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Mr. Carney:
Good afternoon,
ladies and gentlemen.

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Welcome to the White House.

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Thanks for coming.

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I have no announcements so I
will go straight to questions.

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Mr. Babbington.

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The Press:
Thank you, Jay.

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Mitt Romney, at the NAACP
meeting today in Houston,

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said that his policies and
leadership would help the

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families of color more so than
policies and leadership of

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President Obama.

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What's your reaction to that?

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Mr. Carney:
Well, I didn't see the speech.

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I can simply say that the
President's policies from the

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day he took office have been
focused on helping all Americans

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recover from the worst recession
since the Great Depression.

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His policies have
focused in particular

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on middle-class families.

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And one thing we know is that
African Americans as well as

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other minority communities were
particularly hard hit by the

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recession, and therefore some of
the policies the President put

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in place -- including
the Recovery Act,

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and including his call this
week for Congress to extend

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middle-class tax cuts -- will
benefit all Americans -- all

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middle-class Americans,
including African Americans as

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well as other communities.

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So I think this is a broader
debate about what the right

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economic policies are for
this country moving forward.

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The President is committed to
policies that help expand the

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middle class.

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His vision is founded in the
idea that our country grows best

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when it grows from
the middle class out,

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rather than the top down.

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And that's a vision and a theory
that has been tested in practice

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within the last 15 years or so,
and the top-down approach in the

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previous administration, the
middle-out approach in the

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administration before that,
and I know you've seen the

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comparative statistics on how
those policies worked out for

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the American economy and the
middle class in particular.

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The Press:
Did the President's decision
not to the NAACP meeting suggest

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that he takes the
black vote for granted?

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Mr. Carney:
Well, for campaign-specific
questions about voting blocs

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and things like that I'd
refer you to the campaign.

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I can tell you that the
President enjoyed addressing

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the NAACP in 2009 for their
centennial celebration,

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where he thanked the
organization for being

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pioneers of social change and
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rights in our country.

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Last year -- rather in 2010,
the First Lady addressed the

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convention, and last year the
President met with Ben Jealous

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in the Oval Office to discuss
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African American community.

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The Vice President of the United
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convention this year.

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The Press:
Why did the President
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given that he can --

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Mr. Carney:
For scheduling --

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The Press:
He can control the schedule,
he's the President.

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Mr. Carney:
Certainly.

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But again, he's spoken before
the organization in the past,

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he met with Ben
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his Vice President is
speaking this year.

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He is -- for campaign
scheduling I would refer

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you to the campaign.

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But I think that his commitment
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broader community
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The Press:
A couple of questions on Syria.

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Kofi Annan has proposed, and the
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and China, that Iran be given a
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to resolve the Syria crisis.

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Would the U.S., would the
administration rule out an

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Iranian role in such efforts?

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Mr. Carney:
Well, I would simply point to
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thus far, and I think one would
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suggest that it's been
a constructive role.

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We're focused on working with
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international partners who want
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resolving the
situation in Syria.

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We are working very closely,
obviously, with Kofi Annan.

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We're in regular consultations
with the Russians and others

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about the steps we need to take
to build a consensus around the

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idea of a transition for
which time is running short.

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Our interest is in an outcome
that gives the Syrian people the

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best chance for a
brighter future.

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We believe very strongly that
President Assad has no place in

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that transition, because he
long ago lost all credibility he

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might have had and any claim to
be a participant in a transition

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to a democratic
future for Syria.

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I think that we have
seen, increasingly,

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evidence that Assad
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both his regime internationally,
but internally we've seen

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defections at a very high level,
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We have seen progress on the
international front in terms of

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building a consensus, including
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And we firmly believe that
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determined by the Syrian people,
and it does not have room for

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President Assad.

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The Press:
You're saying that Iran has not
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far, up to this point.

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Can they not -- is there
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participate in
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either contact group
negotiations or -- to

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help push the process
in the right direction?

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Mr. Carney:
Well, look, I think countries
in the region have interests

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in the region.

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I think Iran's role has not
been productive or helpful.

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Our interest is in working
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stability in Syria, want to
see an end to the bloodshed,

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want to see a democratic
future for the Syrian people.

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I'm not excluding anything.

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I'm simply saying that we are
very clear-eyed about what and

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-- who are likely to be helpful
participants in constructing

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that future, and who is not.

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Again, without
ruling anything out,

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I'm simply focusing on where
we think progress can be made.

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The Press:
Okay.

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Does the U.S. reject the
idea of Iran playing a role?

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Mr. Carney:
We reject that it's likely
that Iran could play a

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constructive role.

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But our interest is in moving
forward towards a consensus that

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allows for a transition that
gives the Syrian people the

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best chance for
a brighter future.

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The Press:
Okay. And last thing -- the Syrian opposition officials

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are saying that Syria's
ambassador to Iraq has defected.

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Do you all have any
confirmation of that?

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And if so, how significant is
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Assad's inner circle
have gone in one week?

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Mr. Carney:
I don't have
confirmation of that.

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I can tell you that there have
been a number of high-level

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defections in recent
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and they are simply
the tip of the iceberg.

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There have been many, many
defections within the military

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leadership, within
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and I think that that is an
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support for Assad is
crumbling -- internationally

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and internally.

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And that's a
welcome development.

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And we have, as you know,
called on those around Assad to

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consider their options here, to
see what Assad is doing to his

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own people, to understand that
siding with Assad is allying

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with a tyrant who will go
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and that the right
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to abandon the regime, and
support the Syrian people in

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their pursuit of
a better future.

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Dan.

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The Press:
Thank you.

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Yesterday, during -- or after
the hearings to repeal health

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care, there was a lot of
colorful language used by

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lawmakers, one Democrat making
the comparison -- the obsession

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by Republicans -- making
the comparison to the Fatal

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Attraction character
of Glenn Close;

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a Republican making the
comparison to Boss Hogg.

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Does the President think this
kind of tone is appropriate?

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Mr. Carney:
Both of those anecdotes are new
to me and I haven't discussed

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them with --

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The Press:
You did not hear about that?

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Mr. Carney:
I didn't.

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The Press:
We talked about it this
morning on the air.

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Mr. Carney:
On CNN?

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The Press:
Yes, we did.

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Mr. Carney:
I'm sorry, I was in a meeting.

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(laughter)

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But, look, I think the point I
would make about this is that

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the President believes
a couple of things.

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One, the Affordable Care Act
was the right thing to do.

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It has been upheld
by the Supreme Court.

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We are committed to
implementing the law,

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which will bring benefits -- has
brought benefits to millions of

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Americans, and will bring
benefits to millions more.

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The fact that the House of
Representatives has voted --

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Republicans have voted for
the 33rd time, by my count,

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to either repeal or defund
the Affordable Care Act in a

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quixotic effort to try to
score political points I think

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demonstrates exactly what people
out in the country loathe about

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politics in Washington.

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We do not need to refight the
battles of two years ago and

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three years ago.

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We need to take steps to
help the American people,

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the American economy now.

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Casting these votes again and
again and again -- it's probably

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on average once every few weeks
-- does nothing to improve the

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bottom line for
middle-class families,

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does nothing to send a single
18-year-old American to college,

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does nothing to help build new
industries in this country,

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and it certainly does nothing to
help provide health care to the

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American people.

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So we're focused on implementing
a law that has been passed,

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that has been upheld
by the Supreme Court,

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and in calling on Congress,
as the President is this week,

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to take actions that will
provide concrete results for the

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American people, for the middle
class, and for the economy.

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They could do that by passing
an extension of the middle-class

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tax cuts that would go to 98
percent of the American people.

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They could do that this week and
the President would sign it into

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law right away.

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They could do it by passing the
small business tax credits that

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-- or tax cuts that the
President has put forward as

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part of his "To-Do" list that
the Senate is acting on this

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week, that would reward small
businesses that hire new

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employees or increase the wages
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They could do it by passing
the unpassed elements of the

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American Jobs Act
that would put,

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by the estimate of
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a million Americans
back to work.

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Everyone seems to agree that the
economy is the central issue of

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our time right now
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that we need to help it grow, we
need to take measures that help

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it create more jobs.

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Congress should be
focusing on that.

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That's our opinion.

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The Press:
On the whole outsourcing
debate, you folks,

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the Obama campaign has been for
some time now accusing Romney of

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being part of a company
that outsourced jobs,

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and now Romney making the sort
of counterclaim that stimulus

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dollars led to U.S.
jobs going overseas.

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Was stimulus money sent
to foreign companies?

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Mr. Carney:
Well, I think there is an
element here -- I would refer

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you for campaign-specific
things to the campaign.

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I think there is an element --

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The Press:
But the stimulus dollars --

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Mr. Carney:
-- yes, no I appreciate
the question.

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That's a policy question
and I'll answer it.

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There is an element here of "I
know you are but what am I" to

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this charge.

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But the facts tell
a different story.

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The Recovery Act, by, again,
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estimation, saved or
created over 3 million jobs.

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The Recovery Act helped create
new industries in this country

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or build new industries
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including the advanced
battery industry,

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that barely existed
here in the past.

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And the investments in those
industries helped fund thousands

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and thousands of jobs.

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On the insourcing point, making
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foreign companies to come here
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American workers as opposed to
doing it overseas -- that's a

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good thing.

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That's a good thing for
the American economy,

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and it's a good thing
for American workers.

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I mean, the charge is just --
it doesn't pass the laugh test.

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And I would point you to what
the President supports now

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versus what Republicans oppose.

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The President has been pushing
for Congress to take action to

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reward companies that bring jobs
back home to the United States,

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and to cease incentivizing
companies for moving

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jobs overseas.

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Republicans oppose that.

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So this President's record
on bringing jobs home,

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creating jobs here in America
I think is pretty clear,

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and it stands in stark
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to the opposition to those
measures that we've seen

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from Republicans in Congress.

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The Press:
So you're saying stimulus money
did go to foreign companies but

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it was to create jobs
here, domestically?

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Mr. Carney:
I think in some cases it
went to companies that have,

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like a lot of companies, that
have operations both overseas

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and in the United States.

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The money -- and I think there's
been some good reporting on this

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-- the funds from the Recovery
Act that went to these companies

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went to operations in the United
States that created jobs for

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American workers here at home.

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And that was the purpose.

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And again, the opposition to the
Recovery Act -- at the time -- I

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know you were here -- there was
a broad recognition that we had

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to do something to stop what was
a crisis the likes of which most

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of us had never
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We now know that the economy
shrank in the fourth quarter of

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2008 by nearly 9 percent.

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We know that the economy was
shedding jobs at a rate of

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750,000 to 800,000 per
month in January of 2009.

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Significant action
had to be taken.

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The President took that action,
with the help of Congress,

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and the Recovery Act not only
saved or created more than 3

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million jobs, it helped invest
in industries that will do two

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things: one, continue to create
American jobs in the United

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States, and two, help develop
industries in this country,

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especially in clean energy,
that will provide us national

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security benefits and a
competitive edge against China

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and India and Europe and the
rest of the world going into the

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21st century.

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It helped build a foundation for
a 21st century economy that will

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allow us to compete at a level
that otherwise we might not have

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been able to.

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The Press:
In the process, though, did it
also help lose jobs for some of

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those companies overseas?

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Mr. Carney:
Again, no. It did not.

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Not for Americans -- I would
look at the reporting on this,

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it's pretty clear.

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Yes, in the back.

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The Press:
Thank you, Jay. Two questions.

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First is on Myanmar.

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What's the President's
expectation to new ambassador

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to Myanmar, Derek Mitchell?

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Mr. Carney:
What's the -- sorry?

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The Press:
Expectation from the President to
the new ambassador to Myanmar.

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Mr. Carney:
What's his expectation?

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I think I'd refer you to
the State Department on

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a new ambassador.

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There were actions taken
today by the President to

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ease restrictions to allow
U.S. companies to responsibly

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do business in
Burma, as you know.

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And easing sanctions is a
strong signal of our support

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for reform, and will provide
immediate incentives for

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reformers and significant
benefits to the people of Burma.

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I mean, I can provide more
information for you on that.

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I don't have anything for
you on the ambassador.

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The Press:
The second question, Mr. Romney
called China a cheater --

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(inaudible) -- so does the
President support his idea

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on clamping on China?

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Mr. Carney:
The President has been very
clear about his position on the

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need to take action to ensure
that American companies and

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American workers are able to
compete on a level playing field

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-- with China and other
international competitors.

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And where this administration,
this President,

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have seen unfair
trade practices,

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we have taken action at
twice the rate of the

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previous administration.

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At the WTO, as you know, there
was another action taken just

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last week at the WTO against
China over duties on -- tariffs

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on American automobiles.

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We have a very important
relationship with China that

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encompasses a lot
of different areas.

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Where we have disagreements,
we're very clear about those

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disagreements and we work
through them in a methodical

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way, and we take action where
we believe it's necessary.

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The Press:
So does the President believe
this kind of bashing China

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strategy might hurt the future
in U.S.-China relations?

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Mr. Carney:
Well, I'm not aware of the
remarks that you cited.

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I think the President is
committed to a relationship

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with China that is in
the best interests of

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the American people.

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And he believes that achieving
that relationship is also in the

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best interest of
the Chinese people.

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But he is very focused on
ensuring that American companies

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and American workers are
able to compete on a level

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playing field.

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And that's why he has taken the
kinds of aggressive actions he

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has -- his administration
has -- in a very methodical,

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non-inflammatory way, but a very
direct way, through the WTO.

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The seventh case was
brought forward last week.

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The six previous cases
under this administration

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were all successful.

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And those successes
benefit American workers

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and American companies.

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Laura, then Wendell.

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The Press:
First I want to follow up
on Myanmar announcement.

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Are you concerned -- or how
would you respond I guess to the

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criticism from some activists
who say that this opens the door

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to doing business with state oil
firms that have not been part of

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the reforms and, in fact, that
could be counterproductive?

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Mr. Carney:
Well, I think that the actions
announced today are fairly

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complex, and I think it's
important to understand what's

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at work here.

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We retain all the authorities
to impose sanctions that we

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had previously.

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We have eased some sanctions,
but as we indicated in May,

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the armed forces and Ministry of
Defense-owned entities will not

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be covered by these
general licenses that

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are covered by this.

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In addition, U.S. companies
will be asked to report on

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their activities in line
with international corporate

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governance standards.

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The President, as you know, also
signed a new executive order

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that expands the Secretary of
Treasury's existing sanctions

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authorities to those who
undermine the reform process,

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engage in human rights abuses,
contribute to ethnic conflict,

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or participate in military
trade with North Korea.

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In sum, this order is a clear
message to Burmese government

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and military officials: Those
individuals who continue to

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engage in abusive, corrupt, or
destabilizing behavior going

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forward will not reap
the rewards of reform.

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So the measures announced today
are designed to recognize the

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progress that has
been made on reform,

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but retain all the authorities
to ensure that those individuals

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who continue, or companies that
continue to engage in abusive,

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corrupt, or destabilizing
behavior do not benefit.

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The Press:
But do you anticipate that this
will open the door for U.S.

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energy firms to do business
with state-owned oil companies?

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Mr. Carney:
I don't have specific
industry-based analysis for you.

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I can take the question.

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What I can tell you is that it
will -- the actions taken today

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are designed to ensure that our
ability to enforce sanctions

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against entities that are
not engaged in positive steps

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towards reform remain,
while allowing U.S.

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companies to do business
in Burma in ways that help

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acknowledge and reward the
progress that has been made.

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The Press:
And on another topic -- there's
a vote expected in the Senate in

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a couple weeks on the tax --
the President's tax proposal.

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Are you at all concerned
that some Democrats,

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perhaps who are in difficult
races from more conservative

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states are going to have trouble
supporting the President's plan

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and that he may not -- the
party may not pull together

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on this issue?

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Mr. Carney:
I'd say two things.

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One, you will hear from the
President in coming days what

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you heard yesterday, and that is
his argument for why this is an

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area where there is absolute
consensus in Washington,

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and that is the need to
extend middle-class tax cuts,

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tax cuts that benefit 98
percent of the taxpaying public.

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Since we agree on this,
we should act on it.

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And I think every Democrat
in the House and the Senate,

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and every Republican in the
House and the Senate agrees at

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least in principle on the idea
that we ought to extend those

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tax cuts.

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That's good for the
American people.

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It's good for the middle class.

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It's good for the
American economy.

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And you will continue to hear
from him in coming days as he

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makes that case.

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I made the point yesterday on
the plane, on Air Force One,

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that one lesson that I think
we have all learned in the last

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several months, maybe a year, is
that one way to produce movement

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in Congress on issues that have
broad support from the American

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people but face intransigence on
Capitol Hill is to take the case

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to the American people.

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And that's what the President
did with the payroll tax cut

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extension and unemployment
insurance extension.

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That's what he did with other
measures like this need to take

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action to ensure that student
loan rates didn't double.

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And what we have seen is that
Republican opposition to the

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President's position has,
at least in some cases,

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waned as the President
made that public case,

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because there is great
public support for the

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President's positions.

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I can't predict to you
how individuals will vote,

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but I know that Democrats to
a person support extending

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middle-class tax cuts.

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The Press:
You're not concerned, though,
that there might be fissures?

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Mr. Carney:
No. I think that what you'll see
is overwhelming Democratic support.

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What we've seen
today is overwhelming

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Republican opposition.

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What I hope is a change in
that dynamic that produces

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significant bipartisan support
for something that everyone says

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they agree on.

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It is -- you guys
are the analysts now,

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and the observers of the sort
of broader political scene.

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But it does seem to me a
difficult argument to make that

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98 percent of Americans should
not get a tax cut unless the

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wealthiest 2 percent get their
tax cut -- the wealthiest 2

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percent that has done quite well
at a time when the middle class

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has seen its incomes
stagnate or decline.

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How you make that
argument -- I mean,

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I know they'll find some
rhetorical devices to make it,

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but it doesn't seem
all that tenable.

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And one of the -- in the past,
the refusal to move forward on

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just extending the middle-class
tax cuts is borne out of,

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I think, a recognition that
there is not broad public

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support for the idea that
the wealthiest Americans,

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those who make
more than $250,

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000 a year -- which is just 2
percent -- need a tax cut at a

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time when we can't afford it.

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The middle class, I think
everyone recognizes,

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suffered significantly
during the recession,

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and even prior to the
recession was under a

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great deal of pressure.

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And we all agree that those
tax cuts should be extended

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for middle-class Americans.

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So let's get it done.

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Wendell.

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The Press:
Jay, the Pentagon acknowledged
yesterday that it had not made

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contingency plans for the $500
billion in spending cuts it

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would have to make if Congress
and the White House don't come

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up with a deficit-cutting
agreement by the end of

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the year.

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Your critics say that this
is irresponsible on the part

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of the administration.

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What's your reaction?

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Mr. Carney:
I can tell you that while OMB
has not yet engaged agencies

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in planning, our staff is
conducting the analysis that

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is necessary to move forward,
should that be required.

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And as we have made
clear in the past,

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should it get to the point where
it appears that Congress will

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not do its job and the
sequester may take effect,

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OMB, the Defense Department
and the entire administration

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will be prepared.

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That said, as I've
said in the past,

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when bipartisan majorities voted
for the Budget Control Act and

477
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the President
signed it into law,

478
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everyone agreed that the
sequester would be, by design,

479
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harmful both to defense
and non-defense programs.

480
00:27:40,233 --> 00:27:41,233
That was the purpose.

481
00:27:41,233 --> 00:27:44,233
It was designed to be onerous
and objectionable and something

482
00:27:44,233 --> 00:27:48,734
that nobody wanted, so it would
force action by Congress to come

483
00:27:48,734 --> 00:27:53,433
up with and to make the hard
choices to create a balanced

484
00:27:53,433 --> 00:27:57,033
approach to further
deficit reduction.

485
00:27:57,033 --> 00:28:00,567
What's needed is action to avoid
the sequester by Congress by

486
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passing balanced deficit
reduction along the lines that

487
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:04,400
the President has put forward.

488
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,500
But not just the President --
every bipartisan commission

489
00:28:08,500 --> 00:28:11,567
that's looked at it has
said that we need a balanced

490
00:28:11,567 --> 00:28:12,567
approach.

491
00:28:12,567 --> 00:28:15,433
The so-called Gang of Six that
was bipartisan said we need a

492
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balanced approach.

493
00:28:17,934 --> 00:28:21,133
Thus far, the obstacle to
passing legislation that

494
00:28:21,133 --> 00:28:26,100
embodies that balanced approach
has been Republicans in

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00:28:26,100 --> 00:28:35,966
Congress, who I guess object
on principle to the notion that

496
00:28:35,967 --> 00:28:41,800
everybody should do their fair
share when it comes to getting

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our medium- and long-term
deficits and debt under control.

498
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:52,133
And that's, again, speaking of
I think untenable positions,

499
00:28:52,133 --> 00:28:53,467
pretty untenable.

500
00:28:53,467 --> 00:28:56,300
Because the alternative we've
seen -- we see it in the budget

501
00:28:56,300 --> 00:28:57,734
proposals that
have come forward.

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00:28:57,734 --> 00:29:02,000
The alternative to doing it in
a way that's balanced is to put

503
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:09,633
all the burden on the middle
class, the working poor,

504
00:29:09,633 --> 00:29:15,100
on seniors, on families with
children with disabilities.

505
00:29:15,100 --> 00:29:17,966
I mean, if you take one
approach that says, okay,

506
00:29:17,967 --> 00:29:21,133
we're not doing revenue,
that's off the table,

507
00:29:21,133 --> 00:29:22,900
we're not doing defense
cuts -- in fact,

508
00:29:22,900 --> 00:29:26,700
we're going to raise defense
spending -- what's left?

509
00:29:26,700 --> 00:29:29,400
And who carries the burden?

510
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:30,800
The only approach
that's appropriate,

511
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,834
the one that Simpson-Bowles
Commission endorsed,

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00:29:33,834 --> 00:29:36,567
the one that the Rivlin-Domenici
Commission endorsed,

513
00:29:36,567 --> 00:29:37,900
the one that the
Gang of Six endorsed,

514
00:29:37,900 --> 00:29:40,734
the one that the President has
endorsed is one that takes all

515
00:29:40,734 --> 00:29:43,600
three legs of the stool and says
that we need a balanced approach

516
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,166
that includes revenues, includes
reforms to our entitlement

517
00:29:47,166 --> 00:29:51,833
programs that make them stronger
and more financially stable,

518
00:29:51,834 --> 00:29:55,767
and one that includes
substantial non-defense,

519
00:29:55,767 --> 00:29:58,000
discretionary spending cuts,
as this President has signed

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00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,266
into law.

521
00:29:59,266 --> 00:30:02,367
The Press:
Why isn't this President
leading that effort?

522
00:30:02,367 --> 00:30:04,934
Mr. Carney:
He has led that effort.

523
00:30:04,934 --> 00:30:11,767
He has a very detailed proposal
before Congress that embodies

524
00:30:11,767 --> 00:30:14,800
the principles in detail
that I just described.

525
00:30:17,900 --> 00:30:21,734
Again, if it is -- if there is
a broad consensus on what path

526
00:30:21,734 --> 00:30:25,166
needs to be taken, a broad,
bipartisan consensus out in the

527
00:30:25,166 --> 00:30:28,734
real world on the path
that needs to be taken,

528
00:30:28,734 --> 00:30:31,367
and then the one contingent
here in Washington says, no,

529
00:30:31,367 --> 00:30:37,000
I won't accept a deficit
reduction deal that includes $10

530
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,767
in spending cuts for every
dollar in revenue -- which is

531
00:30:39,767 --> 00:30:45,700
just so far outside of the
mainstream it's rather amazing

532
00:30:45,700 --> 00:30:47,567
-- I think the
obstacle is clear,

533
00:30:47,567 --> 00:30:49,667
and I think it's incumbent upon
all of us to say, look, wait.

534
00:30:49,667 --> 00:30:54,000
Step back and say, what
is the problem here?

535
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,400
What's preventing progress?

536
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,433
What has created this stalemate?

537
00:31:00,834 --> 00:31:10,567
And it is a refusal to accept
the simple premise that everyone

538
00:31:10,567 --> 00:31:17,467
needs to do their fair share,
that achieving the kind of

539
00:31:17,467 --> 00:31:19,800
deficit reduction that's
necessary to get our fiscal

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00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:26,667
house in order requires
that the burden be shared,

541
00:31:26,667 --> 00:31:33,734
and that includes a requirement
that the wealthiest among us do

542
00:31:33,734 --> 00:31:38,567
not enjoy an extension of tax
cuts and do not get a trillion

543
00:31:38,567 --> 00:31:44,233
dollars of additional tax cuts
when we can't afford them.

544
00:31:44,233 --> 00:31:47,966
The Press:
Do you still believe that this
issue will be resolved in time

545
00:31:47,967 --> 00:31:49,667
to avoid the sequester?

546
00:31:49,667 --> 00:31:51,966
Would you accept -- I think
Senator Graham is working on

547
00:31:51,967 --> 00:31:54,200
a one-year fix for this.

548
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,967
Would you accept
something like that?

549
00:31:56,967 --> 00:32:01,467
Mr. Carney:
I think that -- there
is certainly time.

550
00:32:01,467 --> 00:32:02,500
There's no question
there's time.

551
00:32:02,500 --> 00:32:03,567
Because as I've
said in the past,

552
00:32:03,567 --> 00:32:05,633
all the work that's
necessary has been done.

553
00:32:05,633 --> 00:32:11,200
We know there is no magic here
left in terms of how you make

554
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,533
the necessary hard decisions
to get the kind of deficit

555
00:32:14,533 --> 00:32:16,966
reduction necessary.

556
00:32:16,967 --> 00:32:21,533
What is required here is
a little will and spine.

557
00:32:21,533 --> 00:32:27,399
And that means saying, I
know I signed a pledge,

558
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,433
but the right thing to do for
the broader American economy and

559
00:32:31,433 --> 00:32:33,800
the American middle class is to
take the balanced approach that

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00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,800
everyone supports.

561
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,400
And I think that now is the time
to come together around that

562
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,667
balanced approach and not search
for ways to get out of the

563
00:32:43,667 --> 00:32:46,867
commitment that Congress made
back in August in a bipartisan

564
00:32:46,867 --> 00:32:52,600
way, which is to hold their own
feet to the fire so that tough

565
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,265
decisions were made and
balanced deficit reduction

566
00:32:56,266 --> 00:32:58,000
was put into place.

567
00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:58,967
Mike.

568
00:32:58,967 --> 00:32:59,867
The Press:
A couple things.

569
00:32:59,867 --> 00:33:01,934
First, following on Mr.
Babbington's earlier

570
00:33:01,934 --> 00:33:05,100
question about the NAACP,
was the President invited?

571
00:33:05,100 --> 00:33:07,233
And this is purely a scheduling
matter that keeps him from

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00:33:07,233 --> 00:33:08,934
attending this year?

573
00:33:08,934 --> 00:33:12,332
Mr. Carney:
I would refer -- again, I
think this is a campaign issue.

574
00:33:12,333 --> 00:33:15,066
In terms of the scheduling of
it, I don't know the answer --

575
00:33:15,066 --> 00:33:16,400
The Press:
Well, there wasn't
a campaign in 2009.

576
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:17,867
He spoke in 2009 and it
wasn't a campaign issue.

577
00:33:17,867 --> 00:33:19,066
Mr. Carney:
It wasn't a campaign
issue there.

578
00:33:19,066 --> 00:33:20,400
I think this is -- I mean, I
think the nominee for the other

579
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:21,800
party spoke, as
somebody just mentioned.

580
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:22,899
I don't know.

581
00:33:22,900 --> 00:33:24,200
I think you have to
ask the campaign.

582
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,567
I don't know about invitations
and schedules when it relates

583
00:33:28,567 --> 00:33:30,433
to the campaign in this case.

584
00:33:30,433 --> 00:33:31,100
The Press:
All right.

585
00:33:31,100 --> 00:33:33,934
So following up on Wendell,
there is this economic calamity

586
00:33:33,934 --> 00:33:35,834
coming -- the fiscal
cliff, the sequesters,

587
00:33:35,834 --> 00:33:38,900
the expiration of the tax
cuts, a few other things.

588
00:33:38,900 --> 00:33:41,834
Both sides continue to
talk past each other.

589
00:33:41,834 --> 00:33:44,300
The House vote today that
you've already decried;

590
00:33:44,300 --> 00:33:47,867
Senator Reid blocked bringing up
the President's tax cut proposal

591
00:33:47,867 --> 00:33:49,667
in the Senate -- you can
call it gamesmanship,

592
00:33:49,667 --> 00:33:52,800
political posturing, whatever
-- both sides talking past each

593
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,200
other, but the President
is speaking only to

594
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:55,200
Democrats today.

595
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,400
Why not get Republicans
up here and get the ball

596
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:58,133
rolling on this?

597
00:33:58,133 --> 00:33:59,133
Mr. Carney:
Well, I'd answer that the
way I've answered it before,

598
00:33:59,133 --> 00:34:01,900
which is that if all of us
have learned something I think

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00:34:01,900 --> 00:34:05,667
valuable in the last several
months or close to a year it's

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00:34:05,667 --> 00:34:11,833
that progress has been made on
achieving bipartisan compromises

601
00:34:11,833 --> 00:34:16,033
in Congress when the President
has taken an issue to the public

602
00:34:16,033 --> 00:34:19,132
and made his case to
the American people.

603
00:34:19,132 --> 00:34:20,899
That was true with the
payroll tax cut extension;

604
00:34:20,900 --> 00:34:23,967
it was true with the enactment
of legislation to prevent

605
00:34:23,967 --> 00:34:26,400
student loans from doubling
-- student loan rates from

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00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:31,033
doubling; it was true with the
so-called -- the JOBS Act and

607
00:34:31,033 --> 00:34:32,033
the STOCK Act.

608
00:34:32,033 --> 00:34:38,333
I mean, these are -- I think
it's pretty apparent that the

609
00:34:38,333 --> 00:34:43,567
opposition to these mainstream,
broadly supported proposals

610
00:34:46,166 --> 00:34:51,400
begins to dissipate when there
is public consensus and public

611
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:52,800
awareness of what the
right thing to do is.

612
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:53,800
So that's the --

613
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,700
The Press:
-- a year and a half ago when
the President extended all the

614
00:34:55,699 --> 00:34:58,200
tax cuts, including the
ones for the most wealthy.

615
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,100
So what's different?

616
00:35:00,100 --> 00:35:02,366
The President had the
bully pulpit then.

617
00:35:02,367 --> 00:35:05,200
Mr. Carney:
Well, first of all, there
are significant differences.

618
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,600
And I would remind you that
there was a lot to that package,

619
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,266
not just the extension of
the so-called Bush tax cuts.

620
00:35:12,266 --> 00:35:16,367
Secondly, we have made,
the President has made

621
00:35:16,367 --> 00:35:17,467
his position clear.

622
00:35:17,467 --> 00:35:22,233
Ninety-eight percent of the
American people need to have

623
00:35:22,233 --> 00:35:24,700
and should get, and he
supports them getting,

624
00:35:24,700 --> 00:35:26,332
an extension of tax cuts.

625
00:35:26,333 --> 00:35:30,266
And the tax cuts here include
not just the Bush tax cuts,

626
00:35:30,266 --> 00:35:34,500
but the extension of tax cuts
that he put into law in 2009

627
00:35:34,500 --> 00:35:39,066
that benefit the middle class
and were not included in the

628
00:35:39,066 --> 00:35:45,066
gimmick vote -- or proposal
today in the Senate, by the way.

629
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,200
So the President believes
that this is the way,

630
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:54,966
and I think evidence suggests
that this is the best way to try

631
00:35:54,967 --> 00:35:57,934
to get something done here that
will help the American economy.

632
00:35:57,934 --> 00:36:01,433
And others have asked me
-- this is just politics,

633
00:36:01,433 --> 00:36:04,600
you're trying to
create a contrast.

634
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,467
And my answer to that, and I
know the President's answer is

635
00:36:07,467 --> 00:36:10,133
if that's what you believe, you
think this is just politics that

636
00:36:10,133 --> 00:36:16,366
we want to take advantage of,
deprive us of that opportunity

637
00:36:16,367 --> 00:36:19,333
by passing the legislation
that we all support.

638
00:36:19,333 --> 00:36:20,333
Take it away.

639
00:36:20,333 --> 00:36:22,400
Take this away from the
President and give it to

640
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:23,767
the American people.

641
00:36:23,767 --> 00:36:24,799
Give them a tax cut.

642
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:25,767
The Press:
I just have one more
question, and it's a

643
00:36:25,767 --> 00:36:27,033
completely unrelated topic.

644
00:36:27,033 --> 00:36:29,299
Some noted public officials
from Illinois -- Dick Durbin,

645
00:36:29,300 --> 00:36:32,567
Luis Gutierrez, the minority
whip in the House -- today all

646
00:36:32,567 --> 00:36:35,233
say that Congressman Jackson
needs to divulge more

647
00:36:35,233 --> 00:36:39,800
information about what's keeping
him from tending to his duties

648
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:40,433
in Congress.

649
00:36:40,433 --> 00:36:41,667
What does the President think?

650
00:36:41,667 --> 00:36:43,033
Mr. Carney:
I have no idea.

651
00:36:43,033 --> 00:36:44,700
I haven't spoken
to him about it,

652
00:36:44,700 --> 00:36:47,066
and have not myself
given a thought to it.

653
00:36:47,066 --> 00:36:48,366
So I don't know.

654
00:36:48,367 --> 00:36:50,800
Yes.

655
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,467
And then Kevin.

656
00:36:52,467 --> 00:36:54,467
The Press:
Will the President and
congressional Democrats leave

657
00:36:54,467 --> 00:36:57,066
this meeting today with a
timeline for a vote on the

658
00:36:57,066 --> 00:36:58,734
middle-class tax cut?

659
00:36:58,734 --> 00:37:00,700
Mr. Carney:
Well, the President is meeting
with congressional Democrats,

660
00:37:00,700 --> 00:37:04,399
and they will discuss a
broad range of issues,

661
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,867
including the need to extend
middle-class tax cuts,

662
00:37:07,867 --> 00:37:10,400
but the need to take action
to help small businesses;

663
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,700
the need to pass elements of the
American Jobs Act that have not

664
00:37:13,700 --> 00:37:16,667
been passed that would put
up to a million Americans

665
00:37:16,667 --> 00:37:17,967
back to work.

666
00:37:17,967 --> 00:37:20,867
So it will be a discussion
of the broader agenda,

667
00:37:20,867 --> 00:37:22,166
not just this issue.

668
00:37:22,166 --> 00:37:25,800
I am confident, just citing what
Senator Reid said the other day,

669
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,066
that the Senate will have an
opportunity to vote on the

670
00:37:29,066 --> 00:37:32,399
proposals that the President has
made to extend middle-class tax

671
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,400
cuts to 98 percent of
the American people.

672
00:37:36,367 --> 00:37:39,100
But I don't have any
announcements to make from here

673
00:37:39,100 --> 00:37:41,066
in terms of Senate schedule.

674
00:37:41,066 --> 00:37:42,466
I leave that to the
Majority Leader.

675
00:37:42,467 --> 00:37:44,600
The Press:
Does the President agree
with Senator Reid blocking

676
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,200
the vote today?

677
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,066
Mr. Carney:
Well, I think I did it
in sort of shorthand.

678
00:37:49,066 --> 00:37:51,899
The vote today -- first of all,
the Senate is considering a very

679
00:37:51,900 --> 00:37:55,567
important proposal that would
give a tax break to small

680
00:37:55,567 --> 00:38:01,633
businesses that hire new workers
and expand their payroll.

681
00:38:03,900 --> 00:38:05,333
If we care about
small businesses,

682
00:38:05,333 --> 00:38:08,400
as this President does, the
Senate should overwhelmingly

683
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:09,400
pass that.

684
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:10,700
It should gain
Republican support.

685
00:38:10,700 --> 00:38:15,366
It would be, I think, the 19th
small business tax cut that this

686
00:38:15,367 --> 00:38:18,734
President has signed into law
if it were to pass the Congress.

687
00:38:18,734 --> 00:38:25,834
On the issue of the -- I think
it was the Hatch proposal that

688
00:38:25,834 --> 00:38:28,834
was put forward -- it was
not the President's proposal.

689
00:38:28,834 --> 00:38:32,399
It did not include the other
middle-class tax cuts that were

690
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,533
part of the President's proposal
and, in fact, would result in,

691
00:38:35,533 --> 00:38:38,533
if passed, raising taxes on
25 million American families.

692
00:38:38,533 --> 00:38:40,533
So the President
doesn't support that.

693
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,700
If it looks like a
gimmick, it usually is,

694
00:38:45,700 --> 00:38:46,700
and that's a gimmick.

695
00:38:46,700 --> 00:38:49,165
And we know that, broadly,
the American people,

696
00:38:49,166 --> 00:38:52,233
Republicans and
Democrats in Congress,

697
00:38:52,233 --> 00:38:56,567
most folks even of no
political persuasion at all,

698
00:38:56,567 --> 00:38:58,100
support the idea that
we ought to extend these

699
00:38:58,100 --> 00:38:59,100
middle-class tax cuts.

700
00:38:59,100 --> 00:39:07,799
And the only thing holding it up
is the idea that 98 percent of

701
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,367
us -- 98 percent of the country
shouldn't have a tax cut unless

702
00:39:11,367 --> 00:39:14,600
the top 2 percent get a tax cut.

703
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,667
And the President's position
is we can't afford it for the

704
00:39:18,667 --> 00:39:19,667
top 2 percent.

705
00:39:19,667 --> 00:39:20,834
The middle class needs it.

706
00:39:20,834 --> 00:39:23,133
The economy needs it.

707
00:39:23,133 --> 00:39:29,133
But we cannot afford tax cuts --
extending tax cuts that over a

708
00:39:29,133 --> 00:39:33,232
decade would cost close
to a trillion dollars;

709
00:39:33,233 --> 00:39:36,467
tax cuts that contributed to
the massive deficit that the

710
00:39:36,467 --> 00:39:39,433
President inherited when he
took office in January 2009.

711
00:39:39,433 --> 00:39:42,500
The Press:
And there's no compromise there
between $250,000 and, say,

712
00:39:42,500 --> 00:39:45,066
$500,000 and $750,000?

713
00:39:45,066 --> 00:39:45,734
He would not sign --

714
00:39:45,734 --> 00:39:49,799
Mr. Carney:
I think this is something of a
Bloomberg specialty in terms of

715
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,633
like -- (laughter) -- the
proposals that I'm aware

716
00:39:52,633 --> 00:39:54,866
of are $250,000, which is
the President's position

717
00:39:54,867 --> 00:39:57,100
in extending the
high-end tax cuts.

718
00:39:57,100 --> 00:39:59,700
The President would not support,
would not sign into law,

719
00:39:59,700 --> 00:40:04,100
would veto legislation that
extended the high-end tax cuts.

720
00:40:04,100 --> 00:40:06,500
He will sign tomorrow
an extension of the

721
00:40:06,500 --> 00:40:07,867
middle-class tax cuts.

722
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,834
The Press:
Jay, in what way is Hugo
Chavez's government in

723
00:40:15,834 --> 00:40:19,834
Venezuela not a serious
security threat to the U.S.?

724
00:40:19,834 --> 00:40:21,567
Mr. Carney:
You know what, I'm going to
have to refer you to the State

725
00:40:21,567 --> 00:40:22,166
Department on that.

726
00:40:22,166 --> 00:40:23,433
I saw that story
before I came out,

727
00:40:23,433 --> 00:40:25,867
but I haven't --
I didn't read it,

728
00:40:25,867 --> 00:40:29,734
so I don't know the
underlying aspect of it.

729
00:40:29,734 --> 00:40:30,700
Kevin.

730
00:40:30,700 --> 00:40:31,734
The Press:
Thanks, Jay.

731
00:40:31,734 --> 00:40:34,799
On outsourcing -- in 2008,
candidate Obama promised to

732
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,600
end tax breaks to companies
that ship jobs overseas.

733
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,567
We heard it yesterday
in Cedar Rapids.

734
00:40:39,567 --> 00:40:41,233
We just touched on it again.

735
00:40:41,233 --> 00:40:43,800
Why hasn't that happened
in three and a half years?

736
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,033
Mr. Carney:
Because unfortunately, there
is a constituency in Congress

737
00:40:46,033 --> 00:40:50,333
that supports tax breaks
for companies that ship

738
00:40:50,333 --> 00:40:51,033
jobs overseas.

739
00:40:51,033 --> 00:40:58,533
The President believes, again,
that we need to have a tax code

740
00:40:58,533 --> 00:41:02,066
that creates incentives for
companies to do the opposite,

741
00:41:02,066 --> 00:41:06,600
that bring jobs home,
that create jobs at home.

742
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,567
And we certainly shouldn't
have a tax code that provides

743
00:41:09,567 --> 00:41:11,500
incentives to companies
to move jobs overseas,

744
00:41:11,500 --> 00:41:15,166
and that's very much an
initiative that he supports.

745
00:41:15,166 --> 00:41:19,500
The fact that it's not easily
achieved I will acknowledge.

746
00:41:19,500 --> 00:41:21,967
But it is the right thing to do,
and it is broadly supported by

747
00:41:21,967 --> 00:41:22,967
the American people.

748
00:41:22,967 --> 00:41:29,567
It is opposed, unfortunately,
by the Republicans in Congress,

749
00:41:29,567 --> 00:41:35,600
although I think that -- I'm a
firm believer in the possibility

750
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,633
of compromise in the future.

751
00:41:38,633 --> 00:41:45,299
And I think that one of the
things that's unique about our

752
00:41:45,300 --> 00:41:47,033
economic situation
now is, as you know,

753
00:41:47,033 --> 00:41:51,533
we've seen a recovery in
manufacturing jobs in this

754
00:41:51,533 --> 00:41:55,266
country that -- I just looked at
some data recently that showed

755
00:41:55,266 --> 00:42:01,433
that in the recovery from
the recession in 2001, 2002,

756
00:42:01,433 --> 00:42:02,934
manufacturing
continued to lose jobs.

757
00:42:02,934 --> 00:42:07,467
But we have a situation
where we have had a return of

758
00:42:07,467 --> 00:42:08,734
manufacturing jobs
in this country,

759
00:42:08,734 --> 00:42:11,299
and we need to do everything
we can to keep that going.

760
00:42:11,300 --> 00:42:15,166
One of the reasons why we have
that happening is because of the

761
00:42:15,166 --> 00:42:18,266
actions the President took to
save the automobile industry in

762
00:42:18,266 --> 00:42:19,266
the United States.

763
00:42:19,266 --> 00:42:21,200
But there are numerous other
things that the President and

764
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,700
Congress have done to help
encourage investments in

765
00:42:23,700 --> 00:42:25,866
manufacturing that go back to
the question that I think Dan

766
00:42:25,867 --> 00:42:28,200
asked about the Recovery Act.

767
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:32,734
We need to do everything we can
to encourage job creation here

768
00:42:32,734 --> 00:42:34,066
in the United States.

769
00:42:34,066 --> 00:42:37,332
The Press:
But given the importance of
these -- ending these breaks

770
00:42:37,333 --> 00:42:39,266
that the President has been
really putting the spotlight

771
00:42:39,266 --> 00:42:41,367
on lately -- you just
said a few minutes ago,

772
00:42:41,367 --> 00:42:44,834
Republican opposition waned
when he made the case on student

773
00:42:44,834 --> 00:42:46,966
loans, on payroll taxes.

774
00:42:46,967 --> 00:42:50,367
Did he wait too long on
this issue that was such

775
00:42:50,367 --> 00:42:51,633
a key part --

776
00:42:51,633 --> 00:42:53,100
Mr. Carney:
He has always
supported this issue,

777
00:42:53,100 --> 00:42:59,400
and it would be a wonderful
thing if you could get

778
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:00,600
everything that
needs to be done,

779
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,333
done in your first
month or year.

780
00:43:03,333 --> 00:43:07,467
This needs to get done, and
that's why you're hearing him

781
00:43:07,467 --> 00:43:09,800
argue for it now.

782
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,266
And he'll continue
to make the case,

783
00:43:11,266 --> 00:43:13,433
and it's an important case.

784
00:43:13,433 --> 00:43:16,333
I mean, at the very least, we
shouldn't be giving tax breaks

785
00:43:16,333 --> 00:43:20,567
to companies to
take jobs overseas.

786
00:43:20,567 --> 00:43:23,800
And certainly the next step is
to make sure that we're creating

787
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,700
incentives for companies
to bring jobs home.

788
00:43:26,700 --> 00:43:31,767
I think that's a principle
that enjoys broad support.

789
00:43:31,767 --> 00:43:32,567
Jon-Christopher.

790
00:43:32,567 --> 00:43:35,233
The Press:
Sky News is reporting Syrian
opposition sources say the

791
00:43:35,233 --> 00:43:37,800
country's ambassador
to Iraq had defected,

792
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,300
becoming the latest
Assad defector.

793
00:43:40,300 --> 00:43:40,934
Any comment?

794
00:43:40,934 --> 00:43:42,600
Mr. Carney:
I got that question earlier
-- I can't confirm it.

795
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:48,232
What I can say is that we have
seen an increasing number of

796
00:43:48,233 --> 00:43:52,500
defections, including a recent
defection from President Assad's

797
00:43:52,500 --> 00:43:53,500
inner circle.

798
00:43:53,500 --> 00:43:57,767
And I think that just
indicates, again,

799
00:43:57,767 --> 00:44:02,700
the deterioration of Assad's
situation in that country,

800
00:44:02,700 --> 00:44:06,366
his lack of support, and the
recognition around him -- both

801
00:44:06,367 --> 00:44:13,000
in the government and the
military -- that he is not going

802
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:14,333
to be part of Syria's future.

803
00:44:14,333 --> 00:44:18,967
And if they love Syria and they
care about the Syrian people,

804
00:44:18,967 --> 00:44:21,433
the right choice, the
right decision is to

805
00:44:21,433 --> 00:44:23,100
abandon the regime.

806
00:44:23,100 --> 00:44:26,232
But on that specific report I
have not received confirmation.

807
00:44:30,900 --> 00:44:32,667
The Press:
My McClatchy colleague,
Marisa Taylor,

808
00:44:32,667 --> 00:44:39,600
yesterday published several
articles that revealed

809
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:45,266
startlingly aggressive use of
polygraph tests by the National

810
00:44:45,266 --> 00:44:53,133
Reconnaissance Office of job
applicants and employees to try

811
00:44:53,133 --> 00:44:55,734
to reveal personal information
about these people,

812
00:44:55,734 --> 00:45:01,433
even going so far as to award
bonuses to the polygraphers who

813
00:45:01,433 --> 00:45:04,367
have come up with the
most intimate details.

814
00:45:04,367 --> 00:45:08,000
Is there any concern by you
or the President or other

815
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,700
administration
officials about this?

816
00:45:09,700 --> 00:45:13,033
Mr. Carney:
I confess that, although I have
heard that those stories were

817
00:45:13,033 --> 00:45:15,366
published, I have not read
them, so I don't have a

818
00:45:15,367 --> 00:45:16,367
detailed response.

819
00:45:16,367 --> 00:45:22,033
I do believe that the NRO
has responded on the record,

820
00:45:22,033 --> 00:45:24,033
and I would point you
to those statements.

821
00:45:24,033 --> 00:45:25,667
But I don't have
more for you on it,

822
00:45:25,667 --> 00:45:27,467
and I have not discussed
it with the President.

823
00:45:27,467 --> 00:45:29,467
Donovan -- sorry, I just
don't have anything more

824
00:45:29,467 --> 00:45:30,533
for you on it.

825
00:45:30,533 --> 00:45:31,366
The Press:
Thanks, Jay.

826
00:45:31,367 --> 00:45:33,567
Not to go back to
another question --

827
00:45:33,567 --> 00:45:34,400
Mr. Carney:
No, that's fine.

828
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,000
The Press:
-- you said the
"outsourcer-in-chief" claims by

829
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,533
the RNC are part of the game of
"I know you are, but what am I?"

830
00:45:40,533 --> 00:45:44,633
But can you -- so can
you say that, yes,

831
00:45:44,633 --> 00:45:48,165
stimulus dollars did go
overseas, or they did not?

832
00:45:48,166 --> 00:45:50,967
Mr. Carney:
Look, I think -- I'm
happy to provide you

833
00:45:50,967 --> 00:45:52,033
all the background on this.

834
00:45:52,033 --> 00:45:54,366
I think that there has been
some very good reporting by your

835
00:45:54,367 --> 00:45:59,767
colleagues that demonstrate that
-- and by -- from the companies

836
00:45:59,767 --> 00:46:02,433
themselves that have
been cited here,

837
00:46:02,433 --> 00:46:07,333
that demonstrate that Recovery
Act dollars helped create jobs

838
00:46:07,333 --> 00:46:09,967
for Americans here
in the United States.

839
00:46:09,967 --> 00:46:12,567
And when you have foreign
companies that are creating

840
00:46:12,567 --> 00:46:14,300
operations here in
the United States,

841
00:46:14,300 --> 00:46:18,567
the fact that in one case some
South Koreans were also part of

842
00:46:18,567 --> 00:46:23,800
that, the broader truth
of it is, is that many,

843
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,100
many jobs for Americans
were created here,

844
00:46:26,100 --> 00:46:31,133
and facilities were built here
that will continue to create

845
00:46:31,133 --> 00:46:36,767
jobs and give economic benefit
here in the United States.

846
00:46:36,767 --> 00:46:38,600
That was the idea
behind the Recovery Act.

847
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,767
I mean, I think that the idea
that investments that helped

848
00:46:41,767 --> 00:46:44,799
bring jobs here to the United
States took place is something

849
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,400
that is a very positive thing.

850
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:50,600
And again, broadly speaking,
the Recovery Act is widely

851
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,232
recognized, even by
many of its detractors,

852
00:46:53,233 --> 00:46:56,533
to have saved or created
over 3 million jobs.

853
00:46:56,533 --> 00:46:59,000
The Press:
So these accusations that some
of the money went to pay for

854
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:00,066
foreign workers --

855
00:47:00,066 --> 00:47:01,133
Mr. Carney:
I think they have
been uncovered.

856
00:47:01,133 --> 00:47:03,734
I would simply --
because some people,

857
00:47:03,734 --> 00:47:06,767
for reasons I don't understand,
might discount what I say,

858
00:47:06,767 --> 00:47:10,433
I would point you to the
reporting of your colleagues

859
00:47:10,433 --> 00:47:15,500
that uncovered those charges and
revealed them for what they are,

860
00:47:15,500 --> 00:47:16,633
which is specious.

861
00:47:16,633 --> 00:47:17,600
Yes, Scott.

862
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,433
The Press:
But, Jay, doesn't that sort of
undermine the whole outsourcing

863
00:47:19,433 --> 00:47:22,533
argument, though -- the notion
that if money invested overseas

864
00:47:22,533 --> 00:47:25,933
also creates jobs here, isn't
that also true for the kinds of

865
00:47:25,934 --> 00:47:27,667
investments that Bain made?

866
00:47:27,667 --> 00:47:30,066
Mr. Carney:
If you want to get into
campaign-specific questions,

867
00:47:30,066 --> 00:47:32,533
I can refer you to the campaign.

868
00:47:32,533 --> 00:47:34,700
I can tell you what -- I can
talk about the Recovery Act at

869
00:47:34,700 --> 00:47:37,232
length, having spent my first
two years working for the Vice

870
00:47:37,233 --> 00:47:39,834
President as he oversaw
the enactment of it.

871
00:47:39,834 --> 00:47:47,533
The point of distinction here is
that those investments created

872
00:47:47,533 --> 00:47:48,533
jobs here.

873
00:47:48,533 --> 00:47:49,533
They didn't create
jobs overseas,

874
00:47:49,533 --> 00:47:52,400
they created jobs here
in the United States

875
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,767
and for American workers.

876
00:47:54,767 --> 00:47:56,299
And that was the purpose
of the Recovery Act,

877
00:47:56,300 --> 00:47:58,633
and it fulfilled that purpose.

878
00:47:58,633 --> 00:48:02,633
But for the campaign stuff
I'd refer you to the campaign.

879
00:48:02,633 --> 00:48:03,667
The Press:
Thank you, Jay.

880
00:48:03,667 --> 00:48:05,767
Mr. Carney:
All right. Thanks, guys.

881
00:48:05,767 --> 00:48:06,567
I appreciate it.