683 opportunity earlier today to speak to Leader 1672 01:24:18,686 --> 01:24:20,986 McConnell on the phone. 1673 01:24:20,989 --> 01:24:22,989 The President is hopeful that he'll be able to 1674 01:24:22,991 --> 01:24:25,661 connect with Speaker Ryan at some point relatively soon, 1675 01:24:25,660 --> 01:24:28,960 and we'll let you know when that's occurred. 1676 01:24:28,963 --> 01:24:32,233 And they did have a conversation about the 1677 01:24:32,233 --> 01:24:34,233 outcome of the election, and President Obama did 1678 01:24:34,235 --> 01:24:37,975 congratulate Leader McConnell on his success in 1679 01:24:37,972 --> 01:24:40,412 retaining the title of Majority Leader in the 1680 01:24:40,408 --> 01:24:45,418 United States Senate, and they had an opportunity to 1681 01:24:47,449 --> 01:24:51,389 discuss some of the priorities for the 1682 01:24:51,386 --> 01:24:53,186 lame duck session. 1683 01:24:53,188 --> 01:24:55,658 I don't have a detailed readout to share, but 1684 01:24:55,657 --> 01:24:58,697 President Obama does continue to believe that 1685 01:24:58,693 --> 01:25:04,103 this is the best opportunity that the Congress has to 1686 01:25:04,098 --> 01:25:06,238 take advantage of the benefits of a Trans-Pacific 1687 01:25:06,234 --> 01:25:09,904 Partnership agreement that cuts taxes -- 18,000 taxes 1688 01:25:09,904 --> 01:25:12,674 that other countries impose on American products. 1689 01:25:12,674 --> 01:25:14,674 We've got a strong case to make with regard to the 1690 01:25:14,676 --> 01:25:17,646 Trans-Pacific Partnership, and we're going to encourage 1691 01:25:17,645 --> 01:25:20,985 Republican leaders to take it up and pass it because of 1692 01:25:20,982 --> 01:25:26,152 the enormous benefits that would accrue to American 1693 01:25:26,154 --> 01:25:27,494 workers, American businesses, 1694 01:25:27,489 --> 01:25:32,329 and the broader U.S. economy. Gregory. 1695 01:25:32,327 --> 01:25:35,627 The Press: Has the President ordered that President Trump 1696 01:25:35,630 --> 01:25:39,470 now receive the same full President's Daily Briefing 1697 01:25:39,467 --> 01:25:41,637 that he himself receives every day? 1698 01:25:41,636 --> 01:25:43,306 Mr. Earnest: Gregory, I can tell you that the 1699 01:25:46,307 --> 01:25:49,247 Presidential Daily Briefing and other intelligence 1700 01:25:49,244 --> 01:25:55,084 materials has been made available to President Trump 1701 01:25:55,083 --> 01:25:58,783 -- President-elect Trump, Vice President-elect Pence, 1702 01:25:58,786 --> 01:26:03,996 and a couple of designated members of his team. 1703 01:26:03,992 --> 01:26:06,962 This is a courtesy that President Bush extended to 1704 01:26:06,961 --> 01:26:09,101 President-elect Obama, Vice President-elect Biden, and a 1705 01:26:09,097 --> 01:26:13,907 couple of designated members of their team. 1706 01:26:13,902 --> 01:26:19,272 This is an important part of ensuring the kind of smooth 1707 01:26:19,274 --> 01:26:23,314 transition that President Obama has prioritized. 1708 01:26:23,311 --> 01:26:25,451 The Press: And it's the same briefing that 1709 01:26:25,446 --> 01:26:26,746 he himself receives? 1710 01:26:26,748 --> 01:26:30,918 Mr. Earnest: I can't speak to the nature of the 1711 01:26:30,919 --> 01:26:33,359 information that is presented, so I'd check 1712 01:26:33,354 --> 01:26:34,354 with the DNI. 1713 01:26:34,355 --> 01:26:38,225 But the idea here is that the President-elect and the 1714 01:26:38,226 --> 01:26:41,196 Vice President-elect and some of their key national 1715 01:26:41,195 --> 01:26:44,195 security advisors -- just a couple of designated 1716 01:26:44,198 --> 01:26:46,498 officials -- can begin to get access to the kind of 1717 01:26:46,501 --> 01:26:49,341 material that they will need to make important foreign 1718 01:26:49,337 --> 01:26:52,537 policy decisions once President 1719 01:26:52,540 --> 01:26:53,540 Trump takes office. 1720 01:26:53,541 --> 01:26:55,541 The Press: Following up on Jordan's question about 1721 01:26:55,543 --> 01:26:58,013 pardons for Secretary Clinton, specifically, but 1722 01:26:58,012 --> 01:27:00,012 also generally, the President was asked about 1723 01:27:00,014 --> 01:27:03,114 this in August, about last-minute pardons, and he 1724 01:27:03,117 --> 01:27:05,187 said that any last-minute pardons would have to go 1725 01:27:05,186 --> 01:27:07,586 through the Office of Pardon Attorney, through the White 1726 01:27:07,589 --> 01:27:10,289 House Counsel, through the regular process, and that 1727 01:27:10,291 --> 01:27:14,291 all pardons would be based on merit and 1728 01:27:14,295 --> 01:27:16,365 not political considerations. 1729 01:27:16,364 --> 01:27:20,904 Does that guidance still stand? 1730 01:27:20,902 --> 01:27:24,542 And wouldn't that preclude the President from giving a 1731 01:27:24,539 --> 01:27:27,439 last-minute pardon to Secretary Clinton? 1732 01:27:27,442 --> 01:27:28,612 Mr. Earnest: Well, I remember when you had an 1733 01:27:28,610 --> 01:27:31,580 opportunity to ask President Obama about this at the 1734 01:27:31,579 --> 01:27:33,749 Pentagon earlier this summer. 1735 01:27:33,748 --> 01:27:36,088 And the answer that President Obama gave you in 1736 01:27:36,084 --> 01:27:38,924 that news conference still applies. 1737 01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:42,320 I wouldn't speculate at this point about what impact that 1738 01:27:42,323 --> 01:27:47,433 may have on hypothetical pardon requests 1739 01:27:47,428 --> 01:27:49,268 that he receives. 1740 01:27:49,263 --> 01:27:50,703 I'll just say that the guidance that President 1741 01:27:50,698 --> 01:27:53,568 Obama shared with you is still operative. 1742 01:27:55,036 --> 01:27:57,006 The Press: And is the Cleveland Cavaliers event 1743 01:27:57,005 --> 01:27:58,075 still on for tomorrow? 1744 01:27:58,072 --> 01:27:59,872 Mr. Earnest: Absolutely. 1745 01:27:59,874 --> 01:28:00,774 Andrew. 1746 01:28:00,775 --> 01:28:01,845 The Press: The President said he was encouraged by 1747 01:28:01,843 --> 01:28:03,513 some of the things that he's heard from Donald Trump over 1748 01:28:03,511 --> 01:28:05,411 the last couple of about 24 hours. 1749 01:28:05,413 --> 01:28:09,183 Does the President have confidence that Donald Trump 1750 01:28:09,183 --> 01:28:12,453 will respect the rule of law? 1751 01:28:12,453 --> 01:28:15,923 Mr. Earnest: Well, Andrew, I think at this point what 1752 01:28:15,923 --> 01:28:18,623 President Obama is responding to is the tone 1753 01:28:18,626 --> 01:28:22,166 that President-elect Trump displayed at 1754 01:28:22,163 --> 01:28:23,733 his event last night. 1755 01:28:23,731 --> 01:28:29,601 And the significance of that is that Mr. Trump had to 1756 01:28:29,604 --> 01:28:32,474 make a conscious decision -- President-elect Trump had to 1757 01:28:32,473 --> 01:28:36,373 make a conscious decision about the tone that he was 1758 01:28:36,377 --> 01:28:42,187 going to use in speaking to not just to supporters in 1759 01:28:42,183 --> 01:28:45,383 the ballroom, but also the millions of Americans 1760 01:28:45,386 --> 01:28:49,156 watching on TV and the tens of millions of people 1761 01:28:49,157 --> 01:28:51,097 watching around the world. 1762 01:28:51,092 --> 01:28:52,092 It's a high-stakes moment. 1763 01:28:52,093 --> 01:28:55,433 It was an opportunity for President-elect Trump to 1764 01:28:55,430 --> 01:28:56,430 make an impression. 1765 01:28:56,431 --> 01:28:59,371 And I'm confident that he was aware of that. 1766 01:28:59,367 --> 01:29:04,377 And at that moment, he chose to adopt a tone that seems 1767 01:29:09,377 --> 01:29:15,417 generally familiar to people who have been watching 1768 01:29:15,416 --> 01:29:19,656 Presidents-elect at Election Night events. 1769 01:29:22,390 --> 01:29:27,400 That would seem to suggest that certain basic 1770 01:29:29,797 --> 01:29:34,807 principles of our democracy are likely to be upheld. 1771 01:29:41,275 --> 01:29:46,285 Certainly one of those principles is ensuring that 1772 01:29:49,183 --> 01:29:52,023 criminal investigations and our criminal justice system 1773 01:29:52,019 --> 01:29:58,059 is not infected with partisan politics. 1774 01:29:58,059 --> 01:30:00,059 The question is, really, whether or not that 1775 01:30:00,061 --> 01:30:03,001 tone will persist. 1776 01:30:02,997 --> 01:30:05,437 And I'm sure that President Obama won't be the 1777 01:30:05,433 --> 01:30:06,433 only one watching. 1778 01:30:06,434 --> 01:30:10,304 The Press: Do the results of the election alter the 1779 01:30:10,304 --> 01:30:12,544 President's post-presidency plans? 1780 01:30:12,540 --> 01:30:18,580 I mean, is he likely to remain more in the public 1781 01:30:18,579 --> 01:30:20,979 eye after this than he would have otherwise done had 1782 01:30:20,982 --> 01:30:24,052 Hillary Clinton won? 1783 01:30:24,051 --> 01:30:25,621 Mr. Earnest: Look, again, the election results are 1784 01:30:25,620 --> 01:30:26,720 barely 12 hours old. 1785 01:30:26,721 --> 01:30:33,191 But in those 12 hours, I'm not aware of any change or 1786 01:30:33,194 --> 01:30:36,164 reconsideration that the President has made about his 1787 01:30:36,164 --> 01:30:42,604 post-presidency plans other than the likelihood that he 1788 01:30:42,603 --> 01:30:45,103 probably is looking forward to his post-presidential 1789 01:30:45,106 --> 01:30:47,076 vacation now more than ever. 1790 01:30:48,843 --> 01:30:49,513 Yes, ma'am. 1791 01:30:49,510 --> 01:30:50,440 The Press: Thank you. 1792 01:30:50,444 --> 01:30:55,084 I'm correspondent from Afghanistan. 1793 01:30:55,082 --> 01:30:56,022 Mr. Earnest: Nice to see you. 1794 01:30:56,017 --> 01:30:57,587 The Press: Thank you. 1795 01:30:57,585 --> 01:31:00,925 I would like to ask you, how does the White House 1796 01:31:00,922 --> 01:31:03,122 transfer the Afghanistan policy to 1797 01:31:03,124 --> 01:31:04,594 the next President? 1798 01:31:04,592 --> 01:31:06,332 Do you think that Afghanistan people or Afghan 1799 01:31:06,327 --> 01:31:09,227 people should have a high expectation from 1800 01:31:09,230 --> 01:31:11,730 the new President? 1801 01:31:11,732 --> 01:31:13,872 Do you think that any change on the 1802 01:31:13,868 --> 01:31:15,708 policy towards Afghanistan? 1803 01:31:15,703 --> 01:31:19,073 Mr. Earnest: Well, listen, I will confess that I don't 1804 01:31:19,073 --> 01:31:23,213 recall having heard President-elect Trump speak 1805 01:31:23,211 --> 01:31:26,511 extensively about his view of U.S. 1806 01:31:26,514 --> 01:31:28,984 policy toward Afghanistan. 1807 01:31:28,983 --> 01:31:30,983 Some of your colleagues in the press corps here may 1808 01:31:30,985 --> 01:31:33,555 have covered the debates or other events with Mr. Trump 1809 01:31:33,554 --> 01:31:36,054 more closely and they can fill you in on that. 1810 01:31:36,057 --> 01:31:38,057 But it's not clear to me exactly what sort of 1811 01:31:38,059 --> 01:31:41,099 preferences or views he has articulated with regard to 1812 01:31:41,095 --> 01:31:43,665 our policy toward Afghanistan. 1813 01:31:43,664 --> 01:31:46,134 I would put this in the category of other important 1814 01:31:46,133 --> 01:31:48,133 foreign policy decisions that the next President 1815 01:31:48,135 --> 01:31:49,475 will have to make. 1816 01:31:49,470 --> 01:31:54,310 And to ensure that he is effectively positioned to 1817 01:31:54,308 --> 01:31:56,948 make a good, smart decision that's consistent with our 1818 01:31:56,944 --> 01:32:00,144 national interest, President Obama and his national 1819 01:32:00,147 --> 01:32:03,347 security team will ensure that President-elect Trump 1820 01:32:03,351 --> 01:32:08,291 and his team have access to all of the information 1821 01:32:08,289 --> 01:32:13,559 that's necessary to make future decisions about U.S. 1822 01:32:13,561 --> 01:32:15,561 policy in that region of the world. 1823 01:32:15,563 --> 01:32:19,963 This is obviously the kind of decisions that the next 1824 01:32:19,967 --> 01:32:22,007 President will make that will have a significant 1825 01:32:22,003 --> 01:32:24,343 impact on our foreign policy and will have a significant 1826 01:32:24,338 --> 01:32:26,778 impact on the thousands of U.S. 1827 01:32:26,774 --> 01:32:30,074 servicemembers that are currently serving in 1828 01:32:30,077 --> 01:32:32,977 Afghanistan and countering the threats that emanate 1829 01:32:32,980 --> 01:32:33,980 from Afghanistan. 1830 01:32:33,981 --> 01:32:37,051 So the stakes of that decision are high. 1831 01:32:37,051 --> 01:32:39,121 The kind of decisions that have to be made in that 1832 01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:41,160 environment are not obvious. 1833 01:32:41,155 --> 01:32:43,995 But the next President will certainly benefit from the 1834 01:32:43,991 --> 01:32:50,801 kind of informed, carefully considered advice from 1835 01:32:50,798 --> 01:32:52,798 leaders in our military, leaders in our diplomatic 1836 01:32:52,800 --> 01:32:54,800 corps, leaders in our intelligence community that 1837 01:32:54,802 --> 01:32:59,712 have been very focused on U.S. 1838 01:32:59,707 --> 01:33:02,847 policy in Afghanistan. 1839 01:33:02,843 --> 01:33:04,343 John Decker. 1840 01:33:04,345 --> 01:33:04,915 The Press: Thanks a lot, Josh. 1841 01:33:04,912 --> 01:33:09,352 The President today in the Rose Garden praised the 1842 01:33:09,350 --> 01:33:11,990 transition model that was put forward by former 1843 01:33:11,986 --> 01:33:13,526 President George W. 1844 01:33:13,521 --> 01:33:15,461 Bush, said that's the transition model that he'd 1845 01:33:15,456 --> 01:33:17,226 like to follow. 1846 01:33:17,224 --> 01:33:20,494 As it relates to not only President George W. 1847 01:33:20,494 --> 01:33:23,864 Bush's post-presidency model, but also Bill 1848 01:33:23,864 --> 01:33:27,634 Clinton's post-presidency model, George H.W. 1849 01:33:27,635 --> 01:33:31,605 Bush's post-presidency model, they've refrained 1850 01:33:31,605 --> 01:33:35,275 from criticizing their successors. 1851 01:33:35,276 --> 01:33:38,516 Would President Obama also follow that same model -- 1852 01:33:38,512 --> 01:33:43,482 refrain from criticizing President Trump and his 1853 01:33:43,484 --> 01:33:48,494 policies once President Obama is a former President? 1854 01:33:48,489 --> 01:33:50,929 Mr. Earnest: Listen, I don't think I can say anything 1855 01:33:50,925 --> 01:33:53,065 declarative about that question. 1856 01:33:57,665 --> 01:34:00,235 Presumably that's something that between now and January 1857 01:34:00,234 --> 01:34:03,034 20th you or one of your colleagues could ask him. 1858 01:34:03,037 --> 01:34:05,037 I think what I can tell you is that I've heard him say 1859 01:34:05,039 --> 01:34:09,749 -- and I believe he said this in public -- he has 1860 01:34:09,744 --> 01:34:15,584 appreciated how, particularly early in his 1861 01:34:15,583 --> 01:34:20,153 presidency, former President George W. 1862 01:34:20,154 --> 01:34:25,164 Bush was not a regular, active, public presence, 1863 01:34:31,165 --> 01:34:33,135 offering his critique of the new President. 1864 01:34:37,004 --> 01:34:41,874 And President Obama believes that that was not just 1865 01:34:41,876 --> 01:34:44,446 beneficial to his ability to run the country and make 1866 01:34:44,445 --> 01:34:49,785 difficult decisions; I think it also reveals the 1867 01:34:49,784 --> 01:34:54,754 character of our 43rd President. 1868 01:34:57,224 --> 01:35:02,364 Surely, I'm confident in saying that President 1869 01:35:02,363 --> 01:35:03,533 George W. Bush did 1870 01:35:03,531 --> 01:35:05,531 not agree with every decision that 1871 01:35:05,533 --> 01:35:07,973 President Obama made in his first year or two in office. 1872 01:35:10,504 --> 01:35:17,414 But he kept his disagreements to himself. 1873 01:35:17,411 --> 01:35:21,081 And I know that President Obama has appreciated 1874 01:35:23,918 --> 01:35:27,858 President Bush taking that step to give the incoming 1875 01:35:27,855 --> 01:35:31,995 President the running room necessary to make decisions, 1876 01:35:31,992 --> 01:35:35,762 to advocate them for them publicly in a way that would 1877 01:35:35,763 --> 01:35:39,463 have been much more difficult if the recently 1878 01:35:39,467 --> 01:35:42,607 departed President was critiquing his every move. 1879 01:35:42,603 --> 01:35:45,673 The Press: I wanted to ask about the relationship -- 1880 01:35:45,673 --> 01:35:49,743 it's an unusual relationship, in a way, that 1881 01:35:49,743 --> 01:35:53,983 President Obama has had with the President-elect. 1882 01:35:53,981 --> 01:35:57,151 I say that because early on in the President's tenure as 1883 01:35:57,151 --> 01:36:01,961 President, as you may recall, the President-elect 1884 01:36:01,956 --> 01:36:05,596 questioned the citizenship of President Obama. 1885 01:36:05,593 --> 01:36:06,763 Mr. Earnest: I do recall that. 1886 01:36:06,760 --> 01:36:10,130 The Press: And then a short time after that, the 1887 01:36:10,131 --> 01:36:14,601 President famously went after, you could say, the 1888 01:36:14,602 --> 01:36:17,402 President-elect at a Correspondents' Dinner, 1889 01:36:17,404 --> 01:36:19,344 brought a lot of laughter. 1890 01:36:19,340 --> 01:36:21,040 I realize that -- Mr. Earnest: From almost 1891 01:36:21,041 --> 01:36:21,571 everybody in the room. 1892 01:36:21,575 --> 01:36:23,875 (Laughter.) 1893 01:36:23,878 --> 01:36:25,248 The Press: -- I realize that the election 1894 01:36:25,246 --> 01:36:29,046 is so fresh, but has the President had time to be 1895 01:36:29,049 --> 01:36:34,559 introspective in the sense that the person that he's 1896 01:36:34,555 --> 01:36:37,455 had this unusual type of relationship -- from afar, 1897 01:36:37,458 --> 01:36:42,828 essentially -- is now succeeding him as President? 1898 01:36:42,830 --> 01:36:48,440 Mr. Earnest: Well, it's not news to observe that 1899 01:36:48,435 --> 01:36:53,205 President-elect Trump and President Obama have deep, 1900 01:36:53,207 --> 01:36:57,877 longstanding, and public disagreements on a wide 1901 01:36:57,878 --> 01:37:02,118 range of issues, including with regard to some of the 1902 01:37:02,116 --> 01:37:06,416 tactics and rhetoric that the President-elect used on 1903 01:37:06,420 --> 01:37:08,660 the campaign trail. 1904 01:37:08,656 --> 01:37:12,026 The President was quite outspoken about that in the 1905 01:37:12,026 --> 01:37:15,326 context of this election. 1906 01:37:15,329 --> 01:37:16,329 But the election is over. 1907 01:37:16,330 --> 01:37:18,330 The American people made a decision. 1908 01:37:18,332 --> 01:37:20,372 President Obama didn't get to choose his successor; the 1909 01:37:20,367 --> 01:37:21,837 American people did. 1910 01:37:21,835 --> 01:37:25,175 And President Obama's responsibility now is to 1911 01:37:25,172 --> 01:37:27,912 ensure that the incoming President, no matter how 1912 01:37:27,908 --> 01:37:30,848 significant their disagreements, can get off 1913 01:37:30,844 --> 01:37:32,514 to a running start. 1914 01:37:32,513 --> 01:37:35,753 And President Obama, including in his capacity as 1915 01:37:35,749 --> 01:37:41,459 a former President, will genuinely be rooting for 1916 01:37:41,455 --> 01:37:43,955 President Trump's success in uniting 1917 01:37:43,958 --> 01:37:44,958 and leading this country. 1918 01:37:44,959 --> 01:37:47,859 The Press: Have President Obama and President-elect 1919 01:37:47,861 --> 01:37:50,901 Donald Trump actually met fact-to-face before, or will 1920 01:37:50,898 --> 01:37:52,898 this be their very first meeting? 1921 01:37:52,900 --> 01:37:54,900 Mr. Earnest: I believe that they had one other 1922 01:37:54,902 --> 01:37:57,542 opportunity where they were at a public event together. 1923 01:38:02,309 --> 01:38:04,309 Off the top of my head, I don't remember where that 1924 01:38:04,311 --> 01:38:09,851 was, but I feel like they may have had one. 1925 01:38:09,850 --> 01:38:14,150 But I guess what I would say is this: They do not have an 1926 01:38:14,154 --> 01:38:15,924 extensive personal relationship. 1927 01:38:15,923 --> 01:38:17,593 (Laughter.) 1928 01:38:17,591 --> 01:38:19,861 This is not a situation where they've had 1929 01:38:19,860 --> 01:38:24,430 many conversations or played golf together or 1930 01:38:24,431 --> 01:38:28,641 any of that business. 1931 01:38:28,636 --> 01:38:33,336 So I guess that will be among the many, many, many 1932 01:38:33,340 --> 01:38:35,340 reasons that tomorrow's meeting will be rather 1933 01:38:35,342 --> 01:38:36,712 interesting. Okay? 1934 01:38:36,710 --> 01:38:39,180 Chris, I'll give you the last one. 1935 01:38:39,179 --> 01:38:39,949 The Press: Thanks, Josh. 1936 01:38:39,947 --> 01:38:42,317 I think there's a lot of fear among LGBT people and 1937 01:38:42,316 --> 01:38:43,716 others who've seen progress under the Obama 1938 01:38:43,717 --> 01:38:46,087 administration, like Muslims and immigrants, that they'll 1939 01:38:46,086 --> 01:38:48,386 face persecution under President Trump. 1940 01:38:48,389 --> 01:38:50,859 What is President Obama's message to them? 1941 01:38:50,858 --> 01:38:52,958 Mr. Earnest: President Obama's message to them is 1942 01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:59,430 that our country has benefited from a steadfast 1943 01:38:59,433 --> 01:39:06,273 commitment to a set of democratic institutions, and 1944 01:39:06,273 --> 01:39:13,543 these institutions have been durable even through a civil 1945 01:39:13,547 --> 01:39:16,887 war, through a couple of world wars, through 1946 01:39:16,884 --> 01:39:18,654 financial calamities. 1947 01:39:20,654 --> 01:39:23,894 And the President has enormous confidence and 1948 01:39:23,891 --> 01:39:27,061 faith in those institutions, in part because those 1949 01:39:27,061 --> 01:39:30,631 institutions are made up of patriotic Americans. 1950 01:39:30,631 --> 01:39:32,671 That's true whether we're talking about public 1951 01:39:32,666 --> 01:39:38,076 servants who are employees of the federal government or 1952 01:39:38,072 --> 01:39:40,072 the brave men and women of our armed forces. 1953 01:39:42,443 --> 01:39:46,743 Those institutions serve the American people well, and 1954 01:39:46,747 --> 01:39:50,117 it's important for our leaders to demonstrate faith 1955 01:39:50,117 --> 01:39:52,117 in them and to rely on them. 1956 01:39:56,256 --> 01:39:59,556 That faith in those institutions has served very 1957 01:39:59,560 --> 01:40:03,630 well some of our country's greatest Presidents. 1958 01:40:03,630 --> 01:40:05,770 The other observation that President Obama would make 1959 01:40:05,766 --> 01:40:12,306 -- and he did so in the Rose Garden -- is that progress 1960 01:40:12,306 --> 01:40:17,276 in our country hasn't moved along a straight line, and 1961 01:40:17,277 --> 01:40:23,247 progress that we make in some of these areas is 1962 01:40:23,250 --> 01:40:27,920 characterized by two steps forward and one step back. 1963 01:40:27,921 --> 01:40:33,961 Sometimes it's characterized by delayed progress. 1964 01:40:33,961 --> 01:40:39,901 The observation that President Obama would make 1965 01:40:39,900 --> 01:40:43,870 is that the best response to that is not to lose hope or 1966 01:40:43,871 --> 01:40:50,241 to be cynical or to withdraw from the public discourse. 1967 01:40:50,244 --> 01:40:53,744 It actually calls for greater engagement. 1968 01:40:56,150 --> 01:40:58,620 It calls for more people who passionately and strongly 1969 01:40:58,619 --> 01:41:01,719 about these issues to stand up for what they believe in. 1970 01:41:04,291 --> 01:41:07,531 Secretary Clinton, I think, put it best: It's worth 1971 01:41:07,528 --> 01:41:10,028 fighting for what's right. 1972 01:41:10,030 --> 01:41:12,630 She's certainly done that throughout her three-decade 1973 01:41:12,633 --> 01:41:16,273 career in public life. 1974 01:41:16,270 --> 01:41:18,310 And it's something that President Obama has 1975 01:41:18,305 --> 01:41:20,805 certainly done not just while he's held elective 1976 01:41:20,808 --> 01:41:25,308 office but even before he entered elective office and 1977 01:41:25,312 --> 01:41:30,882 that's a -- I think it should be -- well, let me 1978 01:41:30,884 --> 01:41:33,624 say it this way: I think Secretary Clinton intended 1979 01:41:33,620 --> 01:41:39,090 that as very good advice for people who may be feeling 1980 01:41:39,092 --> 01:41:41,332 discouraged today. 1981 01:41:41,328 --> 01:41:43,528 And it's understandable that people are feeling 1982 01:41:43,530 --> 01:41:48,670 discouraged because it's natural that you're going to 1983 01:41:48,669 --> 01:41:50,669 be disappointed when the candidate that you supported 1984 01:41:50,671 --> 01:41:51,671 in the election doesn't win. 1985 01:41:51,672 --> 01:41:57,612 But even the losing candidate in this case does 1986 01:41:57,611 --> 01:42:00,511 not think that that should be used as an excuse to 1987 01:42:00,514 --> 01:42:02,784 withdraw from the public debate and public discourse. 1988 01:42:02,783 --> 01:42:05,623 If anything, it should serve as a motivation to become 1989 01:42:05,619 --> 01:42:07,659 even more deeply engaged and more deeply involved, and 1990 01:42:07,654 --> 01:42:10,494 not just in a presidential election. 1991 01:42:10,491 --> 01:42:11,121 The Press: And I have a variation 1992 01:42:11,124 --> 01:42:12,324 on the firewall question. 1993 01:42:12,326 --> 01:42:15,226 Many of these advancements for LGBT people and others 1994 01:42:15,229 --> 01:42:16,199 are the result of executive action 1995 01:42:16,196 --> 01:42:19,136 undertaken by the President. 1996 01:42:19,132 --> 01:42:20,772 Is there anything the White House can do to protect them 1997 01:42:20,767 --> 01:42:24,267 in the next administration? 1998 01:42:24,271 --> 01:42:27,171 Mr. Earnest: Well, again, I won't speculate at this 1999 01:42:27,174 --> 01:42:29,244 point about what President-elect Trump 2000 01:42:29,243 --> 01:42:30,743 may or may not do. 2001 01:42:30,744 --> 01:42:36,654 Every time the President has initiated a decision or made 2002 01:42:36,650 --> 01:42:39,950 a policy decision or taken an executive action, he's 2003 01:42:39,953 --> 01:42:43,323 done so with a long-term perspective. 2004 01:42:45,392 --> 01:42:49,592 His approach to policy-making has been to be 2005 01:42:49,596 --> 01:42:51,766 cognizant of the long-term implications of the 2006 01:42:51,765 --> 01:42:54,465 decisions that he's making, and it means that he is 2007 01:42:54,468 --> 01:42:56,768 making these decisions with the assumption that the 2008 01:42:56,770 --> 01:42:59,570 decisions will be durable, that they'll be in place for 2009 01:42:59,573 --> 01:43:02,013 some time, and that benefits that the American people 2010 01:43:02,009 --> 01:43:06,649 will enjoy as a result of those decisions will be 2011 01:43:06,647 --> 01:43:09,747 present for a long time. 2012 01:43:09,750 --> 01:43:11,750 So that's been approach since his 2013 01:43:11,752 --> 01:43:13,752 first day in office. 2014 01:43:15,789 --> 01:43:18,059 But ultimately the approach that President-elect Trump 2015 01:43:18,058 --> 01:43:21,828 takes is one that he alone will determine. 2016 01:43:21,828 --> 01:43:22,828 Thanks, everybody. 2017 01:43:22,829 --> 01:43:23,829 We'll see you tomorrow.