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1 00:00:05,700 --> 00:00:11,551 Well, hello everyone, welcome to a... 2 00:00:11,551 --> 00:00:14,871 to the presentation of ten years Alemannic Wikipedia, 3 00:00:14,871 --> 00:00:21,102 I will give a short overview of 4 00:00:21,102 --> 00:00:24,189 the Alemannic Wikipedia, the history 5 00:00:24,189 --> 00:00:27,260 of the last ten years, and afterwards 6 00:00:27,260 --> 00:00:30,582 the award ceremony of the third 7 00:00:30,582 --> 00:00:33,060 Alemannic writing contest, of the third 8 00:00:33,060 --> 00:00:39,144 WikiConcours will take place here, and we will also a... 9 00:00:39,144 --> 00:00:44,908 ... the winner article will be read out, too. 10 00:00:44,908 --> 00:00:49,505 What is the Alemannic Wikipedia? 11 00:00:49,505 --> 00:00:50,345 12 00:00:50,345 --> 00:00:53,341 Here I have a map of Central Europe 13 00:00:53,341 --> 00:00:56,023 and there I have drawn in all languages, 14 00:00:56,023 --> 00:00:57,988 small, regional languages, dialects which 15 00:00:57,988 --> 00:01:00,021 aren't official written languages, or 16 00:01:00,021 --> 00:01:03,107 at least not the most important official written language, 17 00:01:03,107 --> 00:01:08,268 and in which a Wikipedia exists. And as one can see here, 18 00:01:08,268 --> 00:01:13,104 in the very centre of Europe lies "als", the Alemannic 19 00:01:13,104 --> 00:01:17,145 language area, it's reaching over six European countries, 20 00:01:17,145 --> 00:01:19,784 France, Germany, Switzerland, Austria, 21 00:01:19,784 --> 00:01:23,057 Liechtenstein, and Italy, and we had 22 00:01:23,057 --> 00:01:25,304 in the last ten years indeed authors 23 00:01:25,304 --> 00:01:32,105 from all these six countries. 24 00:01:32,105 --> 00:01:35,271 On this page there's a short overview 25 00:01:35,271 --> 00:01:36,100 26 00:01:36,100 --> 00:01:40,874 of the ten years. The Alemannic Wikipedia started in 2003 27 00:01:40,874 --> 00:01:44,668 as Alsatian Wikipedia. It was an Alsatian from Strasbourg, 28 00:01:44,668 --> 00:01:48,353 back then, he had asked on the mailing list 29 00:01:48,353 --> 00:01:51,745 if it were possible to have a Wikipedia 30 00:01:51,745 --> 00:01:54,461 in his native language, in Alsatian... 31 00:01:54,461 --> 00:01:57,314 immediately there started, as always with Wikipedians, 32 00:01:57,314 --> 00:02:00,544 a heated discussion: do we now also need 33 00:02:00,544 --> 00:02:03,101 Wikipedia in dialects and so on, and 34 00:02:03,101 --> 00:02:06,270 Jimmy Wales himself then said "Yes, we'll do that." 35 00:02:06,270 --> 00:02:10,387 And so, on November 13, 2003, the 36 00:02:10,387 --> 00:02:14,988 Alsatian Wikipedia went online. 37 00:02:14,988 --> 00:02:20,621 I hope the camera finds me when I walk around (laughs) 38 00:02:20,621 --> 00:02:24,587 However, not a lot happened in the first year 39 00:02:24,587 --> 00:02:28,388 and after a year this Alsatian Wikipedia 40 00:02:28,388 --> 00:02:31,947 was discovered by other authors, other Wikipedians 41 00:02:31,947 --> 00:02:34,462 who came not from Alsace, but 42 00:02:34,462 --> 00:02:37,704 from South Baden, from the Allgäu, from Switzerland, 43 00:02:37,704 --> 00:02:40,901 and they asked if it were possible 44 00:02:40,901 --> 00:02:43,021 for them to participate. 45 00:02:43,021 --> 00:02:47,346 And this led to an exciting discussion. 46 00:02:47,346 --> 00:02:51,226 Immediately there was the question, well, who may particiapte, 47 00:02:51,226 --> 00:02:53,504 should all the Alemannic dialects, do we need 48 00:02:53,504 --> 00:02:56,514 then an Alemannic written language at all... 49 00:02:56,514 --> 00:03:06,030 and over the years there were many dialects 50 00:03:06,030 --> 00:03:10,834 used in a great variety of articles. 51 00:03:10,834 --> 00:03:15,951 And today we have articles from 52 00:03:15,951 --> 00:03:19,945 all the dialect areas of the Alemannic language area. 53 00:03:19,945 --> 00:03:25,342 As early as 2005 there were first media reports, 54 00:03:25,342 --> 00:03:28,031 the "Badische Zeitung" started it back then, 55 00:03:28,031 --> 00:03:30,383 over the years there were more newspapers 56 00:03:30,383 --> 00:03:33,300 reporting on the Alemannic Wikipedia. 57 00:03:33,300 --> 00:03:38,187 In 2006 the first author's meetup took place, 58 00:03:38,187 --> 00:03:41,503 it's shown here, I don't want to read it out in detail 59 00:03:41,503 --> 00:03:43,828 what happened in detail, 60 00:03:43,828 --> 00:03:49,748 I will go further into some of these items later. 61 00:03:49,748 --> 00:03:53,067 Maybe regarding the... regarding Johann Peter Hebel, 62 00:03:53,067 --> 00:03:56,593 Johann Peter Hebel is considered the author 63 00:03:56,593 --> 00:04:00,742 who for the first... not for the first time used 64 00:04:00,742 --> 00:04:04,342 Alemannic dialects in poetry, but with him came the breakthrough 65 00:04:04,342 --> 00:04:08,070 for dialect literature in the German-speaking area. 66 00:04:08,070 --> 00:04:12,631 And in 2010 was his 250th birthday and we had 67 00:04:12,631 --> 00:04:16,587 for a month many activities for the birthday 68 00:04:16,587 --> 00:04:20,020 of Johann Peter Hebel. In 2011, 69 00:04:20,020 --> 00:04:22,593 on the occasion of the ten-thousandth article there was the 70 00:04:22,593 --> 00:04:27,101 first writing contest, and now on occasion of the tenth 71 00:04:27,101 --> 00:04:30,783 anniversary we also had for a month activities 72 00:04:30,783 --> 00:04:32,623 around the anniversary. 73 00:04:32,623 --> 00:04:37,584 One of these is here in this moment. 74 00:04:37,584 --> 00:04:41,860 Why has the Alemannic Wikipedia the abbreviation "als"? 75 00:04:41,860 --> 00:04:45,748 "als" is the language code for Tosk Albanian, that is 76 00:04:45,748 --> 00:04:49,862 a regional dialect of Albanian, it means 77 00:04:49,862 --> 00:04:55,898 "Albanian South" and just not the language code 78 00:04:55,898 --> 00:04:59,314 for Alemannic. Now, in 2003 the 79 00:04:59,314 --> 00:05:01,592 Language Committee wasn't founded yet, 80 00:05:01,592 --> 00:05:04,867 the use of the language code wasn't 81 00:05:04,867 --> 00:05:09,506 mandatory, the use of the ISO 639 code, 82 00:05:09,506 --> 00:05:13,666 and back then no code for Alsatian existed. 83 00:05:13,666 --> 00:05:16,551 There was "gsw" for Schwyzerdütsch [Swiss German], but 84 00:05:16,551 --> 00:05:21,062 back then Alsatian was expressly not included. 85 00:05:21,062 --> 00:05:24,947 And so quickly arose the idea: 86 00:05:24,947 --> 00:05:29,704 well, let's take "als" and if the 87 00:05:29,704 --> 00:05:33,462 speakers of Tosk Albanian some day also want their 88 00:05:33,462 --> 00:05:35,786 Wikipedia, well then we think 89 00:05:35,786 --> 00:05:43,665 of something else. Nowadays, since 2008, there 90 00:05:43,665 --> 00:05:46,674 are four language codes for different Alemannic regions, 91 00:05:46,674 --> 00:05:50,948 there is "gsw", that is for 92 00:05:50,948 --> 00:05:54,432 Schwyzerdütsch [Swiss German], for Alsatian and for the 93 00:05:54,432 --> 00:05:56,502 dialects in South Baden, 94 00:05:56,502 --> 00:05:58,703 there is an individual language code for Swabian, 95 00:05:58,703 --> 00:06:01,072 an individual language code for Walserdütsch [Walser German], 96 00:06:01,072 --> 00:06:03,741 and there is an individual language code for the 97 00:06:03,741 --> 00:06:08,063 Colonia Tovar in Venezuela. However, this is not 98 00:06:08,063 --> 00:06:10,387 the classification of linguists for 99 00:06:10,387 --> 00:06:14,271 Alemannic dialects. According to the 100 00:06:14,271 --> 00:06:16,471 present rules of the language code one could 101 00:06:16,471 --> 00:06:20,264 create these four Wikipedias if users wanted to, 102 00:06:20,264 --> 00:06:24,823 we also have written a proposal to the SIL 103 00:06:24,823 --> 00:06:26,984 in Canada to change the language codes, 104 00:06:26,984 --> 00:06:30,431 because they don't reflect the state of scientific knowledge, 105 00:06:30,431 --> 00:06:35,260 they refused this right away... 106 00:06:35,260 --> 00:06:39,855 ... and however, not long ago on the Incubator there 107 00:06:39,855 --> 00:06:42,271 was a decision: There was one who wanted to start a Swabian 108 00:06:42,271 --> 00:06:45,146 Wikipedia, and there it was 109 00:06:45,146 --> 00:06:47,826 decided on the Incubator that all these articles 110 00:06:47,826 --> 00:06:51,149 will be imported to us, and on the Incubator 111 00:06:51,149 --> 00:06:54,143 this Swabian Wikipedia was closed then. 112 00:06:54,143 --> 00:06:58,111 Anyway we always had much more Swabian 113 00:06:58,111 --> 00:07:02,430 articles. And a real language code 114 00:07:02,430 --> 00:07:07,621 for all Alemannic dialects doesn't exist to this day. 115 00:07:07,621 --> 00:07:12,509 What are the peculiarities of the spelling of 116 00:07:12,509 --> 00:07:16,140 articles in Alemannic? There is no standardized 117 00:07:16,140 --> 00:07:20,024 written language, there is no standardized spelling, 118 00:07:20,024 --> 00:07:22,584 no standardized grammar, no standardized 119 00:07:22,584 --> 00:07:24,578 vocabulary. That doesn't mean there are no rules, 120 00:07:24,578 --> 00:07:29,541 the rules of the dialects are relatively 121 00:07:29,541 --> 00:07:34,062 clearly recognizable, they are however in the various 122 00:07:34,062 --> 00:07:36,153 dialects very... possibly very 123 00:07:36,153 --> 00:07:40,428 varying. There are rather few commonalities 124 00:07:40,428 --> 00:07:43,861 applying to all Alemannic dialects which are not also 125 00:07:43,861 --> 00:07:46,704 common to other German dialects such as Bavarian or Palatine German 126 00:07:46,704 --> 00:07:53,393 or the like. What are we doing now? 127 00:07:53,393 --> 00:07:56,307 Basically, everyone writes an article in his 128 00:07:56,307 --> 00:08:00,831 own dialect and if someone wants to correct an article 129 00:08:00,831 --> 00:08:05,310 or if he wants to add something, 130 00:08:05,310 --> 00:08:09,429 there is the possibility of him simply writing in his own 131 00:08:09,429 --> 00:08:13,467 dialect, and this means 132 00:08:13,467 --> 00:08:16,828 in the dialect may... eh, the dialect in the article 133 00:08:16,828 --> 00:08:19,942 change. The second possibility is: he rewrites 134 00:08:19,942 --> 00:08:25,026 the article in his dialect. This we have... 135 00:08:25,026 --> 00:08:27,866 but we have rather limited this possibility, 136 00:08:27,866 --> 00:08:31,068 this means: Only if the article is really 137 00:08:31,068 --> 00:08:33,748 made from a small stub to a big 138 00:08:33,748 --> 00:08:36,382 article, then it's possible to 139 00:08:36,382 --> 00:08:38,868 change the dialect. Otherwise the dialects 140 00:08:38,868 --> 00:08:46,382 of other authors should be respected. Here I have 141 00:08:46,382 --> 00:08:47,709 an example for spelling variants. 142 00:08:47,709 --> 00:08:54,503 There once was an author from the Swabian area, 143 00:08:54,503 --> 00:08:57,068 he had written on his talk page this 144 00:08:57,068 --> 00:09:00,786 sentence here on the top, this question, 145 00:09:00,786 --> 00:09:05,226 because he felt that the Swabian was that different 146 00:09:05,226 --> 00:09:07,692 from the German language that he absolutely 147 00:09:07,692 --> 00:09:12,153 had to invent his own characters, to represent the 148 00:09:12,153 --> 00:09:14,741 specific Swabian speech sounds. Below I have 149 00:09:14,741 --> 00:09:19,506 transcribed this into a spelling which is more common 150 00:09:19,506 --> 00:09:21,746 in Swabian dialect literature, so 151 00:09:21,746 --> 00:09:24,541 maybe it's more comprehensible that way. We 152 00:09:24,541 --> 00:09:27,506 decided sometime not to allow 153 00:09:27,506 --> 00:09:30,991 such own inventions, for 154 00:09:30,991 --> 00:09:36,988 Wikipedia has the basic rule "No original research" 155 00:09:36,988 --> 00:09:41,230 and applied to the spelling of Alemannic 156 00:09:41,230 --> 00:09:44,428 dialects we say: Spellings are only allowed 157 00:09:44,428 --> 00:09:53,507 if they also occur outside Wikipedia. 158 00:09:53,507 --> 00:09:56,705 Because there are many different dialects 159 00:09:56,705 --> 00:09:59,980 and the term Alemannic doesn't convey meaning to all, 160 00:09:59,980 --> 00:10:02,507 for example in Alsace 161 00:10:02,507 --> 00:10:06,348 or in Switzerland are the terms Al... 162 00:10:06,348 --> 00:10:08,707 is the term Alemannic not very common, 163 00:10:08,707 --> 00:10:10,621 the Swiss are talking rather of Schwyzerdütsch [Swiss German] 164 00:10:10,621 --> 00:10:13,506 and the Alsatians of Elsässisch [Alsatian]. Because of this 165 00:10:13,506 --> 00:10:17,063 sometime we started to present the main page, 166 00:10:17,063 --> 00:10:20,823 the start page in four different dialects 167 00:10:20,823 --> 00:10:26,504 and we change this on a weekly basis. 168 00:10:26,504 --> 00:10:29,713 I also have summarized a small statistic 169 00:10:29,713 --> 00:10:32,304 in which dialects the articles are written, 170 00:10:32,304 --> 00:10:35,111 today we have 15600 articles or the like, 171 00:10:35,111 --> 00:10:39,073 I don't know the current number right now. 172 00:10:39,073 --> 00:10:42,102 As shown here, the articles written by Swiss form 173 00:10:42,102 --> 00:10:45,065 about the half, from Germany about a third, 174 00:10:45,065 --> 00:10:47,622 and the other countries... I have really subdivided 175 00:10:47,622 --> 00:10:51,587 this only by country... so there are, 176 00:10:51,587 --> 00:10:55,220 from Austria and Liechtenstein there are considerably less. 177 00:10:55,220 --> 00:10:57,187 Maybe a short comment regarding Italy, 178 00:10:57,187 --> 00:11:00,751 in Italy there are a few villages which 179 00:11:00,751 --> 00:11:03,255 were populated in the Middle Ages from the Wallis, 180 00:11:03,255 --> 00:11:06,311 Walser villages, and there are still 181 00:11:06,311 --> 00:11:08,903 a few speakers of these Walser dialects, and from 182 00:11:08,903 --> 00:11:12,304 one of these villages there's an author who 183 00:11:12,304 --> 00:11:19,463 wrote some articles for us. 184 00:11:19,463 --> 00:11:22,628 Because there is no standardized written language in Alemannic, 185 00:11:22,628 --> 00:11:24,500 we have another peculiarity, 186 00:11:24,500 --> 00:11:25,670 we create articles under the Standard German 187 00:11:25,670 --> 00:11:27,230 lemma, and then a javascript template 188 00:11:27,230 --> 00:11:29,872 is superimposing an Alemannic artic... 189 00:11:29,872 --> 00:11:31,708 eh... superimposing an Alemannic title. 190 00:11:31,708 --> 00:11:35,346 At the bottom of the chart its visible, it's the article 191 00:11:35,346 --> 00:11:37,994 Strasbourg, it's there under the German 192 00:11:37,994 --> 00:11:41,620 lemma "Strassburg", but superimposed is 193 00:11:41,620 --> 00:11:48,029 the Alsatian "Strossburi". 194 00:11:48,029 --> 00:11:50,911 All in all, about a quarter of these 195 00:11:50,911 --> 00:11:55,263 articles, a quarter of the articles has such a 196 00:11:55,263 --> 00:11:59,868 dialect template... no, I'm saying the wrong thing, 197 00:11:59,868 --> 00:12:03,389 the dialect template, that's a different thing, 198 00:12:03,389 --> 00:12:05,950 one can label in which dialect an article 199 00:12:05,950 --> 00:12:08,994 is written, and in a quarter of the articles 200 00:12:08,994 --> 00:12:12,220 it's labeled, this article is in Alsatian, 201 00:12:12,220 --> 00:12:15,994 in Swiss German or whatever the description is. 202 00:12:15,994 --> 00:12:18,272 In the other articles, these are often also written 203 00:12:18,272 --> 00:12:21,834 in a specific dialect, but it's not labeled there. 204 00:12:21,834 --> 00:12:24,781 And we don't have a "related to Switzerland" rule such as 205 00:12:24,781 --> 00:12:27,225 the German Wikipedia has, that means here one may 206 00:12:27,225 --> 00:12:29,940 use "scharf-s" [Eszett] in articles pertaining to Switzerland, 207 00:12:29,940 --> 00:12:33,106 and in Articles pertaining to Germany, 208 00:12:33,106 --> 00:12:35,946 one may use "double s". That's completely 209 00:12:35,946 --> 00:12:39,666 irrelevant to us, as the author determines with his dialect 210 00:12:39,666 --> 00:12:45,620 and with his spelling variant how he wants to write. 211 00:12:45,620 --> 00:12:48,145 A distinctive feature of small Wikipedias 212 00:12:48,145 --> 00:12:51,218 in general, of the Alemannic in particular is 213 00:12:51,218 --> 00:12:53,948 that, if you look in on a relatively regular basis, 214 00:12:53,948 --> 00:12:56,272 you cann follow through the last changes 215 00:12:56,272 --> 00:12:58,941 what's happening. You can't read all articles, 216 00:12:58,941 --> 00:13:02,418 there are too many for that after all, but you can 217 00:13:02,418 --> 00:13:04,784 follow more or less which authors 218 00:13:04,784 --> 00:13:07,980 are editing, which articles are created, where 219 00:13:07,980 --> 00:13:10,873 there are bigger changes or the like. And we have 220 00:13:10,873 --> 00:13:14,103 in form of the "Stammtisch" [regular's table] a central discussion forum, 221 00:13:14,103 --> 00:13:17,393 where basically all important discussions 222 00:13:17,393 --> 00:13:25,429 take place in a central location. No notability guidelines. That's because 223 00:13:25,429 --> 00:13:29,546 simply for the reason, these notability guidelines were introduced 224 00:13:29,546 --> 00:13:32,265 in the German-language Wikipedia because there 225 00:13:32,265 --> 00:13:37,271 was the need to restrict what may be created 226 00:13:37,271 --> 00:13:40,580 as new articles, well, there are not so many new 227 00:13:40,580 --> 00:13:43,508 articles here for us to have 228 00:13:43,508 --> 00:13:48,583 the need to restrict this. 229 00:13:48,583 --> 00:13:54,542 The only item for... what we have, to exclude 230 00:13:54,542 --> 00:13:59,231 for example such one sentence bot articles, we do 231 00:13:59,231 --> 00:14:04,380 delete articles with less than 5 sentences. 232 00:14:04,380 --> 00:14:07,469 Altogether the discussion culture 233 00:14:07,469 --> 00:14:10,980 in the Alemannic Wikipedia is fairly friendly, 234 00:14:10,980 --> 00:14:13,231 surely that's connected with the fact that there are so 235 00:14:13,231 --> 00:14:16,507 few people. In ten years we had only 236 00:14:16,507 --> 00:14:19,140 one single user ban proceeding and that 237 00:14:19,140 --> 00:14:21,306 was, of all things, an author wo didn't know Alemannic 238 00:14:21,306 --> 00:14:25,147 but only wrote in Standard German 239 00:14:25,147 --> 00:14:30,308 and... well, accosted people in an aggressive manner. We have a rule 240 00:14:30,308 --> 00:14:33,025 that, after a year of inactivity, 241 00:14:33,025 --> 00:14:36,312 administrators lose their permission, but an admin vote out 242 00:14:36,312 --> 00:14:38,464 or something like a reelection we also never had. 243 00:14:38,464 --> 00:14:41,951 Today, there are, I think, eight 244 00:14:41,951 --> 00:14:45,627 administrators or so, I don't know... 245 00:14:45,627 --> 00:14:48,909 We also activated Flagged Reviews, with the 246 00:14:48,909 --> 00:14:54,100 abuse filter to counter such... IP edits, we 247 00:14:54,100 --> 00:14:57,138 experimented, however we discovered that 248 00:14:57,138 --> 00:15:02,227 too many serious contributions were excluded, 249 00:15:02,227 --> 00:15:07,220 we then deactived most. 250 00:15:07,220 --> 00:15:09,463 On the whole one can say that we have a clear 251 00:15:09,463 --> 00:15:12,507 focus on regional subjects, 252 00:15:12,507 --> 00:15:14,547 around half of the articles has a 253 00:15:14,547 --> 00:15:18,622 regional subject, there are in fact 254 00:15:18,622 --> 00:15:21,753 better articles for some subjects than in 255 00:15:21,753 --> 00:15:24,350 the German Wikipedia, not just longer, 256 00:15:24,350 --> 00:15:27,106 but, I think, really better ones with regards to content, 257 00:15:27,106 --> 00:15:29,824 for example for the Romansh language, 258 00:15:29,824 --> 00:15:31,622 there the article is certainly very much better than 259 00:15:31,622 --> 00:15:36,660 in the German Wikipedia. 260 00:15:36,660 --> 00:15:39,463 Here's the place to say: For regional subjects 261 00:15:39,463 --> 00:15:43,664 own knowledge may be used to a certain extent, 262 00:15:43,664 --> 00:15:52,063 there we simply say, for some subjects 263 00:15:52,063 --> 00:15:54,778 an author wo lives at the place 264 00:15:54,778 --> 00:15:59,303 just knows it, maybe in his... 265 00:15:59,303 --> 00:16:06,107 may be able to inquire in his environment, and then 266 00:16:06,107 --> 00:16:08,540 we're believing him. That doesn't mean we allow 267 00:16:08,540 --> 00:16:12,111 subjective assessments, but simply for facts we 268 00:16:12,111 --> 00:16:15,623 allow some original research. 269 00:16:15,623 --> 00:16:18,834 In narrow confines. 270 00:16:18,834 --> 00:16:22,300 Ideally regional subjects should be written 271 00:16:22,300 --> 00:16:25,308 in regional dialect, that's what we 272 00:16:25,308 --> 00:16:28,694 imagine for the long term, but it's not so today, 273 00:16:28,694 --> 00:16:31,066 but I don't know how many subjects really are 274 00:16:31,066 --> 00:16:35,353 in a regional dialect today. 275 00:16:35,353 --> 00:16:39,227 And there are around 623 articles which exist only here 276 00:16:39,227 --> 00:16:44,109 and in no other language version. 277 00:16:44,109 --> 00:16:48,306 In these ten years, many debates were caused 278 00:16:48,306 --> 00:16:51,701 by the question of how the Alemannic Wikipedia should 279 00:16:51,701 --> 00:16:55,382 distinguish itself from the big language versions with regards to content, 280 00:16:55,382 --> 00:16:58,380 of course especially from the German one. 281 00:16:58,380 --> 00:17:03,949 On the one hand the question: Should we translate articles? 282 00:17:03,949 --> 00:17:06,786 Or should we write separate articles? 283 00:17:06,786 --> 00:17:09,548 On the other hand the question also regarding vocabulary, 284 00:17:09,548 --> 00:17:12,469 should we adopt technical terms from science 285 00:17:12,469 --> 00:17:15,109 for example from German, 286 00:17:15,109 --> 00:17:20,031 or should we create projects to create 287 00:17:20,031 --> 00:17:24,543 our own Alemannic technical terms. 288 00:17:24,543 --> 00:17:26,706 These debates existed at the beginnung, these are all 289 00:17:26,706 --> 00:17:30,140 settled by now, because the common language use 290 00:17:30,140 --> 00:17:32,220 in the Alemannic language area is just 291 00:17:32,220 --> 00:17:34,869 that words from German or from English 292 00:17:34,869 --> 00:17:36,980 or from French are adopted, that's just 293 00:17:36,980 --> 00:17:40,951 today's reality of Alemannic. 294 00:17:40,951 --> 00:17:43,980 There are translations... well, 295 00:17:43,980 --> 00:17:46,460 around a quarter of the articles are translations, 296 00:17:46,460 --> 00:17:48,828 mainly from German. And we 297 00:17:48,828 --> 00:17:51,106 label them with our own template, 298 00:17:51,106 --> 00:17:53,194 we don't import versions, 299 00:17:53,194 --> 00:17:56,298 but we have our own version... 300 00:17:56,298 --> 00:17:58,311 eh, template, where there is a link to the 301 00:17:58,311 --> 00:18:05,946 version history of the German article. 302 00:18:05,946 --> 00:18:08,706 Now to the subject of bot articles! 303 00:18:08,706 --> 00:18:11,620 I didn't mention it in the previous discussion. 304 00:18:11,620 --> 00:18:15,306 Around ten percent of the articles were created by script, 305 00:18:15,306 --> 00:18:18,580 by bot, and then further expanded by hand. 306 00:18:18,580 --> 00:18:21,500 It's a similar issue 307 00:18:21,500 --> 00:18:24,176 wie auf dieser westfriesischen Wikipedia. like on this West Frisian Wikipedia. 308 00:18:24,176 --> 00:18:26,828 So, there are ten percent of the articles, but they 309 00:18:26,828 --> 00:18:31,386 haven't remained as created by the bot. 310 00:18:31,386 --> 00:18:34,260 And they are mainly 311 00:18:34,260 --> 00:18:39,634 municipalities from the Alemannic language area. 312 00:18:39,634 --> 00:18:41,943 Something special in the Alemannic 313 00:18:41,943 --> 00:18:44,751 Wikipedia: We have these side projects, 314 00:18:44,751 --> 00:18:46,983 Wikinews, Wikisource, Wikibooks 315 00:18:46,983 --> 00:18:49,671 and so on, we integrated them 316 00:18:49,671 --> 00:18:52,024 as their own namespaces. The experience 317 00:18:52,024 --> 00:18:54,785 was simply, after some years: There was 318 00:18:54,785 --> 00:18:57,140 an Alemannic Wiktionary, but there was 319 00:18:57,140 --> 00:19:00,140 nobody active. And as well there was an Alemannic 320 00:19:00,140 --> 00:19:03,300 Wikibooks, and we said, that's not worth it at all 321 00:19:03,300 --> 00:19:05,706 us all dissipating our energies there 322 00:19:05,706 --> 00:19:09,102 and we're rather doing that in one project, 323 00:19:09,102 --> 00:19:12,145 have own namespaces for that and we have 324 00:19:12,145 --> 00:19:16,061 the focus on Alemannic subject matter as well. 325 00:19:16,061 --> 00:19:19,074 That means, the Alemannic Wikt... eh, Wikinews, 326 00:19:19,074 --> 00:19:22,069 this isn't news of the world written in 327 00:19:22,069 --> 00:19:23,820 Alemannic, but here we collect 328 00:19:23,820 --> 00:19:28,026 news pertaining to Alemannic dialects. 329 00:19:28,026 --> 00:19:29,465 And in Wikisource so we have 330 00:19:29,465 --> 00:19:35,066 dialect literature and so on. 331 00:19:35,066 --> 00:19:39,381 There are meetups since 2006. Here I have 332 00:19:39,381 --> 00:19:42,021 drawn on a map when and where which 333 00:19:42,021 --> 00:19:44,500 meetups took place. One sees - the longer I study 334 00:19:44,500 --> 00:19:47,106 this map, the more striking I think 335 00:19:47,106 --> 00:19:49,740 it is that we have met nearly always only in Switzerland. 336 00:19:49,740 --> 00:19:52,740 That's connected with the fact 337 00:19:52,740 --> 00:19:56,744 that many authors, at least for a time, have 338 00:19:56,744 --> 00:19:58,989 lived in Switzerland, me too, but I live 339 00:19:58,989 --> 00:20:01,782 not in Switzerland any longer, and 340 00:20:01,782 --> 00:20:07,420 for... all in all it's clear that it always was 341 00:20:07,420 --> 00:20:10,060 somehow in the middle. But I see, 342 00:20:10,060 --> 00:20:12,829 we have to do some meetups there 343 00:20:12,829 --> 00:20:15,949 in the Swabian area or so, so they'll be able 344 00:20:15,949 --> 00:20:20,069 to come as well. Yes, in Lörrach, that's again 345 00:20:20,069 --> 00:20:22,344 in the middle. And here, Karlsruhe 346 00:20:22,344 --> 00:20:24,060 of course, that's what you're experiencing right now. 347 00:20:24,060 --> 00:20:29,511 (laughs). 348 00:20:29,511 --> 00:20:35,746 We had three writing contests since 2011. 349 00:20:35,746 --> 00:20:38,831 Once... we always tried to find subjects 350 00:20:38,831 --> 00:20:40,989 that are connected with the Alemannic. 351 00:20:40,989 --> 00:20:44,072 That means, we indicate a subject. 352 00:20:44,072 --> 00:20:47,263 In 2011 this was Alemannic culture, there were 353 00:20:47,263 --> 00:20:49,626 articles for dialect authors or for 354 00:20:49,626 --> 00:20:53,136 musical groups, singers who sing in dialect. 355 00:20:53,136 --> 00:20:56,266 In 2012 it was buildings and structures and now, 356 00:20:56,266 --> 00:21:01,951 the writing contest in this year was for a subject 357 00:21:01,951 --> 00:21:04,949 which was relevant in the last ten years. 358 00:21:04,949 --> 00:21:08,908 The award ceremony will be held afterwards. 359 00:21:08,908 --> 00:21:12,151 What do we adopt, for example, from the 360 00:21:12,151 --> 00:21:16,493 German Wikipedia? Usually most templates. 361 00:21:16,493 --> 00:21:21,823 That means, we create them in way that we 362 00:21:21,823 --> 00:21:24,912 Struktur der Vorlage übernehmen, dass wir adopt the structure of the template, in a way 363 00:21:24,912 --> 00:21:28,630 that displays the terms of the template 364 00:21:28,630 --> 00:21:30,750 in Alemannic of course, but you can 365 00:21:30,750 --> 00:21:33,193 if for example an article about a municipality 366 00:21:33,193 --> 00:21:35,789 is created, you can copy the infobox from 367 00:21:35,789 --> 00:21:38,425 the German Wikipedia and use it 368 00:21:38,425 --> 00:21:40,140 directly, then it will be displayed 369 00:21:40,140 --> 00:21:45,864 in Alemannic. We have adopted the templates for metadata 370 00:21:45,864 --> 00:21:49,311 as well, the authority data templates and 371 00:21:49,311 --> 00:21:56,627 some other things. Here one this page I have 372 00:21:56,627 --> 00:22:01,026 listed some organisations we had 373 00:22:01,026 --> 00:22:04,700 contact with, that is to say, 374 00:22:04,700 --> 00:22:07,707 there is no systematic collaboration, but we 375 00:22:07,707 --> 00:22:11,546 we are in touch with them. There are also some 376 00:22:11,546 --> 00:22:15,143 people from these organisations which are active in Wikipedia 377 00:22:15,143 --> 00:22:18,234 as authors, for example an editor 378 00:22:18,234 --> 00:22:21,227 of the Swiss German dictionary. He has also 379 00:22:21,227 --> 00:22:25,380 written articles for us. 380 00:22:25,380 --> 00:22:29,073 And... eh... the four... below, that are four 381 00:22:29,073 --> 00:22:33,628 associations who are dedicated to supporting dialects. 382 00:22:33,628 --> 00:22:35,744 Three Alsatian ones here and one 383 00:22:35,744 --> 00:22:41,260 from Germany. On a page, the 384 00:22:41,260 --> 00:22:43,426 so-called "Ussespiegel", we collect 385 00:22:43,426 --> 00:22:47,387 comments. I.e. comments we find on the 386 00:22:47,387 --> 00:22:50,187 Internet regarding the Alemannic Wikipedia, 387 00:22:50,187 --> 00:22:52,629 because we always want to be clear on what 388 00:22:52,629 --> 00:22:55,300 readers think of the Alemannic Wikipedia, 389 00:22:55,300 --> 00:22:57,189 we're collecting comments for 10 years here. 390 00:22:57,189 --> 00:23:02,104 That is to say, of course we're not collecting copied comments, 391 00:23:02,104 --> 00:23:03,872 that would be a copyright infringement, 392 00:23:03,872 --> 00:23:06,548 but we collect links and then you can have 393 00:23:06,548 --> 00:23:09,430 a look at the comments. And I have made here 394 00:23:09,430 --> 00:23:12,260 a statistical analysis over the years, 395 00:23:12,260 --> 00:23:16,906 of pages where the comments can be assigned 396 00:23:16,906 --> 00:23:19,590 to a date. And these are 397 00:23:19,590 --> 00:23:22,425 Blogs, Foren, Facebook, and Twitter, there are many 398 00:23:22,425 --> 00:23:24,940 more comments on other pages which are just not 399 00:23:24,940 --> 00:23:27,700 accompanied by a date. And then you can see 400 00:23:27,700 --> 00:23:30,427 that of course it's rising in the beginning 401 00:23:30,427 --> 00:23:33,547 but most notably one can see that the 402 00:23:33,547 --> 00:23:37,140 negative comments, I have grouped this very roughly 403 00:23:37,140 --> 00:23:40,260 into positive and negative, in the beginning 404 00:23:40,260 --> 00:23:45,423 in relation... sometime in 2007 405 00:23:45,423 --> 00:23:50,389 it's a third and from then it's diminishing and 406 00:23:50,389 --> 00:23:52,111 today there are virtually no 407 00:23:52,111 --> 00:23:54,466 negative comments left. I think it is very 408 00:23:54,466 --> 00:23:59,540 remarkable that - I'll be with you shortly - over the years 409 00:23:59,540 --> 00:24:04,747 apparently the opinion regarding dialect Wikipedias 410 00:24:04,747 --> 00:24:07,950 in general and the Alemannic one in particular 411 00:24:07,950 --> 00:24:10,507 has apparently improved. 412 00:24:10,507 --> 00:24:11,989 Please, a question: 413 00:24:11,989 --> 00:24:15,500 (Enquirer, muted: Is it possible to say or 414 00:24:15,500 --> 00:24:18,786 do you know why in 2007 the [incomprehensible] 415 00:24:18,786 --> 00:24:21,469 was negative [...] Was there something or...) 416 00:24:21,469 --> 00:24:27,474 No, I don't really know. I suspect 417 00:24:27,474 --> 00:24:32,376 this is due to the fact that in this time, 2006-2007, 418 00:24:32,376 --> 00:24:35,746 and in the years after the quality 419 00:24:35,746 --> 00:24:38,068 of the articles has markedly improved. 420 00:24:38,068 --> 00:24:43,860 At the beginning often there were also such... 421 00:24:43,860 --> 00:24:46,548 well, fun articles which described something 422 00:24:46,548 --> 00:24:49,020 a bit casually. Not really nonsense, but 423 00:24:49,020 --> 00:24:52,380 just a bit colloquially, casually 424 00:24:52,380 --> 00:24:56,340 phrased away, and over the years there were 425 00:24:56,340 --> 00:25:01,468 many debates caused by this, so the articles have become more serious. 426 00:25:01,468 --> 00:25:08,986 I think that's the reason. 427 00:25:08,986 --> 00:25:15,911 Still, one outlook. On Wikidata will... there are 428 00:25:15,911 --> 00:25:19,982 efforts to upload information into the database, 429 00:25:19,982 --> 00:25:23,588 things like population figures or mayors of municipalities or the like 430 00:25:23,588 --> 00:25:27,709 and maybe this could be a chance 431 00:25:27,709 --> 00:25:30,352 especially for us but also for many other 432 00:25:30,352 --> 00:25:33,827 language versions, to update articles, because there 433 00:25:33,827 --> 00:25:36,471 is of course, as we are so few active ones, 434 00:25:36,471 --> 00:25:41,591 there are maybe ten to twenty active authors who 435 00:25:41,591 --> 00:25:44,631 really contribute on a regular basis... we have 436 00:25:44,631 --> 00:25:47,220 the problem that articles which were written 5 years 437 00:25:47,220 --> 00:25:49,703 ago may no longer be on our radar, 438 00:25:49,703 --> 00:25:51,500 that we have to update them. 439 00:25:51,500 --> 00:25:55,512 And maybe through Wikidata there will be 440 00:25:55,512 --> 00:25:57,829 ... the potential to get them updated. 441 00:25:57,829 --> 00:26:07,514 It's planned, but not yet implemented. 442 00:26:07,514 --> 00:26:16,860 Thank you. 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