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Mr. Carney:
Good afternoon, everyone.

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Thank you for coming to
the White House for your

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daily briefing.

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I want to welcome -- we have
a group of Haitian journalists

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here visiting.

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I want to welcome you to the
White House briefing room.

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I have a couple of things I'd
like to read out to you before

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I take questions.

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First, I wanted to mention that
thanks to the Affordable Care

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Act, insurance companies must
spend at least 80 percent of

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your premium dollars on
health care and not overhead,

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executive bonuses
and advertising.

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If insurance companies fail to
meet that standard, as you know,

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they must provide a
rebate to their consumers.

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Provision of the
Affordable Care Act.

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Today, the Kaiser Family
Foundation released a new

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report, which found that thanks
to the President's health care

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law, 15.8 million Americans will
receive $1.3 billion in rebates

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-- an average rebate of
$127 per enrollee in the

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individual market.

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Today's news is yet another sign
of how the Affordable Care Act

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is already strengthening the
health care system for millions

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of Americans.

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On a second matter, I just
wanted to let you know that as

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part of his regular briefings
on homeland security and

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counterterrorism, the President
met today with members of his

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national security team to review
the threat picture as we head

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into the anniversary of
the bin Laden takedown.

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At this time, we have no
credible information that

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terrorist organizations,
including al Qaeda,

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are plotting attacks in the U.S.
to coincide with the anniversary

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of bin Laden's death.

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However, we asses that AQ's
affiliates and allies remain

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intent on conducting
attacks in the homeland,

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possibly to avenge the
death of bin Laden,

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but not necessarily
tied to the anniversary.

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The President thanked his team
and directed them to continue

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taking all necessary measures
to protect the American people.

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With that, I'll
take your questions.

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Ben.

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The Press:
Thanks, Jay.

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Couple questions.

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First, on the Secret Service.

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They're now investigating
another alleged incident

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involving agents
and prostitutes.

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There's one in El Salvador
during the President's trip.

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I know you defer questions
about investigations to them,

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but I'm wondering if the
President directly has ever

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been assured by Director
Sullivan that what happened

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in Colombia was isolated.

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Or has there been an
understanding here that there

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might have been other incidents?

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Mr. Carney:
As you know, the President was
briefed by Director Sullivan.

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I do not have a point-by-point
readout for you of that meeting.

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He was briefed on the
investigation specifically

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into the incident in Colombia.

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That investigation
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Although, as you know, action
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number of individuals.

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I don't have anything
more for you on that.

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I would refer to you, as it
relates to the reports that you

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just mentioned, to
the Secret Service.

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I simply don't have anything
for you on that from here.

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The Press:
Has the President in any
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in its investigation to
be completely forthcoming?

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I ask because Senator McCain
said today that the Secret

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Service seems to be
forthcoming in its review.

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But as it relates to
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he said the Pentagon has
completely stonewalled.

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Mr. Carney:
Well, I would refer you
to the Defense Department.

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I'm not -- I'm aware of the
reports of what Senator McCain

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said, but I obviously am not
familiar with the briefing

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they received.

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The President's position, as he
explained it when he was taking

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questions in Colombia, is that
he believes that every American

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who travels abroad,
representing the United States,

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should behave himself or herself
in accordance with the highest

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standards of
probity and dignity.

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And I think that applies
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different branches of the
government and agencies within

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the administration.

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The Press:
Okay. One other question
on the student loans.

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You've talked about how this
issue shouldn't partisan,

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but it is.

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Boehner said -- Speaker Boehner
said the President has turned

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this into a political one, not
just by pushing for his idea but

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by traveling, going to campuses.

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And one of his quotes was --
today from Speaker Boehner was,

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"This is the biggest
job in the world,

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and I've never seen a
President make it so small."

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I'm wondering if you have any
reaction to that, and whether,

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more broadly, you think we're
sort of in another one of these

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low points in this town.

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Mr. Carney:
Well, look, I understand
that Speaker Boehner and

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Republicans on Capitol Hill
are busy backing and filling,

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trying to explain how they can
support -- how they now support

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fixing the student loan
interest rate problem,

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when they all voted in favor
of a Republican budget,

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the Ryan budget -- their
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explicitly took another course
of action and would have allowed

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interest rate loans on --
Stafford loans to double.

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So they can't have it both ways.

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We are absolutely pleased that
-- because the President has

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raised this issue, because he's
taken it out to the country,

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because he's talked to students
and others across the country

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about the need to ensure that
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double, Republicans are
now saying that they agree.

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Well, that's good.

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And I know that there is
some suggestion that, well,

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even though they voted for the
Republican budget that made it

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a fact, if had become --
if it were to become law,

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that these student interest
loan rates would -- student

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loan rates would double,
they were going to fix it;

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that was always their plan.

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They just didn't tell anyone.

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It was a secret.

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And maybe they were just going
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the American people
sometime late in June.

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Well, I know none
of you believe that.

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And in fact, there was a vote
in a committee on this issue,

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during the deliberations
over the Republican budget,

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where a Democrat on the
committee offered an

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amendment that would
have fixed this problem,

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ensured that the lower interest
rates continued beyond July 1st.

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Republicans voted
unanimously against that.

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So we know what
their position was.

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We are glad they changed it.

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And they changed
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because the President took his
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they felt that pressure.

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The American people
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I guess the Speaker doesn't --
that education is an essential

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element of the American economy.

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Making sure that our kids get a
quality education is elemental

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not just to their
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but to the future of
the American economy.

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That's why it's so important.

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That's why the President is
out there pushing this issue,

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and that's why he is happy to
see Republicans now -- a little

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Johnny-come-lately -- supporting
the position that he's taken.

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Yes.

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The Press:
I wanted to follow
in the same vein.

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One of the other things that
Speaker Boehner said today was

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depicting this dispute over
student loans as a fake fight,

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as something that the President
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country to speak about it.

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But you've just said that you
think by going out into the

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country, that that actually
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that you were wanting.

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Mr. Carney:
Yes.

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The Press:
Just wondering if you could
discuss -- is there not also

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a thought of engaging
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having meetings here, having
the President go to Capitol Hill

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instead of to North
Carolina or --

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Mr. Carney:
Well, I think we've seen
-- and we saw it in the

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payroll tax cut issue debate
that resulted in Republicans

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ultimately doing the right thing
and making sure that millions of

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Americans didn't have --
hardworking Americans didn't

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have their taxes go up this year
-- that when the American public

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is behind an idea,
that Congress respond,

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at least on some occasions.

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And that hopefully
is the case here.

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Now, we're not there yet.

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There's obviously an effort to
continue to politicize this,

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to try to refight old
ideological battles and --

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rather than just acknowledging
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do and working together
to get it done.

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Again, I want to go back to the
fact that -- the suggestion that

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this is a manufactured battle
is belied by the overwhelming

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support that Republicans have
evinced for the Ryan/Republican

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budget, which uses the money
that would be gained by doubling

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these interest rates as part
of their -- as part of how they

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provide tax cuts to the wealthy
and reduce spending overall.

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So either -- you can't
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You can't say America has got
the equivalent of the stage 3

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cancer of socialism because the
federal government is tampering

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in all kinds of stuff it has
no business tampering in --

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Congressman, Republican,
from Missouri,

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referring to this policy and the
President's position on the need

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for Congress to take action to
ensure these rates stay low --

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and then say you were
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It's just not credible.

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Let me move around.

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Jessica.

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The Press:
The committee vote
you're referring to,

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just to be clear, allowed a
pay-for that would have -- the

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Democrats' proposal would have
paid for this through closing

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corporate loopholes on jets,
oil subsidies to oil companies.

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So when you talk about fighting
old ideological fights,

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it seems the real battle here
is over how to pay for this.

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Republicans object to
the Democrats' proposal.

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Why is the White House objecting
to the Republicans' proposal?

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Mr. Carney:
Let's be clear: The real
fight here -- there is

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a negotiation that should and
hopefully will take place to

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decide how to pay for this in a
constructive way that everyone

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can agree on.

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But your assessment -- the
premise of your question would

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be true if Republicans
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there was any evidence of any
initiative by Republicans to

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lower these interest -- keep
these interest rates low.

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The Press:
They've said that they can plan
to negotiate on this and --

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Mr. Carney:
They said that after the
President made an issue of it.

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It is not in the
Ryan/Republican budget.

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There was a committee vote
where they rejected an effort

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to ensure that these
interest rates stayed low.

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The Press:
It's also not in the
President's budget after

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next year.

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So he only extends it for --

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Mr. Carney:
Look, that's right,
he did it for a year,

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and obviously we would
assess it again in a year.

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It is absent from the governing
document of the Republican Party

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that every Republican
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that every leader in the
Republican Party supports.

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So you can't then say
you were always for it.

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Second, on the pay-fors, we
support the Senate Democratic

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proposal as one alternative.

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There are other
options to pay for it;

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many of them are available in
the President's budget proposal.

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We are willing to
negotiate this.

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It is not -- the thing I read at
the top of this briefing about

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the billions of dollars of
savings the American people have

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already received because of one
provision in the Affordable Care

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Act, and yet Republicans want to
somehow -- because they've lost

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this battle over the need to
ensure that students don't have

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their interest rates double --
want to kind of messy the water

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-- stir up the waters here by
making this about health care,

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having a pay-for pulled out
of the Affordable Care Act.

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We've seen this before.

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We watched this movie during
the payroll tax cut debate.

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It didn't end well for them,
and that's because the American

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people overwhelmingly
support this action.

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They overwhelmingly support
the pay-fors that we propose.

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And they need to just -- if they
want to fight about -- look,

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we know what the Republican
position is on the Affordable

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Care Act.

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They want to repeal it.

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They have no alternative,
but they want to --

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The Press:
This is a lot less money than
the payroll tax cut debate.

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Mr. Carney:
But hold on, they
want to repeal it.

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We understand that.

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They will argue that
in this campaign.

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They will argue that insurance
companies will once again be

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able to dictate to consumers the
rules of the road in terms of

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their insurance, their
health care coverage.

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They will argue that the
benefits that I just talked

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about at the top of this
briefing should not be given

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to the American people,
and that is fine.

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And let the election
decide that.

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Let's solve the student loan
rate problem now and focus on

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pay-fors that are
reasonable and acceptable.

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The Press:
The President said that
the Republicans certainly

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wouldn't let student loan rates
double overnight if they really

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cared about this issue.

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Does the President believe
Republicans really don't

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care about this issue?

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Mr. Carney:
I think we saw the other
day in a statement by the

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spokesman of the House
Republicans -- the House

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Speaker, the Republican
leader in the House,

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when he suggested that the
President was talking about

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this issue to avoid
talking about the economy,

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to avoid his economic record.

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And I think it unintentionally
revealed a perspective about

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what the economy is that stands
in stark contrast to what the

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President's perspective is.

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Education is essential
to our economy.

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It's essential to our
future economic growth.

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The economy is not just the
tax rates that the wealthiest

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individuals, hedge
fund managers,

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law firm partners and
big corporations pay.

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It's average folks out there
who are trying hard to make a

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living, people who are trying
to get an education so they can

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start a business, or be a
teacher or be an engineer.

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That's a perfect inadvertent
declaration of the difference,

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I think, in perspective
that we have about this.

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So, yes, education is essential.

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Ensuring that these kids don't
have their interest rates

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doubled on their
loans is essential,

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and the President is
going to keep pushing it.

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So many hands.

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Amy.

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The Press:
Can you respond to the
allegations -- a lot of

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Republicans are saying that you
guys are flying all over the

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country on taxpayer dollars.

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Can you respond to that?

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Mr. Carney:
I will respond to
that with alacrity.

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I will note a couple of things.

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One, as all of the questions
so far in this briefing prove,

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we are talking about a policy
issue that needs to be acted

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on by Congress.

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The President supports, and
Congress needs to act on it.

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Because of the efforts by the
President to go out in the

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country to talk about this,
to raise awareness about this

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looming deadline and the
potential for payments that

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students have to make to
go up, this has gotten a

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lot of attention.

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And Congress, hopefully,
will act because of that.

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So I think it is eminently
obvious that the President was

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out talking about
a policy issue.

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This is official business.

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And he did it effectively.

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It is also, to me, ironic that
the arguments about this are

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coming from people who know that
we assiduously follow all the

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rules in terms of the
delineations between campaign

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travel and official travel,
just as our predecessor did.

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And I would note that
the Speaker of the House,

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one such critic, praised a trip
by President Bush to Ohio in

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2004, to talk about education,
as absolutely the right

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thing to do.

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So I understand that there's
an effort to politicize this,

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an effort to hide the fact that
they have a policy problem on

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their hands.

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But our interest, the
President's interest,

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is ensuring that this matter
be taken care of on behalf of

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American college students.

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Yes, sir, in the red tie.

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The Press:
So just to clarify this, when
Speaker Boehner says that the

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President is campaigning on this
issue and when he says that the

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President should pay back
the Treasury on this issue,

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what's the response from the
President's team or from the

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White House?

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Mr. Carney:
Well, my response
is what I just gave.

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We follow these
rules by the book.

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We -- just the same rules that
-- although there have been some

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changes that have been written
about that you could argue

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aren't even advantageous to us,
but the -- we follow the rules.

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And it was the same rules that
were in place when President

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George W. Bush was in office and
running for reelection in 2004,

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the same rules that were in
place when President Clinton was

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running for reelection in 1996.

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It is a simple fact -- as
Republicans have acknowledged

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when there's been a Republican
President in office -- that when

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you are President, you are
President 24 hours a day,

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seven days a week.

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You do not leave
the office behind.

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And when you take -- when
you make campaign travel,

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which this President
has and will,

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you have to obviously
travel on Air Force One,

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and you have security and
communications requirements

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that come with the office, and
staffing requirements that come

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with the office.

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You can't -- that's an
essential, elemental part of it.

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But all the rules that we
follow are the ones that our

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predecessors followed.

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And going back to this trip, I
think as this discussion shows

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very clearly, the President was
arguing on behalf of a policy

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that he believes is essential.

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He was calling on Congress,
and will continue to call on

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Congress to act, to fix a
problem that if not fixed will

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negatively affect millions of
students across the country.

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And he'll continue to do
that as part of his job.

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It's an important
part of his job.

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Jake.

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The Press:
Following up on Ben's
question about the alleged

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incident with Secret Service
agents in El Salvador,

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was the President aware that
there were allegations like

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this before the news
report this morning?

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Mr. Carney:
I don't think so. I doubt it.

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I don't know that any of us
were aware of it until we read

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newspaper reports.

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The Press:
I guess my question is, if
we're learning about this

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from the media, this alleged
incident, is it not possible

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that the Secret Service is
not actually doing a thorough

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investigation of previous
incidents as well?

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Mr. Carney:
I would refer you to
the Secret Service for

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questions about
their investigation.

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We have said that when that
investigation is complete,

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they may have things to say
about questions regarding

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overall culture or issues with
the Service, if there are any,

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that extend beyond this
particular incident in Colombia.

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But certainly for
the time being,

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we're not going to comment on
unconfirmed reports that appear

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in the newspaper about
potential other incidents.

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I think the Secret Service is
handling this and that's where

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you should direct
your questions.

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The Press:
But are they?

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Are they looking into
other possible reports?

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Mr. Carney:
Well, I think you should ask
them what direct questions --

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The Press:
But we have.

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And the first statement the
Secret Service gave this morning

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was something along the
lines of unconfirmed reports,

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we'll look into
anything credible.

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Well, I guess the question
is, is it up to the media to

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investigate what the Secret
Service might have done,

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or is the Secret Service
taking the lead on that?

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Mr. Carney:
Well, again, I would
refer you to what the

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Secret Service said.

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I don't have anything
more for you on it.

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The Press:
All right, just one other issue.

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Could you comment at all on
the Department of Labor rule

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requiring 90 hours of
training for safety,

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for children that might
be working on farms?

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This has offended some
people in rural communities.

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And I'm wondering, why did the
administration feel like this

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rule was necessary?

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What's the reasoning behind it?

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And how much were rural
communities consulted before

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it was issued?

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Mr. Carney:
Jake, I'm not familiar with it.

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I'll have to take the question.

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Thanks.

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The Press:
Okay.

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Mr. Carney:
Norah.

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The Press:
How is the President
going to be assured

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that this is not a pattern of
behavior by the Secret Service?

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Mr. Carney:
Norah, I will answer your
question as I have others,

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which is the Secret Service is
still engaged in an investigation.

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The issues that may or may not
emanate beyond the specifics of

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this case I think are
ones that you should,

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if you have questions
about it, should address

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to the Secret Service.

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While this is an
ongoing investigation,

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we're not going to
comment more broadly.

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And we're certainly not going
to comment upon rumors or

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speculation that appears in the
media about either this incident

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or other potential incidents.

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The Press:
Would the President
like to make sure that

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it's not a pattern of behavior?

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Mr. Carney:
The President made clear that
he believes that those of us

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who work for the
U.S. government,

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whether at the White
House or in an agency

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of the administration, or for
Congress or in the military,

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when we travel abroad
on official trips we are

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representing the people of this
country and we should do so by

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conducting ourselves in
an appropriate manner.

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The Press:
When the Democratic
leader, Harry Reid,

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was asked about it today,
whether this was a pattern of

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behavior and what
should be done,

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his response was
hire more women.

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Does the President
believe that's the answer?

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Mr. Carney:
Again, I think this goes
to a broader question about

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the nature of the agency,
culture of the agency.

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I think for now, anyway, those
questions are best addressed to

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the agency itself.

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The Press:
And then, finally, Secretary
Napolitano on the Hill yesterday

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said that over the past
two and half years,

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the Secret Service Office of
Professional Responsibility has

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not received any such
complaint of wrongdoing.

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Is that sufficient, having
not received a complaint that

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there's no wrongdoing at all?

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Mr. Carney:
I would just refer you
to Secretary Napolitano,

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obviously whose department
oversees this agency.

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Roger.

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The Press:
Can you give us a bit
of a preview tomorrow,

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travel to Fort Stewart, Georgia?

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What's the message?

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Mr. Carney:
First of all,
where are we going?

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The Press:
Fort Stewart, Georgia.

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Mr. Carney:
Georgia?

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How come you guys aren't asking,
why are we going to Georgia?

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The Press:
How many times --

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Mr. Carney:
It's a battleground, that's why.

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It's in play.

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The Press:
Trying to go to blue states?

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(laughter)

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Mr. Carney:
I think I mentioned
yesterday on Air Force One,

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in response to a
question about this,

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that the subject matter of the
trip, which is an official trip,

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is the President and First
Lady's commitment to our

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veterans and military families.

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It will be related to that.

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I think we'll have more
specifics for you on the

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trip later today in a
call that you can join.

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The Press:
Do you know if he'll be
talking about the status

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agreement talks between
the U.S. and Afghanistan?

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Mr. Carney:
Well, I think I just
gave you a little bit

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of preview of the subject matter,
which seems a little different

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from what you just asked.

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But for more details,
I urge you to call in.

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I will give you information
for that call a little later.

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The Press:
Can I just follow up
on that for a second?

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Mr. Carney:
Sure.

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The Press:
You mentioned the briefing he
got today about OBL anniversary.

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Biden mentioned it today at NYU.

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Is he going to do
anything on Tuesday --

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Mr. Carney:
I don't have any advanced
scheduling announcements for

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00:23:53,834 --> 00:23:55,200
you, for next week.

477
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,667
I'm sure we'll have more
information about next week

478
00:23:57,667 --> 00:23:58,533
for you tomorrow.

479
00:23:58,533 --> 00:23:59,833
The Press:
But it sounds like he's
not going to be talking

480
00:23:59,834 --> 00:24:01,667
about it tomorrow.

481
00:24:01,667 --> 00:24:03,100
Mr. Carney:
Again, we'll have
more information

482
00:24:03,100 --> 00:24:04,199
about tomorrow's trip.

483
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,967
I did, perhaps a
little prematurely,

484
00:24:07,967 --> 00:24:10,133
show a little ankle on the
subject matter yesterday.

485
00:24:10,133 --> 00:24:11,967
So I'm confirming what I said
yesterday that it will be

486
00:24:11,967 --> 00:24:16,200
related to veterans and
military family issues.

487
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,934
But beyond that, we'll have
more information for you later.

488
00:24:18,934 --> 00:24:22,533
The Press:
Jay, on that same thing, is
there any discomfort at the

489
00:24:22,533 --> 00:24:28,065
White House about politicizing
the decisions and everything

490
00:24:28,066 --> 00:24:32,467
else that surrounded the
takedown of bin Laden?

491
00:24:32,467 --> 00:24:36,633
Mr. Carney:
I think -- I'm not sure
what your question -- I

492
00:24:36,633 --> 00:24:37,600
think you need to ask a
more specific question.

493
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:38,632
The Press:
Well, in Biden's -- it
was a highlight of the

494
00:24:38,633 --> 00:24:40,166
Biden speech today.

495
00:24:40,166 --> 00:24:44,533
And I'm just wondering, to what
extent is this going to become a

496
00:24:44,533 --> 00:24:46,833
political issue?

497
00:24:46,834 --> 00:24:48,600
The Press:
He said it was the bumper
sticker for your campaign.

498
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:53,433
Mr. Carney:
Well, I think that
foreign policy will

499
00:24:53,433 --> 00:24:55,567
obviously be discussed
in the campaign.

500
00:24:55,567 --> 00:24:59,433
I would refer you to the
campaign for more on the Vice

501
00:24:59,433 --> 00:25:01,767
President's speech, which
was a campaign speech.

502
00:25:01,767 --> 00:25:05,800
But I think that we have,
and the President has,

503
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:11,734
discussed the mission that
resulted in bin Laden's death

504
00:25:11,734 --> 00:25:16,632
and the extraordinary work of
our military and intelligence

505
00:25:16,633 --> 00:25:18,967
services in bringing it about.

506
00:25:18,967 --> 00:25:29,500
And the -- in terms that I think
are very sober and reflect the

507
00:25:29,500 --> 00:25:33,300
reality of the fact that al
Qaeda was and is our number-one

508
00:25:33,300 --> 00:25:35,834
enemy; that al Qaeda,
led by Osama bin Laden,

509
00:25:35,834 --> 00:25:40,967
launched attacks against
this country that took

510
00:25:40,967 --> 00:25:42,266
thousands of lives.

511
00:25:42,266 --> 00:25:47,667
And that fight
continues to this day.

512
00:25:47,667 --> 00:25:52,766
So it's a part of his foreign
policy record, obviously.

513
00:25:52,767 --> 00:25:58,000
But it's also part of a very
serious endeavor to keep our

514
00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:58,934
country safe.

515
00:25:58,934 --> 00:26:01,066
The Press:
So how do you strike a
balance between all of

516
00:26:01,066 --> 00:26:03,967
what you just said and
taking it out on --

517
00:26:03,967 --> 00:26:08,133
Mr. Carney:
I think the way that
we've handled it is --

518
00:26:08,133 --> 00:26:10,700
represents exactly the
balance you need to strike.

519
00:26:10,700 --> 00:26:12,233
The Press:
Can I just follow on him?

520
00:26:12,233 --> 00:26:13,800
Mr. Carney:
I'll go to Ed.

521
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,300
The Press:
Jay, an EPA official
has apologized now for

522
00:26:17,300 --> 00:26:20,800
what he says was a poor choice
of words when he said in 2010

523
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,332
his philosophy on oil and gas
enforcement was to be like the

524
00:26:24,333 --> 00:26:27,600
Romans and find the first
five guys and crucify them.

525
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,065
Now, the person has
apologized, as I said.

526
00:26:30,066 --> 00:26:32,400
Does the administration have
any concerns that this tape

527
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:33,734
was doctored in any way?

528
00:26:33,734 --> 00:26:35,867
Have you done any investigation
to see whether it's accurate?

529
00:26:35,867 --> 00:26:37,966
There have been other cases
where tapes like this have

530
00:26:37,967 --> 00:26:39,834
been selectively edited.

531
00:26:39,834 --> 00:26:40,867
I just want to be
clear up front,

532
00:26:40,867 --> 00:26:44,000
do you challenge the
accuracy of this at all?

533
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:49,033
Mr. Carney:
I have not heard suggested that
there is an issue with that.

534
00:26:49,033 --> 00:26:52,934
I think that you noted correctly
that the individual here

535
00:26:52,934 --> 00:26:56,466
apologized and made clear that
those comments are an inaccurate

536
00:26:56,467 --> 00:26:58,667
way to characterize
the work EPA does.

537
00:26:58,667 --> 00:27:02,199
And in fact, he's right -- they
are entirely inaccurate as a

538
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,066
characterization of
the work that EPA does.

539
00:27:04,066 --> 00:27:07,800
I would notice that just -- note
that just recently there was a

540
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,567
rule put out by EPA,
affecting natural gas,

541
00:27:10,567 --> 00:27:14,500
that was supported by both
industry and environmentalists,

542
00:27:14,500 --> 00:27:18,633
demonstrating the kind of
approach that we take on

543
00:27:18,633 --> 00:27:19,633
matters like this.

544
00:27:19,633 --> 00:27:21,500
And I would note that since
the President took office,

545
00:27:21,500 --> 00:27:24,433
oil and gas production
has increased each year.

546
00:27:24,433 --> 00:27:26,100
Oil is currently at
an eight-year high,

547
00:27:26,100 --> 00:27:28,734
and domestic natural gas
production is higher than

548
00:27:28,734 --> 00:27:30,966
at any time in history.

549
00:27:30,967 --> 00:27:32,800
On federal lands
and waters alone,

550
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,133
oil production is up 13 percent
since the President took office.

551
00:27:36,133 --> 00:27:39,467
And in 2010, for the
first time in 13 years,

552
00:27:39,467 --> 00:27:42,734
imported oil accounted for
less than 50 percent of the

553
00:27:42,734 --> 00:27:44,667
oil consumed in America.

554
00:27:44,667 --> 00:27:47,000
So our -- the
President's approach,

555
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:53,667
his all-of-the-above approach
to our energy needs, I think,

556
00:27:53,667 --> 00:27:58,065
documents and proves that those
comments do not reflect his

557
00:27:58,066 --> 00:28:00,867
policy or the approach
that the EPA has taken.

558
00:28:00,867 --> 00:28:03,133
The Press:
Republican Senator Inhofe, who
has been a long-time critic of

559
00:28:03,133 --> 00:28:07,400
the EPA -- many, many years --
says, however, that there have

560
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,500
been actions taken by the EPA
in states like Pennsylvania,

561
00:28:10,500 --> 00:28:13,233
where they've accused
natural gas companies

562
00:28:13,233 --> 00:28:15,367
of contaminating water.

563
00:28:15,367 --> 00:28:18,500
He and other Republicans
think it's been trumped up.

564
00:28:18,500 --> 00:28:22,467
Does this not call into question
some of those actions when you

565
00:28:22,467 --> 00:28:24,767
now have this tape of an
official letting his hair down

566
00:28:24,767 --> 00:28:26,700
and saying, let's crucify them?

567
00:28:26,700 --> 00:28:31,800
Mr. Carney:
Well, again, the official's
comments not only are inaccurate

568
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:37,500
as a representation of --
or characterization of the

569
00:28:37,500 --> 00:28:41,467
way that the EPA has operated
under President Obama,

570
00:28:41,467 --> 00:28:47,467
they are provably inaccurate
by our record on these issues.

571
00:28:47,467 --> 00:28:52,767
As I just mentioned, oil
production is up 13 percent on

572
00:28:52,767 --> 00:28:55,033
federal water -- federal
lands and waters.

573
00:28:55,033 --> 00:28:56,632
Oil is currently at
an eight-year high of

574
00:28:56,633 --> 00:28:57,633
production here.

575
00:28:57,633 --> 00:28:59,233
And domestic natural gas
production -- the issue that

576
00:28:59,233 --> 00:29:02,466
you're talking about --
is at an all-time high.

577
00:29:02,467 --> 00:29:09,100
So clearly, there is not an
effort of the nature that you

578
00:29:09,100 --> 00:29:10,100
talk about.

579
00:29:10,100 --> 00:29:13,433
Quite the contrary, there
is a commitment to ensure

580
00:29:13,433 --> 00:29:18,066
that natural gas is an essential
part of our energy future,

581
00:29:18,066 --> 00:29:20,633
and the President believes very
strongly that we can exploit

582
00:29:20,633 --> 00:29:22,633
that resource in a safe
and responsible way.

583
00:29:22,633 --> 00:29:24,266
The Press:
So last thing -- if
that is your policy,

584
00:29:24,266 --> 00:29:26,233
and if the President's approach
-- going back to the '08

585
00:29:26,233 --> 00:29:29,533
campaign -- was about hope and
change and setting a new tone --

586
00:29:29,533 --> 00:29:32,699
of setting a new tone --
somebody saying we should

587
00:29:32,700 --> 00:29:35,100
crucify the industry, why is
that person still working at

588
00:29:35,100 --> 00:29:36,632
the EPA as a political
appointee of the President?

589
00:29:36,633 --> 00:29:37,667
Are you going to fire him?

590
00:29:37,667 --> 00:29:39,699
Mr. Carney:
Well, I think he's apologized
and he's -- what he said is

591
00:29:39,700 --> 00:29:44,900
clearly not representative
of either this President's

592
00:29:44,900 --> 00:29:47,633
belief in the way that
we should approach these

593
00:29:47,633 --> 00:29:50,367
matters or in the way that he
has approached these matters,

594
00:29:50,367 --> 00:29:54,700
either from this office here in
the White House or at the EPA.

595
00:29:54,700 --> 00:29:56,133
Yes, Kristen.

596
00:29:56,133 --> 00:29:57,467
The Press:
Jay, what was the
President's reaction

597
00:29:57,467 --> 00:30:02,066
when he heard about the
allegations out of El Salvador?

598
00:30:02,066 --> 00:30:03,867
Mr. Carney:
I have not spoken
to him about them.

599
00:30:03,867 --> 00:30:07,667
Again, you're talking about
a rumor in a newspaper that,

600
00:30:07,667 --> 00:30:08,833
as far as I know,
is not confirmed,

601
00:30:08,834 --> 00:30:11,166
and I would just refer
you to the Secret Service.

602
00:30:11,166 --> 00:30:11,966
The Press:
It wasn't a rumor.

603
00:30:11,967 --> 00:30:12,767
Mr. Carney:
Well --

604
00:30:12,767 --> 00:30:14,367
The Press:
I mean, it was an
investigation by --

605
00:30:14,367 --> 00:30:15,133
there was a source and then --

606
00:30:15,133 --> 00:30:15,967
The Press:
And the Secret
Service has said that --

607
00:30:15,967 --> 00:30:17,100
Mr. Carney:
And reporters never
-- like investigations,

608
00:30:17,100 --> 00:30:18,100
they never get it wrong.

609
00:30:18,100 --> 00:30:19,466
(laughter)

610
00:30:19,467 --> 00:30:20,667
The Press:
At least somebody
is investigating it.

611
00:30:20,667 --> 00:30:21,300
Mr. Carney:
No, fair enough.

612
00:30:21,300 --> 00:30:22,466
But I haven't talked
to him about it.

613
00:30:22,467 --> 00:30:25,133
I don't have a reaction for you.

614
00:30:25,133 --> 00:30:28,266
The Press:
And going back to Secretary of
Homeland Security Napolitano's

615
00:30:28,266 --> 00:30:31,834
comments yesterday, she also
said that not everybody else

616
00:30:31,834 --> 00:30:33,734
was doing it,
and that, second,

617
00:30:33,734 --> 00:30:35,734
this behavior is not a part
of the Secret Service way

618
00:30:35,734 --> 00:30:36,699
of doing business.

619
00:30:36,700 --> 00:30:38,633
To be fair, she also said the
investigation is continuing.

620
00:30:38,633 --> 00:30:41,233
But is there any concern that
some of those comments may have

621
00:30:41,233 --> 00:30:44,233
been premature?

622
00:30:44,233 --> 00:30:46,000
Mr. Carney:
Well, look, I think the
President has said,

623
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,266
and said as recently
as two nights ago,

624
00:30:48,266 --> 00:30:54,166
that he believes very strongly
that the vast majority of the

625
00:30:54,166 --> 00:30:56,200
men and women who work for
the Secret Service conduct

626
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,633
themselves in an entirely
professional manner,

627
00:30:59,633 --> 00:31:03,367
and they conduct themselves
that way as they carry out a

628
00:31:03,367 --> 00:31:08,767
responsibility that is dangerous
and difficult and essential to

629
00:31:08,767 --> 00:31:10,767
our democracy.

630
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:19,533
This does not excuse any
occasion where those standards

631
00:31:19,533 --> 00:31:21,899
have not been met.

632
00:31:21,900 --> 00:31:27,033
But the President believes, and
I think Secretary Napolitano

633
00:31:27,033 --> 00:31:33,466
reflected this in her remarks,
that the vast majority of those

634
00:31:33,467 --> 00:31:37,433
men and women who work for the
Secret Service are absolute

635
00:31:37,433 --> 00:31:41,200
professionals committed
to their mission,

636
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,200
and that their work
is very important.

637
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,433
The Press:
Shifting topics, Jay --
Senator Marco Rubio has

638
00:31:48,433 --> 00:31:51,600
proposed his own DREAM Act of
sorts, which the administration,

639
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,065
I believe, feels doesn't go
far enough to create a path to

640
00:31:54,066 --> 00:31:56,133
citizenship for some
children of immigrants.

641
00:31:56,133 --> 00:31:58,266
Has the President
reviewed this plan --

642
00:31:58,266 --> 00:31:59,567
Mr. Carney:
I think that's actually
not a quite accurate

643
00:31:59,567 --> 00:32:02,834
representation of
his loose proposal,

644
00:32:02,834 --> 00:32:04,767
which is not in
legislative form.

645
00:32:04,767 --> 00:32:07,367
But in terms of the
path to citizenship --

646
00:32:07,367 --> 00:32:08,767
The Press:
Has the President
reviewed this plan?

647
00:32:08,767 --> 00:32:09,467
Mr. Carney:
Has the President --

648
00:32:09,467 --> 00:32:10,266
The Press:
-- reviewed this plan?

649
00:32:10,266 --> 00:32:11,100
Mr. Carney:
Have you?

650
00:32:11,100 --> 00:32:13,500
I don't think it's ever been
presented, to my knowledge.

651
00:32:13,500 --> 00:32:14,300
But the --

652
00:32:14,300 --> 00:32:15,066
The Press:
Has the President --

653
00:32:15,066 --> 00:32:17,967
Mr. Carney:
Let's just -- well, let's go
back to what we're talking

654
00:32:17,967 --> 00:32:19,900
about here.

655
00:32:19,900 --> 00:32:22,233
The President has repeatedly
made clear that he is a strong

656
00:32:22,233 --> 00:32:24,734
proponent of comprehensive
immigration reform in order to

657
00:32:24,734 --> 00:32:28,332
restore accountability and
responsibility to a badly broken

658
00:32:28,333 --> 00:32:31,700
immigration system, which
is something that's vitally

659
00:32:31,700 --> 00:32:39,967
important to building an economy
that has the foundation for --

660
00:32:39,967 --> 00:32:43,667
necessary so that America
can compete and win in

661
00:32:43,667 --> 00:32:45,065
the 21st century.

662
00:32:45,066 --> 00:32:48,433
And that position includes his
very strong support for the

663
00:32:48,433 --> 00:32:49,433
DREAM Act.

664
00:32:49,433 --> 00:32:52,333
And it's important to remember
that the only reason the DREAM

665
00:32:52,333 --> 00:32:56,266
Act is not law right now, the
only reason that immigration --

666
00:32:56,266 --> 00:33:00,100
comprehensive immigration reform
is not law right now is because

667
00:33:00,100 --> 00:33:03,766
Republicans have consistently
demagogued the issue and blocked

668
00:33:03,767 --> 00:33:07,400
action in Congress.

669
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,300
Now, if Republicans are ready
to recognize that we can work

670
00:33:11,300 --> 00:33:13,934
together on this issue, and
if they want to start with

671
00:33:13,934 --> 00:33:16,133
the DREAM Act and give young
people who have been raised as

672
00:33:16,133 --> 00:33:18,400
Americans a path to citizenship
so they can serve in our

673
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,200
military, put their talent
to work in our schools,

674
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,400
work in our labs and
start businesses,

675
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:25,400
then we should do that.

676
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,066
And let's give them a rigorous
and thorough process to get

677
00:33:28,066 --> 00:33:29,967
right with the law,
but one that provides

678
00:33:29,967 --> 00:33:31,367
a pathway to citizenship.

679
00:33:31,367 --> 00:33:34,834
And I think this
is an issue here.

680
00:33:34,834 --> 00:33:35,834
That's what makes sense.

681
00:33:35,834 --> 00:33:39,567
And the President is
ready to sign into law

682
00:33:39,567 --> 00:33:41,500
such a bill tomorrow.

683
00:33:41,500 --> 00:33:43,233
We need to do this in a
bipartisan way -- that's

684
00:33:43,233 --> 00:33:44,233
been proven.

685
00:33:44,233 --> 00:33:45,233
I mean, we had a
situation where,

686
00:33:45,233 --> 00:33:46,734
with comprehensive
immigration reform,

687
00:33:46,734 --> 00:33:48,466
one of the major proponents of
it abandoned his support for it

688
00:33:48,467 --> 00:33:53,567
on the Republican side.

689
00:33:53,567 --> 00:33:58,166
So the President is willing to
work with any member of Congress

690
00:33:58,166 --> 00:34:00,200
who is willing to work
constructively on this issue,

691
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,800
and he's going to continue
to fight for this much

692
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,433
needed reform.

693
00:34:03,433 --> 00:34:04,233
Peter.

694
00:34:04,233 --> 00:34:09,199
The Press:
Jay, General Gantz of
Israel was quoted on an

695
00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:11,833
interview yesterday saying that
he does not think Iran was going

696
00:34:11,833 --> 00:34:14,000
to build a nuclear bomb.

697
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:14,766
What does that --

698
00:34:14,766 --> 00:34:15,799
Mr. Carney:
Saying what, I'm sorry?

699
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,400
The Press:
Does not believe Iran is
going to build a nuclear

700
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:23,667
bomb, seemingly taking a
position less strident, perhaps,

701
00:34:23,667 --> 00:34:26,165
than Prime Minister Netanyahu's
assessment of the situation.

702
00:34:26,166 --> 00:34:28,300
How does the White
House look at this?

703
00:34:28,300 --> 00:34:31,066
Does that change or
affect in any way how

704
00:34:31,065 --> 00:34:34,100
you all view that issue?

705
00:34:34,100 --> 00:34:35,266
Mr. Carney:
Well, no, it doesn't.

706
00:34:35,266 --> 00:34:40,967
We are firmly committed,
Peter, to preventing Iran

707
00:34:40,967 --> 00:34:42,700
from acquiring a nuclear weapon.

708
00:34:42,699 --> 00:34:44,833
That is the focal
point of our policy.

709
00:34:44,833 --> 00:34:48,734
When the President
came into office,

710
00:34:48,734 --> 00:34:53,967
the world was divided about this
issue and about the appropriate

711
00:34:53,967 --> 00:34:55,767
approach to it.

712
00:34:55,766 --> 00:34:57,633
Because of the policy approach
the President has taken,

713
00:34:57,633 --> 00:35:02,834
the world is now united at
making -- in making clear that

714
00:35:02,834 --> 00:35:05,299
it is Iranian behavior
that is the issue;

715
00:35:05,300 --> 00:35:09,033
it is Iran's failure to
demonstrate to the international

716
00:35:09,033 --> 00:35:13,100
community that it does not
seek a nuclear weapon that

717
00:35:13,100 --> 00:35:14,400
is the issue.

718
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,934
And what the P5-plus-1 talks
represent, essentially,

719
00:35:18,934 --> 00:35:27,533
is an avenue for Iran to change
that equation by demonstrating

720
00:35:27,533 --> 00:35:31,200
that, in a verifiable way, that
they will forsake their nuclear

721
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,966
weapons ambitions.

722
00:35:32,967 --> 00:35:37,467
And if they do that, there is a
path open to Iran to rejoining

723
00:35:37,467 --> 00:35:39,367
the international
community of nations,

724
00:35:39,367 --> 00:35:43,533
ending their severe isolation
and ending the punishing

725
00:35:43,533 --> 00:35:45,967
sanctions that have been
imposed upon them because

726
00:35:45,967 --> 00:35:47,533
of their bad behavior.

727
00:35:47,533 --> 00:35:48,967
The Press:
But does the United
States share General

728
00:35:48,967 --> 00:35:51,166
Gantz's view that, in fact,
Iran is not likely to build

729
00:35:51,166 --> 00:35:52,433
a nuclear bomb?

730
00:35:52,433 --> 00:35:58,600
Mr. Carney:
Look, I think we've discussed
various assessments by this

731
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:05,400
administration or this U.S.
government on Iran's programs

732
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,400
and intentions.

733
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:13,100
We have said that they are
some time away from having the

734
00:36:13,100 --> 00:36:17,033
capacity to build a weapon.

735
00:36:17,033 --> 00:36:21,433
But we are very clear-eyed
about Iranian intentions,

736
00:36:21,433 --> 00:36:25,900
and that is why we insist on
verifiable action as opposed

737
00:36:25,900 --> 00:36:27,433
to promises in rhetoric.

738
00:36:27,433 --> 00:36:30,133
The Press:
Another topic, real quickly
-- the Judicial Watch says

739
00:36:30,133 --> 00:36:32,700
it's received
documents from you all,

740
00:36:32,700 --> 00:36:33,866
from the administration,
the government,

741
00:36:33,867 --> 00:36:37,066
showing that Mrs. Obama's
trip to Spain in 2010 cost

742
00:36:37,066 --> 00:36:40,299
the taxpayers $467,000.

743
00:36:40,300 --> 00:36:41,800
Do you all have any
comment on that?

744
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:42,667
Mr. Carney:
I haven't seen that.

745
00:36:42,667 --> 00:36:45,133
I think we addressed this
issue a long time ago,

746
00:36:45,133 --> 00:36:48,299
but I'll have to -- I don't
think I have a comment on it,

747
00:36:48,300 --> 00:36:49,200
but thanks.

748
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,100
Yes, Jared.

749
00:36:51,100 --> 00:36:52,967
The Press:
I know you were asked about
this two days ago on Air Force

750
00:36:52,967 --> 00:36:54,233
One -- you said
you'd look into it.

751
00:36:54,233 --> 00:36:56,000
But when the President --

752
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:56,900
Mr. Carney:
I hope I did. Sorry.

753
00:36:56,900 --> 00:36:58,000
(laughter)

754
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,800
I sometimes forget.

755
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,133
The Press:
When the President --
or if the President was

756
00:37:01,133 --> 00:37:05,165
briefed on the Bo Xilai scandal
that's been going on in China?

757
00:37:05,166 --> 00:37:06,667
Mr. Carney:
Look, I think -- I want
to make clear a couple

758
00:37:06,667 --> 00:37:07,633
of things about this.

759
00:37:07,633 --> 00:37:09,466
One is, this is obviously
something that's in the press,

760
00:37:09,467 --> 00:37:12,400
and I'm sure that he is
aware of it through that.

761
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,367
He gets briefed regularly on
both things that aren't in the

762
00:37:15,367 --> 00:37:17,700
press as well as
things that are,

763
00:37:17,700 --> 00:37:24,466
that are matters of concern or
just matters that are out there

764
00:37:24,467 --> 00:37:26,166
on the national
security horizon.

765
00:37:26,166 --> 00:37:28,967
This is an issue within China.

766
00:37:28,967 --> 00:37:32,467
And I think the State Department
is a good place to ask questions

767
00:37:32,467 --> 00:37:32,967
about this.

768
00:37:32,967 --> 00:37:36,767
This is not a White House
matter, particularly.

769
00:37:36,767 --> 00:37:38,799
So when you asked me, when
was he briefed on it, I mean,

770
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,667
I think he -- I don't
know that he was.

771
00:37:40,667 --> 00:37:44,967
I'm not in the habit of ticking
off the subject items in every

772
00:37:44,967 --> 00:37:47,467
intelligence or presidential
daily briefing he gets.

773
00:37:47,467 --> 00:37:51,467
But this is not an item
that requires presidential

774
00:37:51,467 --> 00:37:53,033
action or attention.

775
00:37:53,033 --> 00:37:55,000
The Press:
I mean, this is a
leadership issue in China.

776
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,300
They're a huge economic power.

777
00:37:56,300 --> 00:37:57,000
I mean --

778
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,934
Mr. Carney:
But -- so if you're asking
me if he's aware of it,

779
00:37:59,934 --> 00:38:00,734
I'm sure he is.

780
00:38:00,734 --> 00:38:01,767
But beyond that --

781
00:38:01,767 --> 00:38:02,834
The Press:
Has he been briefed on it?

782
00:38:02,834 --> 00:38:03,633
I guess that's --

783
00:38:03,633 --> 00:38:05,265
Mr. Carney:
I just -- I don't know.

784
00:38:05,266 --> 00:38:09,800
But again, this is not a policy
matter for the United States or

785
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:16,233
-- it is obviously a story
that if you read the newspapers

786
00:38:16,233 --> 00:38:18,700
you're following, but beyond
that I just don't have really

787
00:38:18,700 --> 00:38:19,899
a comment on it.

788
00:38:19,900 --> 00:38:24,567
The Press:
And then yesterday, Chairman
Bernanke said that the Fed would

789
00:38:24,567 --> 00:38:27,700
not be able to I guess offset
the fiscal cliff that would

790
00:38:27,700 --> 00:38:30,567
happen at the end of the year
if the Bush tax cuts weren't

791
00:38:30,567 --> 00:38:33,066
renewed and the payroll
tax cut weren't renewed.

792
00:38:33,066 --> 00:38:35,700
And I wonder if that complicates
the President's effort to try

793
00:38:35,700 --> 00:38:38,533
and make sure that those -- that
the Bush tax cuts themselves

794
00:38:38,533 --> 00:38:41,100
aren't extended.

795
00:38:41,100 --> 00:38:43,633
Mr. Carney:
I'm not sure that's exactly
how I understood his comments.

796
00:38:43,633 --> 00:38:48,165
But what I think -- I think
what his assessment and the

797
00:38:48,166 --> 00:38:49,700
assessments of others,
including the President,

798
00:38:49,700 --> 00:38:54,133
make clear is that we
need to take concerted,

799
00:38:54,133 --> 00:38:58,667
bipartisan action to address
our deficit and debt challenges.

800
00:38:58,667 --> 00:39:01,366
And we need to do it
in a balanced way.

801
00:39:01,367 --> 00:39:05,300
We need to do it in a way that
bipartisan commissions that have

802
00:39:05,300 --> 00:39:08,433
addressed this problem
have all said is essential.

803
00:39:08,433 --> 00:39:11,767
You have to look -- I mean, this
is not -- there's been enough

804
00:39:11,767 --> 00:39:16,533
attention and enough study
of this issue of late,

805
00:39:16,533 --> 00:39:19,000
that I think everyone
understands that it's actually

806
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,233
not that complicated
in the broadest sense.

807
00:39:22,233 --> 00:39:27,200
You need to reduce nondefense
discretionary spending pretty

808
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,000
significantly, and
we've done that.

809
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,967
Lowest levels of nondefense
discretionary spending since

810
00:39:31,967 --> 00:39:35,433
Dwight Eisenhower was President,
before most people in this room

811
00:39:35,433 --> 00:39:37,934
were born, okay?

812
00:39:37,934 --> 00:39:42,600
Second, you need to deal
with, in a responsible way,

813
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,567
reductions in defense spending.

814
00:39:44,567 --> 00:39:47,000
The President has proposed that.

815
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:51,600
You need to deal with reform of
entitlement programs in a way

816
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:55,232
that ensures that the essential
benefits and guarantees

817
00:39:55,233 --> 00:39:58,834
represented by Medicare and
Social Security remain available

818
00:39:58,834 --> 00:40:02,066
to future generations
of Americans,

819
00:40:02,066 --> 00:40:06,066
but that reform those programs
so that they retain their

820
00:40:06,066 --> 00:40:07,767
solvency going forward.

821
00:40:07,767 --> 00:40:09,899
The President has proposed that.

822
00:40:09,900 --> 00:40:13,100
And you need to -- as a
matter of essential balance,

823
00:40:13,100 --> 00:40:16,967
so that you don't have to gut
everything else -- you need to

824
00:40:16,967 --> 00:40:17,967
increase revenues.

825
00:40:17,967 --> 00:40:19,700
You need to look at
tax expenditures.

826
00:40:19,700 --> 00:40:22,767
And the President has
proposed exactly that.

827
00:40:22,767 --> 00:40:27,000
The one missing element in all
of this has been -- in embracing

828
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,467
that comprehensive, balanced
approach -- has been

829
00:40:29,467 --> 00:40:32,333
Republicans, by and large,
and elected Republicans.

830
00:40:32,333 --> 00:40:33,800
Republicans out in the
country support it.

831
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:38,467
Republicans who used to be
elected but are retired now

832
00:40:38,467 --> 00:40:40,033
support it.

833
00:40:40,033 --> 00:40:42,933
Republican statesmen support it.

834
00:40:42,934 --> 00:40:45,633
But members of the House
in particular, but also

835
00:40:45,633 --> 00:40:46,933
the Senate, don't.

836
00:40:46,934 --> 00:40:50,033
And I think that is severely
at odds with American public

837
00:40:50,033 --> 00:40:55,100
opinion and it's severely at
odds with common-sense policy.

838
00:40:55,100 --> 00:40:56,633
So that's our position.

839
00:41:00,266 --> 00:41:02,633
Wow.

840
00:41:02,633 --> 00:41:06,533
Voice of America, more
foreign policy, please.

841
00:41:06,533 --> 00:41:09,033
The Press:
Thank you, always enlightening.

842
00:41:09,033 --> 00:41:11,567
To go back to your statement
about the assessment of

843
00:41:11,567 --> 00:41:14,367
continuing intent by al
Qaeda affiliates -- I'm

844
00:41:14,367 --> 00:41:15,934
asking about Yemen.

845
00:41:15,934 --> 00:41:17,867
We've seen an escalating
conflict there between

846
00:41:17,867 --> 00:41:19,734
government troops
and al Qaeda forces.

847
00:41:19,734 --> 00:41:23,433
And we've seen a lot of
deaths and wounded there.

848
00:41:23,433 --> 00:41:25,633
The FBI director was
there the other day.

849
00:41:25,633 --> 00:41:27,799
What should Americans
think about that situation

850
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:28,633
at this point?

851
00:41:28,633 --> 00:41:31,966
Should they think it's
improving, in terms of the --

852
00:41:31,967 --> 00:41:33,867
Mr. Carney:
Well, we remain very
focused on supporting

853
00:41:33,867 --> 00:41:36,633
a peaceful transition,
political transition in Yemen.

854
00:41:36,633 --> 00:41:40,100
And we'll continue to stand by
the Yemeni people as they take

855
00:41:40,100 --> 00:41:42,066
steps to realize a more
secure, prosperous,

856
00:41:42,066 --> 00:41:43,933
and democratic future.

857
00:41:43,934 --> 00:41:49,433
It is obviously a
very important place,

858
00:41:49,433 --> 00:41:50,967
and we have made that
clear with regards to

859
00:41:50,967 --> 00:41:51,967
our national security.

860
00:41:51,967 --> 00:41:54,800
Our approach to Yemen
is comprehensive.

861
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,633
And we will continue, as
the transition progresses,

862
00:41:58,633 --> 00:42:00,533
to meet the needs of the
Yemeni people by delivering

863
00:42:00,533 --> 00:42:03,100
humanitarian and economic aid,
as well as providing security

864
00:42:03,100 --> 00:42:06,700
and counterterrorism support,
to combat the common threat

865
00:42:06,700 --> 00:42:09,466
of violent extremism.

866
00:42:09,467 --> 00:42:13,600
As I said earlier, which I
think you made reference to,

867
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:19,299
al Qaeda, despite the successes
that we have achieved in the

868
00:42:19,300 --> 00:42:22,900
fight against it, remains a
threat to the United States.

869
00:42:22,900 --> 00:42:31,133
And AQAP is in particular
a threat, as we see it.

870
00:42:31,667 --> 00:42:37,667
So that's why we have the
relationship that we have with

871
00:42:37,667 --> 00:42:41,133
Yemen in terms of our joint
efforts to fight the threat of

872
00:42:41,133 --> 00:42:43,734
violent extremism, and that's
why we'll continue to do that.

873
00:42:43,734 --> 00:42:45,232
The Press:
Are the drone strikes helping --

874
00:42:45,233 --> 00:42:48,667
Mr. Carney:
Well, you know I'm not going
to comment on counterterrorism

875
00:42:48,667 --> 00:42:51,232
authorities or
intelligence matters,

876
00:42:51,233 --> 00:42:53,667
but we do obviously cooperate.

877
00:42:53,667 --> 00:42:54,333
The Press:
Foreign policy --

878
00:42:54,333 --> 00:42:55,700
Mr. Carney:
Yes, Jon-Christopher.

879
00:42:55,700 --> 00:42:58,433
The Press:
According to satellite imagery
being collected here in the U.S.,

880
00:42:58,433 --> 00:43:01,767
there is unambiguous evidence
that the Sudanese military are

881
00:43:01,767 --> 00:43:08,033
once again bombing unarmed South
Sudan folks, civilians there.

882
00:43:08,033 --> 00:43:09,066
Do you have any comment on that?

883
00:43:09,066 --> 00:43:11,066
Mr. Carney:
Well, I think I actually
addressed this the other day,

884
00:43:11,066 --> 00:43:14,000
but -- and my answer is the
same today as it was then,

885
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,433
which is that we strongly
condemn that violence,

886
00:43:17,433 --> 00:43:25,133
assaults on the South Sudanese,
and we call on all sides to

887
00:43:25,133 --> 00:43:29,567
refrain from taking
military action.

888
00:43:29,567 --> 00:43:36,934
We are working very closely with
our international partners on

889
00:43:36,934 --> 00:43:40,200
this issue and monitoring
it very closely.

890
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,299
The Press:
One more?

891
00:43:42,300 --> 00:43:45,133
Mr. Carney:
Yes. Yes, with the camera, sure.

892
00:43:45,133 --> 00:43:46,200
The Press:
Thank you.

893
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,533
A few days ago, the U.S.
President made a statement

894
00:43:48,533 --> 00:43:53,633
on the Armenian Remembrance Day
in which he avoided directly

895
00:43:53,633 --> 00:43:55,767
characterizing what has
happened to Armenians in

896
00:43:55,767 --> 00:43:59,000
1915 mass genocide -- although
that was one of his promises

897
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,834
during the election campaign
that he would do so and he would

898
00:44:01,834 --> 00:44:05,533
describe what happened to
Armenians -- mass genocide.

899
00:44:05,533 --> 00:44:08,133
So your comment on this --
why these discrepancies?

900
00:44:08,133 --> 00:44:09,366
Mr. Carney:
Well, I would point
you to the statement.

901
00:44:09,367 --> 00:44:11,066
The President's position
on this is well known,

902
00:44:11,066 --> 00:44:14,866
and I think the statement
was fairly comprehensive.

903
00:44:14,867 --> 00:44:16,066
The Press:
Can I quickly follow up?

904
00:44:16,066 --> 00:44:16,834
Mr. Carney:
Yes.

905
00:44:16,834 --> 00:44:20,767
The Press:
There was a U.S. President who
actually did describe the event

906
00:44:20,767 --> 00:44:22,332
of 1915 mass genocide.

907
00:44:22,333 --> 00:44:25,734
That was Ronald Reagan who did
that back in 1981, in April.

908
00:44:25,734 --> 00:44:26,866
He was already in this building.

909
00:44:26,867 --> 00:44:32,166
So I wonder if the records --
the institutional memory of this

910
00:44:32,166 --> 00:44:34,934
building has kept
this file that --

911
00:44:34,934 --> 00:44:37,400
Mr. Carney:
Again, I would just point you
to the President's statement

912
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,734
and the fact that his position
on this issue is well known.

913
00:44:40,734 --> 00:44:41,467
All the way in the back.

914
00:44:42,166 --> 00:44:43,033
The Press:
Thanks, Jay.

915
00:44:43,033 --> 00:44:45,533
The Press:
Secretary of State today
announced that she'll be

916
00:44:45,533 --> 00:44:47,900
traveling to India next
month, early next month,

917
00:44:47,900 --> 00:44:49,834
along with China.

918
00:44:49,834 --> 00:44:51,700
This was not in
the trip initially.

919
00:44:51,700 --> 00:44:55,633
Is she carrying any message from
the President on the India trip?

920
00:44:55,633 --> 00:44:58,165
Mr. Carney:
I would refer you to the
State Department on that.

921
00:44:58,166 --> 00:45:00,300
I don't have any
information on her trip.

922
00:45:00,300 --> 00:45:01,066
Thank you all, very much.

923
00:45:01,066 --> 00:45:01,633
The Press:
Thanks, Jay.