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1 00:00:05,805 --> 00:00:07,105 Mr. Earnest: Good afternoon, everybody. 2 00:00:07,107 --> 00:00:09,377 Nice to see you all. 3 00:00:09,376 --> 00:00:15,546 I do not have any statements at the top, so we can go 4 00:00:15,548 --> 00:00:17,088 straight to your questions. 5 00:00:17,083 --> 00:00:17,913 Josh, would you like to start? 6 00:00:17,917 --> 00:00:18,587 The Press: Sure. 7 00:00:18,585 --> 00:00:19,915 Thanks, Josh. 8 00:00:19,919 --> 00:00:21,959 Ahead of this trip to Saudi Arabia, I wanted to start 9 00:00:21,955 --> 00:00:25,495 with this 9/11 legislation that's brought so 10 00:00:25,492 --> 00:00:27,192 much attention. 11 00:00:27,193 --> 00:00:30,263 You described yesterday the White House's opposition, or 12 00:00:30,263 --> 00:00:33,833 at least strong concerns about this and the context 13 00:00:33,833 --> 00:00:39,703 of this, the whole notion of sovereign immunity being 14 00:00:39,706 --> 00:00:40,676 at stake. 15 00:00:40,673 --> 00:00:43,343 But the backers of this bill say that that is really 16 00:00:43,343 --> 00:00:48,313 narrowly tailored to situations where there's a 17 00:00:48,314 --> 00:00:52,184 terrorist attack that kills an American on American soil. 18 00:00:52,185 --> 00:00:56,285 So isn't it a strawman to say that by supporting this 19 00:00:56,289 --> 00:00:59,989 legislation you're risking the whole system of immunity 20 00:00:59,993 --> 00:01:00,993 for governments? 21 00:01:00,994 --> 00:01:03,694 Mr. Earnest: Well, Josh, what you just described is a 22 00:01:03,696 --> 00:01:08,736 scenario where Congress would open up a loophole 23 00:01:08,735 --> 00:01:12,405 that would allow individual Americans, no matter how 24 00:01:12,405 --> 00:01:18,815 justified they are in having sustained harm, being given 25 00:01:18,812 --> 00:01:22,952 an opportunity to sue another country. 26 00:01:22,949 --> 00:01:27,489 And it certainly is plausible, Josh, that other 27 00:01:27,487 --> 00:01:29,487 countries, when they're implementing these laws, 28 00:01:29,489 --> 00:01:32,659 would not tailor them so specifically. 29 00:01:32,659 --> 00:01:35,499 And that does open up the United States to a unique 30 00:01:35,495 --> 00:01:38,235 degree of risk. 31 00:01:38,231 --> 00:01:41,801 And putting our country, our taxpayers, our 32 00:01:41,801 --> 00:01:45,001 servicemembers and our diplomats in legal jeopardy 33 00:01:45,004 --> 00:01:47,774 in that way is contrary to our interests. 34 00:01:47,774 --> 00:01:52,174 It's unwise, particularly when there is an alternative 35 00:01:52,178 --> 00:01:57,848 mechanism for us to resolve these kinds of issues with 36 00:01:57,851 --> 00:01:58,551 other countries. 37 00:01:58,551 --> 00:01:59,851 That's the essence of diplomacy. 38 00:01:59,853 --> 00:02:06,093 And I spent a little time talking yesterday about the 39 00:02:06,092 --> 00:02:08,792 U.S. relationship with Saudi Arabia. 40 00:02:08,795 --> 00:02:11,965 It is a relationship that is characterized by extensive 41 00:02:11,965 --> 00:02:15,105 counterterrorism cooperation. 42 00:02:15,101 --> 00:02:17,571 That cooperation enhances our national security and 43 00:02:17,570 --> 00:02:20,040 makes the American people safer. 44 00:02:20,039 --> 00:02:22,109 The Saudi government happens to think that it enhances 45 00:02:22,108 --> 00:02:24,108 the national security of their country as well and 46 00:02:24,110 --> 00:02:27,850 makes the Saudi people safer as well. 47 00:02:27,847 --> 00:02:30,047 That's why we're able to cooperate. 48 00:02:30,049 --> 00:02:33,449 It does not mean that there are not differences between 49 00:02:33,453 --> 00:02:34,453 our two countries. 50 00:02:34,454 --> 00:02:36,454 There are substantial differences between our 51 00:02:36,456 --> 00:02:37,426 two countries. 52 00:02:37,423 --> 00:02:39,423 And the President does not hesitate to raise his 53 00:02:39,425 --> 00:02:42,365 concerns about those differences as well. 54 00:02:42,362 --> 00:02:44,362 I'm confident he'll do that in the context of the 55 00:02:44,364 --> 00:02:47,834 meetings that he's preparing for later this week. 56 00:02:47,834 --> 00:02:49,034 I think that is the point. 57 00:02:49,035 --> 00:02:51,135 That is the essence of our concern and that is the 58 00:02:51,137 --> 00:02:55,377 essence of our proposal for how these kinds of 59 00:02:55,375 --> 00:02:57,375 situations can be resolved moving forward. 60 00:02:57,377 --> 00:02:59,617 I was gratified to have someone tell me shortly 61 00:02:59,612 --> 00:03:03,012 before I walked out here that Speaker Ryan indicated 62 00:03:03,016 --> 00:03:08,286 that he at least had some more concerns with the way 63 00:03:08,288 --> 00:03:11,828 that this bill is structured because of the consequences 64 00:03:11,824 --> 00:03:13,194 it could have for the U.S. 65 00:03:13,192 --> 00:03:15,332 relationship not just with Saudi Arabia but with 66 00:03:15,328 --> 00:03:16,498 countries around the world. 67 00:03:16,496 --> 00:03:18,336 The Press: But the consequence that you're 68 00:03:18,331 --> 00:03:20,331 concerned about as you describe is that other 69 00:03:20,333 --> 00:03:22,333 countries could pass legislation that's even 70 00:03:22,335 --> 00:03:27,305 broader than this bill in allowing these kinds of suits. 71 00:03:27,307 --> 00:03:30,547 Couldn't another country do that anyway regardless of 72 00:03:30,543 --> 00:03:34,313 what we pass here in the U.S.? How does the U.S. 73 00:03:34,314 --> 00:03:38,284 passing this narrowly tailored law open the 74 00:03:38,284 --> 00:03:40,854 floodgates to that kind of thing happening overseas? 75 00:03:40,853 --> 00:03:42,853 Mr. Earnest: Because, Josh, people follow the United 76 00:03:42,855 --> 00:03:44,855 States because of the example that we set. 77 00:03:44,857 --> 00:03:46,857 And that example that we set applies in a variety 78 00:03:46,859 --> 00:03:48,699 of contexts. 79 00:03:48,695 --> 00:03:49,865 It certainly applies when it relates to our values. 80 00:03:49,862 --> 00:03:53,562 People follow our example when it comes to the 81 00:03:53,566 --> 00:03:57,066 economic decisions that we make because we have such a 82 00:03:57,070 --> 00:04:00,410 strong economy that has yielded great benefits for 83 00:04:00,406 --> 00:04:01,406 our people. 84 00:04:01,407 --> 00:04:06,217 Other countries also follow our example when it comes to 85 00:04:06,212 --> 00:04:07,982 setting up legal structures. 86 00:04:07,981 --> 00:04:10,821 So, again, I think this is the point -- that taking a 87 00:04:10,817 --> 00:04:17,127 step like this would significantly enhance the 88 00:04:17,123 --> 00:04:20,223 risk to the United States not in the context of our 89 00:04:20,226 --> 00:04:23,396 relationship with Saudi Arabia necessarily, but the 90 00:04:23,396 --> 00:04:25,396 concern that we have is much broader than that. 91 00:04:25,398 --> 00:04:28,698 Our concern is with our ability to do business in 92 00:04:28,701 --> 00:04:29,701 countries around the world. 93 00:04:29,702 --> 00:04:32,272 And sometimes it's not just related to economic 94 00:04:32,271 --> 00:04:35,341 business, but actually to the business of our national 95 00:04:35,341 --> 00:04:38,881 security, to the business of the functioning of the state 96 00:04:38,878 --> 00:04:41,548 -- whether that relates to national security 97 00:04:41,547 --> 00:04:43,087 operations, or in some cases, even 98 00:04:43,082 --> 00:04:44,452 humanitarian operations. 99 00:04:44,450 --> 00:04:45,280 The Press: You said that we don't need to create this 100 00:04:45,284 --> 00:04:46,854 mechanism because we already have a mechanism to deal 101 00:04:46,853 --> 00:04:49,153 with this, mainly diplomacy. 102 00:04:49,155 --> 00:04:52,495 There's a group of 9/11 widows and widowers who 103 00:04:52,492 --> 00:04:54,432 support this legislation. 104 00:04:54,427 --> 00:04:56,327 They're very concerned. 105 00:04:56,329 --> 00:04:58,269 They've written to the White House asking to meet with 106 00:04:58,264 --> 00:04:59,264 the President. 107 00:04:59,265 --> 00:05:05,375 Do you think that those families of victims who have 108 00:05:05,371 --> 00:05:06,841 been waiting for a resolution to this for more 109 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:13,249 than 15 years should feel that that diplomatic track 110 00:05:13,246 --> 00:05:16,586 that you described has served them well, has 111 00:05:16,582 --> 00:05:19,252 allowed them to pursue these claims the way that 112 00:05:19,252 --> 00:05:21,292 they should? 113 00:05:21,287 --> 00:05:23,087 And will the President agree to that request to meet 114 00:05:23,089 --> 00:05:24,289 with them? 115 00:05:24,290 --> 00:05:26,790 Mr. Earnest: Well, I don't have any presidential 116 00:05:26,793 --> 00:05:28,793 meetings to announce at this point. 117 00:05:28,795 --> 00:05:31,195 If a meeting like that occurs, we'll let you know. 118 00:05:31,197 --> 00:05:35,937 Let me just say, as I did yesterday, that there is no 119 00:05:35,935 --> 00:05:42,905 minimizing the profound pain that those Americans who 120 00:05:42,909 --> 00:05:46,379 lost loved ones on 9/11 have endured. 121 00:05:46,379 --> 00:05:49,249 And that's why this administration has been so 122 00:05:49,248 --> 00:05:52,988 committed to fighting for them, both when it comes to 123 00:05:52,985 --> 00:05:56,555 compensation for their loss, but also when it comes to 124 00:05:56,556 --> 00:06:00,356 fighting for health care benefits for those who risk 125 00:06:00,359 --> 00:06:06,899 their lives to try to rescue people who were victims of 126 00:06:06,899 --> 00:06:12,269 the 9/11 attacks or were engaged in the years-long 127 00:06:12,271 --> 00:06:16,071 effort to rebuild in the aftermath of those attacks. 128 00:06:16,075 --> 00:06:18,175 The Obama administration has been a leader in both of 129 00:06:18,177 --> 00:06:22,077 those efforts to advocate for those who lost so much 130 00:06:22,081 --> 00:06:25,581 on 9/11 and those who have been responsible for either 131 00:06:25,585 --> 00:06:27,855 rescuing people on 9/11 or leading the 132 00:06:27,854 --> 00:06:31,954 rebuilding process. 133 00:06:31,958 --> 00:06:34,258 I think what is also true, Josh -- and this is the 134 00:06:34,260 --> 00:06:37,830 conclusion of the 9/11 Commission, the outside blue 135 00:06:37,830 --> 00:06:41,400 ribbon panel that was tasked with taking an unvarnished 136 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,800 look at exactly what happened on 9/11 -- their 137 00:06:43,803 --> 00:06:45,803 report indicates -- this is a report that was made 138 00:06:45,805 --> 00:06:48,145 public years ago -- their report indicates that 139 00:06:48,141 --> 00:06:50,781 there's no evidence that the Saudi government has an 140 00:06:50,777 --> 00:06:53,947 institution or that senior Saudi government officials 141 00:06:53,946 --> 00:06:56,586 knowingly supported the 9/11 plotters. 142 00:06:56,582 --> 00:06:57,582 That's just a fact. 143 00:06:57,583 --> 00:07:03,993 But, presumably -- and I think we've heard a lot from 144 00:07:03,990 --> 00:07:07,130 the 9/11 families about what their significant policy 145 00:07:07,126 --> 00:07:09,826 concerns are -- certainly at the top of their list is our 146 00:07:09,829 --> 00:07:11,899 national security and protecting the American 147 00:07:11,898 --> 00:07:16,168 homeland and preventing the great tragedy that they have 148 00:07:16,169 --> 00:07:20,509 endured from afflicting other families. 149 00:07:20,506 --> 00:07:24,376 And this President has worked aggressively to 150 00:07:24,377 --> 00:07:26,217 enhance our national security, to make our 151 00:07:26,212 --> 00:07:27,212 homeland safer. 152 00:07:27,213 --> 00:07:29,253 And part of that has been through ramped-up 153 00:07:29,248 --> 00:07:32,748 cooperation with the Saudi government. 154 00:07:32,752 --> 00:07:35,622 That's the essence of diplomacy in terms of 155 00:07:35,621 --> 00:07:38,361 looking for ways to work with other countries to find 156 00:07:38,357 --> 00:07:40,357 common ground to advance our shared interests. 157 00:07:40,359 --> 00:07:42,359 And when it comes to the national security of the 158 00:07:42,361 --> 00:07:44,801 United States and the safety of our homeland, the 159 00:07:44,797 --> 00:07:48,067 President has been able to work effectively with 160 00:07:48,067 --> 00:07:50,067 countries around the globe, including the Kingdom of 161 00:07:50,069 --> 00:07:52,069 Saudi Arabia, in pursuit of that goal. 162 00:07:52,071 --> 00:07:54,071 The Press: And the Vice President, in his speech to 163 00:07:54,073 --> 00:07:56,073 J Street last night, had some pretty harsh rebuke of 164 00:07:56,075 --> 00:07:58,645 the Israeli government, and he said sometimes we're 165 00:07:58,644 --> 00:08:01,914 outrageously frustrated by the Israeli government's 166 00:08:01,914 --> 00:08:06,014 policies leading Israel in the wrong direction. 167 00:08:06,018 --> 00:08:08,158 Does the President agree with those comments that the 168 00:08:08,154 --> 00:08:09,824 Vice President made? 169 00:08:09,822 --> 00:08:14,162 Mr. Earnest: Well, I think the way that I would 170 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,160 describe the situation is consistent with what the 171 00:08:16,162 --> 00:08:20,402 Vice President said, which is that the nation of Israel 172 00:08:20,399 --> 00:08:22,399 is the strongest ally that the United States has in the 173 00:08:22,401 --> 00:08:25,101 Middle East and we stand shoulder-to-shoulder with 174 00:08:25,104 --> 00:08:27,104 them when it comes to the national security interests 175 00:08:27,106 --> 00:08:28,106 of our two countries. 176 00:08:28,107 --> 00:08:30,807 The United States provides tremendous assistance to the 177 00:08:30,810 --> 00:08:33,510 nation of Israel to ensure their security. 178 00:08:33,512 --> 00:08:36,012 And our commitment to that level of cooperation and 179 00:08:36,015 --> 00:08:39,715 that level of assistance has not wavered at all, despite 180 00:08:39,719 --> 00:08:41,719 what have been some obvious policy differences between 181 00:08:41,721 --> 00:08:42,721 our two governments. 182 00:08:42,722 --> 00:08:46,192 That has been the President's approach to this 183 00:08:46,192 --> 00:08:48,192 critically important relationship. 184 00:08:48,194 --> 00:08:52,464 And I would just note that that is a longstanding 185 00:08:52,465 --> 00:08:54,805 tradition in American politics -- that Democratic 186 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,470 and Republican Presidents alike have worked to ensure 187 00:08:58,471 --> 00:09:00,471 that the relationship between our two countries 188 00:09:00,473 --> 00:09:02,643 does not get mired in partisan politics. 189 00:09:02,642 --> 00:09:07,012 It's not a relationship that is somehow dependent on the 190 00:09:07,013 --> 00:09:09,653 political affiliation or political ideology of the 191 00:09:09,649 --> 00:09:12,749 leaders in either country, that the importance of our 192 00:09:12,752 --> 00:09:14,922 alliance transcends those narrower concerns. 193 00:09:14,921 --> 00:09:17,921 And President Obama hasn't just subscribed to that 194 00:09:17,924 --> 00:09:21,194 theory, he has put it into practice. 195 00:09:21,193 --> 00:09:23,633 And I think this is something that even Prime 196 00:09:23,629 --> 00:09:25,629 Minister Netanyahu -- again, despite some of our 197 00:09:25,631 --> 00:09:28,531 differences -- has, himself, acknowledged when he said 198 00:09:28,534 --> 00:09:31,904 that security cooperation between the United States 199 00:09:31,904 --> 00:09:34,044 and Israel under President Obama's leadership 200 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:35,570 is unprecedented. 201 00:09:35,574 --> 00:09:36,814 Jeff. 202 00:09:36,809 --> 00:09:40,479 The Press: Josh, what does the White House believe are 203 00:09:40,479 --> 00:09:43,379 the prospects of restarting diplomatic talks over the 204 00:09:43,382 --> 00:09:45,022 Syria crisis? 205 00:09:45,017 --> 00:09:48,017 And with those talks now having broken down, what are 206 00:09:48,020 --> 00:09:49,660 other options? 207 00:09:49,655 --> 00:09:54,965 Did the United States put all of its eggs in the 208 00:09:54,961 --> 00:09:58,761 diplomacy basket, as it were? 209 00:09:58,764 --> 00:10:02,204 Mr. Earnest: Well, Jeff, obviously our approach to 210 00:10:02,201 --> 00:10:05,701 countering ISIL has included a multifaceted strategy that 211 00:10:05,705 --> 00:10:08,145 has included the not insignificant use of 212 00:10:08,140 --> 00:10:11,080 military force. 213 00:10:11,077 --> 00:10:15,077 But we have acknowledged all along that if our efforts 214 00:10:15,081 --> 00:10:17,881 were focused solely on military action that we 215 00:10:17,883 --> 00:10:21,483 would not be effectively pursuing our interests or 216 00:10:21,487 --> 00:10:23,487 achieving our goals anytime soon. 217 00:10:23,489 --> 00:10:28,799 What continues to be true is that the terrible situation 218 00:10:28,794 --> 00:10:31,734 that we see right now inside of Syria is a result of the 219 00:10:31,731 --> 00:10:34,331 failed leadership of President Bashar al-Assad. 220 00:10:34,333 --> 00:10:37,033 And that's why this administration has asserted 221 00:10:37,036 --> 00:10:39,006 for years that President Assad must go. 222 00:10:39,005 --> 00:10:42,605 And the kind of political transition that we'd like to 223 00:10:42,608 --> 00:10:46,448 see inside of Syria is long overdue, and we're going to 224 00:10:46,445 --> 00:10:51,485 continue to push both sides to engage constructively in 225 00:10:51,484 --> 00:10:53,484 a U.N.-led process to bring about that 226 00:10:53,486 --> 00:10:54,856 political transition. 227 00:10:54,854 --> 00:10:59,394 In fact, President Obama had a protracted conversation 228 00:10:59,392 --> 00:11:01,892 with President Putin yesterday about this 229 00:11:01,894 --> 00:11:03,164 precise topic. 230 00:11:03,162 --> 00:11:05,232 There's an opportunity for the Russians to use the 231 00:11:05,231 --> 00:11:07,571 influence that they have with the Assad regime to 232 00:11:07,566 --> 00:11:10,366 compel them to live up to the commitments that they've 233 00:11:10,369 --> 00:11:13,269 made in the context of the Cessation of Hostilities and 234 00:11:13,272 --> 00:11:18,542 continue to constructively participate in the U.N.-led 235 00:11:18,544 --> 00:11:20,114 political talks. 236 00:11:20,112 --> 00:11:21,412 So this is something that the President is very 237 00:11:21,414 --> 00:11:22,414 focused on. 238 00:11:22,415 --> 00:11:26,515 The U.N. would point 239 00:11:26,519 --> 00:11:29,389 out it has not described the situation 240 00:11:29,388 --> 00:11:31,228 as breaking down. 241 00:11:31,223 --> 00:11:33,963 They have acknowledged that the talks have 242 00:11:33,959 --> 00:11:34,959 been postponed. 243 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:39,530 But there still is a framework in place, and I 244 00:11:39,532 --> 00:11:42,432 believe that there are still technical discussions that 245 00:11:42,435 --> 00:11:44,805 are taking place in Geneva even as we speak. 246 00:11:44,804 --> 00:11:48,944 So there still is a path forward here. 247 00:11:48,941 --> 00:11:54,251 And it's understandable that there is a frustration, to 248 00:11:54,246 --> 00:11:57,986 put it mildly, on the part of the opposition about the 249 00:11:57,983 --> 00:12:03,323 ongoing talks when we see repeated violations of the 250 00:12:03,322 --> 00:12:06,262 Cessation of Hostilities by the regime and 251 00:12:06,258 --> 00:12:07,828 supporting forces. 252 00:12:07,827 --> 00:12:10,227 We also see a continued tendency on the part of the 253 00:12:10,229 --> 00:12:15,839 regime to deprive some Syrians of badly needed 254 00:12:15,835 --> 00:12:17,935 humanitarian assistance. 255 00:12:17,937 --> 00:12:20,577 Part of the goal of the Cessation of Hostilities was 256 00:12:20,573 --> 00:12:22,573 to create space for humanitarian aid 257 00:12:22,575 --> 00:12:27,215 organizations to provide food, water and medicine to 258 00:12:27,213 --> 00:12:30,213 communities inside of Syria that have been deprived of 259 00:12:30,216 --> 00:12:34,456 those basic supplies for a long time. 260 00:12:34,453 --> 00:12:38,153 And we've seen the regime in too many instances either 261 00:12:38,157 --> 00:12:46,337 block those shipments or, in some cases, even prevent all 262 00:12:46,332 --> 00:12:49,072 of the material, all of the needed supplies from 263 00:12:49,068 --> 00:12:50,868 getting through. 264 00:12:50,870 --> 00:12:56,580 So certainly the position of the opposition groups is 265 00:12:56,575 --> 00:13:01,345 understandable, given the refusal of the Assad regime 266 00:13:01,347 --> 00:13:04,587 to steadfastly live up to the commitments that they 267 00:13:04,583 --> 00:13:06,583 made in the context of Cessation of Hostilities. 268 00:13:06,585 --> 00:13:10,525 And that's why we're going to continue to make the case 269 00:13:10,523 --> 00:13:12,523 to the opposition that they should participate in the 270 00:13:12,525 --> 00:13:16,165 talks, that that is the path that will resolve the core 271 00:13:16,162 --> 00:13:17,162 of this issue. 272 00:13:17,163 --> 00:13:19,863 We're also going to continue to make the case to the 273 00:13:19,865 --> 00:13:21,865 Russians that they should use the influence they have 274 00:13:21,867 --> 00:13:24,637 with the Assad regime to compel them to live up to 275 00:13:24,637 --> 00:13:26,637 the commitments that they made in the context of the 276 00:13:26,639 --> 00:13:29,179 cessation of hostilities and get back to the negotiating 277 00:13:29,175 --> 00:13:31,515 table in a constructive way. 278 00:13:31,510 --> 00:13:33,850 The Press: I think the opposition would dispute the 279 00:13:33,846 --> 00:13:35,446 characterization the U.N. 280 00:13:35,447 --> 00:13:38,947 apparently is making that there is still a path 281 00:13:38,951 --> 00:13:40,051 forward through diplomacy. 282 00:13:40,052 --> 00:13:42,992 If you are unsuccessful in encouraging them to get back 283 00:13:42,988 --> 00:13:47,088 to the table, what is the other option? 284 00:13:47,092 --> 00:13:50,062 Mr. Earnest: Well, right now, this is the option that 285 00:13:50,062 --> 00:13:52,762 we are pursuing because this is the option that addresses 286 00:13:52,765 --> 00:13:54,965 the core of the problem. 287 00:13:54,967 --> 00:13:56,367 It is -- 288 00:13:56,368 --> 00:13:57,038 The Press: But if the talks don't continue? 289 00:13:57,036 --> 00:13:58,776 If they don't come back? 290 00:13:58,771 --> 00:13:59,801 Mr. Earnest: This is why we're going to continue to 291 00:13:59,805 --> 00:14:01,945 make the case that they should. 292 00:14:01,941 --> 00:14:04,881 And there are ongoing technical discussions that 293 00:14:04,877 --> 00:14:07,917 are underway even as we speak in Geneva, led by the 294 00:14:07,913 --> 00:14:09,613 U.N., by many of the parties. 295 00:14:09,615 --> 00:14:12,415 But there's more work that needs to be done. 296 00:14:12,418 --> 00:14:16,158 I'm not papering over the fact that there needs to be 297 00:14:16,155 --> 00:14:20,695 a recommitment to this process, but it certainly is 298 00:14:20,693 --> 00:14:22,833 understandable that the opposition would like to see 299 00:14:22,828 --> 00:14:24,828 a recommitment on the part of the Assad regime to the 300 00:14:24,830 --> 00:14:30,200 cessation of hostilities to pave the way for successful 301 00:14:30,202 --> 00:14:31,502 negotiations to continue. 302 00:14:31,503 --> 00:14:33,073 The Press: And where -- aside from encouraging the 303 00:14:33,072 --> 00:14:37,612 rebels, what is the U.S. 304 00:14:37,610 --> 00:14:40,180 role at this point going forward? 305 00:14:40,179 --> 00:14:44,579 Mr. Earnest: Our role will continue to be to encourage 306 00:14:44,583 --> 00:14:46,583 all parties to live up to the cessation 307 00:14:46,585 --> 00:14:47,585 of hostilities. 308 00:14:47,586 --> 00:14:51,856 Unfortunately, we have seen just in recent days that 309 00:14:51,857 --> 00:14:58,367 that situation has frayed more rapidly. 310 00:14:58,364 --> 00:15:00,634 And that's a source of ongoing concern, 311 00:15:00,633 --> 00:15:02,633 particularly because it interferes with our ability 312 00:15:02,635 --> 00:15:05,805 to make progress in the political talks. 313 00:15:05,804 --> 00:15:08,104 We'll continue to engage the Russians, we'll continue to 314 00:15:08,107 --> 00:15:10,147 engage all parties to use whatever influence they 315 00:15:10,142 --> 00:15:12,642 have, either with the regime or the opposition, to 316 00:15:12,645 --> 00:15:16,015 encourage both sides to come together and to participate 317 00:15:16,015 --> 00:15:19,585 in these U.N.-led conversations. 318 00:15:19,585 --> 00:15:21,585 But there are other things that we can do, too. 319 00:15:21,587 --> 00:15:23,587 We can continue to work with the international community 320 00:15:23,589 --> 00:15:29,099 to apply even more pressure to ISIL. 321 00:15:29,094 --> 00:15:31,864 And Secretary Carter talked about some ideas the 322 00:15:31,864 --> 00:15:33,964 President had recently approved to step up that 323 00:15:33,966 --> 00:15:40,076 pressure inside of Iraq and certainly wouldn't rule out 324 00:15:40,072 --> 00:15:43,872 additional steps to ramp up the pressure against ISIL 325 00:15:43,876 --> 00:15:44,876 inside of Syria. 326 00:15:44,877 --> 00:15:46,877 As I mentioned, the President is always looking 327 00:15:46,879 --> 00:15:53,719 for suggestions from his national security team to 328 00:15:53,719 --> 00:15:56,589 increase the pressure on ISIL and the President is 329 00:15:56,588 --> 00:15:57,728 always looking for those ideas. 330 00:15:57,723 --> 00:16:01,823 And the President convened a meeting at the CIA just last 331 00:16:01,827 --> 00:16:04,297 week to discuss different elements of our proposal, 332 00:16:04,296 --> 00:16:06,896 and that is something that is happening on an 333 00:16:06,899 --> 00:16:07,599 ongoing basis. 334 00:16:07,599 --> 00:16:08,939 Jim. 335 00:16:08,934 --> 00:16:09,834 Nice to see you today. 336 00:16:09,835 --> 00:16:10,565 The Press: Thank you, Josh. 337 00:16:10,569 --> 00:16:11,499 Good to be here. 338 00:16:11,503 --> 00:16:13,403 Couple questions on the immigration hearing 339 00:16:13,405 --> 00:16:15,045 yesterday before the Supreme Court. 340 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:18,440 It seems as though both the justices and even the state 341 00:16:18,444 --> 00:16:23,684 of Texas conceded that, to your point of view, the 342 00:16:23,682 --> 00:16:26,022 White House point of view, that there's not enough 343 00:16:26,018 --> 00:16:28,718 money for the White House to deport all 11 million 344 00:16:28,721 --> 00:16:32,561 immigrants who are here, undocumented immigrants. 345 00:16:32,558 --> 00:16:38,768 But where it seemed to break down was that since they're 346 00:16:38,764 --> 00:16:42,634 already low priority, the ones among the 4 million 347 00:16:42,634 --> 00:16:45,474 that would be covered by the President's executive 348 00:16:45,471 --> 00:16:47,971 actions -- since they're already low priority for 349 00:16:47,973 --> 00:16:52,343 deportation, why do they need a special legal status, 350 00:16:52,344 --> 00:16:54,144 was -- seemed to be the question both from the bench 351 00:16:54,146 --> 00:16:55,816 and from Texans. 352 00:16:55,814 --> 00:16:57,954 Why are you pushing for that? 353 00:16:57,950 --> 00:17:00,320 Mr. Earnest: Well, I think the argument that we have 354 00:17:00,319 --> 00:17:02,319 made is actually one that many of our political 355 00:17:02,321 --> 00:17:06,721 opponents should actually be warm to. 356 00:17:06,725 --> 00:17:08,725 The argument that we have made is essentially that 357 00:17:08,727 --> 00:17:12,167 these individuals who are individuals that already 358 00:17:12,164 --> 00:17:14,564 have deep ties to this country -- in most cases, 359 00:17:14,566 --> 00:17:16,566 we're talking about individuals that are the 360 00:17:16,568 --> 00:17:21,978 parents of American citizens or are legal permanent 361 00:17:21,974 --> 00:17:24,314 residents to the United States, so these are people 362 00:17:24,309 --> 00:17:26,309 with deep ties and with deep family connections to the 363 00:17:26,311 --> 00:17:27,311 United States. 364 00:17:27,312 --> 00:17:29,312 That's why they're low priority. 365 00:17:29,314 --> 00:17:31,284 They're also individuals that have been here for 366 00:17:31,283 --> 00:17:32,583 several years already. 367 00:17:32,584 --> 00:17:35,884 But the case that the Obama administration has made is 368 00:17:35,888 --> 00:17:37,888 we should bring them out of the shadows. 369 00:17:37,890 --> 00:17:41,230 The benefits of doing that are we can submit them to a 370 00:17:41,226 --> 00:17:43,226 background check, make sure that they're not 371 00:17:43,228 --> 00:17:44,228 dangerous criminals. 372 00:17:44,229 --> 00:17:46,529 If they are, then we can expedite them for 373 00:17:46,532 --> 00:17:48,002 deportation. 374 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,540 We also can put them in a situation in which they're 375 00:17:51,537 --> 00:17:52,767 paying taxes. 376 00:17:52,771 --> 00:17:54,771 That also is good for our economy. 377 00:17:54,773 --> 00:17:57,113 It's good for reducing the deficit. 378 00:17:57,109 --> 00:17:59,309 When we talk about bringing much-needed accountability 379 00:17:59,311 --> 00:18:01,911 to our broken immigration system, right now you have 380 00:18:01,914 --> 00:18:07,454 individuals who are low-priority candidates 381 00:18:07,453 --> 00:18:08,453 for deportation. 382 00:18:08,454 --> 00:18:11,794 In many cases, they haven't been subject to a 383 00:18:11,790 --> 00:18:13,290 background check. 384 00:18:13,292 --> 00:18:15,932 In many cases, they're not paying taxes right now. 385 00:18:15,928 --> 00:18:19,198 So let's add some accountability to the system. 386 00:18:19,198 --> 00:18:21,198 Let's bring them out of the shadows. 387 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:22,200 Let's make them pay taxes. 388 00:18:22,201 --> 00:18:25,501 Let's make them subject -- let's subject them to a 389 00:18:25,504 --> 00:18:26,504 background check. 390 00:18:26,505 --> 00:18:28,505 That will enhance the security of our country. 391 00:18:28,507 --> 00:18:29,577 It will improve our economy. 392 00:18:29,575 --> 00:18:31,645 It will improve our fiscal situation. 393 00:18:31,643 --> 00:18:34,783 It also will give them the peace of mind to come out of 394 00:18:34,780 --> 00:18:35,880 the shadows. 395 00:18:35,881 --> 00:18:37,881 That also will send a clear signal to our law 396 00:18:37,883 --> 00:18:41,283 enforcement that we need to be focusing our efforts not 397 00:18:41,286 --> 00:18:45,326 just -- not on families, but on felons. 398 00:18:45,324 --> 00:18:48,394 And that is the rationale that we have put together, 399 00:18:48,393 --> 00:18:53,703 and that's why the proposal that we have put forward 400 00:18:53,699 --> 00:18:55,499 makes so much policy sense. 401 00:18:55,501 --> 00:18:57,971 It's good for our security; it's good for our economy; 402 00:18:57,970 --> 00:19:02,370 and it's good for having a system that's in mind with 403 00:19:02,374 --> 00:19:05,014 our values, both in terms of following the law, but also 404 00:19:05,010 --> 00:19:07,450 acknowledging that our heritage in this country is 405 00:19:07,446 --> 00:19:08,446 as a nation of immigrants. 406 00:19:08,447 --> 00:19:11,817 All of this policy is structured in that direction. 407 00:19:11,817 --> 00:19:14,687 It's why, frankly, the critics of this law have a 408 00:19:14,686 --> 00:19:15,926 really tough case to make. 409 00:19:15,921 --> 00:19:18,291 And it's why even people like Senator Rubio have 410 00:19:18,290 --> 00:19:21,160 described the current system that we have in place that 411 00:19:21,159 --> 00:19:24,029 doesn't require undocumented immigrants to pay taxes, it 412 00:19:24,029 --> 00:19:27,099 doesn't require them to submit to a background check. 413 00:19:27,099 --> 00:19:29,269 That's why Senator Rubio described the current system 414 00:19:29,268 --> 00:19:32,308 as the closest thing that we have to amnesty. 415 00:19:32,304 --> 00:19:34,474 And that's the argument that we've made, and that's why 416 00:19:34,473 --> 00:19:37,113 as a policy matter we believe this argument is 417 00:19:37,109 --> 00:19:38,339 quite potent. 418 00:19:38,343 --> 00:19:40,613 I understand that a different kind of argument 419 00:19:40,612 --> 00:19:41,612 is being made before the Court. 420 00:19:41,613 --> 00:19:43,583 It's one that's rooted in the President's legal 421 00:19:43,582 --> 00:19:46,582 authority to order this action. 422 00:19:46,585 --> 00:19:48,755 We feel we can have that argument on quite strong 423 00:19:48,754 --> 00:19:49,754 grounds as well. 424 00:19:49,755 --> 00:19:53,755 The Press: Is what the President wants to do, 425 00:19:53,759 --> 00:19:56,599 though, an unfair burden on states like Texas and, 426 00:19:56,595 --> 00:19:59,835 apparently, the other 25 who are complaining, in that -- 427 00:19:59,831 --> 00:20:02,631 in the case of Texas, what they're saying is that 428 00:20:02,634 --> 00:20:06,134 they'll have 400,000 people that they're going to have 429 00:20:06,138 --> 00:20:09,538 to give driver's licenses to, and that that's going to 430 00:20:09,541 --> 00:20:11,081 cost them more money, they're going to have to 431 00:20:11,076 --> 00:20:12,006 bring in more people. 432 00:20:12,010 --> 00:20:14,010 Isn't that something that the federal government 433 00:20:14,012 --> 00:20:15,282 should be considering? 434 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,420 Mr. Earnest: Well, let me say -- I'll say two things 435 00:20:17,416 --> 00:20:18,346 about that. 436 00:20:18,350 --> 00:20:22,820 The first is the chief law enforcement officials in the 437 00:20:22,821 --> 00:20:24,921 state of Texas don't agree with the Attorney General 438 00:20:24,923 --> 00:20:25,993 of Texas. 439 00:20:25,991 --> 00:20:27,191 They happen to take the same position that the Obama 440 00:20:27,192 --> 00:20:29,992 administration does. 441 00:20:29,995 --> 00:20:31,365 These are law enforcement officials in the largest 442 00:20:31,363 --> 00:20:36,003 counties in the state -- Dallas County, Austin, 443 00:20:36,001 --> 00:20:40,401 Texas, which is in Travis County, Dallas County -- all 444 00:20:40,405 --> 00:20:44,105 agree that this actually -- that the policies that the 445 00:20:44,109 --> 00:20:46,109 President has put forward would make their 446 00:20:46,111 --> 00:20:47,111 communities safer. 447 00:20:47,112 --> 00:20:49,112 They are strongly supportive of the system that would 448 00:20:49,114 --> 00:20:51,114 bring undocumented immigrants out of the 449 00:20:51,116 --> 00:20:53,816 shadows and submit them to a background check. 450 00:20:53,819 --> 00:20:55,819 These law enforcement officials who are 451 00:20:55,821 --> 00:20:57,821 responsible for the safety of their communities 452 00:20:57,823 --> 00:20:59,823 understand that would make their communities safer. 453 00:20:59,825 --> 00:21:00,825 That's a good thing. 454 00:21:00,826 --> 00:21:03,126 The other thing is I also happen to know about Texas 455 00:21:03,128 --> 00:21:07,698 -- Texas is a state that relies on income taxes and 456 00:21:07,699 --> 00:21:12,069 on sales taxes for its -- let me take it back, not on 457 00:21:12,070 --> 00:21:15,570 income taxes, but on sales taxes and on business taxes 458 00:21:15,574 --> 00:21:18,874 for their revenue base. 459 00:21:18,877 --> 00:21:21,717 Their revenue base would be enhanced if you had 460 00:21:24,016 --> 00:21:27,756 undocumented immigrants as a part of the system and 461 00:21:27,753 --> 00:21:28,783 paying taxes. 462 00:21:28,787 --> 00:21:30,787 It certainly would be good for the federal government, 463 00:21:30,789 --> 00:21:33,229 but there would be cascading benefits for states as well. 464 00:21:33,225 --> 00:21:40,635 And that's the argument that we have made, particularly 465 00:21:40,632 --> 00:21:42,632 when it comes to these questions about public 466 00:21:42,634 --> 00:21:46,604 safety -- leading public safety professionals, law 467 00:21:46,605 --> 00:21:49,845 enforcement officials in the state of Texas do not agree 468 00:21:49,841 --> 00:21:51,841 with the Texas Attorney General. 469 00:21:51,843 --> 00:21:53,983 They do agree with the Secretary of Homeland 470 00:21:53,979 --> 00:21:56,119 Security and President Obama, who believe that 471 00:21:56,114 --> 00:21:58,084 these undocumented immigrants should be 472 00:21:58,083 --> 00:22:00,083 subjected to a background check. 473 00:22:00,085 --> 00:22:02,085 The Press: Just one more on a different subject, and 474 00:22:02,087 --> 00:22:04,727 that is on this trip that the President is on. 475 00:22:04,723 --> 00:22:06,463 It was announced yesterday that he would visit not only 476 00:22:06,458 --> 00:22:09,098 the head of state of Britain, the Queen, which 477 00:22:09,094 --> 00:22:12,634 seems like that's justifiable, but that the 478 00:22:12,631 --> 00:22:15,531 President and Mrs. Obama would also have a lunch with 479 00:22:15,534 --> 00:22:18,074 Prince William and his wife. 480 00:22:18,070 --> 00:22:20,010 What's the justification for that? 481 00:22:20,005 --> 00:22:22,075 Is that something American taxpayers should be paying for? 482 00:22:22,074 --> 00:22:24,944 Is this just a celebrity get-together? 483 00:22:24,943 --> 00:22:27,913 Mr. Earnest: Look, the President is traveling to 484 00:22:27,913 --> 00:22:30,653 London and will spend a couple of days in the United 485 00:22:30,649 --> 00:22:33,489 Kingdom doing some important work, meeting with one of 486 00:22:36,088 --> 00:22:38,088 our closest allies, a country with whom we have a 487 00:22:38,090 --> 00:22:40,460 special relationship, to advance our national 488 00:22:40,459 --> 00:22:41,459 security interests. 489 00:22:41,460 --> 00:22:44,560 And in the President's extensive conversations with 490 00:22:44,563 --> 00:22:47,663 Prime Minister Cameron, they'll be focused on a 491 00:22:47,666 --> 00:22:49,836 range of issues related to the global economy, related 492 00:22:49,835 --> 00:22:52,905 to climate change, and certainly related to 493 00:22:52,904 --> 00:22:54,904 counterterrorism and homeland security that are 494 00:22:54,906 --> 00:22:57,276 critical to our national interests. 495 00:22:57,275 --> 00:23:00,545 President Obama has found Prime Minister Cameron to be 496 00:23:00,545 --> 00:23:03,615 an effective interlocutor and an effective partner in 497 00:23:03,615 --> 00:23:06,555 accomplishing goals that have been prioritized by 498 00:23:06,551 --> 00:23:07,551 both our countries. 499 00:23:07,552 --> 00:23:09,552 So this is an important trip. 500 00:23:09,554 --> 00:23:11,694 What's also important was the President also spend 501 00:23:11,690 --> 00:23:15,460 some time meeting with other leaders in the 502 00:23:15,460 --> 00:23:17,230 United Kingdom. 503 00:23:17,229 --> 00:23:19,369 And the President is looking forward to the opportunity 504 00:23:19,364 --> 00:23:22,704 that he'll have to have lunch with the Queen, but 505 00:23:22,701 --> 00:23:25,501 also to have a nice dinner with the Duke and Duchess 506 00:23:25,504 --> 00:23:27,144 of Cambridge. 507 00:23:27,139 --> 00:23:31,209 It certainly is an important part of public diplomacy, 508 00:23:31,209 --> 00:23:35,409 but I think it will be one of the more pleasant aspects 509 00:23:35,413 --> 00:23:36,853 of the trip that the President is certainly 510 00:23:36,848 --> 00:23:38,148 looking forward to. 511 00:23:38,150 --> 00:23:38,650 The Press: Can I follow up on that? 512 00:23:38,650 --> 00:23:39,650 Mr. Earnest: I'll come back to you. 513 00:23:39,651 --> 00:23:40,681 Chip. 514 00:23:40,685 --> 00:23:42,185 The Press: Thanks, Josh. 515 00:23:42,187 --> 00:23:46,057 Yesterday, you talked about the 28 pages and the fact 516 00:23:46,057 --> 00:23:48,497 that the President has basically said that it's in 517 00:23:48,493 --> 00:23:50,093 the hands of DNI Clapper right now. 518 00:23:50,095 --> 00:23:54,535 But after the briefing yesterday, Charlie Rose 519 00:23:54,533 --> 00:23:56,533 interviewed the President and he asked him if had read 520 00:23:56,535 --> 00:23:59,305 the 28 pages and he said, "I have a sense of what's 521 00:23:59,304 --> 00:24:00,574 in there." 522 00:24:00,572 --> 00:24:02,612 I think it's safe to assume that means he hasn't read 523 00:24:02,607 --> 00:24:03,647 them yet. 524 00:24:03,642 --> 00:24:05,682 And if I said why hasn't he read them, I'm sure you 525 00:24:05,677 --> 00:24:08,177 would tell me, because it's in the hands of Clapper. 526 00:24:08,180 --> 00:24:12,120 But will he eventually read these 28 pages? 527 00:24:12,117 --> 00:24:14,717 And there's a sense coming out of just in some of the 528 00:24:14,719 --> 00:24:17,519 chatter around Washington and online, there's a sense 529 00:24:17,522 --> 00:24:20,722 that the White House is downplaying these 28 pages 530 00:24:20,725 --> 00:24:22,695 -- number one, by the President saying, "I have a 531 00:24:22,694 --> 00:24:26,464 sense of what's in there" -- and also the President said 532 00:24:26,464 --> 00:24:30,574 to Charlie Rose, "I try not to personally get engaged in 533 00:24:30,569 --> 00:24:33,009 each and every decision that's being made 534 00:24:33,004 --> 00:24:34,874 on classification." 535 00:24:34,873 --> 00:24:36,673 Well, this isn't just each and every decision. 536 00:24:36,675 --> 00:24:39,415 As we discussed yesterday, this is a pretty important 537 00:24:39,411 --> 00:24:41,851 declassification decision. 538 00:24:41,847 --> 00:24:42,747 Is the White House downplaying it? 539 00:24:42,747 --> 00:24:44,347 Is he going to read them eventually? 540 00:24:44,349 --> 00:24:47,289 And will this be his decision in the end, or will 541 00:24:47,285 --> 00:24:49,225 he simply follow Clapper's advice? 542 00:24:49,221 --> 00:24:51,561 Mr. Earnest: I think what the President was referring 543 00:24:51,556 --> 00:24:53,826 to in his conversation with Charlie Rose is the fact 544 00:24:53,825 --> 00:24:55,925 that he's been briefed about the contents of those 28 545 00:24:55,927 --> 00:25:00,237 pages, and the President noted, as I did yesterday, 546 00:25:00,232 --> 00:25:02,232 that there's a well-established process for 547 00:25:02,234 --> 00:25:04,534 the intelligence community to do a careful review to 548 00:25:04,536 --> 00:25:09,276 determine which, if any, of those pages can be released 549 00:25:09,274 --> 00:25:12,874 to the public without damaging our national security. 550 00:25:12,878 --> 00:25:15,378 There's a well-established process for considering what 551 00:25:15,380 --> 00:25:18,220 I would acknowledge are important questions. 552 00:25:18,216 --> 00:25:21,286 I don't think there's been an attempt by anybody at the 553 00:25:21,286 --> 00:25:23,286 White House to downplay this effort. 554 00:25:23,288 --> 00:25:25,758 In fact, I think there's been a concerted attempt by 555 00:25:25,757 --> 00:25:28,957 everybody at the White House to make sure that this 556 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,900 follows the standard process. 557 00:25:30,896 --> 00:25:32,896 I think that is what the American people would expect 558 00:25:32,898 --> 00:25:36,568 when we're talking about something as significant as 559 00:25:36,568 --> 00:25:41,378 information related to the terror attacks of 9/11. 560 00:25:41,373 --> 00:25:44,073 So I think the President is reiterating the position 561 00:25:44,075 --> 00:25:46,775 that I tried to articulate yesterday, which is that 562 00:25:46,778 --> 00:25:48,778 there's a well-established process for considering 563 00:25:48,780 --> 00:25:50,780 these questions, and that's the process that 564 00:25:50,782 --> 00:25:51,782 we're following. 565 00:25:51,783 --> 00:25:53,783 At this point, I think it's too early to say whether or 566 00:25:53,785 --> 00:25:55,755 not the President would weigh in on that process. 567 00:25:55,754 --> 00:25:57,954 I think he told Charlie that he was reluctant to because 568 00:25:57,956 --> 00:25:59,956 there is such a well-established process for 569 00:25:59,958 --> 00:26:01,158 considering these questions. 570 00:26:01,159 --> 00:26:04,329 Our intelligence community understands what's necessary 571 00:26:04,329 --> 00:26:07,429 to protect the American public. 572 00:26:07,432 --> 00:26:12,502 They also understand that there is a legitimate public 573 00:26:12,504 --> 00:26:14,544 interest in more of this information being made 574 00:26:14,539 --> 00:26:16,309 public if it can be. 575 00:26:16,308 --> 00:26:18,848 And that's the question that they're working through 576 00:26:18,843 --> 00:26:21,243 right now as it relates to these materials. 577 00:26:21,246 --> 00:26:25,786 I'll just reiterate that there is already extensive 578 00:26:25,784 --> 00:26:30,354 public material that has been made public by the 9/11 579 00:26:30,355 --> 00:26:32,325 Commission -- that is a separate body but an 580 00:26:32,324 --> 00:26:36,024 outside, blue ribbon entity -- that took a close look at 581 00:26:36,027 --> 00:26:39,227 what happened in the run-up to 9/11, laid out a whole 582 00:26:39,230 --> 00:26:41,600 series of reforms that should be implemented to 583 00:26:41,599 --> 00:26:44,899 ensure that something like that never happens again. 584 00:26:44,903 --> 00:26:51,213 And that report was quite clear about the evidence 585 00:26:51,209 --> 00:26:55,049 that they found and didn't find about what led to the 586 00:26:55,046 --> 00:26:56,346 terror attacks of 9/11. 587 00:26:56,348 --> 00:27:01,018 And what they concluded I think merits repeating, 588 00:27:01,019 --> 00:27:04,159 which is that they found no evidence that the Saudi 589 00:27:04,155 --> 00:27:06,525 government as an institution or that senior Saudi 590 00:27:06,524 --> 00:27:08,494 government officials knowingly supported the 591 00:27:08,493 --> 00:27:09,523 9/11 plotters. 592 00:27:09,527 --> 00:27:11,697 That is an important fact. 593 00:27:11,696 --> 00:27:13,496 And there certainly is public interest in 594 00:27:13,498 --> 00:27:15,298 understanding that fact. 595 00:27:15,300 --> 00:27:19,100 That report has been available for years now. 596 00:27:19,104 --> 00:27:21,244 The Press: Just one more follow-up from that interview. 597 00:27:21,239 --> 00:27:23,239 The President at one point said, "The single most 598 00:27:23,241 --> 00:27:26,781 important question I'm asked these days from other world 599 00:27:26,778 --> 00:27:29,148 leaders is 'What's going on with your elections?' 600 00:27:29,147 --> 00:27:32,617 " Have you been present when the President has explained 601 00:27:32,617 --> 00:27:34,617 what's going on with our elections to other leaders? 602 00:27:34,619 --> 00:27:36,819 Or do you know from talking to others -- what is the 603 00:27:36,821 --> 00:27:39,161 President's answer to that question when he's talking 604 00:27:39,157 --> 00:27:40,187 to foreign leaders? 605 00:27:40,191 --> 00:27:44,661 Mr. Earnest: The kind of question that the President 606 00:27:44,662 --> 00:27:47,502 gives in those settings is the same kind of answer that 607 00:27:47,499 --> 00:27:49,669 he's given publicly when asked that question. 608 00:27:49,667 --> 00:27:52,367 Look, it's not just -- and I think the President makes 609 00:27:52,370 --> 00:27:54,370 this point in the interview as well -- the President 610 00:27:54,372 --> 00:27:57,072 doesn't just get this question from people overseas. 611 00:27:57,075 --> 00:27:59,045 This is the kind of question that's on the mind of 612 00:27:59,044 --> 00:28:01,314 Americans across the country right now as well. 613 00:28:01,312 --> 00:28:04,982 And I don't think there are any easy answers to it. 614 00:28:04,983 --> 00:28:06,983 The reason that the President raised it in the 615 00:28:06,985 --> 00:28:10,525 context of this interview is he was asked, given all of 616 00:28:10,522 --> 00:28:12,692 the built-in advantages that we have as a country -- 617 00:28:12,690 --> 00:28:16,690 we've got an economy that's the envy of the world, we've 618 00:28:16,694 --> 00:28:22,904 got a military that is stronger than any other 619 00:28:22,901 --> 00:28:29,841 military in the history of the planet, we have a 620 00:28:29,841 --> 00:28:36,611 society and a culture that other countries and other 621 00:28:36,614 --> 00:28:39,914 cultures and other populations find remarkably 622 00:28:39,918 --> 00:28:42,858 attractive -- that gives us a lot of influence around 623 00:28:42,854 --> 00:28:44,124 the world. 624 00:28:44,122 --> 00:28:45,422 All those are good things. 625 00:28:45,423 --> 00:28:49,193 And the question is, where is the source of our 626 00:28:49,194 --> 00:28:51,064 potential downfall? 627 00:28:51,062 --> 00:28:54,932 And the argument that the President has made on a 628 00:28:54,933 --> 00:28:57,233 number of occasions, publicly and privately, both 629 00:28:57,235 --> 00:29:02,645 at home and overseas, is that our greatest risk -- or 630 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:08,150 the significant risk here, given that dynamic, lies 631 00:29:08,146 --> 00:29:10,816 within the dysfunction of our politics. 632 00:29:10,815 --> 00:29:13,685 We need to continue to demonstrate an ability to 633 00:29:13,685 --> 00:29:16,455 manage all those advantages and preserve that edge. 634 00:29:16,454 --> 00:29:17,654 The Press: Does that apply to both parties? 635 00:29:17,655 --> 00:29:19,095 Mr. Earnest: The President acknowledged that that was 636 00:29:19,090 --> 00:29:20,590 the case. 637 00:29:20,592 --> 00:29:22,892 I think the best example of this is -- there is a 638 00:29:22,894 --> 00:29:25,634 tendency, particularly when the United States has so 639 00:29:25,630 --> 00:29:28,300 many built-in advantages over other countries, which 640 00:29:28,299 --> 00:29:31,269 is to turn inward and to suggest that we should try 641 00:29:31,269 --> 00:29:33,239 to keep people out, or that we should build walls, or 642 00:29:33,238 --> 00:29:36,138 that we should not seek to engage countries around 643 00:29:36,141 --> 00:29:37,141 the world. 644 00:29:37,142 --> 00:29:39,142 That is exactly the wrong response -- that if we want 645 00:29:39,144 --> 00:29:41,184 to continue to cultivate all of the advantages that we 646 00:29:41,179 --> 00:29:43,549 have, we need to look for opportunities to more deeply 647 00:29:43,548 --> 00:29:44,548 engage around the world. 648 00:29:44,549 --> 00:29:46,549 That will enhance our national security. 649 00:29:46,551 --> 00:29:51,021 That will make our economy even more vibrant and filled 650 00:29:51,022 --> 00:29:53,022 with opportunity than it already is. 651 00:29:55,226 --> 00:29:57,226 There is no doubt that there's a strain of that 652 00:29:57,228 --> 00:30:02,898 argument that's being advanced by politicians in 653 00:30:02,901 --> 00:30:04,901 both the Democratic and Republican Party. 654 00:30:04,903 --> 00:30:07,643 And the President has advocated a different 655 00:30:07,639 --> 00:30:10,179 approach, and at least in the context of our 656 00:30:10,175 --> 00:30:13,015 elections, the President will have numerous 657 00:30:13,011 --> 00:30:15,881 opportunities, I expect, to make an argument to the 658 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,250 voters about the path that he has chosen to pursue, 659 00:30:19,250 --> 00:30:22,920 which is to more deeply engage the world and 660 00:30:22,921 --> 00:30:25,521 continue to build the kind of multilateral 661 00:30:25,523 --> 00:30:27,663 relationships that are critical to the continued 662 00:30:27,659 --> 00:30:30,659 strength of our economy and that are surely critical to 663 00:30:30,662 --> 00:30:33,032 our ongoing efforts to advance our interests around 664 00:30:33,031 --> 00:30:35,031 the world, to protect our national security and to 665 00:30:35,033 --> 00:30:37,533 protect our homeland. 666 00:30:37,535 --> 00:30:39,475 Gregory. 667 00:30:39,470 --> 00:30:40,370 The Press: Thank you. 668 00:30:40,371 --> 00:30:42,371 Lisa Monaco gave a speech last month in which she 669 00:30:42,373 --> 00:30:45,573 promised more transparency on civilian casualties for 670 00:30:45,577 --> 00:30:46,807 U.S. airstrikes. 671 00:30:46,811 --> 00:30:48,181 Can you give us an update on where that is? 672 00:30:48,179 --> 00:30:49,519 She said it would be coming in upcoming weeks, but that 673 00:30:49,514 --> 00:30:51,084 was six weeks ago. 674 00:30:51,082 --> 00:30:52,112 Mr. Earnest: This is something that the 675 00:30:52,116 --> 00:30:55,116 administration is still working on. 676 00:30:55,119 --> 00:30:57,989 And it has been a few weeks since she's given her 677 00:30:57,989 --> 00:31:00,459 speech, but I don't have an update for you in terms of 678 00:31:00,458 --> 00:31:02,628 the time frame, when something like that might 679 00:31:02,627 --> 00:31:03,627 be released. 680 00:31:03,628 --> 00:31:05,628 But we'll certainly keep you posted. 681 00:31:05,630 --> 00:31:07,630 The Press: Pentagon officials are telling us 682 00:31:07,632 --> 00:31:09,272 that there have been some rules -- changes in the 683 00:31:09,267 --> 00:31:10,737 rules of engagement against the Islamic State that give 684 00:31:10,735 --> 00:31:14,705 the authorization for airstrikes to commanders 685 00:31:14,706 --> 00:31:17,346 closer to the field, and that there's now sort of a 686 00:31:17,342 --> 00:31:19,912 sliding scale on how many civilian casualties are 687 00:31:19,911 --> 00:31:24,881 acceptable -- up to 10, depending on the value of 688 00:31:24,882 --> 00:31:28,382 the target, the imminent threat posed by that target, 689 00:31:28,386 --> 00:31:29,386 et cetera. 690 00:31:29,387 --> 00:31:33,057 Did the President authorize these changes to the rules 691 00:31:33,057 --> 00:31:33,887 of engagement? 692 00:31:33,891 --> 00:31:38,201 And how do you square those with his attempts to sort of 693 00:31:38,196 --> 00:31:40,166 balance prosecution of the war against the Islamic 694 00:31:40,164 --> 00:31:43,264 State with upholding the American values he 695 00:31:43,268 --> 00:31:44,298 talks about? 696 00:31:44,302 --> 00:31:50,072 Mr. Earnest: Well, I don't have a detailed assessment 697 00:31:50,074 --> 00:31:52,544 of the rules of engagement to share with you right now. 698 00:31:52,543 --> 00:31:54,643 The Department of Defense can most effectively talk 699 00:31:54,646 --> 00:31:55,816 about that. 700 00:31:55,813 --> 00:31:58,053 What I can tell you is that there has been a principle 701 00:31:58,049 --> 00:32:02,119 that our country has long subscribed to that the 702 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:08,130 President believes is a priority, which is that a 703 00:32:11,562 --> 00:32:17,002 blunt assessment of both moral questions and 704 00:32:17,001 --> 00:32:21,971 strategic questions lead to the conclusion that the 705 00:32:21,973 --> 00:32:25,613 Department of Defense of the United States of America 706 00:32:25,610 --> 00:32:28,510 goes to great lengths to avoid civilian casualties. 707 00:32:30,748 --> 00:32:33,618 Again, I think the moral questions that are inherent 708 00:32:33,618 --> 00:32:37,218 there are obvious and important. 709 00:32:37,221 --> 00:32:44,931 But what's also true is that the United States military 710 00:32:44,929 --> 00:32:48,599 undertaking operations in the Middle East that result 711 00:32:48,599 --> 00:32:54,909 in the death of innocent civilians only makes it 712 00:32:54,906 --> 00:32:56,546 harder to accomplish our goals. 713 00:32:56,541 --> 00:33:00,981 And that's why you've seen our national security 714 00:33:00,978 --> 00:33:03,878 officials be justifiably proud of the great lengths 715 00:33:03,881 --> 00:33:06,481 that we've gone to to avoid those civilian casualties, 716 00:33:06,484 --> 00:33:11,694 certainly to greater lengths than our adversaries in 717 00:33:11,689 --> 00:33:12,859 this conflict. 718 00:33:12,857 --> 00:33:18,867 And it's why the administration continues to 719 00:33:18,863 --> 00:33:26,133 look for ways to be more transparent about those efforts. 720 00:33:26,137 --> 00:33:28,507 There is a regular process, Gregory, that I know you've 721 00:33:28,506 --> 00:33:32,776 taken note of, where the Department of Defense makes 722 00:33:32,777 --> 00:33:37,987 regular public declarations about the results of 723 00:33:37,982 --> 00:33:40,382 specific operations. 724 00:33:40,385 --> 00:33:46,055 And those results include an accounting of potential 725 00:33:46,057 --> 00:33:48,297 impacts on noncombatants. 726 00:33:48,292 --> 00:33:53,162 And this kind of accountability and 727 00:33:53,164 --> 00:33:54,864 transparency is something that the President believes 728 00:33:54,866 --> 00:33:59,506 is consistent with our values and is important. 729 00:33:59,504 --> 00:34:01,644 It's something the Department of Defense 730 00:34:01,639 --> 00:34:03,639 continues to do, and something that the President 731 00:34:03,641 --> 00:34:06,311 is seeking to expand upon. 732 00:34:06,310 --> 00:34:10,420 And it's an important part, as I was mentioning to Chip, 733 00:34:10,415 --> 00:34:15,425 of why the United States and our values continue to give 734 00:34:15,420 --> 00:34:18,260 us important credibility around the world. 735 00:34:18,256 --> 00:34:21,656 And when we undertake operations or engage in 736 00:34:21,659 --> 00:34:24,159 tactics that undermine our values, that undermines our 737 00:34:24,162 --> 00:34:25,592 national security. 738 00:34:25,596 --> 00:34:28,166 That's exactly why the President, for example, 739 00:34:28,166 --> 00:34:32,406 outlawed the use of torture during his first week in 740 00:34:32,403 --> 00:34:38,373 office, because of the impact that has on both 741 00:34:40,678 --> 00:34:44,278 moral questions, but also on broader national security 742 00:34:44,282 --> 00:34:47,122 considerations about living up to the high values that 743 00:34:47,118 --> 00:34:49,558 we've established for ourselves. 744 00:34:49,554 --> 00:34:51,124 Suzanne. 745 00:34:51,122 --> 00:34:52,022 The Press: I want to go back to the Vice President's 746 00:34:52,023 --> 00:34:54,523 comments yesterday in criticizing Benjamin 747 00:34:54,525 --> 00:34:56,395 Netanyahu, the Prime Minister there. 748 00:34:56,394 --> 00:34:59,494 He said, "the present course Israel is on is not one that 749 00:34:59,497 --> 00:35:01,837 is likely to secure its existence as a Jewish 750 00:35:01,833 --> 00:35:02,803 democratic state. 751 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,170 We have to make sure that happens." 752 00:35:04,168 --> 00:35:07,108 And then he goes on to say that it is -- he expresses 753 00:35:07,104 --> 00:35:08,904 overwhelming frustration. 754 00:35:08,906 --> 00:35:10,506 You talked about the unshakeable 755 00:35:10,508 --> 00:35:11,978 bond between the U.S. 756 00:35:11,976 --> 00:35:13,176 and Israel, but can you talk about whether or not the 757 00:35:13,177 --> 00:35:16,547 President shares the Vice President's sentiments, the 758 00:35:16,547 --> 00:35:19,787 feelings of overwhelming frustration on the Israeli 759 00:35:19,784 --> 00:35:22,324 part of the government that has not promoted this 760 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,390 peace accord? 761 00:35:24,388 --> 00:35:26,358 Mr. Earnest: Well, Suzanne, I think what is true is that 762 00:35:26,357 --> 00:35:30,357 this administration, particularly Secretary Kerry 763 00:35:30,361 --> 00:35:33,201 and Vice President Biden and President Obama, have all 764 00:35:33,197 --> 00:35:37,907 expended significant time and energy and resources to 765 00:35:37,902 --> 00:35:40,402 facilitating conversations between the Israelis and 766 00:35:40,404 --> 00:35:43,404 Palestinians to find a two-state solution. 767 00:35:43,407 --> 00:35:50,017 That is a policy that American Presidents in both 768 00:35:50,014 --> 00:35:57,024 parties have pursued, and none have pursued it more 769 00:35:57,021 --> 00:35:59,191 aggressively than this administration. 770 00:35:59,190 --> 00:36:01,430 You'll recall a couple of years ago that -- as my 771 00:36:01,425 --> 00:36:03,725 colleague, Jen Psaki, can attest, when she worked with 772 00:36:03,728 --> 00:36:07,528 the State Department -- that Secretary Kerry was a 773 00:36:07,532 --> 00:36:10,632 frequent visitor to that region in trying to bring 774 00:36:10,635 --> 00:36:15,105 all sides, particularly the Israelis and Palestinians, 775 00:36:15,106 --> 00:36:17,476 to the negotiating table in a constructive fashion that 776 00:36:17,475 --> 00:36:21,375 could yield a constructive result. 777 00:36:21,379 --> 00:36:24,549 Unfortunately, that progress didn't materialize. 778 00:36:24,549 --> 00:36:29,559 And that is a source of significant frustration. 779 00:36:29,554 --> 00:36:33,224 There certainly is frustration with both sides 780 00:36:33,224 --> 00:36:35,224 that we have encountered. 781 00:36:35,226 --> 00:36:39,796 But we've also been clear that -- and this is what 782 00:36:39,797 --> 00:36:41,867 Vice President Biden I think is ultimately talking about 783 00:36:41,866 --> 00:36:48,136 here -- the United States has long supported the idea 784 00:36:48,139 --> 00:36:50,979 of a two-state solution because it has a potential 785 00:36:50,975 --> 00:36:56,145 to resolve one of the most combustible flashpoints in 786 00:36:56,147 --> 00:36:59,887 an already volatile region of the world. 787 00:36:59,884 --> 00:37:03,454 But it also happens to be in the clear strategic interest 788 00:37:03,454 --> 00:37:05,454 of our closest ally in the Middle East, Israel. 789 00:37:07,925 --> 00:37:15,535 So resolving this question is not just a wished-for 790 00:37:15,533 --> 00:37:17,533 legacy item of the administration. 791 00:37:17,535 --> 00:37:20,935 It is a position that we take and advocate for 792 00:37:20,938 --> 00:37:25,348 because of our sincere concern for the national 793 00:37:25,343 --> 00:37:28,743 security of our closest ally in the Middle East, Israel. 794 00:37:28,746 --> 00:37:30,986 That's what we're focused on. 795 00:37:30,982 --> 00:37:35,522 And the inability to make that progress 796 00:37:35,519 --> 00:37:36,519 is frustrating. 797 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,160 And that's what Vice President Biden was giving 798 00:37:39,156 --> 00:37:40,826 voice to yesterday. 799 00:37:40,825 --> 00:37:41,725 The Press: In light of that frustration, is the 800 00:37:41,726 --> 00:37:44,726 President resigned that a two-state solution or peace 801 00:37:44,729 --> 00:37:47,099 between the Israelis and Palestinians will not happen 802 00:37:47,098 --> 00:37:48,798 under his administration? 803 00:37:48,799 --> 00:37:50,269 Mr. Earnest: It is, and that's something that we've 804 00:37:50,267 --> 00:37:53,037 expressed in the past, that this is not something that's 805 00:37:53,037 --> 00:37:54,107 likely to happen while President Obama remains 806 00:37:54,105 --> 00:37:55,905 in office. 807 00:37:55,906 --> 00:38:00,446 The extent of the differences between the two 808 00:38:00,444 --> 00:38:02,614 sides are significant enough that it's not something 809 00:38:02,613 --> 00:38:04,783 that's going to get resolved in the next nine months. 810 00:38:04,782 --> 00:38:05,512 The Press: And on the legislation, the 9/11 811 00:38:05,516 --> 00:38:08,586 legislation, both Democratic candidates who are fighting 812 00:38:08,586 --> 00:38:11,386 for the presidency, the nomination, Hillary Clinton 813 00:38:11,389 --> 00:38:15,259 and Bernie Sanders, support the legislation that would 814 00:38:15,259 --> 00:38:18,429 allow those victims of 9/11 to sue foreign governments, 815 00:38:18,429 --> 00:38:21,229 including Saudi Arabia if they were, in fact, involved 816 00:38:21,232 --> 00:38:22,402 in those attacks. 817 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,040 In light of the fact that you said the President and 818 00:38:25,036 --> 00:38:27,476 the administration feel that that's a dangerous 819 00:38:27,471 --> 00:38:30,211 precedent, is the President concerned at all that they 820 00:38:30,207 --> 00:38:33,977 -- if they were in office would go ahead and support 821 00:38:33,978 --> 00:38:36,918 that legislation that you say is so dangerous to the 822 00:38:36,914 --> 00:38:39,054 administration and its relationship with other 823 00:38:39,050 --> 00:38:40,920 foreign countries? 824 00:38:40,918 --> 00:38:42,788 Mr. Earnest: Well, I'll let the individual candidates 825 00:38:42,787 --> 00:38:45,027 explain the position that they have on 826 00:38:45,022 --> 00:38:47,192 this legislation. 827 00:38:47,191 --> 00:38:50,691 Obviously, we've had an opportunity in here, for 828 00:38:50,695 --> 00:38:53,065 better or worse, to discuss our position on this 829 00:38:53,064 --> 00:38:55,364 legislation extensively. 830 00:38:55,366 --> 00:38:59,806 As I noted, I was gratified to see Speaker Ryan indicate 831 00:38:59,804 --> 00:39:03,704 his shared concern about the potential unintended 832 00:39:03,708 --> 00:39:06,908 consequences of this bill. 833 00:39:06,911 --> 00:39:09,811 So we're going to continue to make our case to members 834 00:39:09,814 --> 00:39:15,524 of Congress and help people understand that what some 835 00:39:15,519 --> 00:39:21,529 might view as a way to offer support and well-deserved 836 00:39:25,329 --> 00:39:29,329 assistance to those families who lost so much on 9/11, 837 00:39:29,333 --> 00:39:32,833 there are significant, serious, unintended 838 00:39:32,837 --> 00:39:38,307 consequences that would endanger principles that the 839 00:39:38,309 --> 00:39:40,309 United States significantly benefits from. 840 00:39:40,311 --> 00:39:42,711 The Press: So why would there be daylight between 841 00:39:42,713 --> 00:39:45,353 the President and his former Secretary of State regarding 842 00:39:45,349 --> 00:39:46,519 something that's so critical to the United States' 843 00:39:46,517 --> 00:39:50,487 relationships with other foreign leaders on this issue? 844 00:39:50,488 --> 00:39:52,058 Mr. Earnest: Well, again, I think I've gone to great 845 00:39:52,056 --> 00:39:53,856 lengths to try to help you understand exactly what our 846 00:39:53,858 --> 00:39:54,658 position is. 847 00:39:54,658 --> 00:39:56,498 I would encourage you to check with Secretary 848 00:39:56,494 --> 00:39:58,194 Clinton's team for an explanation of why she's 849 00:39:58,195 --> 00:39:59,565 taken the position that she has. 850 00:39:59,563 --> 00:40:01,063 The Press: It's different than the administration. 851 00:40:01,065 --> 00:40:03,235 Is there any concern from the President that if you 852 00:40:03,234 --> 00:40:05,234 had a Democratic President following him, that 853 00:40:05,236 --> 00:40:09,906 something as important and potentially damaging to U.S. 854 00:40:09,907 --> 00:40:11,707 relations, as you say, with other leaders would 855 00:40:11,709 --> 00:40:14,979 move forward? 856 00:40:14,979 --> 00:40:17,319 Mr. Earnest: Well, again, I think that's a hypothetical. 857 00:40:17,314 --> 00:40:19,314 This is something that's still being debated in 858 00:40:19,316 --> 00:40:22,116 Congress, and the presidential election is 859 00:40:22,119 --> 00:40:26,489 still something that's the subject of intense debate on 860 00:40:26,490 --> 00:40:28,130 the campaign trail as well. 861 00:40:28,125 --> 00:40:30,095 What we're focused on right now is continuing to make 862 00:40:30,094 --> 00:40:32,764 the case to the public and to Congress what our 863 00:40:32,763 --> 00:40:36,103 concerns with this legislation are. 864 00:40:36,100 --> 00:40:37,700 Jordan. 865 00:40:37,701 --> 00:40:38,671 The Press: Thanks, Josh. 866 00:40:38,669 --> 00:40:39,869 In addition to Speaker Ryan's concerns about the 867 00:40:39,870 --> 00:40:43,740 bill, Senator Graham has blocked the legislation in 868 00:40:43,741 --> 00:40:45,111 the Senate by placing a hold on it. 869 00:40:45,109 --> 00:40:47,949 Is the White House encouraged that there maybe 870 00:40:47,945 --> 00:40:51,485 seems to be some momentum behind blocking this bill 871 00:40:51,482 --> 00:40:52,752 in Congress? 872 00:40:52,750 --> 00:40:55,190 And what is the White House doing to try to cultivate 873 00:40:55,186 --> 00:40:58,486 some more support to try to stop the bill from happening? 874 00:40:58,489 --> 00:41:00,489 Mr. Earnest: Well, I'm not aware of any 875 00:41:00,491 --> 00:41:02,491 presidential-level conversations about this 876 00:41:02,493 --> 00:41:05,433 legislation that have come up with members of Congress, 877 00:41:05,429 --> 00:41:07,429 but I know that there have been senior members of the 878 00:41:07,431 --> 00:41:09,431 administration, including White House officials, who 879 00:41:09,433 --> 00:41:11,503 have been in touch with senior officials on Capitol 880 00:41:11,502 --> 00:41:13,702 Hill about our concerns. 881 00:41:13,704 --> 00:41:18,914 We certainly are interested in a dialogue on this issue. 882 00:41:18,909 --> 00:41:23,749 And, look, in the current political climate, 883 00:41:23,747 --> 00:41:26,887 bipartisan support is rare. 884 00:41:26,884 --> 00:41:32,354 But I think in this instance, it's an indication 885 00:41:32,356 --> 00:41:35,096 of just how significant these questions are. 886 00:41:35,092 --> 00:41:38,332 And we're obviously gratified that there are 887 00:41:38,329 --> 00:41:43,999 other Republicans who have taken a close look at this 888 00:41:44,001 --> 00:41:47,771 legislation and recognized the serious, unintended 889 00:41:47,771 --> 00:41:51,611 consequences that could result from its passage. 890 00:41:51,609 --> 00:41:52,609 JC. 891 00:41:52,610 --> 00:41:53,610 The Press: Thank you, Josh. 892 00:41:53,611 --> 00:41:56,811 As the President and First Lady lunch with Her Majesty, 893 00:41:56,814 --> 00:42:01,454 Queen Elizabeth II, and His Royal Highness the Duke of 894 00:42:01,452 --> 00:42:05,392 Edinburgh on Friday at Windsor Castle, it is the 895 00:42:05,389 --> 00:42:09,489 day after the Queen's 90th birthday, now the 896 00:42:09,493 --> 00:42:12,233 longest-reigning monarch in British history. 897 00:42:12,229 --> 00:42:16,399 What special birthday wish might the President be 898 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:21,640 giving the Queen from the American people as a special 899 00:42:21,639 --> 00:42:24,039 tribute to this very historic day? 900 00:42:24,041 --> 00:42:26,741 Mr. Earnest: Well, the President will have an 901 00:42:26,744 --> 00:42:30,244 opportunity to speak to all of you during his visit 902 00:42:30,247 --> 00:42:31,247 to London. 903 00:42:31,248 --> 00:42:33,248 He'll do a news conference with Prime Minister Cameron 904 00:42:33,250 --> 00:42:35,250 at the conclusion of their meeting, and I suspect the 905 00:42:35,252 --> 00:42:37,492 President will be given an opportunity to offer his 906 00:42:37,488 --> 00:42:41,388 public birthday wishes in the context of that 907 00:42:41,392 --> 00:42:42,392 news conference. 908 00:42:42,393 --> 00:42:46,693 So I don't want to speak for him too extensively, but the 909 00:42:46,697 --> 00:42:49,867 President has had an opportunity to spend time 910 00:42:49,867 --> 00:42:52,907 with Queen Elizabeth on a variety of occasions, and 911 00:42:52,903 --> 00:42:57,413 each time the President has come away with an even 912 00:42:57,408 --> 00:43:00,548 deeper personal affection for her. 913 00:43:00,544 --> 00:43:03,984 She is an important symbol of a country with whom the 914 00:43:03,981 --> 00:43:08,051 United States has a special relationship. 915 00:43:08,052 --> 00:43:15,092 But she also is a human being whose charisma and a 916 00:43:15,092 --> 00:43:19,332 sense of nobility and honor that is something that I 917 00:43:19,330 --> 00:43:22,100 think people around the world are attracted to. 918 00:43:22,099 --> 00:43:25,599 And that is something that she conveys not just on the 919 00:43:25,602 --> 00:43:28,702 broad public stage but it's also something that is 920 00:43:28,706 --> 00:43:32,206 evident in the President's personal interactions with her. 921 00:43:32,209 --> 00:43:35,449 And I think that's an important part of why the 922 00:43:35,446 --> 00:43:37,686 President has enjoyed every opportunity that he has had 923 00:43:37,681 --> 00:43:39,681 to spend some time with her in private, and it's 924 00:43:39,683 --> 00:43:41,883 certainly why he's looking forward to his Friday 925 00:43:41,885 --> 00:43:42,855 afternoon lunch. 926 00:43:42,853 --> 00:43:44,653 The Press: Certainly a lot to learn from someone who's 927 00:43:44,655 --> 00:43:47,155 been around for so long and through so much. 928 00:43:47,157 --> 00:43:52,197 Mr. Earnest: She certainly has seen as much human 929 00:43:52,196 --> 00:43:55,936 history from a rather unique perspective as anyone else. 930 00:43:55,933 --> 00:44:00,133 The Press: Another question about the Vice President's 931 00:44:00,137 --> 00:44:02,777 remarks about J Street last night, very critical of 932 00:44:02,773 --> 00:44:04,473 Prime Minister Netanyahu. 933 00:44:04,475 --> 00:44:06,945 What good does it do anybody for the Vice President to 934 00:44:06,944 --> 00:44:11,184 make Israel, our ally, into a villain? 935 00:44:11,181 --> 00:44:14,581 Mr. Earnest: Well, I would vigorously disagree with 936 00:44:14,585 --> 00:44:17,055 that description of what Vice President Biden said. 937 00:44:17,054 --> 00:44:21,894 I think Vice President Biden himself, just having 938 00:44:21,892 --> 00:44:23,932 completed a trip to Israel just within the last four or 939 00:44:23,927 --> 00:44:26,327 six weeks here, is somebody who understands the 940 00:44:26,330 --> 00:44:28,330 importance of the relationship between our 941 00:44:28,332 --> 00:44:29,332 two countries. 942 00:44:29,333 --> 00:44:31,333 In fact, it was on a trip that Vice President Biden 943 00:44:31,335 --> 00:44:34,675 took to Israel in the first term that Prime Minister 944 00:44:34,671 --> 00:44:37,811 Netanyahu indicated that the security cooperation between 945 00:44:37,808 --> 00:44:39,808 the United States and Israel under President Obama's 946 00:44:39,810 --> 00:44:41,750 leadership was unprecedented. 947 00:44:41,745 --> 00:44:45,085 So I think what is also true is that when you have a 948 00:44:45,082 --> 00:44:48,022 strong relationship with your allies, you can also 949 00:44:48,018 --> 00:44:49,918 comfortably disagree in public. 950 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,320 And there are areas of disagreement as a matter of 951 00:44:53,323 --> 00:44:55,323 policy between our two countries. 952 00:44:55,325 --> 00:44:57,865 And we certainly have gone to great lengths to try to 953 00:44:57,861 --> 00:45:00,261 resolve those differences. 954 00:45:00,264 --> 00:45:02,834 Prime Minister Netanyahu himself has not hesitated to 955 00:45:02,833 --> 00:45:04,903 make his own differences with the Obama 956 00:45:04,902 --> 00:45:08,172 administration public on, in some ways, the largest stage 957 00:45:08,172 --> 00:45:10,172 imaginable, which is by addressing a joint session 958 00:45:10,174 --> 00:45:11,574 of Congress. 959 00:45:11,575 --> 00:45:15,545 So I think that's an indication of the fact that 960 00:45:15,546 --> 00:45:18,546 our two nations and even the leaders of our nations can 961 00:45:18,549 --> 00:45:21,419 disagree on some critically important policy issues in a 962 00:45:21,418 --> 00:45:25,088 way that doesn't undermine the fundamentals of our 963 00:45:25,089 --> 00:45:28,189 alliance and the importance of our security cooperation. 964 00:45:28,192 --> 00:45:29,122 The Press: What about the timing, though? 965 00:45:29,126 --> 00:45:32,466 Because the Vice President's criticism came just a couple 966 00:45:32,463 --> 00:45:36,463 hours after a bus bombing in Israel, two dozen people 967 00:45:36,467 --> 00:45:37,467 were injured. 968 00:45:37,468 --> 00:45:40,138 How would the White House like it if just hours after 969 00:45:40,137 --> 00:45:42,637 a terrorist attack here, Israeli officials came out 970 00:45:42,639 --> 00:45:46,409 and had some not so nice things to say about you guys? 971 00:45:46,410 --> 00:45:47,780 Mr. Earnest: Well, this particular incident -- by 972 00:45:47,778 --> 00:45:49,548 "you guys," I assume you mean all Americans -- 973 00:45:49,546 --> 00:45:51,016 The Press: White House officials. 974 00:45:51,014 --> 00:45:57,024 Mr. Earnest: Well, I think the point here is that Vice 975 00:45:57,020 --> 00:46:00,790 President Biden is somebody who has dedicated his career 976 00:46:00,791 --> 00:46:02,791 to strengthening the alliance between our 977 00:46:02,793 --> 00:46:03,863 two countries. 978 00:46:03,861 --> 00:46:06,061 And he certainly has succeeded in doing that. 979 00:46:06,063 --> 00:46:10,333 He did that in his visit to that country just a month or 980 00:46:10,334 --> 00:46:11,334 so ago. 981 00:46:11,335 --> 00:46:17,105 And our policy differences do not in any way overshadow 982 00:46:17,107 --> 00:46:22,547 our ongoing commitment to an unbreakable alliance and a 983 00:46:22,546 --> 00:46:25,386 security relationship that is unwavering. 984 00:46:25,382 --> 00:46:27,022 The Press: And last question. 985 00:46:27,017 --> 00:46:30,317 On Friday, the Paris climate agreement is going to be signed. 986 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,590 What should American citizens expect to see 987 00:46:33,590 --> 00:46:36,330 different on Saturday after this thing has been signed? 988 00:46:36,326 --> 00:46:39,396 Is there going to be a tangible benefit to everyday 989 00:46:39,396 --> 00:46:40,226 Americans that they're going to see? 990 00:46:40,230 --> 00:46:43,830 Or is this more just a step toward making us look good 991 00:46:43,834 --> 00:46:45,104 in front of the rest of the world? 992 00:46:45,102 --> 00:46:47,272 Mr. Earnest: I think what this is is this is another 993 00:46:47,271 --> 00:46:50,571 example of American leadership; that there will 994 00:46:50,574 --> 00:46:53,144 be a substantial number of countries, including some 995 00:46:53,143 --> 00:46:55,743 with large economies, joining the United States in 996 00:46:55,746 --> 00:46:58,386 making a serious international commitment to 997 00:46:58,382 --> 00:47:00,382 fighting climate change and to fighting 998 00:47:00,384 --> 00:47:01,384 carbon pollution. 999 00:47:01,385 --> 00:47:04,625 And this has long-term benefits for future 1000 00:47:04,621 --> 00:47:06,121 generations of Americans. 1001 00:47:06,123 --> 00:47:08,923 It also has shorter-term benefits for significant 1002 00:47:08,926 --> 00:47:10,926 economic policy decisions that have been made in 1003 00:47:10,928 --> 00:47:11,928 this country. 1004 00:47:11,929 --> 00:47:14,399 This is going to open up a global market for the kind 1005 00:47:14,398 --> 00:47:18,798 of renewable energy technology that is -- that 1006 00:47:18,802 --> 00:47:22,442 U.S. companies are at the cutting edge of. 1007 00:47:22,439 --> 00:47:25,209 This will open up a market for energy efficiency 1008 00:47:25,209 --> 00:47:26,949 innovation that U.S. 1009 00:47:26,944 --> 00:47:28,984 companies have pioneered. 1010 00:47:28,979 --> 00:47:31,349 And no longer will they be in a position of essentially 1011 00:47:31,348 --> 00:47:36,358 being a small sliver of the energy market. 1012 00:47:36,353 --> 00:47:38,653 We know that now countries around the world, because of 1013 00:47:38,655 --> 00:47:40,655 the policy commitments that they have made, are going to 1014 00:47:40,657 --> 00:47:42,657 be looking to invest in that kind of technology. 1015 00:47:42,659 --> 00:47:44,759 And that's why it has significant growth potential 1016 00:47:44,761 --> 00:47:46,861 for our economy back here at home. 1017 00:47:46,863 --> 00:47:49,403 It has the potential to create jobs in a brand 1018 00:47:49,399 --> 00:47:50,539 new industry. 1019 00:47:50,534 --> 00:47:52,534 And it certainly is something that the President 1020 00:47:52,536 --> 00:47:54,506 is quite enthusiastic about, both in terms of its 1021 00:47:54,504 --> 00:47:57,744 long-term impact on our planet, but also its more 1022 00:47:57,741 --> 00:47:59,681 medium-term impact on our economy. 1023 00:47:59,676 --> 00:48:01,216 Jim. 1024 00:48:01,211 --> 00:48:03,251 The Press: I'd like to go back to the President's 1025 00:48:03,247 --> 00:48:07,617 decision to deploy -- or approval to deploy the 217 1026 00:48:07,618 --> 00:48:11,858 Special Operations Forces there in Iraq in an attempt 1027 00:48:11,855 --> 00:48:16,325 to accelerate the offensive against ISIS there. 1028 00:48:16,326 --> 00:48:21,536 For the first time, these U.S. 1029 00:48:21,531 --> 00:48:24,931 Special Forces will be permitted to embed at the 1030 00:48:24,935 --> 00:48:29,175 battalion level, which means they will not be behind the 1031 00:48:29,172 --> 00:48:35,142 fences and the defenses of an encampment somewhere, but 1032 00:48:35,145 --> 00:48:39,015 they will be much closer to the front lines. 1033 00:48:39,016 --> 00:48:42,256 And yesterday, in his interview with Charlie Rose, 1034 00:48:42,252 --> 00:48:45,392 the President even said that those U.S. 1035 00:48:45,389 --> 00:48:49,229 Special Operations Forces would be backing up the 1036 00:48:49,226 --> 00:48:50,896 Iraqi forces. 1037 00:48:50,894 --> 00:48:53,464 And it's somewhat unrealistic to believe that 1038 00:48:53,463 --> 00:48:57,063 when the shooting starts, the Special Operations 1039 00:48:57,067 --> 00:48:59,607 Forces are just going to retreat and watch it happen. 1040 00:48:59,603 --> 00:49:03,303 And one of the real concerning issues about this 1041 00:49:03,307 --> 00:49:08,717 is the American people would not even know that the U.S. 1042 00:49:08,712 --> 00:49:11,782 Special Operations Forces would be engaged in combat 1043 00:49:11,782 --> 00:49:15,622 unless they're wounded or killed, because the military 1044 00:49:15,619 --> 00:49:19,659 is not going to announce that. 1045 00:49:19,656 --> 00:49:22,096 Is this a little bit of fudging? 1046 00:49:22,092 --> 00:49:24,262 The U.S. military is not going to 1047 00:49:24,261 --> 00:49:26,361 be involved in combat? 1048 00:49:26,363 --> 00:49:30,463 Because all the earmarks and recent experiences indicate 1049 00:49:30,467 --> 00:49:32,307 that they will likely be. 1050 00:49:32,302 --> 00:49:35,572 Mr. Earnest: Well, Jim, we've gone to -- I think we 1051 00:49:35,572 --> 00:49:39,012 have been pretty blunt about the significant risks that 1052 00:49:39,009 --> 00:49:43,079 our servicemen and women in Iraq are taking to protect 1053 00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:44,510 our national security. 1054 00:49:44,514 --> 00:49:46,514 And there's not been an attempt at any point to 1055 00:49:46,516 --> 00:49:49,816 downplay the significant of the operations that 1056 00:49:49,820 --> 00:49:50,950 they're undertaking. 1057 00:49:50,954 --> 00:49:53,524 That's true if you're talking about our military 1058 00:49:53,523 --> 00:49:55,523 pilots who are flying combat operations. 1059 00:49:55,525 --> 00:49:58,295 There are some 10,000 or 11,000 airstrikes that have 1060 00:49:58,295 --> 00:50:01,265 now been taken against ISIL targets in Iraq and in Syria. 1061 00:50:01,264 --> 00:50:05,264 This is true of Special Operators who have been 1062 00:50:05,268 --> 00:50:08,808 formed and stationed throughout Iraq to carry out 1063 00:50:08,805 --> 00:50:11,405 raids when an opportunity presents itself to try to 1064 00:50:11,408 --> 00:50:16,418 take out a senior ISIL figure or to capitalize on a 1065 00:50:16,413 --> 00:50:18,613 treasure trove of intelligence that may be 1066 00:50:18,615 --> 00:50:20,185 there for the taking. 1067 00:50:20,183 --> 00:50:22,823 This is also true when you talk about our military 1068 00:50:22,819 --> 00:50:26,559 servicemembers who are engaged in training efforts. 1069 00:50:26,556 --> 00:50:32,526 In some cases, particularly earlier in our efforts, 1070 00:50:32,529 --> 00:50:34,369 you have U.S. military 1071 00:50:34,364 --> 00:50:38,634 members who were in dangerous parts of Iraq who 1072 00:50:38,635 --> 00:50:43,905 were working to try to train fellow Iraqis to make them 1073 00:50:43,907 --> 00:50:46,847 more effective on the battlefield against ISIL. 1074 00:50:46,843 --> 00:50:52,483 We have not at all tried to downplay the significance of 1075 00:50:52,482 --> 00:50:55,722 those operations, or the risks that those individual 1076 00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,589 members are taking, or of the bravery that they are 1077 00:50:58,588 --> 00:51:01,958 displaying when carrying out their mission. 1078 00:51:01,958 --> 00:51:07,528 What is true is that when these kinds of operations 1079 00:51:07,531 --> 00:51:10,571 are undertaken, the decisions to commence the 1080 00:51:10,567 --> 00:51:15,707 operations are made by the Iraqi government and leaders 1081 00:51:15,705 --> 00:51:18,775 in the Iraqi military, that the operations are focused 1082 00:51:18,775 --> 00:51:22,575 on being carried out by Iraqi forces. 1083 00:51:22,579 --> 00:51:26,479 Those forces, though, are supported by the United 1084 00:51:26,483 --> 00:51:27,453 States military. 1085 00:51:27,451 --> 00:51:29,851 In some cases, that is supported by U.S. 1086 00:51:29,853 --> 00:51:33,293 military pilots that are conducting airstrikes in 1087 00:51:33,290 --> 00:51:35,190 support of their operations. 1088 00:51:35,192 --> 00:51:38,392 In other cases, that is Special Operators who are in 1089 00:51:38,395 --> 00:51:42,165 proximity who can offer advice about specific 1090 00:51:42,165 --> 00:51:45,835 tactics that can be employed on the battlefield to make 1091 00:51:45,836 --> 00:51:48,336 the completion of their operation more likely 1092 00:51:48,338 --> 00:51:49,338 to be successful. 1093 00:51:49,339 --> 00:51:51,339 So there is an important role for U.S. 1094 00:51:51,341 --> 00:51:58,551 servicemembers to carry out, and it is a role that 1095 00:51:58,548 --> 00:52:00,448 requires bravery. 1096 00:52:00,450 --> 00:52:05,260 It is a role that requires a willingness to assume some risk. 1097 00:52:05,255 --> 00:52:09,895 But it is different than the kind of combat mission that 1098 00:52:09,893 --> 00:52:11,633 previous U.S. military 1099 00:52:11,628 --> 00:52:14,468 servicemembers were asked to undertake in the 1100 00:52:14,464 --> 00:52:16,434 invasion of Iraq back in 2003. 1101 00:52:16,433 --> 00:52:18,833 The Press: But you would acknowledge then that it's 1102 00:52:18,835 --> 00:52:24,275 likely or very possible that those forces could indeed be 1103 00:52:24,274 --> 00:52:27,214 involved in ground combat even though that's not their 1104 00:52:27,210 --> 00:52:28,480 primary mission? 1105 00:52:28,478 --> 00:52:30,748 Mr. Earnest: Well, the way that we have described the 1106 00:52:30,747 --> 00:52:33,547 situation is that they are engaged in missions that can 1107 00:52:33,550 --> 00:52:36,150 be described as offering advice, assistance, and in 1108 00:52:36,152 --> 00:52:39,152 some cases, training to Iraqi forces. 1109 00:52:39,155 --> 00:52:42,495 That is different from a mission that is exclusively 1110 00:52:42,492 --> 00:52:44,332 focused on combat. 1111 00:52:44,327 --> 00:52:46,467 But we have never -- and I certainly am not going to 1112 00:52:46,463 --> 00:52:50,833 start from here -- seek to downplay how dangerous and 1113 00:52:50,834 --> 00:52:53,734 how much bravery is required to carry out the kind of 1114 00:52:53,737 --> 00:52:56,537 advice and assistance missions that our 1115 00:52:56,540 --> 00:52:58,540 servicemembers are undertaking on a daily basis 1116 00:52:58,542 --> 00:52:59,542 in Iraq right now. 1117 00:52:59,543 --> 00:53:01,583 The Press: Also, in his interview with Charlie Rose, 1118 00:53:01,578 --> 00:53:06,148 his remarks are being widely interpreted that the 1119 00:53:06,149 --> 00:53:11,419 President meant to say that, given this acceleration of 1120 00:53:11,421 --> 00:53:17,761 U.S. participation in assisting the Iraqi forces, that Mosul 1121 00:53:17,761 --> 00:53:19,961 would fall by the end of the year. 1122 00:53:19,963 --> 00:53:21,963 Did the President mean to say that? 1123 00:53:21,965 --> 00:53:24,105 And does he believe that? 1124 00:53:24,100 --> 00:53:25,070 Mr. Earnest: I looked at this portion of the 1125 00:53:25,068 --> 00:53:26,038 transcript, too. 1126 00:53:26,036 --> 00:53:28,406 I think what the President was trying to make the case 1127 00:53:28,405 --> 00:53:34,615 for is to set expectations that we're hopeful that the 1128 00:53:34,611 --> 00:53:37,711 conditions could be created where Mosul could fall 1129 00:53:37,714 --> 00:53:39,914 this year. 1130 00:53:39,916 --> 00:53:45,186 But what the Iraqi forces have been engaged in for 1131 00:53:45,188 --> 00:53:51,728 some time now is essentially undertaking operations in 1132 00:53:51,728 --> 00:53:54,228 the area around Mosul to sort of lay the groundwork 1133 00:53:54,230 --> 00:53:57,270 for a more significant operation. 1134 00:53:57,267 --> 00:54:00,107 And those kinds of shaping missions have been underway 1135 00:54:00,103 --> 00:54:01,403 for quite some time. 1136 00:54:01,404 --> 00:54:03,744 They are at work trying to create the conditions where 1137 00:54:03,740 --> 00:54:05,380 Mosul could fall. 1138 00:54:05,375 --> 00:54:08,445 And that work to create those conditions is work 1139 00:54:08,445 --> 00:54:11,185 that continues. 1140 00:54:11,181 --> 00:54:13,181 Obviously this is significant because Mosul is 1141 00:54:13,183 --> 00:54:19,323 one of the two areas where ISIL has concentrated their 1142 00:54:19,322 --> 00:54:23,492 fighters and concentrated a bunch of their organization 1143 00:54:23,493 --> 00:54:26,333 in a way that allows them to project some power and 1144 00:54:26,329 --> 00:54:29,169 violence that poses a longer-term threat and a 1145 00:54:29,165 --> 00:54:31,565 broader threat to the United States and our interests 1146 00:54:31,568 --> 00:54:32,298 around the globe. 1147 00:54:32,302 --> 00:54:33,432 Pam. 1148 00:54:33,436 --> 00:54:34,206 The Press: Thanks, Josh. 1149 00:54:34,204 --> 00:54:36,404 Could I just clarify something? 1150 00:54:36,406 --> 00:54:40,076 You said at least three times that I've heard, 1151 00:54:40,076 --> 00:54:42,846 quoting from the 9/11 Commission Report, the line 1152 00:54:42,846 --> 00:54:45,316 about how there's no evidence that the Saudi 1153 00:54:45,315 --> 00:54:47,885 government or high-level officials supported 1154 00:54:47,884 --> 00:54:49,084 al Qaeda. 1155 00:54:49,085 --> 00:54:53,855 And Senator Bob Kerry, who was on that commission, said 1156 00:54:53,857 --> 00:54:56,457 flatly, "We did not exonerate the Saudis." 1157 00:54:56,459 --> 00:54:59,659 When you quote that line are you saying that the White 1158 00:54:59,663 --> 00:55:02,863 House believes that the Saudis were exonerated? 1159 00:55:02,866 --> 00:55:06,836 Mr. Earnest: No, Pam, what I'm merely doing is -- let's 1160 00:55:06,836 --> 00:55:09,206 back up. 1161 00:55:09,205 --> 00:55:10,845 The reason I have quoted that line frequently is 1162 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:14,580 because the suggestion has been raised that by refusing 1163 00:55:14,577 --> 00:55:18,947 to release 28 pages of classified material that 1164 00:55:18,948 --> 00:55:25,058 your network has been talking about is somehow a 1165 00:55:25,055 --> 00:55:34,095 secret attempt to cover up verified, damaging 1166 00:55:34,097 --> 00:55:37,467 information about the complicity of the Saudi 1167 00:55:37,467 --> 00:55:42,707 government in the 9/11 attacks. 1168 00:55:42,706 --> 00:55:48,846 And what I have been trying to do is to point you to the 1169 00:55:48,845 --> 00:55:51,515 conclusion that was reached by this independent, blue 1170 00:55:51,514 --> 00:55:55,754 ribbon panel that took an unvarnished look at what 1171 00:55:55,752 --> 00:55:57,852 happened in the lead-up to 9/11 and what steps should 1172 00:55:57,854 --> 00:55:59,854 be implemented in the aftermath of 9/11 to make 1173 00:55:59,856 --> 00:56:01,856 sure that it would never happen again. 1174 00:56:01,858 --> 00:56:03,858 And so pointing to their conclusion that was made 1175 00:56:03,860 --> 00:56:05,860 public years ago and continues to be available 1176 00:56:05,862 --> 00:56:09,632 for public review I think is relevant to a discussion 1177 00:56:09,632 --> 00:56:15,642 about whether or not there's an ulterior motive to this 1178 00:56:18,007 --> 00:56:19,947 question about the 28 pages. 1179 00:56:19,943 --> 00:56:22,443 The Press: But what do you think that phrase means? 1180 00:56:22,445 --> 00:56:24,885 What does that mean to you? 1181 00:56:24,881 --> 00:56:27,551 Mr. Earnest: Well, again, I think people can take a look 1182 00:56:27,550 --> 00:56:32,390 at the report and draw their own conclusions, based on 1183 00:56:32,388 --> 00:56:37,698 people who looked at reams of evidence. 1184 00:56:37,694 --> 00:56:42,034 The 9/11 Commission was given extensive access to 1185 00:56:42,031 --> 00:56:45,831 information and materials that were relevant to 1186 00:56:45,835 --> 00:56:47,175 their investigation. 1187 00:56:47,170 --> 00:56:50,010 These were individuals that had expertise in national 1188 00:56:50,006 --> 00:56:52,006 security and intelligence matters. 1189 00:56:52,008 --> 00:56:55,178 They were in a position to evaluate the evidence. 1190 00:56:55,178 --> 00:56:57,648 They were in a position to examine the evidence. 1191 00:56:57,647 --> 00:57:00,487 They were in a position to consider where they should 1192 00:57:00,483 --> 00:57:01,783 look to find evidence. 1193 00:57:01,785 --> 00:57:06,025 And they wrote a report that was made public so that 1194 00:57:06,022 --> 00:57:08,662 everybody could see it and draw their own conclusions. 1195 00:57:08,658 --> 00:57:13,328 And so what I have done is tried to point you to their 1196 00:57:13,329 --> 00:57:15,929 conclusions because I think they're relevant to the 1197 00:57:15,932 --> 00:57:17,932 question about whether or not these 28 pages are going 1198 00:57:17,934 --> 00:57:18,964 to be declassified. 1199 00:57:18,968 --> 00:57:22,408 But I obviously haven't done the kind of investigation 1200 00:57:22,405 --> 00:57:26,005 that they did, so I think what I would encourage 1201 00:57:26,009 --> 00:57:27,809 people to do is if you have questions about whether or 1202 00:57:27,811 --> 00:57:37,921 not the Saudi government as an institution or senior 1203 00:57:37,921 --> 00:57:43,161 officials in the Saudi government were complicit in 1204 00:57:43,159 --> 00:57:47,729 knowingly assisting the 9/11 plotters, one piece of 1205 00:57:47,730 --> 00:57:51,330 evidence that they should know is that the blue ribbon 1206 00:57:51,334 --> 00:57:54,274 panel that took a close look at this did not find any 1207 00:57:54,270 --> 00:57:58,070 evidence to indicate that that was the case. 1208 00:57:58,074 --> 00:57:59,514 And that's their conclusion. 1209 00:57:59,509 --> 00:58:01,509 They certainly have the standing to make 1210 00:58:01,511 --> 00:58:02,511 that conclusion. 1211 00:58:02,512 --> 00:58:05,052 If there are people that want to ask different 1212 00:58:05,048 --> 00:58:06,478 questions or seek additional evidence, they certainly are 1213 00:58:06,482 --> 00:58:09,322 entitled to do that, but the conclusion of this 1214 00:58:09,319 --> 00:58:11,319 particular commission I think is relevant to 1215 00:58:11,321 --> 00:58:12,321 the questions. 1216 00:58:12,322 --> 00:58:14,992 The Press: As far as the suggestion that there's some 1217 00:58:14,991 --> 00:58:20,001 damaging information in the 28 pages, former Senator Bob 1218 00:58:19,996 --> 00:58:24,436 Graham was asked, what do you believe -- who in Saudi 1219 00:58:24,434 --> 00:58:27,334 Arabia is responsible, government, charities, 1220 00:58:27,337 --> 00:58:28,337 wealthy Saudis? 1221 00:58:28,338 --> 00:58:30,338 And he said, "All of the above." 1222 00:58:30,340 --> 00:58:32,740 So he clearly believes that there was some involvement 1223 00:58:32,742 --> 00:58:36,882 by the Saudi government and that the 28 pages points 1224 00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:37,880 to that. 1225 00:58:37,881 --> 00:58:39,881 Mr. Earnest: Well, again, I haven't read the 28 pages, 1226 00:58:39,883 --> 00:58:43,083 so -- and even if I had I wouldn't be in a position to 1227 00:58:43,086 --> 00:58:45,056 talk about them because they're currently classified. 1228 00:58:45,054 --> 00:58:48,094 But we don't have to go over this territory again. 1229 00:58:48,091 --> 00:58:50,191 I think what is relevant is that there was this blue 1230 00:58:50,193 --> 00:58:52,233 ribbon commission, the 9/11 Commission, that did take a 1231 00:58:52,228 --> 00:58:56,498 look at it and they've made public their conclusions. 1232 00:58:56,499 --> 00:59:00,599 So people can certainly evaluate those opinions and 1233 00:59:00,603 --> 00:59:03,503 those conclusions and draw their own 1234 00:59:03,506 --> 00:59:05,506 conclusions accordingly. 1235 00:59:05,508 --> 00:59:07,508 Let me just say something else that also happens 1236 00:59:07,510 --> 00:59:09,010 to be true. 1237 00:59:09,012 --> 00:59:14,282 It's undeniable that since 9/11 we have seen the Saudi 1238 00:59:14,284 --> 00:59:21,124 government focus more intently on combating and 1239 00:59:21,124 --> 00:59:25,094 countering those who propagate extremist ideology. 1240 00:59:27,263 --> 00:59:29,363 If it wasn't clear to them before, it is certainly 1241 00:59:29,365 --> 00:59:33,005 clear to them in the aftermath of 9/11 how 1242 00:59:33,002 --> 00:59:35,202 dangerous that is. 1243 00:59:35,204 --> 00:59:38,804 And we certainly have welcomed the efforts of the 1244 00:59:38,808 --> 00:59:42,478 Saudi government to counter the propagation of 1245 00:59:42,478 --> 00:59:44,418 that ideology. 1246 00:59:44,414 --> 00:59:52,354 And that is just one sign of the improved security 1247 00:59:52,355 --> 00:59:56,295 cooperation between the United States and Saudi 1248 00:59:56,292 --> 00:59:58,962 Arabia since 9/11. 1249 00:59:58,962 --> 01:00:02,932 It certainly does not eliminate all of the 1250 01:00:02,932 --> 01:00:05,832 disagreements that we have between our two countries, 1251 01:00:05,835 --> 01:00:09,605 but it is an indication that since 9/11, because of 1252 01:00:09,605 --> 01:00:11,805 important work that was done both by the Bush 1253 01:00:11,808 --> 01:00:13,808 administration and by national security 1254 01:00:13,810 --> 01:00:16,210 professionals in this administration, that the 1255 01:00:16,212 --> 01:00:18,912 relationship between our two countries has been enhanced 1256 01:00:18,915 --> 01:00:21,555 in a way that has had important benefits for our 1257 01:00:21,551 --> 01:00:22,551 national security. 1258 01:00:22,552 --> 01:00:25,552 The Press: And if the 9/11 families cannot sue the 1259 01:00:25,555 --> 01:00:29,395 Saudi government, what other recourse do they have? 1260 01:00:29,392 --> 01:00:34,062 Is diplomacy -- can that do something to satisfy what 1261 01:00:34,063 --> 01:00:36,163 they would like to see happen? 1262 01:00:36,165 --> 01:00:38,305 Mr. Earnest: Well, as I mentioned, Pam, I'll let the 1263 01:00:38,301 --> 01:00:40,301 9/11 families speak for themselves. 1264 01:00:40,303 --> 01:00:42,443 Obviously they can set their own priorities in terms of 1265 01:00:42,438 --> 01:00:44,108 what they would like to see. 1266 01:00:44,107 --> 01:00:47,207 I know that just reading the public comments of many of 1267 01:00:47,210 --> 01:00:50,980 those individuals, they're quite concerned about 1268 01:00:50,980 --> 01:00:53,750 American national security, about protecting the U.S. 1269 01:00:53,750 --> 01:00:56,550 homeland and making sure that a tragedy on the scale 1270 01:00:56,552 --> 01:00:58,792 of 9/11 never happens again. 1271 01:00:58,788 --> 01:01:02,688 And what is true is that by using diplomacy -- not just 1272 01:01:02,692 --> 01:01:05,732 with Saudi Arabia but with countries around the world 1273 01:01:05,728 --> 01:01:08,098 -- the United States is safer than we were on 9/11; 1274 01:01:08,097 --> 01:01:10,837 that we have made progress. 1275 01:01:10,833 --> 01:01:13,833 Osama bin Laden no longer threatens the American people. 1276 01:01:13,836 --> 01:01:16,776 Core al Qaeda has been decimated. 1277 01:01:16,773 --> 01:01:18,973 We have made progress in applying significant 1278 01:01:18,975 --> 01:01:21,415 pressure to al Qaeda affiliates around the globe. 1279 01:01:21,411 --> 01:01:23,681 We have deepened our security cooperation and our 1280 01:01:23,679 --> 01:01:26,319 counterterrorism cooperation with countries around the 1281 01:01:26,315 --> 01:01:28,715 globe -- not just in the Middle East, but also in 1282 01:01:28,718 --> 01:01:31,458 places like Africa and Southeast Asia. 1283 01:01:31,454 --> 01:01:33,454 I'm not seeking to downplay the risks. 1284 01:01:33,456 --> 01:01:36,626 It's precisely because these risks exist that the 1285 01:01:36,626 --> 01:01:42,396 administration has been so vigorous in countering them. 1286 01:01:42,398 --> 01:01:46,068 And I think that is a policy priority and a set of policy 1287 01:01:46,069 --> 01:01:51,939 accomplishments that anybody who is concerned about U.S. 1288 01:01:51,941 --> 01:01:54,881 national security would be pleased about. 1289 01:01:54,877 --> 01:01:56,877 Toluse. 1290 01:01:56,879 --> 01:01:57,779 The Press: Thanks, Josh. 1291 01:01:57,780 --> 01:02:01,750 Secretary Carter is in the UAE today in advance to the 1292 01:02:01,751 --> 01:02:03,321 President's trip to that region. 1293 01:02:03,319 --> 01:02:05,919 I'm wondering if we should expect any announcements at 1294 01:02:05,922 --> 01:02:10,522 the GCC summit about future, further commitments by GCC 1295 01:02:10,526 --> 01:02:13,426 countries in the counter-ISIS efforts. 1296 01:02:13,429 --> 01:02:15,499 Mr. Earnest: Well, I don't know whether or not 1297 01:02:15,498 --> 01:02:17,798 Secretary Carter is prepared to make any 1298 01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:19,270 announcements today. 1299 01:02:19,268 --> 01:02:24,338 Obviously the leaders of those countries and 1300 01:02:24,340 --> 01:02:27,480 President Obama will have an opportunity to meet in 1301 01:02:27,477 --> 01:02:30,377 Riyadh, starting tomorrow. 1302 01:02:30,379 --> 01:02:32,379 And that will be -- actually, starting 1303 01:02:32,381 --> 01:02:33,381 on Thursday. 1304 01:02:33,382 --> 01:02:36,452 My days -- this overnight flight thing has really got 1305 01:02:36,452 --> 01:02:37,922 me confused. 1306 01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:39,920 President Obama will arrive in Saudi Arabia 1307 01:02:39,922 --> 01:02:40,922 on Wednesday. 1308 01:02:40,923 --> 01:02:43,463 On Thursday, he will convene a series of meetings with 1309 01:02:43,459 --> 01:02:46,999 GCC leaders, including the leader of Saudi Arabia, to 1310 01:02:46,996 --> 01:02:49,396 talk about a range of important national 1311 01:02:49,398 --> 01:02:51,698 security priorities. 1312 01:02:51,701 --> 01:02:53,701 And you all will have an opportunity to hear from 1313 01:02:53,703 --> 01:02:55,703 President Obama at the conclusion of those 1314 01:02:55,705 --> 01:02:58,075 meetings, and he'll be in a position to talk to you 1315 01:02:58,074 --> 01:03:01,574 about any progress that we've made in the context of 1316 01:03:01,577 --> 01:03:03,217 those negotiations. 1317 01:03:03,212 --> 01:03:05,012 The Press: I wanted to ask about Afghanistan. 1318 01:03:05,014 --> 01:03:06,814 There was a car bomb that killed several dozens of 1319 01:03:06,816 --> 01:03:08,686 people and injured hundreds in Kabul. 1320 01:03:08,684 --> 01:03:13,324 And the Taliban has said that that's a sign of a new 1321 01:03:13,322 --> 01:03:15,662 fighting season where there will be more and more of 1322 01:03:15,658 --> 01:03:16,458 these attacks. 1323 01:03:16,459 --> 01:03:18,799 I'm wondering, first, what the response is from the 1324 01:03:18,794 --> 01:03:19,594 White House? 1325 01:03:19,595 --> 01:03:21,865 And whether or not that factored into the 1326 01:03:21,864 --> 01:03:25,204 President's decision on whether to draw down the 1327 01:03:25,201 --> 01:03:27,601 troops at the same time schedule that he put out 1328 01:03:27,603 --> 01:03:31,473 last year by going down to 5,500 by the end of this year. 1329 01:03:31,474 --> 01:03:33,374 Mr. Earnest: Well, let me start by saying that the 1330 01:03:33,376 --> 01:03:36,046 United States strongly condemns the cowardly attack 1331 01:03:36,045 --> 01:03:38,415 on Afghan forces and civilians in Kabul this 1332 01:03:38,414 --> 01:03:41,954 morning that killed dozens and wounded hundreds. 1333 01:03:41,951 --> 01:03:43,951 Our thoughts and prayers are with the victims, their 1334 01:03:43,953 --> 01:03:45,423 families and their loved ones. 1335 01:03:45,421 --> 01:03:47,791 At the outset of this year's fighting season, we remain 1336 01:03:47,790 --> 01:03:50,290 committed to support the Afghan people and 1337 01:03:50,293 --> 01:03:51,323 their government. 1338 01:03:51,327 --> 01:03:54,597 We also call on the Taliban to pursue a pathway of peace 1339 01:03:54,597 --> 01:03:56,597 instead of continuing a military campaign 1340 01:03:56,599 --> 01:03:59,099 responsible for the senseless deaths of 1341 01:03:59,101 --> 01:04:01,101 Afghan civilians. 1342 01:04:01,103 --> 01:04:03,773 We remain steadfast partners with Afghan security forces 1343 01:04:03,773 --> 01:04:06,073 as we work to promote peace and stability in the region 1344 01:04:06,075 --> 01:04:09,045 and as we counter the threat of terrorism that affects 1345 01:04:09,045 --> 01:04:10,585 all of us. 1346 01:04:10,580 --> 01:04:16,420 I don't have an updated assessment in terms of what 1347 01:04:16,419 --> 01:04:21,759 if any impact this attack would have on our military 1348 01:04:21,757 --> 01:04:22,797 posture going forward. 1349 01:04:22,792 --> 01:04:24,992 Obviously the President had an opportunity to talk about 1350 01:04:24,994 --> 01:04:27,334 this at the end of last year. 1351 01:04:27,330 --> 01:04:32,400 And this will be among the important policy decisions 1352 01:04:32,401 --> 01:04:38,341 that the incoming President, President Obama's successor, 1353 01:04:38,341 --> 01:04:40,241 will have to make. 1354 01:04:40,243 --> 01:04:42,413 When President Obama took office, you'll recall, in 1355 01:04:42,411 --> 01:04:47,751 2009, he did so vowing to follow through on a campaign 1356 01:04:47,750 --> 01:04:52,090 promise to ensure that we were -- that the United 1357 01:04:52,088 --> 01:04:54,788 States and the international community was focused on the 1358 01:04:54,790 --> 01:04:56,990 terror threat that was emanating from this region 1359 01:04:56,993 --> 01:04:58,023 of the world. 1360 01:04:58,027 --> 01:05:03,167 And the sense was -- not just the sense of President 1361 01:05:03,165 --> 01:05:05,305 Obama, but also the sense of the American people -- was 1362 01:05:05,301 --> 01:05:07,901 that our attention had drifted from Afghanistan and 1363 01:05:07,903 --> 01:05:10,673 been diverted to the situation in Iraq. 1364 01:05:10,673 --> 01:05:13,413 President Obama vowed to recalibrate that situation 1365 01:05:13,409 --> 01:05:18,079 and to ensure that we were reinforcing our efforts in 1366 01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:22,020 Afghanistan and in that region of the world where we 1367 01:05:22,018 --> 01:05:25,918 know the al Qaeda leadership, under the 1368 01:05:25,921 --> 01:05:29,761 protection of the Taliban, had carried out the 9/11 1369 01:05:29,759 --> 01:05:31,799 attacks against the United States. 1370 01:05:31,794 --> 01:05:35,394 President Obama has executed a military and diplomatic 1371 01:05:35,398 --> 01:05:39,498 strategy that has decimated core al Qaeda, that took 1372 01:05:39,502 --> 01:05:42,302 Osama bin Laden off the battlefield, and that has 1373 01:05:42,305 --> 01:05:47,545 supported an Afghan government that is committed 1374 01:05:47,543 --> 01:05:50,543 to the kind of security approach that 1375 01:05:50,546 --> 01:05:51,786 we're supporting. 1376 01:05:51,781 --> 01:05:55,751 So there's no denying that tremendous progress that we 1377 01:05:55,751 --> 01:06:00,491 have made in Afghanistan, it has made America safer. 1378 01:06:00,489 --> 01:06:05,059 But there is -- there are years of work, decades of 1379 01:06:05,061 --> 01:06:08,761 work that still needs to be done in that region of the 1380 01:06:08,764 --> 01:06:14,774 world to continue to advance our national security interests. 1381 01:06:17,206 --> 01:06:19,306 The Press: One more quickly on the $10 bill. 1382 01:06:19,308 --> 01:06:21,078 I'm wondering -- there are reports that the Treasury 1383 01:06:21,077 --> 01:06:25,377 Secretary will be making an announcement, and I'm 1384 01:06:25,381 --> 01:06:28,081 wondering has the White House, has the President 1385 01:06:28,084 --> 01:06:28,814 been briefed? 1386 01:06:28,818 --> 01:06:30,188 Have you seen a mock-up of what the new bill might 1387 01:06:30,186 --> 01:06:31,086 look like? 1388 01:06:31,087 --> 01:06:33,387 Should we be expecting an announcement on that soon? 1389 01:06:33,389 --> 01:06:36,389 Mr. Earnest: Well, this is a policy decision that's made 1390 01:06:36,392 --> 01:06:37,422 by the Treasury Department. 1391 01:06:37,426 --> 01:06:39,796 It, of course, is not at all uncommon for the Treasury 1392 01:06:39,795 --> 01:06:41,765 Department to consult with the White House where 1393 01:06:41,764 --> 01:06:44,634 appropriate when making important policy decisions. 1394 01:06:44,633 --> 01:06:47,073 But I don't have any news to make on Treasury's behalf, 1395 01:06:47,069 --> 01:06:49,069 at least not today. 1396 01:06:49,071 --> 01:06:50,471 Byron. 1397 01:06:50,473 --> 01:06:51,503 The Press: Thanks, Josh. 1398 01:06:51,507 --> 01:06:53,577 New York voters head to the polls today. 1399 01:06:53,576 --> 01:06:55,616 You've said in the past the debate happening within the 1400 01:06:55,611 --> 01:06:57,851 Democratic Party, about the direction and the future of 1401 01:06:57,847 --> 01:07:00,687 the party is a healthy one, but it's now April 19th; 1402 01:07:00,683 --> 01:07:03,283 Senator Sanders trails pretty badly in the delegate 1403 01:07:03,285 --> 01:07:05,855 count, and you've seen the tone of the last debate and 1404 01:07:05,855 --> 01:07:09,095 some of the rhetoric on the campaign trail get heated. 1405 01:07:09,091 --> 01:07:11,261 Does the President still feel that this is a 1406 01:07:11,260 --> 01:07:13,160 constructive campaign and conversation 1407 01:07:13,162 --> 01:07:14,192 that's happening? 1408 01:07:14,196 --> 01:07:17,436 Mr. Earnest: Well, Byron, there's no denying that when 1409 01:07:17,433 --> 01:07:19,433 you compare the campaign that's been waged by the 1410 01:07:19,435 --> 01:07:24,275 Democratic candidates, that it has been much healthier 1411 01:07:24,273 --> 01:07:27,773 and more productive than the campaign that we've seen be 1412 01:07:27,777 --> 01:07:30,417 waged by the other side. 1413 01:07:30,413 --> 01:07:35,423 And the President has obviously been pleased to 1414 01:07:35,418 --> 01:07:43,388 see Democratic candidates who are giving voice and 1415 01:07:43,392 --> 01:07:46,362 prioritizing the kinds of values that he's spent his 1416 01:07:46,362 --> 01:07:47,362 career fighting for. 1417 01:07:47,363 --> 01:07:51,503 That's been a good thing, and the President has 1418 01:07:51,500 --> 01:07:54,700 obviously been pleased by that. 1419 01:07:54,703 --> 01:07:58,003 But, ultimately, the individual candidates are 1420 01:07:58,007 --> 01:08:02,817 going to have to decide for themselves how this campaign 1421 01:08:02,812 --> 01:08:05,452 will play out here in the remaining weeks of the 1422 01:08:05,448 --> 01:08:11,958 Democratic contest. 1423 01:08:11,954 --> 01:08:14,394 In 2008 -- I've talked about this a couple of times -- in 1424 01:08:14,390 --> 01:08:20,700 2008, there was a vigorous contest between then-Senator 1425 01:08:20,696 --> 01:08:23,366 Clinton and then-Senator Obama that dragged on longer 1426 01:08:23,365 --> 01:08:25,405 than people expected -- I think longer than 1427 01:08:25,401 --> 01:08:26,401 anybody expected. 1428 01:08:26,402 --> 01:08:32,472 But with some departures, it was primarily focused on 1429 01:08:32,475 --> 01:08:35,575 policy and articulating a vision for the country. 1430 01:08:35,578 --> 01:08:37,348 And that longer-than-expected 1431 01:08:37,346 --> 01:08:42,516 Democratic primary had positive benefits for the 1432 01:08:42,518 --> 01:08:44,518 party as a whole, and it certainly improved the 1433 01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:48,020 performance of the Democratic nominee in the 1434 01:08:48,023 --> 01:08:50,993 general election, and it certainly resulted in a 1435 01:08:50,993 --> 01:08:54,733 Democratic campaign organization being stronger 1436 01:08:54,730 --> 01:08:57,230 in states that Democrats had not recently competed in. 1437 01:08:57,233 --> 01:09:00,203 I often cite the example of Indiana, a state that had a 1438 01:09:00,202 --> 01:09:05,612 primary in May, that had rarely not been -- that had 1439 01:09:05,608 --> 01:09:08,578 rarely been contested by Democratic 1440 01:09:08,577 --> 01:09:09,577 presidential candidates. 1441 01:09:09,578 --> 01:09:12,918 But there was a vigorous contest in May of 2008 1442 01:09:12,915 --> 01:09:15,485 between then-Senator Clinton and then-Senator Obama 1443 01:09:15,484 --> 01:09:17,054 in Indiana. 1444 01:09:17,052 --> 01:09:19,792 And there were some who concluded that that would be 1445 01:09:19,788 --> 01:09:23,028 a bad thing for the Democratic Party. 1446 01:09:23,025 --> 01:09:26,365 Instead, what resulted was a Democratic Party 1447 01:09:26,362 --> 01:09:29,162 infrastructure being built in Indiana to support both 1448 01:09:29,164 --> 01:09:33,134 candidates, each individual candidate, that then went on 1449 01:09:33,135 --> 01:09:36,475 to greatly contribute to the Democratic candidate's 1450 01:09:36,472 --> 01:09:38,472 success in the general election. 1451 01:09:38,474 --> 01:09:41,944 And that led to President Obama winning the state of 1452 01:09:41,944 --> 01:09:44,714 Indiana in the general election in 2008, something 1453 01:09:44,713 --> 01:09:47,283 a Democratic presidential candidate hadn't done 1454 01:09:47,283 --> 01:09:49,083 in decades. 1455 01:09:49,084 --> 01:09:51,384 So that's just one illustration of how a 1456 01:09:51,387 --> 01:09:57,227 longer-than-expected primary contest can yield some 1457 01:09:57,226 --> 01:09:59,796 positive results for the party and for the 1458 01:09:59,795 --> 01:10:01,265 party's nominee. 1459 01:10:01,263 --> 01:10:03,263 Is that going to happen this time around? 1460 01:10:03,265 --> 01:10:04,265 I think it's too early to tell. 1461 01:10:04,266 --> 01:10:07,066 Hopefully it will. 1462 01:10:07,069 --> 01:10:08,069 But we'll see. 1463 01:10:08,070 --> 01:10:10,070 The Press: We've asked you sort of piecemeal about 1464 01:10:10,072 --> 01:10:12,072 whether the President has watched individual debates 1465 01:10:12,074 --> 01:10:13,574 or election night returns. 1466 01:10:13,576 --> 01:10:15,746 But broadly speaking, how closely is the President 1467 01:10:15,744 --> 01:10:18,814 following campaign news and the campaign trail? 1468 01:10:18,814 --> 01:10:21,454 Is he watching sort of live election returns 1469 01:10:21,450 --> 01:10:22,280 some nights? 1470 01:10:22,284 --> 01:10:24,284 Is he reading about this online and in the newspaper? 1471 01:10:24,286 --> 01:10:27,686 How does he sort of follow the campaign? 1472 01:10:27,690 --> 01:10:29,090 Mr. Earnest: I think it's fair to say the President is 1473 01:10:29,091 --> 01:10:31,131 following the election pretty closely. 1474 01:10:31,126 --> 01:10:36,466 He obviously has a stake in who will succeed him 1475 01:10:36,465 --> 01:10:38,935 in office. 1476 01:10:38,934 --> 01:10:42,374 I do not believe that the President has spent much if 1477 01:10:42,371 --> 01:10:44,741 any time watching live election returns. 1478 01:10:44,740 --> 01:10:49,410 I know that he has not spent much time watching the debates. 1479 01:10:49,411 --> 01:10:52,211 But he certainly is following the course of the 1480 01:10:52,214 --> 01:10:54,854 broader debate that's taking place on both 1481 01:10:54,850 --> 01:10:56,290 sides, frankly. 1482 01:10:56,285 --> 01:11:00,185 And at some point, the President will have an 1483 01:11:00,189 --> 01:11:02,259 opportunity to be a much more active participant in 1484 01:11:02,257 --> 01:11:03,257 that debate. 1485 01:11:03,259 --> 01:11:05,559 But that will be when we shift to the 1486 01:11:05,561 --> 01:11:06,561 general election. 1487 01:11:06,562 --> 01:11:07,562 The Press: Does he miss it? 1488 01:11:07,563 --> 01:11:10,203 Mr. Earnest: I don't think that -- I don't think he does. 1489 01:11:10,199 --> 01:11:11,699 Gardiner, I'm going to give you the last one and then 1490 01:11:11,700 --> 01:11:12,970 I'm going to get ready for my overnight flight here. 1491 01:11:12,968 --> 01:11:13,738 The Press: Okay. 1492 01:11:13,736 --> 01:11:18,176 Do you have any sense about if the Saudis follow through 1493 01:11:18,173 --> 01:11:21,043 on their threat to sell $750 billion in U.S. 1494 01:11:21,043 --> 01:11:25,213 assets, what kind of damage that would do to the U.S. 1495 01:11:25,214 --> 01:11:28,884 economy and to the United States generally? 1496 01:11:28,884 --> 01:11:32,884 Mr. Earnest: Well, Gardiner, at the New York Times, you 1497 01:11:32,888 --> 01:11:35,928 certainly have access to more sophisticated analysts 1498 01:11:35,924 --> 01:11:38,294 of global financial markets than me, thank goodness. 1499 01:11:38,293 --> 01:11:41,833 That is welcome news to the readers of your business 1500 01:11:41,830 --> 01:11:43,600 pages, I'm sure. 1501 01:11:43,599 --> 01:11:48,909 What I'll just say in general is our concern is 1502 01:11:48,904 --> 01:11:58,384 that a hypothetical transaction or series of 1503 01:11:58,380 --> 01:12:02,480 transactions like this would destabilize the global 1504 01:12:02,484 --> 01:12:03,554 financial markets. 1505 01:12:03,552 --> 01:12:09,562 And that kind of instability and that kind of volatility 1506 01:12:12,094 --> 01:12:15,564 is not in the interest of any of the advanced 1507 01:12:15,564 --> 01:12:17,564 economies around the world. 1508 01:12:18,901 --> 01:12:21,471 Both the United States and Saudi Arabia would be in the 1509 01:12:21,470 --> 01:12:23,470 category of advanced economies that would not 1510 01:12:23,472 --> 01:12:25,472 benefit from a situation like that. 1511 01:12:25,474 --> 01:12:27,774 That's the observation that I have made. 1512 01:12:27,776 --> 01:12:40,786 I know that the suggestion was raised in a story in 1513 01:12:40,789 --> 01:12:42,789 your newspaper that that could be a potential 1514 01:12:42,791 --> 01:12:49,831 response, and I don't know -- as I recall, that wasn't 1515 01:12:49,832 --> 01:12:53,102 an on-the-record statement from a Saudi official. 1516 01:12:53,102 --> 01:12:59,972 So I think it's hard to assess exactly how seriously 1517 01:12:59,975 --> 01:13:03,475 something like that is being considered there. 1518 01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:09,289 Given our shared interest in protecting the stability of 1519 01:13:09,284 --> 01:13:16,254 the global financial system, I suspect it's not something 1520 01:13:16,258 --> 01:13:18,258 that would be considered for long. 1521 01:13:18,260 --> 01:13:20,930 The Press: I think there's increasing concern on the 1522 01:13:20,929 --> 01:13:24,699 Saudi side that Washington has become far less 1523 01:13:24,700 --> 01:13:28,170 hospitable a place for them sort of from a policy and 1524 01:13:28,170 --> 01:13:30,910 also from a diplomatic perspective. 1525 01:13:30,906 --> 01:13:33,206 They see the Obama administration has far less 1526 01:13:33,208 --> 01:13:37,748 warm to them as the previous administration had been. 1527 01:13:37,746 --> 01:13:40,916 They see this legislation on Capitol Hill as arising from 1528 01:13:40,916 --> 01:13:43,386 what they worry is a sort of a growing 1529 01:13:43,385 --> 01:13:45,785 anti-Saudi sentiment. 1530 01:13:45,788 --> 01:13:49,588 Do they have reason to feel worried about this? 1531 01:13:49,591 --> 01:13:52,891 This is President Obama's third trip to Saudi Arabia, 1532 01:13:52,895 --> 01:13:57,365 this week, but the Saudis themselves and even some GCC 1533 01:13:57,366 --> 01:14:02,476 members generally feel that they have seen their place 1534 01:14:02,471 --> 01:14:05,041 in Washington decline substantially over the last 1535 01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:06,480 several years. 1536 01:14:06,475 --> 01:14:08,745 Is that -- are those worries justified? 1537 01:14:08,744 --> 01:14:10,914 Mr. Earnest: Well, I think what I would encourage 1538 01:14:10,913 --> 01:14:18,483 people who harbor that concern to do is to take a 1539 01:14:18,487 --> 01:14:20,957 close look at President Obama's record. 1540 01:14:20,956 --> 01:14:22,956 Just last year, the President convened the 1541 01:14:22,958 --> 01:14:25,528 first-ever GCC-U.S. 1542 01:14:25,527 --> 01:14:29,327 Summit at Camp David. 1543 01:14:29,331 --> 01:14:33,841 That is a location that many world leaders are not 1544 01:14:33,836 --> 01:14:41,006 invited to enjoy, but it is an indication of how 1545 01:14:41,009 --> 01:14:44,709 important the President considers the relationship 1546 01:14:44,713 --> 01:14:46,713 between the United States and our partners in that 1547 01:14:46,715 --> 01:14:47,745 region of the world. 1548 01:14:47,749 --> 01:14:49,749 The fact that he is following through with a 1549 01:14:49,751 --> 01:14:51,921 second summit less than a year later I think is an 1550 01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:54,290 indication that he's committed to following 1551 01:14:54,289 --> 01:14:57,629 through on the discussions that were convened at Camp 1552 01:14:57,626 --> 01:14:59,626 David last year. 1553 01:15:03,365 --> 01:15:07,205 The President has talked about the impact of the 1554 01:15:07,202 --> 01:15:09,202 international agreement to prevent Iran from obtaining 1555 01:15:09,204 --> 01:15:11,374 a nuclear weapon. 1556 01:15:11,373 --> 01:15:15,543 Part of the case that we made to our partners in the 1557 01:15:15,544 --> 01:15:18,814 region who were initially skeptical of the wisdom of 1558 01:15:18,814 --> 01:15:21,814 this diplomatic approach is that it would yield 1559 01:15:21,817 --> 01:15:24,757 important national security benefits for them. 1560 01:15:24,753 --> 01:15:27,753 And that's proved to be true. 1561 01:15:27,756 --> 01:15:32,056 The national security position of Saudi Arabia is 1562 01:15:32,060 --> 01:15:35,000 strengthened if they know that one of their chief 1563 01:15:34,997 --> 01:15:41,007 rivals in the region is verifiably not in pursuit of 1564 01:15:43,605 --> 01:15:45,005 a nuclear weapon. 1565 01:15:45,007 --> 01:15:47,007 That's a good thing for Saudi Arabia. 1566 01:15:47,009 --> 01:15:48,209 That enhances their security. 1567 01:15:48,210 --> 01:15:52,010 And that advancement would not have been possible 1568 01:15:52,014 --> 01:15:54,014 without the United States leading the diplomatic 1569 01:15:54,016 --> 01:15:56,056 effort to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. 1570 01:15:56,051 --> 01:15:59,691 Let me give you another example. 1571 01:15:59,688 --> 01:16:01,958 The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia has been justifiably 1572 01:16:01,957 --> 01:16:05,857 concerned about the security situation in Yemen. 1573 01:16:05,861 --> 01:16:09,801 They share a long border with Yemen. 1574 01:16:09,798 --> 01:16:16,208 The United States has offered them the kind of 1575 01:16:16,204 --> 01:16:19,804 logistical support that has been critical to their 1576 01:16:19,808 --> 01:16:25,548 ability to apply military pressure to rebels and 1577 01:16:25,547 --> 01:16:27,647 extremists in Yemen. 1578 01:16:27,649 --> 01:16:31,549 The United States and Saudi Arabia have worked together 1579 01:16:31,553 --> 01:16:37,523 to apply pressure to al Qaeda plotters in Yemen. 1580 01:16:37,526 --> 01:16:41,266 These are dangerous extremists that have designs 1581 01:16:41,263 --> 01:16:45,563 not just on carrying out attacks against shared 1582 01:16:45,567 --> 01:16:49,707 U.S.-Saudi interests in the region, they have designs on 1583 01:16:49,705 --> 01:16:51,705 carrying out attacks against U.S. 1584 01:16:51,707 --> 01:16:52,707 interests around the world. 1585 01:16:52,708 --> 01:16:55,278 We're mindful of that threat, and we have worked 1586 01:16:55,277 --> 01:16:59,377 effectively with the Saudis to counter it. 1587 01:16:59,381 --> 01:17:01,681 We have also worked effectively with Saudi 1588 01:17:01,683 --> 01:17:07,393 Arabia and other GCC partners to add important 1589 01:17:07,389 --> 01:17:09,959 resources to our counter-ISIL campaign. 1590 01:17:09,958 --> 01:17:13,098 That includes not just important military 1591 01:17:13,095 --> 01:17:18,205 contributions both in the form of military actions, 1592 01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:22,000 but also in the form of military assistance to 1593 01:17:22,004 --> 01:17:24,704 fighting forces on the ground, we've also obtained 1594 01:17:24,706 --> 01:17:30,716 important Saudi assistance in countering ISIL's efforts 1595 01:17:33,749 --> 01:17:36,619 to radicalize people online. 1596 01:17:36,618 --> 01:17:39,018 We have worked closely with the Saudis and the Emiratis 1597 01:17:39,021 --> 01:17:42,621 and other GCC partners to shut down ISIL's efforts to 1598 01:17:42,624 --> 01:17:44,994 finance their operations. 1599 01:17:44,993 --> 01:17:47,163 We're talking -- some of the countries that the President 1600 01:17:47,162 --> 01:17:50,862 will be meeting with have capitals who are a regional 1601 01:17:50,866 --> 01:17:54,166 financial center, and by blocking or at least 1602 01:17:54,169 --> 01:17:58,639 countering ISIL's ability to access the services 1603 01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:02,440 available in those capitals is important to our 1604 01:18:02,444 --> 01:18:04,884 longer-term success. 1605 01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:08,480 And we have made progress in that effort because of their 1606 01:18:08,483 --> 01:18:10,553 cooperation with the United States and because of their 1607 01:18:10,552 --> 01:18:12,422 support for our coalition. 1608 01:18:12,421 --> 01:18:14,691 So there are a variety of ways in which the 1609 01:18:14,689 --> 01:18:18,229 partnership between the United States and Saudi 1610 01:18:18,226 --> 01:18:22,296 Arabia has been enhanced under President Obama's 1611 01:18:22,297 --> 01:18:24,637 leadership in a way that is good for the United States, 1612 01:18:24,633 --> 01:18:27,273 that is good for our national security, and 1613 01:18:27,269 --> 01:18:29,269 that's good for our homeland security. 1614 01:18:29,271 --> 01:18:31,271 And that's always what the President is focused on when 1615 01:18:31,273 --> 01:18:33,273 he's making these kinds of decisions and when he's 1616 01:18:33,275 --> 01:18:35,275 engaged in this kind of diplomacy. 1617 01:18:35,277 --> 01:18:41,647 And this is a good example of the President focused on 1618 01:18:41,650 --> 01:18:45,990 the right goal in pursuit of the kind of common ground 1619 01:18:45,987 --> 01:18:48,627 that benefits the citizens of both the United States 1620 01:18:48,623 --> 01:18:50,563 and Saudi Arabia. 1621 01:18:50,559 --> 01:18:51,559 Thanks, everybody. 1622 01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:52,560 We'll see you next week.