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1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,000 Mr. Earnest: Good afternoon, everybody. 2 00:00:02,001 --> 00:00:04,501 I apologize for keeping you waiting, but I assume 3 00:00:04,504 --> 00:00:06,504 that you enjoyed the music that was playing 4 00:00:06,506 --> 00:00:07,476 in my absence. 5 00:00:07,474 --> 00:00:10,044 So I'm late, but at least I arranged for some little 6 00:00:10,043 --> 00:00:12,983 entertainment before we get started. 7 00:00:12,979 --> 00:00:15,449 TGIF. 8 00:00:15,448 --> 00:00:16,118 Let's get this going. 9 00:00:16,116 --> 00:00:17,016 Josh, do you want to start? 10 00:00:17,016 --> 00:00:17,386 The Press: Sure. 11 00:00:17,384 --> 00:00:18,084 Thanks, Josh. 12 00:00:18,084 --> 00:00:19,854 Let's start with this Saudi legislation. 13 00:00:19,853 --> 00:00:22,193 I'm disappointed that you didn't erect like a 14 00:00:22,188 --> 00:00:25,258 countdown clock, cable news-style, for us to sort 15 00:00:25,258 --> 00:00:27,098 of all build up the anticipation. 16 00:00:27,093 --> 00:00:30,093 But I know there are some folks that work in the 17 00:00:30,096 --> 00:00:33,036 legislative office that are adept at counting votes. 18 00:00:33,032 --> 00:00:36,132 Do you have the sense that at this point, given the 19 00:00:36,136 --> 00:00:38,706 work that you've done to try and persuade lawmakers 20 00:00:38,705 --> 00:00:42,675 to reconsider, that you have the votes to avert an 21 00:00:42,675 --> 00:00:46,175 override of the President's veto? 22 00:00:46,179 --> 00:00:48,479 Mr. Earnest: Well, Josh, we certainly are counting 23 00:00:48,481 --> 00:00:50,481 votes and having a number of conversations with 24 00:00:50,483 --> 00:00:53,123 members of Congress in both parties, in both 25 00:00:53,119 --> 00:00:55,989 houses of Congress. 26 00:00:55,989 --> 00:00:58,289 One of the particular challenges of counting 27 00:00:58,291 --> 00:01:03,901 votes in this instance is the frequency with which 28 00:01:03,897 --> 00:01:08,297 we hear private concerns expressed that don't 29 00:01:08,301 --> 00:01:11,971 match the public votes that are cast. 30 00:01:11,971 --> 00:01:16,811 So I don't have a solid vote count to share, but I 31 00:01:16,810 --> 00:01:19,250 can confirm for you that we continue to make a 32 00:01:19,245 --> 00:01:21,885 forceful case to members of Congress that 33 00:01:21,881 --> 00:01:25,381 overriding the President's veto means that this 34 00:01:25,385 --> 00:01:28,385 country will start pursuing a less forceful 35 00:01:28,388 --> 00:01:33,598 approach in dealing with state sponsors of 36 00:01:33,593 --> 00:01:39,803 terrorism, and it potentially opens up U.S. 37 00:01:39,799 --> 00:01:41,799 servicemembers and diplomats and even 38 00:01:41,801 --> 00:01:45,871 companies to spurious lawsuits in kangaroo 39 00:01:45,872 --> 00:01:48,612 courts around the world. 40 00:01:48,608 --> 00:01:50,678 That's the crux of our concern. 41 00:01:50,677 --> 00:01:53,717 And I know you described it as the Saudi Arabia 42 00:01:53,713 --> 00:01:55,713 bill, and they certainly are interested in 43 00:01:55,715 --> 00:01:56,715 the outcome here. 44 00:01:56,716 --> 00:01:57,786 But from the administration 45 00:01:57,784 --> 00:02:01,884 perspective, our concern extends not just to the 46 00:02:01,888 --> 00:02:03,888 impact this would have on our relationship with 47 00:02:03,890 --> 00:02:06,330 Saudi Arabia, but rather the impact that this could 48 00:02:06,326 --> 00:02:08,326 have on the United States' relationship 49 00:02:08,328 --> 00:02:09,928 with countries around the world. 50 00:02:09,929 --> 00:02:10,899 The Press: You've been saying for a few days now 51 00:02:10,897 --> 00:02:13,337 that you're hearing one thing from lawmakers in 52 00:02:13,333 --> 00:02:15,403 public and something else in private. 53 00:02:15,401 --> 00:02:17,901 Are you suggesting that members of Congress, 54 00:02:17,904 --> 00:02:20,404 including a lot of Democrats, are being 55 00:02:20,406 --> 00:02:23,276 duplicitous by saying -- telling something to their 56 00:02:23,276 --> 00:02:25,976 constituents that's contradictory to what 57 00:02:25,979 --> 00:02:28,719 they acknowledge off the record? 58 00:02:28,715 --> 00:02:31,755 Mr. Earnest: I think what I'm acknowledging is, 59 00:02:31,751 --> 00:02:34,051 first of all, I don't think I'm the first person 60 00:02:34,053 --> 00:02:36,053 or even the first White House Press Secretary to 61 00:02:36,055 --> 00:02:38,025 stand up here and to say that we're getting 62 00:02:38,024 --> 00:02:40,164 conflicting signals from members of Congress based 63 00:02:40,159 --> 00:02:47,199 on comparing their private conversations and their 64 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,940 public expressions of a position on a 65 00:02:49,936 --> 00:02:51,806 particular issue. 66 00:02:51,804 --> 00:02:53,804 I'm also acknowledging that the politics of the 67 00:02:53,806 --> 00:02:55,646 situation are really tough. 68 00:02:55,642 --> 00:03:01,052 And if anything, I think that is an illustration of 69 00:03:01,047 --> 00:03:03,847 the principled nature of the President's position. 70 00:03:03,850 --> 00:03:05,850 The President is not blind to the politics 71 00:03:05,852 --> 00:03:07,022 of this situation. 72 00:03:07,020 --> 00:03:09,020 The President understands that the talking points 73 00:03:09,022 --> 00:03:11,622 that are being prepared for the proponents of this 74 00:03:11,624 --> 00:03:15,294 bill have more political upside than the talking 75 00:03:15,295 --> 00:03:18,165 points that I'm able to present you from here. 76 00:03:18,164 --> 00:03:21,434 But if we're focused on the substantive, long-term 77 00:03:21,434 --> 00:03:26,444 impact on our nation's national security, that's 78 00:03:26,439 --> 00:03:28,479 what's driving the position, that's what's 79 00:03:28,474 --> 00:03:30,844 driving the President's decision to veto this bill 80 00:03:30,843 --> 00:03:32,843 -- not because it's politically convenient, 81 00:03:32,845 --> 00:03:35,345 it's not; it's political inconvenient. 82 00:03:35,348 --> 00:03:37,448 But when it comes to the stakes and the impact that 83 00:03:37,450 --> 00:03:39,450 this could have on our national security, the 84 00:03:39,452 --> 00:03:41,452 President is willing to take some political heat 85 00:03:41,454 --> 00:03:43,724 in order to try to do the right thing and stand up 86 00:03:43,723 --> 00:03:48,333 for a principle that has an impact on the safety 87 00:03:48,328 --> 00:03:51,068 and security and risk that's faced by our 88 00:03:51,064 --> 00:03:53,064 servicemembers and diplomats around the world. 89 00:03:53,066 --> 00:03:54,066 The Press: I know he disagrees with this 90 00:03:54,067 --> 00:03:55,637 substantively from the points that you just 91 00:03:55,635 --> 00:03:58,475 described, but does the President attach any 92 00:03:58,471 --> 00:04:02,011 symbolic significance to the prospect of being 93 00:04:02,008 --> 00:04:04,108 rebuked by Congress in a way that he never has 94 00:04:04,110 --> 00:04:06,150 before, and to having another branch 95 00:04:06,145 --> 00:04:09,315 of government so decisively overrule his 96 00:04:09,315 --> 00:04:11,215 decision-making on a major issue? 97 00:04:11,217 --> 00:04:12,287 Mr. Earnest: No, the President is 98 00:04:12,285 --> 00:04:13,625 not particularly concerned about that. 99 00:04:13,620 --> 00:04:16,990 I mean, in part because this President has gone 100 00:04:16,990 --> 00:04:22,900 longer in his tenure in the White House than just 101 00:04:22,895 --> 00:04:26,065 about any other President in modern history before 102 00:04:26,065 --> 00:04:29,105 facing the prospect of having his veto overridden. 103 00:04:29,102 --> 00:04:30,432 That's not happened yet. 104 00:04:30,436 --> 00:04:32,436 We're going to continue to make our case. 105 00:04:32,438 --> 00:04:42,118 But the President is much more worried about the 106 00:04:42,115 --> 00:04:46,915 long-term impact of this legislation on our 107 00:04:46,919 --> 00:04:51,689 national security than he is about the impact that 108 00:04:51,691 --> 00:04:57,061 this could have in his daily interactions with 109 00:04:57,063 --> 00:04:58,233 members of Congress. 110 00:04:58,231 --> 00:05:00,071 The Press: And on one other topic. 111 00:05:00,066 --> 00:05:02,036 We learned today that Cheryl Mills and two 112 00:05:02,035 --> 00:05:04,875 others officials were granted immunities as part 113 00:05:04,871 --> 00:05:08,041 of the look the FBI was doing into the Clinton 114 00:05:08,041 --> 00:05:09,441 email situation. 115 00:05:09,442 --> 00:05:11,442 Given that this whole controversy is basically 116 00:05:11,444 --> 00:05:15,644 driven by the perception that the Clintons play by 117 00:05:15,648 --> 00:05:17,388 different rules than anyone else, does the 118 00:05:17,383 --> 00:05:20,923 White House think that it was appropriate for the 119 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,690 FBI to offer the immunity to those 120 00:05:24,691 --> 00:05:25,261 three individuals? 121 00:05:25,258 --> 00:05:27,628 Mr. Earnest: Josh, off the top of my head, I can't 122 00:05:27,627 --> 00:05:29,797 recall an instance in which I second-guessed the 123 00:05:29,796 --> 00:05:33,496 decision made by the FBI Director or an independent 124 00:05:33,499 --> 00:05:35,739 investigator at the FBI, and I'm not going 125 00:05:35,735 --> 00:05:36,935 to start today. 126 00:05:36,936 --> 00:05:40,006 The fact is, the reason that President Obama 127 00:05:40,006 --> 00:05:43,006 nominated Director Comey to lead the FBI a few 128 00:05:43,009 --> 00:05:49,319 years ago is based on his reputation and commitment 129 00:05:49,315 --> 00:05:52,885 to putting politics aside and focusing on his 130 00:05:52,885 --> 00:05:57,395 responsibilities as a public servant and as a 131 00:05:57,390 --> 00:05:59,930 senior law enforcement official in the United 132 00:05:59,926 --> 00:06:02,196 States government. 133 00:06:02,195 --> 00:06:04,795 It's presumably that same criteria that prompted 134 00:06:04,797 --> 00:06:07,967 just about every member of the Republican Senate 135 00:06:07,967 --> 00:06:12,007 Conference to support his nomination to this job, 136 00:06:12,004 --> 00:06:14,344 and to confirm him in this job. 137 00:06:14,340 --> 00:06:18,080 So the President has got a lot of confidence in the 138 00:06:18,077 --> 00:06:21,517 ability of senior officials at the FBI to 139 00:06:21,514 --> 00:06:24,114 make decisions based on their judgement, not 140 00:06:24,117 --> 00:06:25,117 on the politics. 141 00:06:25,118 --> 00:06:27,118 And that's what the President wants his 142 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:28,890 FBI Director to do. 143 00:06:28,888 --> 00:06:34,528 So I don't have any insight into this decision. 144 00:06:34,527 --> 00:06:37,067 For more insight into it, I'd refer you to the FBI. 145 00:06:37,063 --> 00:06:38,903 Ayesha. 146 00:06:38,898 --> 00:06:39,598 The Press: Thank you. 147 00:06:39,599 --> 00:06:43,239 Going back to the 9/11 bill, you say you're 148 00:06:43,236 --> 00:06:44,166 making your case. 149 00:06:44,170 --> 00:06:46,340 Has the President been making any calls to 150 00:06:46,339 --> 00:06:49,709 lawmakers on this, trying to prevent an override? 151 00:06:49,709 --> 00:06:51,709 Mr. Earnest: I don't have any specific 152 00:06:51,711 --> 00:06:53,711 presidential-level conversations to 153 00:06:53,713 --> 00:06:54,713 share with you. 154 00:06:54,714 --> 00:06:56,954 But there certainly have been a number of 155 00:06:56,949 --> 00:07:00,589 conversations at the staff level, here at the White 156 00:07:00,586 --> 00:07:04,126 House, with staff members and members on Capitol 157 00:07:04,123 --> 00:07:06,123 Hill, again, in both parties and in both 158 00:07:06,125 --> 00:07:07,265 houses of Congress. 159 00:07:07,260 --> 00:07:09,300 The Press: Secretary Clinton has come out today 160 00:07:09,295 --> 00:07:13,095 -- or her campaign has said that she should sign 161 00:07:13,099 --> 00:07:14,939 this legislation if she was elected. 162 00:07:14,934 --> 00:07:20,304 Does that complicate the efforts to persuade 163 00:07:20,306 --> 00:07:24,446 lawmakers to not override this veto? 164 00:07:24,443 --> 00:07:25,883 Mr. Earnest: No. 165 00:07:25,878 --> 00:07:29,148 I don't think anybody was particularly surprised by 166 00:07:29,148 --> 00:07:30,688 that announcement. 167 00:07:30,683 --> 00:07:36,153 The Press: Moving on to the continuing resolution 168 00:07:36,155 --> 00:07:39,325 and trying to fund the government, Democrats have 169 00:07:39,325 --> 00:07:43,595 opposed legislation from Republicans in the Senate 170 00:07:43,596 --> 00:07:45,666 because it wouldn't provide funding for 171 00:07:45,665 --> 00:07:46,595 Flint, Michigan. 172 00:07:46,599 --> 00:07:48,699 Now, I know that you're not going to negotiate 173 00:07:48,701 --> 00:07:50,801 this from the podium, but -- 174 00:07:50,803 --> 00:07:51,703 Mr. Earnest: As easy as that would be. 175 00:07:51,704 --> 00:07:52,474 (laughter) 176 00:07:52,471 --> 00:07:54,771 The Press: -- but I wanted to know, does the White 177 00:07:54,774 --> 00:07:56,414 House support that position? 178 00:07:56,409 --> 00:07:59,179 Should funding for the government, should it 179 00:07:59,178 --> 00:08:02,878 include funding for Flint? 180 00:08:02,882 --> 00:08:05,452 Mr. Earnest: Well, listen, the Republican Leader in 181 00:08:05,451 --> 00:08:10,161 the Senate put out a proposal yesterday, and 182 00:08:10,156 --> 00:08:13,126 there are some attractive elements of the proposal, 183 00:08:13,125 --> 00:08:15,095 the first of which is Congress has a basic 184 00:08:15,094 --> 00:08:17,994 responsibility to keep the United States government 185 00:08:17,997 --> 00:08:21,467 open for business, and that's what the bill that 186 00:08:21,467 --> 00:08:23,537 he put forward would do. 187 00:08:23,536 --> 00:08:25,536 The President is obviously pleased to see that, and 188 00:08:25,538 --> 00:08:28,578 that's certainly something -- the President would 189 00:08:28,574 --> 00:08:31,014 like to avoid a government shutdown. 190 00:08:31,010 --> 00:08:33,010 He believes that Congress needs to do its job, and 191 00:08:33,012 --> 00:08:34,882 this is one element of it. 192 00:08:34,881 --> 00:08:40,151 This proposal also includes funding to fight 193 00:08:40,152 --> 00:08:42,692 the Zika virus -- not as much money as we initially 194 00:08:42,688 --> 00:08:47,758 requested, but after seven months of waiting, it is a 195 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,530 welcome development that Republicans in Congress 196 00:08:50,529 --> 00:08:53,129 are finally moving forward on a bipartisan proposal 197 00:08:53,132 --> 00:08:55,702 to give our public health professionals the 198 00:08:55,701 --> 00:09:00,011 resources that they need to fight the Zika virus. 199 00:09:00,006 --> 00:09:09,416 We were, however, disappointed that Congress 200 00:09:09,415 --> 00:09:16,055 has not made a commitment to addressing the 201 00:09:16,055 --> 00:09:19,125 situation in Flint. 202 00:09:19,125 --> 00:09:21,125 I know there are a bunch of Democrats who are 203 00:09:21,127 --> 00:09:23,867 advocating for that approach, but not 204 00:09:23,863 --> 00:09:26,303 enough Republicans. 205 00:09:26,299 --> 00:09:30,669 And the President is concerned that that 206 00:09:30,670 --> 00:09:32,670 situation has not been addressed in the 207 00:09:32,672 --> 00:09:35,642 context of these ongoing negotiations. 208 00:09:35,641 --> 00:09:39,741 So he's concerned about that. 209 00:09:39,745 --> 00:09:42,215 The President is also concerned about the fact 210 00:09:42,214 --> 00:09:49,624 that the proposal includes a rider that would 211 00:09:49,622 --> 00:09:51,622 essentially protect the ability of special 212 00:09:51,624 --> 00:09:56,934 interests to funnel money into political campaigns 213 00:09:56,929 --> 00:09:58,929 without having to disclose it. 214 00:10:03,602 --> 00:10:05,602 First of all, I don't really know what a 215 00:10:05,604 --> 00:10:07,874 proposal like that is doing in a budget bill, 216 00:10:07,873 --> 00:10:10,543 setting aside the fact that transparency in 217 00:10:10,543 --> 00:10:12,543 government and transparency in politics 218 00:10:12,545 --> 00:10:16,685 is something that is worthy of bipartisan support. 219 00:10:16,682 --> 00:10:19,752 So one of the reasons why I was a little late in 220 00:10:19,752 --> 00:10:22,122 joining you all today is I had an opportunity to talk 221 00:10:22,121 --> 00:10:24,121 with the President in the Oval Office about 222 00:10:24,123 --> 00:10:25,123 this proposal. 223 00:10:25,124 --> 00:10:27,124 And after that conversation it's not at 224 00:10:27,126 --> 00:10:31,226 all clear to me that he is prepared to sign this bill 225 00:10:31,230 --> 00:10:33,230 because he believes that Congress has got 226 00:10:33,232 --> 00:10:34,232 more work to do. 227 00:10:34,233 --> 00:10:38,273 And hopefully they'll get to work on that and get it 228 00:10:38,270 --> 00:10:44,140 done without putting the American people and the 229 00:10:44,143 --> 00:10:51,583 American economy through another cliffhanger 230 00:10:51,584 --> 00:10:54,684 related to a government shutdown. 231 00:10:54,687 --> 00:10:55,687 Michelle. 232 00:10:55,688 --> 00:10:57,828 The Press: When we're talking about the 9/11 233 00:10:57,823 --> 00:11:00,323 bill, and you're saying that sometimes what is 234 00:11:00,326 --> 00:11:02,296 said in these conversations doesn't 235 00:11:02,294 --> 00:11:04,764 match the votes and that the politics are tough, it 236 00:11:04,764 --> 00:11:07,004 sounds like you're saying that Democrats are playing 237 00:11:06,999 --> 00:11:09,999 politics, just as you've accused the Republicans of 238 00:11:10,002 --> 00:11:11,402 doing with other issues. 239 00:11:11,404 --> 00:11:15,774 Mr. Earnest: Well, listen, I think the -- I'm not 240 00:11:15,775 --> 00:11:17,075 going to generalize. 241 00:11:17,076 --> 00:11:19,076 I think what I would encourage you to do is to 242 00:11:19,078 --> 00:11:21,078 go talk to these members of Congress about what 243 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:22,080 their position is. 244 00:11:22,081 --> 00:11:25,181 And the President has made it quite clear about 245 00:11:25,184 --> 00:11:26,184 what his position is. 246 00:11:26,185 --> 00:11:27,785 It's a principled one. 247 00:11:27,787 --> 00:11:30,257 It's one that means he's taken some political heat, 248 00:11:30,256 --> 00:11:33,696 but he's prepared to take that political heat 249 00:11:33,692 --> 00:11:36,432 because he's committed to protecting our 250 00:11:36,429 --> 00:11:37,999 national security. 251 00:11:37,997 --> 00:11:39,997 But, look, here's the other thing that 252 00:11:39,999 --> 00:11:40,999 I've acknowledged. 253 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,000 The President is also in a better position to take 254 00:11:43,002 --> 00:11:45,142 this political heat because of his strong 255 00:11:45,137 --> 00:11:48,937 record of looking out for the families of those who 256 00:11:48,941 --> 00:11:50,841 lost loved ones on 9/11. 257 00:11:50,843 --> 00:11:53,443 This is the President that ordered the operation to 258 00:11:53,446 --> 00:11:55,646 take Osama bin Laden off the battlefield. 259 00:11:55,648 --> 00:11:58,818 This is the President who, time and again, advocated 260 00:11:58,818 --> 00:12:04,628 for legislation that provided health care to 261 00:12:04,623 --> 00:12:07,463 recovery workers at Ground Zero, even in the face of 262 00:12:07,460 --> 00:12:09,730 some Republican opposition to that. 263 00:12:09,728 --> 00:12:12,228 And this is the President who, time and time again, 264 00:12:12,231 --> 00:12:16,571 has spoken movingly about the impact that 9/11 has 265 00:12:16,569 --> 00:12:19,239 had on our country and the way that those who lost 266 00:12:19,238 --> 00:12:22,878 loved ones on 9/11 serve as a daily inspiration to 267 00:12:22,875 --> 00:12:24,915 the President and to Americans across the 268 00:12:24,910 --> 00:12:28,210 country in exhibiting the kind of resolve and 269 00:12:28,214 --> 00:12:31,684 resiliency that's unique to this country. 270 00:12:31,684 --> 00:12:33,854 And so, look, the President is better 271 00:12:33,853 --> 00:12:37,153 positioned to take this political heat than your 272 00:12:37,156 --> 00:12:38,286 average back-bencher in the 273 00:12:38,290 --> 00:12:40,290 United States Congress. 274 00:12:42,328 --> 00:12:43,698 But that's heat that the President is prepared to 275 00:12:43,696 --> 00:12:46,396 take, nonetheless, because he feels strongly about 276 00:12:46,398 --> 00:12:47,898 looking out for the interests of our 277 00:12:47,900 --> 00:12:49,240 servicemembers and our diplomats when they're 278 00:12:49,235 --> 00:12:50,805 representing our country overseas. 279 00:12:50,803 --> 00:12:52,643 The Press: But if he feels that strongly about this 280 00:12:52,638 --> 00:12:54,938 particular piece of legislation, why isn't he 281 00:12:54,940 --> 00:12:56,840 making calls or having meetings with particular 282 00:12:56,842 --> 00:12:59,242 members of Congress? 283 00:12:59,245 --> 00:13:00,775 Mr. Earnest: Well, I wouldn't rule out that 284 00:13:00,779 --> 00:13:02,979 he's had some conversations about this, 285 00:13:02,982 --> 00:13:05,252 but I don't have any specific conversations to 286 00:13:05,251 --> 00:13:06,991 tell you about. 287 00:13:06,986 --> 00:13:08,986 What I can say is there's no doubt about the 288 00:13:08,988 --> 00:13:09,958 President's position. 289 00:13:09,955 --> 00:13:12,195 He stated it clearly, both in answering your 290 00:13:12,191 --> 00:13:17,801 questions, and I've been answering a number of 291 00:13:17,796 --> 00:13:19,796 questions about this every day for the last 292 00:13:19,798 --> 00:13:20,798 couple of weeks. 293 00:13:20,799 --> 00:13:23,269 So I don't think there's any doubt about what the 294 00:13:23,269 --> 00:13:25,869 President's position is or why the President has 295 00:13:25,871 --> 00:13:27,871 adopted this position even in the face of some 296 00:13:27,873 --> 00:13:28,873 political criticism. 297 00:13:28,874 --> 00:13:32,144 The Press: So in having these conversations at the 298 00:13:32,144 --> 00:13:35,784 staff level, I mean, what you said was a little bit 299 00:13:35,781 --> 00:13:38,181 vague -- that what is said in these conversations 300 00:13:38,184 --> 00:13:39,924 don't necessarily match the votes. 301 00:13:39,919 --> 00:13:42,259 But what would you say about progress that is 302 00:13:42,254 --> 00:13:43,854 made in these conversations? 303 00:13:43,856 --> 00:13:47,456 Do you feel like that -- I mean, there's a positivity 304 00:13:47,459 --> 00:13:50,499 there, that this override might not happen? 305 00:13:50,496 --> 00:13:55,406 Mr. Earnest: Well, let me try to explain to you that 306 00:13:55,401 --> 00:13:59,871 in talking about this bill to members of Congress, 307 00:13:59,872 --> 00:14:04,542 our staffers are saying this opens up potentially U.S. 308 00:14:04,543 --> 00:14:05,543 servicemembers and U.S. 309 00:14:05,544 --> 00:14:10,054 diplomats to being hauled into court under spurious 310 00:14:10,049 --> 00:14:13,519 charges or under spurious claims in a way that would 311 00:14:13,519 --> 00:14:16,289 force the United States to expend significant 312 00:14:16,288 --> 00:14:19,088 resources and, in some cases, diplomatic capital 313 00:14:19,091 --> 00:14:21,091 to go and defend them. 314 00:14:25,297 --> 00:14:27,437 We also make a strong case that the most effective 315 00:14:27,433 --> 00:14:29,533 way for the United States to confront state sponsors 316 00:14:29,535 --> 00:14:32,335 of terrorism is to level a government-wide 317 00:14:32,338 --> 00:14:34,638 designation against them and take appropriate 318 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,210 steps, including sanctions, to isolate them 319 00:14:37,209 --> 00:14:39,209 from the United States and the rest of the 320 00:14:39,211 --> 00:14:41,451 international community, that that is a forceful 321 00:14:41,447 --> 00:14:45,887 way to compel them to stop supporting terrorism. 322 00:14:45,884 --> 00:14:48,354 But if we delegate that decision to a variety of 323 00:14:48,354 --> 00:14:50,354 judges in a variety of courtrooms, at a variety 324 00:14:50,356 --> 00:14:53,496 of levels, that unmistakable message of 325 00:14:53,492 --> 00:14:55,492 isolation is muddied. 326 00:14:56,862 --> 00:14:58,862 That's not a very effective way for us to 327 00:14:58,864 --> 00:15:04,874 express and confront -- to express opposition to and 328 00:15:04,870 --> 00:15:06,870 confront state sponsors of terrorism. 329 00:15:06,872 --> 00:15:10,442 And when those arguments are presented, some 330 00:15:10,442 --> 00:15:14,582 members of Congress express some sympathy to 331 00:15:14,580 --> 00:15:17,550 that position and, in some cases, even articulate 332 00:15:17,549 --> 00:15:21,549 their own unease about the potential impact of this bill. 333 00:15:21,553 --> 00:15:27,893 I'll just point out that members of Congress, those 334 00:15:27,893 --> 00:15:30,793 who do, in private, express concerns about the 335 00:15:30,796 --> 00:15:34,096 potential consequences of this bill are not alone. 336 00:15:34,099 --> 00:15:36,939 I read for you the letter yesterday from George W. 337 00:15:36,935 --> 00:15:40,575 Bush's attorney general expressing his deep 338 00:15:40,572 --> 00:15:43,872 concerns about the impact of this legislation. 339 00:15:43,876 --> 00:15:45,846 He was joined by national security experts in both 340 00:15:45,844 --> 00:15:49,814 parties who served under President Bush and 341 00:15:49,815 --> 00:15:51,115 President Clinton. 342 00:15:51,116 --> 00:15:55,256 We got a letter our allies at the European Union, 343 00:15:55,254 --> 00:15:57,724 some of our closest allies and partners in the world, 344 00:15:57,723 --> 00:15:59,693 expressing their deep concern about the 345 00:15:59,692 --> 00:16:04,232 consequences of this legislation entering into law. 346 00:16:04,229 --> 00:16:06,769 So there's widespread concern among our allies 347 00:16:06,765 --> 00:16:08,765 and among national security experts in both 348 00:16:08,767 --> 00:16:11,167 parties that's consistent with the argument that 349 00:16:11,170 --> 00:16:13,170 you've heard me make and that you've heard the 350 00:16:13,172 --> 00:16:14,102 President make publicly. 351 00:16:14,106 --> 00:16:20,476 So the argument that I'm trying to make here, 352 00:16:20,479 --> 00:16:26,789 Michelle, is to emphasize (that) 353 00:16:26,785 --> 00:16:29,385 much of the objection that we encounter on Capitol 354 00:16:29,388 --> 00:16:33,188 Hill to our arguments is not one that's based on 355 00:16:33,192 --> 00:16:36,192 the merits, but one that's based on the politics. 356 00:16:36,195 --> 00:16:39,235 That's not a new phenomenon. 357 00:16:39,231 --> 00:16:43,901 That's happened throughout this presidency, and it's 358 00:16:43,902 --> 00:16:47,572 happened throughout the presidency of the 43 359 00:16:47,573 --> 00:16:50,873 previous American presidents. 360 00:16:50,876 --> 00:16:54,346 But in this case, we're talking about our 361 00:16:54,346 --> 00:16:55,916 national security. 362 00:16:55,914 --> 00:16:57,884 We're talking about the risk that is facing 363 00:16:57,883 --> 00:17:00,053 American diplomats and American servicemembers. 364 00:17:00,052 --> 00:17:03,952 And that risk is significant, and it's not 365 00:17:03,956 --> 00:17:05,826 one the President is prepared to take. 366 00:17:05,824 --> 00:17:07,664 And he certainly is not -- does not believe that is a 367 00:17:07,659 --> 00:17:09,229 risk that the country should take. 368 00:17:09,228 --> 00:17:10,298 The Press: Do you feel these conversations have 369 00:17:10,295 --> 00:17:12,035 swayed any votes? 370 00:17:12,030 --> 00:17:14,700 Mr. Earnest: We'll see. 371 00:17:14,700 --> 00:17:16,270 Lana. 372 00:17:16,268 --> 00:17:17,868 The Press: You're running a very persuasive case on 373 00:17:17,870 --> 00:17:19,510 behalf of the administration for -- 374 00:17:19,505 --> 00:17:20,275 Mr. Earnest: Thank you, I appreciate that. 375 00:17:20,272 --> 00:17:21,542 The Press: -- well, good for you on that. 376 00:17:21,540 --> 00:17:23,240 But you would think that when you're talking about 377 00:17:23,242 --> 00:17:25,412 the diplomatic consequences of that, when 378 00:17:25,411 --> 00:17:27,651 you're talking about President Obama's own 379 00:17:27,646 --> 00:17:30,016 former Secretary of State saying that that isn't a 380 00:17:30,015 --> 00:17:32,755 concern for her and that she would, in fact, vote 381 00:17:32,751 --> 00:17:34,951 in favor of this bill if she was in his position, 382 00:17:34,953 --> 00:17:37,023 how do you reconcile that? 383 00:17:37,022 --> 00:17:39,022 Mr. Earnest: Well, listen, I'll let Secretary Clinton 384 00:17:39,024 --> 00:17:41,024 and her team talk about the position that she's 385 00:17:41,026 --> 00:17:41,996 taken on this. 386 00:17:41,994 --> 00:17:43,564 The Press: You said you're not surprised by it. 387 00:17:43,562 --> 00:17:45,232 Mr. Earnest: Yeah, I'm not. 388 00:17:45,230 --> 00:17:45,900 I'm not. 389 00:17:45,898 --> 00:17:46,928 The Press: You're saying she's taking the 390 00:17:46,932 --> 00:17:48,402 politically convenient choice rather than the 391 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,240 choice on the merits that you've been talking about. 392 00:17:50,235 --> 00:17:51,335 Mr. Earnest: I didn't characterize her position. 393 00:17:51,336 --> 00:17:53,836 I'll let her and her team do that. 394 00:17:53,839 --> 00:17:56,639 The Press: So is there a method by which somebody 395 00:17:56,642 --> 00:17:59,012 could look at all the same information and come up 396 00:17:59,011 --> 00:18:01,411 with a different conclusion about the 397 00:18:01,413 --> 00:18:04,153 potential diplomatic consequences of this bill? 398 00:18:04,149 --> 00:18:05,049 Mr. Earnest: Potentially. 399 00:18:05,050 --> 00:18:07,490 You'd have to go ask Secretary Clinton. 400 00:18:07,486 --> 00:18:09,456 I'm also not speaking on behalf of the position 401 00:18:09,455 --> 00:18:11,455 that's taken by individual members of Congress, either. 402 00:18:11,457 --> 00:18:13,457 They're going to have to explain their own position 403 00:18:13,459 --> 00:18:16,929 and their own votes, and if they want to reconcile 404 00:18:16,929 --> 00:18:19,629 their private conversations with the 405 00:18:19,631 --> 00:18:22,401 White House about this, then they're welcome 406 00:18:22,401 --> 00:18:23,401 to do that. 407 00:18:23,402 --> 00:18:25,402 And if they're -- I'm not going to reveal any 408 00:18:25,404 --> 00:18:28,074 confidences here, so they're going to have to 409 00:18:28,073 --> 00:18:29,913 sort of search their own conscience in terms of 410 00:18:29,908 --> 00:18:31,108 making a decision about how they want to talk 411 00:18:31,109 --> 00:18:32,679 about this publicly. 412 00:18:32,678 --> 00:18:37,078 I'm not aware of any conversations between 413 00:18:37,082 --> 00:18:40,382 Secretary Clinton and President Obama on this issue. 414 00:18:40,385 --> 00:18:42,785 So again, to get any insight into the position 415 00:18:42,788 --> 00:18:44,658 that she's taken, you'll have to ask her. 416 00:18:44,656 --> 00:18:45,626 The Press: Will you let us know if they do have a 417 00:18:45,624 --> 00:18:47,164 conversation on this issue? 418 00:18:47,159 --> 00:18:48,729 Mr. Earnest: Potentially. 419 00:18:48,727 --> 00:18:50,197 (laughter) 420 00:18:50,195 --> 00:18:50,865 The Press: All right. 421 00:18:50,863 --> 00:18:53,503 So, Monday night, does the President have any plans, 422 00:18:53,499 --> 00:18:54,969 anything he's going to tune into TV and watch? 423 00:18:54,967 --> 00:18:57,137 Mr. Earnest: Well, Monday Night Football. 424 00:18:57,135 --> 00:18:58,105 The Press: Oh, Monday Night Football. 425 00:18:58,103 --> 00:18:58,933 Is that what he's going to be watching? 426 00:18:58,937 --> 00:19:00,007 Mr. Earnest: I know the President is pretty fired 427 00:19:00,005 --> 00:19:00,935 up about Monday Night Football. 428 00:19:00,939 --> 00:19:02,009 I don't know who's on the calendar for Monday Night 429 00:19:02,007 --> 00:19:04,007 Football this week, but I'm sure the President does. 430 00:19:04,009 --> 00:19:04,679 (laughter) 431 00:19:04,676 --> 00:19:06,876 Look, I would anticipate that the President will 432 00:19:06,879 --> 00:19:08,749 watch much of, if not all, of the debate. 433 00:19:08,747 --> 00:19:10,787 I didn't talk to him about that today. 434 00:19:10,782 --> 00:19:17,552 But look, I think there will be millions of people 435 00:19:17,556 --> 00:19:19,526 across the country who are quite interested to see 436 00:19:19,525 --> 00:19:21,525 the two candidates on stage together for the 437 00:19:21,527 --> 00:19:23,267 first time, and I imagine the President will 438 00:19:23,262 --> 00:19:24,532 be one of them. 439 00:19:24,530 --> 00:19:26,530 The Press: And a follow-up to yesterday's hack. 440 00:19:26,532 --> 00:19:30,232 You had said yesterday that the White House was 441 00:19:30,235 --> 00:19:31,235 investigating this. 442 00:19:31,236 --> 00:19:32,206 Any updates? 443 00:19:32,204 --> 00:19:33,304 You weren't prepared at that time to tell us 444 00:19:33,305 --> 00:19:35,105 whether or not that was in fact First Lady Michelle 445 00:19:35,107 --> 00:19:36,107 Obama's passport. 446 00:19:36,108 --> 00:19:37,238 Can you confirm that now? 447 00:19:37,242 --> 00:19:38,512 Mr. Earnest: I'm not in a position to confirm that. 448 00:19:38,510 --> 00:19:40,710 You can check with the Secret Service, who 449 00:19:40,712 --> 00:19:45,052 obviously is at the forefront of ensuring the 450 00:19:45,050 --> 00:19:49,450 safety of the First Family. 451 00:19:49,454 --> 00:19:51,494 There continue to be administration officials 452 00:19:51,490 --> 00:19:53,490 who do look at this particular situation, but 453 00:19:53,492 --> 00:19:55,492 I don't have any update on it at this point. 454 00:19:55,494 --> 00:19:58,494 The Press: And just one more follow-up on that. 455 00:19:58,497 --> 00:20:01,597 Do you have any comment on the potential Russian ties 456 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,040 with this email hack? 457 00:20:03,035 --> 00:20:05,035 Mr. Earnest: I don't at this point. 458 00:20:05,037 --> 00:20:06,037 Olivier. 459 00:20:06,038 --> 00:20:07,038 The Press: Thanks, Josh. 460 00:20:07,039 --> 00:20:10,939 On what's being called the 9/11 bill, can you share, 461 00:20:10,943 --> 00:20:13,613 or can you get us the number of times that this 462 00:20:13,612 --> 00:20:17,112 administration has invoked sovereign immunity and the 463 00:20:17,115 --> 00:20:21,355 circumstances surrounding the most recent case? 464 00:20:21,353 --> 00:20:23,493 Mr. Earnest: Let me see what I can find 465 00:20:23,488 --> 00:20:24,218 out about that. 466 00:20:24,222 --> 00:20:28,362 I'll look into it. 467 00:20:28,360 --> 00:20:30,330 The Press: And then just on the substance of the 468 00:20:30,329 --> 00:20:33,629 question, why shouldn't a government official who is 469 00:20:33,632 --> 00:20:36,632 responsible for, tied to, whatever, an act of 470 00:20:36,635 --> 00:20:38,675 international terrorism -- whether it's a government 471 00:20:38,670 --> 00:20:41,110 official from this country or another country -- why 472 00:20:41,106 --> 00:20:44,776 shouldn't there be civil relief available to 473 00:20:44,776 --> 00:20:46,616 relatives of people who were killed under 474 00:20:46,612 --> 00:20:48,142 those circumstances? 475 00:20:48,146 --> 00:20:49,686 Mr. Earnest: Well, because I think the question 476 00:20:49,681 --> 00:20:52,981 really, Olivier, is to evaluate -- well, I think 477 00:20:52,985 --> 00:20:54,985 the question is actually about whether or not the 478 00:20:54,987 --> 00:20:56,987 country of Saudi Arabia would be held responsible. 479 00:20:56,989 --> 00:20:58,989 The Press: But when you're being asked, you're 480 00:20:58,991 --> 00:21:02,331 pointing to specific American diplomats and 481 00:21:02,327 --> 00:21:03,697 servicemen and women. 482 00:21:03,695 --> 00:21:06,965 So, clearly, individuals here -- there's got to be 483 00:21:06,965 --> 00:21:09,535 jeopardy for individuals. 484 00:21:09,534 --> 00:21:11,534 Mr. Earnest: What I'm suggesting is that that 485 00:21:11,536 --> 00:21:14,036 could be the corresponding response to this 486 00:21:14,039 --> 00:21:15,939 legislation going into effect. 487 00:21:15,941 --> 00:21:18,341 And that would be a reasonable reciprocation 488 00:21:18,343 --> 00:21:24,953 of the steps that the United States Congress is 489 00:21:24,950 --> 00:21:26,450 poised to pass into law here. 490 00:21:26,451 --> 00:21:29,721 So look, the administration believes 491 00:21:29,721 --> 00:21:31,721 strongly that individuals need to be 492 00:21:31,723 --> 00:21:33,193 held accountable. 493 00:21:33,191 --> 00:21:38,801 And, in fact, we also believe that countries who 494 00:21:38,797 --> 00:21:41,797 sponsor terrorism should be held accountable. 495 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,740 And if anything, this legislation waters down 496 00:21:45,737 --> 00:21:47,437 our ability to do that. 497 00:21:47,439 --> 00:21:51,479 There already is a well codified -- there already 498 00:21:51,476 --> 00:21:56,616 is a codified process enacted by Congress for 499 00:21:56,615 --> 00:21:59,015 designating specific countries as state 500 00:21:59,017 --> 00:22:01,017 sponsors of terrorism. 501 00:22:02,421 --> 00:22:07,021 So there are countries like Iran and Syria that 502 00:22:07,025 --> 00:22:10,395 fit that description, and they are faced with a 503 00:22:10,395 --> 00:22:13,795 whole set of sanctions and broader international 504 00:22:13,799 --> 00:22:17,769 isolation because of that designation. 505 00:22:17,769 --> 00:22:20,069 And that's a forceful way -- that's a 506 00:22:20,072 --> 00:22:22,142 forceful response. 507 00:22:22,140 --> 00:22:26,340 And if we were going to essentially delegate that 508 00:22:26,344 --> 00:22:30,684 designation to individual judges considering 509 00:22:30,682 --> 00:22:32,682 different pieces of evidence and reaching 510 00:22:32,684 --> 00:22:35,184 different conclusions potentially, that waters 511 00:22:35,187 --> 00:22:37,957 down our ability to send an unmistakable signal 512 00:22:37,956 --> 00:22:42,296 that the United States is prepared to confront, in 513 00:22:42,294 --> 00:22:45,964 the toughest possible terms, governments that 514 00:22:45,964 --> 00:22:48,264 sponsor terrorism. 515 00:22:48,266 --> 00:22:49,136 Cheryl. 516 00:22:49,134 --> 00:22:50,034 The Press: Thanks, Josh. 517 00:22:50,035 --> 00:22:54,305 On the CR, we're one week away from the end of the 518 00:22:54,306 --> 00:22:56,176 fiscal year and a possible government shutdown. 519 00:22:56,174 --> 00:23:00,014 Do you believe that the CR proposal that the Senate 520 00:23:00,011 --> 00:23:03,781 has is the best you're going to get, or are you 521 00:23:03,782 --> 00:23:07,122 expecting them to continue negotiating it? 522 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:08,089 Mr. Earnest: The President does believe that they've 523 00:23:08,086 --> 00:23:09,086 got more work to do. 524 00:23:09,087 --> 00:23:14,457 And I think there are a lot of Democrats on 525 00:23:14,459 --> 00:23:17,559 Capitol Hill who share that view, and I think it 526 00:23:17,562 --> 00:23:22,432 is unclear at best right now whether or not this 527 00:23:22,434 --> 00:23:28,744 particular piece of legislation will pass both 528 00:23:28,740 --> 00:23:30,740 houses of Congress and make its way to the 529 00:23:30,742 --> 00:23:31,942 President's desk. 530 00:23:31,943 --> 00:23:36,013 Even if it were, it's also unclear at best right now 531 00:23:36,014 --> 00:23:38,284 if the President would sign it. 532 00:23:38,283 --> 00:23:43,253 So it sounds to me like Republicans in Congress 533 00:23:43,255 --> 00:23:45,925 have some more work to do to make sure that the 534 00:23:45,924 --> 00:23:47,924 government doesn't shut down a week from now. 535 00:23:47,926 --> 00:23:53,166 The Press: How would you describe, at least from 536 00:23:53,165 --> 00:23:56,135 the White House perspective, the tenor 537 00:23:56,134 --> 00:23:57,134 of the negotiations? 538 00:23:57,135 --> 00:24:00,305 Clearly, there does not appear to be panic that 539 00:24:00,305 --> 00:24:01,475 the government is about to shut down. 540 00:24:01,473 --> 00:24:04,273 Would you say negotiations are going well, 541 00:24:04,276 --> 00:24:06,146 better this year? 542 00:24:06,144 --> 00:24:09,514 Mr. Earnest: Well, I do think it's too early for 543 00:24:09,514 --> 00:24:10,514 people to panic. 544 00:24:10,515 --> 00:24:11,515 So I'm not advocating that. 545 00:24:11,516 --> 00:24:15,556 But there remains some important work to be done. 546 00:24:15,554 --> 00:24:18,724 Fortunately, there are seven days to get it done. 547 00:24:18,723 --> 00:24:21,623 And hopefully Congress will not take all seven 548 00:24:21,626 --> 00:24:26,196 days, but will spend some time working over the weekend. 549 00:24:26,198 --> 00:24:28,198 I don't think that's too much to ask considering 550 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,070 they recently completed a seven-week vacation. 551 00:24:31,069 --> 00:24:34,909 So pulling a few hours over the weekend to make 552 00:24:34,906 --> 00:24:36,576 sure this gets done in a timely fashion I don't 553 00:24:36,575 --> 00:24:40,275 think is too much for the American people to ensure 554 00:24:40,278 --> 00:24:42,678 that Congress is fulfilling arguably their 555 00:24:42,681 --> 00:24:44,721 most basic responsibility, which is funding the 556 00:24:44,716 --> 00:24:47,656 government and avoiding a government shutdown. 557 00:24:47,652 --> 00:24:48,692 Ron. 558 00:24:48,687 --> 00:24:50,287 The Press: I'm not sure I understand this argument 559 00:24:50,288 --> 00:24:53,188 about the bill, the 9/11 bill and state 560 00:24:53,191 --> 00:24:55,891 sponsors of terrorism. 561 00:24:55,894 --> 00:24:58,494 There's no other way to designate a country or to 562 00:24:58,496 --> 00:25:01,766 impose sanctions comprehensively on a 563 00:25:01,766 --> 00:25:06,576 country if this bill is -- aside from this mechanism? 564 00:25:06,571 --> 00:25:08,871 Mr. Earnest: Ron, the point is that there 565 00:25:08,874 --> 00:25:13,374 already is an existing system for doing that. 566 00:25:13,378 --> 00:25:14,378 That's the point. 567 00:25:14,379 --> 00:25:18,519 The Press: So what you're saying is that if this -- 568 00:25:18,516 --> 00:25:19,516 this would eliminate that? 569 00:25:19,517 --> 00:25:21,517 Mr. Earnest: No, no, it wouldn't eliminate that. 570 00:25:21,519 --> 00:25:23,619 But it certainly would cloud that judgement. 571 00:25:23,622 --> 00:25:25,722 Because right now, for example, Saudi Arabia is 572 00:25:25,724 --> 00:25:29,594 not on the state sponsors of terror list. 573 00:25:29,594 --> 00:25:35,334 And this kind of legislation could open up 574 00:25:35,333 --> 00:25:37,703 the potential for a variety of court decisions 575 00:25:37,702 --> 00:25:40,242 that could reach differing conclusions about that. 576 00:25:40,238 --> 00:25:42,238 You could also imagine other court cases being 577 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,540 filed that would raise similar questions about 578 00:25:44,542 --> 00:25:47,182 Iran's conduct or Syria's conduct. 579 00:25:47,178 --> 00:25:50,848 And if we end up in a situation where plaintiffs 580 00:25:50,849 --> 00:25:53,989 in a case do not succeed in making their case 581 00:25:53,985 --> 00:25:58,895 against Syria, hypothetically, it 582 00:25:58,890 --> 00:26:01,830 certainly muddies the water when it 583 00:26:01,826 --> 00:26:02,826 comes to the U.S. 584 00:26:02,827 --> 00:26:07,597 government position about whether or not Syria is 585 00:26:07,599 --> 00:26:10,369 complicit in supporting terrorism. 586 00:26:10,368 --> 00:26:13,208 The Press: The other part of this -- you were asked 587 00:26:13,204 --> 00:26:14,774 earlier about sovereign immunity. 588 00:26:14,773 --> 00:26:18,213 What is the situation -- is there any situation 589 00:26:18,209 --> 00:26:22,349 that you can recall, or if you can tell us about 590 00:26:22,347 --> 00:26:25,117 where, without that protection abroad, a 591 00:26:25,116 --> 00:26:27,416 diplomat, a soldier, someone would have 592 00:26:27,419 --> 00:26:28,089 been at risk? 593 00:26:28,086 --> 00:26:30,356 Mr. Earnest: Well, for a specific case, I'd refer 594 00:26:30,355 --> 00:26:31,895 you to the Department of Justice or even the State 595 00:26:31,890 --> 00:26:33,120 Department, and they may be able to tell you a 596 00:26:33,124 --> 00:26:35,364 little bit more about a particular situation 597 00:26:35,360 --> 00:26:37,800 where this cropped up. 598 00:26:37,796 --> 00:26:41,096 But in general, we know that U.S. 599 00:26:41,099 --> 00:26:44,799 government personnel are engaged in a variety of 600 00:26:44,803 --> 00:26:47,543 activities to protect our national security, to 601 00:26:47,539 --> 00:26:51,209 advance our interests around the world. 602 00:26:51,209 --> 00:26:53,609 And the prospect that in carrying out that work 603 00:26:53,611 --> 00:26:56,751 they could get hauled into court in some other 604 00:26:56,748 --> 00:27:00,518 country under dubious pretenses, that's 605 00:27:00,518 --> 00:27:02,518 something that we're deeply concerned about. 606 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,760 But that's exactly the kind of loophole that 607 00:27:06,758 --> 00:27:08,528 could potentially be created here. 608 00:27:08,526 --> 00:27:09,726 The Press: Do you think the Saudis would do that? 609 00:27:09,728 --> 00:27:12,768 Mr. Earnest: I'm not going to speculate about 610 00:27:12,764 --> 00:27:14,334 individual countries and what their potential 611 00:27:14,332 --> 00:27:15,262 reaction would be. 612 00:27:15,266 --> 00:27:17,506 But you can talk to the Saudis about that. 613 00:27:17,502 --> 00:27:22,742 The Press: Have they warned you or told you, 614 00:27:22,741 --> 00:27:23,611 told the U.S. 615 00:27:23,608 --> 00:27:28,678 what they will do if, in fact, this bill is -- this 616 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,020 veto is overridden? 617 00:27:30,015 --> 00:27:31,045 Mr. Earnest: Well, I know they've said a number 618 00:27:31,049 --> 00:27:32,019 of things publicly. 619 00:27:32,017 --> 00:27:33,987 I'll let them characterize their position. 620 00:27:33,985 --> 00:27:37,355 But our partners and allies at the European 621 00:27:37,355 --> 00:27:39,325 Union are certainly concerned about that, and 622 00:27:39,324 --> 00:27:41,624 that was the reason that they sent the letter 623 00:27:41,626 --> 00:27:43,626 expressing their grave concern about this 624 00:27:43,628 --> 00:27:45,628 particular piece of legislation, because they 625 00:27:45,630 --> 00:27:48,230 understand that countries around the world, and 626 00:27:48,233 --> 00:27:50,233 potentially countries who are members of the 627 00:27:50,235 --> 00:27:53,635 European Union, would pass legislation carving out 628 00:27:53,638 --> 00:27:55,638 exceptions to sovereign immunity. 629 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,910 And no country has more to lose in the context of 630 00:27:57,909 --> 00:28:00,679 those exceptions than the United States of America, 631 00:28:00,678 --> 00:28:02,678 given the preeminent role that we play 632 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,720 in global affairs. 633 00:28:04,716 --> 00:28:07,756 The Press: On Charlotte, there's a DOJ team that 634 00:28:07,752 --> 00:28:09,652 went down there. 635 00:28:09,654 --> 00:28:12,354 Now, this is not an "investigation," as in the 636 00:28:12,357 --> 00:28:13,587 case in Tulsa. 637 00:28:13,591 --> 00:28:15,731 Have they been able to give the President an 638 00:28:15,727 --> 00:28:18,097 assessment of where the situation stands there now 639 00:28:18,096 --> 00:28:22,136 in real time -- this community relations 640 00:28:22,133 --> 00:28:24,603 team, essentially? 641 00:28:24,602 --> 00:28:26,802 Mr. Earnest: That team is on the ground primarily to 642 00:28:26,805 --> 00:28:31,145 offer some expertise and advice the local officials 643 00:28:31,142 --> 00:28:33,312 who are grappling with the difficult situation right now. 644 00:28:33,311 --> 00:28:35,311 Their primary function is not to report back 645 00:28:35,313 --> 00:28:36,713 to the White House. 646 00:28:36,714 --> 00:28:40,154 There are other ways that the President can continue 647 00:28:40,151 --> 00:28:42,551 to be informed of events on the ground. 648 00:28:42,554 --> 00:28:45,154 There are White House staffers here who are in 649 00:28:45,156 --> 00:28:48,626 close touch with the Charlotte mayor and her 650 00:28:48,626 --> 00:28:51,996 office, and the Tulsa mayor and his office. 651 00:28:51,996 --> 00:28:54,336 I can tell you that senior administration officials 652 00:28:54,332 --> 00:28:56,332 -- or senior White House officials have been in 653 00:28:56,334 --> 00:28:57,934 touch with Anthony Foxx. 654 00:28:57,936 --> 00:28:58,966 He's currently the Secretary of 655 00:28:58,970 --> 00:29:00,970 Transportation, but he's also the former mayor of 656 00:29:00,972 --> 00:29:04,112 Charlotte, so he obviously has a lot of ties to that 657 00:29:04,109 --> 00:29:07,649 community and a lot of relationships with people 658 00:29:07,645 --> 00:29:08,785 who can offer an assessment about what's 659 00:29:08,780 --> 00:29:09,610 happening there. 660 00:29:09,614 --> 00:29:11,984 So there are a variety of ways for the President to 661 00:29:11,983 --> 00:29:13,253 get a very clear understanding about what 662 00:29:13,251 --> 00:29:15,051 exactly is happening in Charlotte right now. 663 00:29:15,053 --> 00:29:16,493 The Press: What is the assessment now? 664 00:29:16,488 --> 00:29:17,758 Mr. Earnest: Well, look, I think the assessment is 665 00:29:17,755 --> 00:29:21,225 one that -- the assessment that the President has 666 00:29:21,226 --> 00:29:23,066 received is consistent with the one that all of 667 00:29:23,061 --> 00:29:26,701 you have been reporting, which is there continue 668 00:29:26,698 --> 00:29:28,568 to be protests. 669 00:29:28,566 --> 00:29:33,576 They appeared to have been more peaceful last night 670 00:29:33,571 --> 00:29:37,141 than they were on the two previous nights. 671 00:29:37,142 --> 00:29:39,142 That obviously is a welcome development. 672 00:29:39,144 --> 00:29:41,144 And you heard the President talk about this 673 00:29:41,146 --> 00:29:43,116 a little bit yesterday in his interview 674 00:29:43,114 --> 00:29:44,114 with Robin Roberts. 675 00:29:44,115 --> 00:29:46,115 But this is a situation that we're going to 676 00:29:46,117 --> 00:29:48,117 continue to closely monitor from here in terms 677 00:29:48,119 --> 00:29:50,119 of the impact on that broader community. 678 00:29:50,121 --> 00:29:54,561 The Press: And lastly, on this issue of the release 679 00:29:54,559 --> 00:29:56,699 of the videotape and all that, what is the 680 00:29:56,694 --> 00:29:59,994 President's thinking about that particular aspect of 681 00:29:59,998 --> 00:30:04,968 this, given the demand for transparency in that 682 00:30:04,969 --> 00:30:06,209 community and so many others? 683 00:30:06,204 --> 00:30:08,344 Mr. Earnest: Well, listen, the President believes 684 00:30:08,339 --> 00:30:10,339 that this is a decision that should be made by 685 00:30:10,341 --> 00:30:11,341 local officials. 686 00:30:11,342 --> 00:30:14,982 And the mayor and the police chief I think are 687 00:30:14,979 --> 00:30:16,979 the ones that ultimately are going to have to 688 00:30:16,981 --> 00:30:20,381 decide, and they should do so consistent with their 689 00:30:20,385 --> 00:30:22,355 judgment about the best interest of the community. 690 00:30:22,353 --> 00:30:25,053 And they also are going to have to make a judgment 691 00:30:25,056 --> 00:30:27,496 consistent with state and local laws. 692 00:30:27,492 --> 00:30:30,732 And based on what I've read, there may be some 693 00:30:30,728 --> 00:30:33,398 laws that could have an impact on their decision. 694 00:30:36,534 --> 00:30:39,174 So I'm not going to be able to speak precisely to 695 00:30:39,170 --> 00:30:41,170 the decision that needs to be made by local 696 00:30:41,172 --> 00:30:42,172 officials in Charlotte. 697 00:30:42,173 --> 00:30:45,543 But as a matter of principle, I think the 698 00:30:45,543 --> 00:30:47,983 President has reached the pretty common-sense 699 00:30:47,979 --> 00:30:51,619 conclusion that when you're in a position 700 00:30:51,616 --> 00:30:56,686 needing to build trust with a group of people, 701 00:30:56,688 --> 00:31:01,388 being as candid as possible is usually 702 00:31:01,392 --> 00:31:02,392 the best approach. 703 00:31:02,393 --> 00:31:03,893 The Press: And being as transparent as possible? 704 00:31:03,895 --> 00:31:06,035 Candid, transparent -- I don't want to put 705 00:31:06,030 --> 00:31:09,030 words in your mouth. 706 00:31:09,033 --> 00:31:10,003 Mr. Earnest: Candid as possible is usually 707 00:31:10,001 --> 00:31:11,171 the best approach. 708 00:31:11,169 --> 00:31:12,399 Jerome. 709 00:31:12,403 --> 00:31:13,133 The Press: Thank you, Josh. 710 00:31:13,137 --> 00:31:14,907 The EU President said today that it was not 711 00:31:14,906 --> 00:31:17,706 realistic to get a deal with the U.S. 712 00:31:17,709 --> 00:31:19,879 by the end of the Obama presidency. 713 00:31:19,877 --> 00:31:23,617 The TPP, the prospect of being ratified in Congress 714 00:31:23,615 --> 00:31:24,885 looks very limited. 715 00:31:24,882 --> 00:31:27,152 What's left of the President's ambitious 716 00:31:27,151 --> 00:31:32,461 trade deals policy? 717 00:31:32,457 --> 00:31:35,827 Mr. Earnest: Well, Jerome, the briefing room is an 718 00:31:35,827 --> 00:31:38,727 appropriate setting for skeptical questions to be 719 00:31:38,730 --> 00:31:43,770 asked, but as is usually the case in this setting, 720 00:31:43,768 --> 00:31:46,408 we're a lot more hopeful than your question 721 00:31:46,404 --> 00:31:48,644 would suggest. 722 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,840 There is plenty of reason for Democrats and 723 00:31:50,842 --> 00:31:54,242 Republicans on Capitol Hill to give careful 724 00:31:54,245 --> 00:31:56,215 consideration and eventually support the 725 00:31:56,214 --> 00:31:57,614 Trans-Pacific Partnership. 726 00:31:57,615 --> 00:31:59,585 There certainly is widespread public support 727 00:31:59,584 --> 00:32:01,984 all across the country, and there are a variety of 728 00:32:01,986 --> 00:32:03,986 polls that have come out in the last few months 729 00:32:03,988 --> 00:32:07,458 that indicate that a majority of Democrats and 730 00:32:07,458 --> 00:32:09,458 a majority of Republicans and a majority of 731 00:32:09,460 --> 00:32:13,300 independents across the country support the 732 00:32:13,298 --> 00:32:18,638 Trans-Pacific Partnership or trade deals like it. 733 00:32:18,636 --> 00:32:21,536 We also know that last year the President was 734 00:32:21,539 --> 00:32:24,479 able to succeed in building a bipartisan 735 00:32:24,475 --> 00:32:27,075 coalition to support legislation that gave him 736 00:32:27,078 --> 00:32:29,918 the authority to complete the negotiations. 737 00:32:29,914 --> 00:32:32,384 If you think about it, that actually seems like a 738 00:32:32,383 --> 00:32:34,723 much tougher sell. 739 00:32:34,719 --> 00:32:36,359 Convincing Republicans to give the Democratic 740 00:32:36,354 --> 00:32:40,494 President authority to do something is a tough sell, 741 00:32:40,491 --> 00:32:44,131 but something we succeeded in getting done. 742 00:32:44,128 --> 00:32:47,828 With regard to the TPP, now we're in a position of 743 00:32:47,832 --> 00:32:50,402 just advocating to Republicans in Congress, 744 00:32:50,401 --> 00:32:51,801 hey, do you want to vote for a bill that will 745 00:32:51,803 --> 00:32:53,473 actually cut 18,000 taxes that other countries 746 00:32:53,471 --> 00:32:55,611 impose on American goods? 747 00:32:55,606 --> 00:32:57,506 And we can go to Democrats and say, hey, do you want 748 00:32:57,508 --> 00:32:59,508 to go raise labor standards, and 749 00:32:59,510 --> 00:33:01,510 environmental standards, and intellectual property 750 00:33:01,512 --> 00:33:03,512 protection standards in countries all around the 751 00:33:03,514 --> 00:33:05,484 world in a way that will level the playing field 752 00:33:05,483 --> 00:33:07,483 for American workers and American businesses? 753 00:33:07,485 --> 00:33:09,485 We can actually do something about these 754 00:33:09,487 --> 00:33:15,257 broader global trends that, in some cases, have 755 00:33:15,259 --> 00:33:17,259 dealt a pretty tough blow to some communities 756 00:33:17,261 --> 00:33:19,101 across the country. 757 00:33:19,097 --> 00:33:20,997 That's a pretty good case. 758 00:33:20,998 --> 00:33:22,998 Not a slam-dunk case, but I think it's a pretty 759 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,000 strong case. 760 00:33:24,001 --> 00:33:26,001 And based on the track record of building a 761 00:33:26,003 --> 00:33:28,473 bipartisan majority last year, we're hopeful that 762 00:33:28,473 --> 00:33:30,473 we'll be able to do the same thing before 763 00:33:30,475 --> 00:33:31,545 the end of this year. 764 00:33:31,542 --> 00:33:33,082 But we'll see. 765 00:33:33,077 --> 00:33:39,987 With regard to T-TIP, the European trade deal, it's 766 00:33:39,984 --> 00:33:42,684 not uncommon, over the last several months, for 767 00:33:42,687 --> 00:33:45,457 people to be openly worrying about whether or 768 00:33:45,456 --> 00:33:48,256 not this is something that we can do. 769 00:33:48,259 --> 00:33:50,259 The President set an ambitious goal earlier 770 00:33:50,261 --> 00:33:53,261 this year of trying to complete negotiations 771 00:33:53,264 --> 00:33:54,664 before the end of the year. 772 00:33:54,665 --> 00:33:55,835 They're not completed yet. 773 00:33:55,833 --> 00:34:00,033 They've got a lot of negotiating left to do. 774 00:34:00,037 --> 00:34:02,937 But as I understand it, the U.S. 775 00:34:02,940 --> 00:34:05,410 Trade Representative was just in Europe within the 776 00:34:05,410 --> 00:34:08,380 last few weeks trying to move this forward. 777 00:34:08,379 --> 00:34:10,679 So we'll see if we can get you some more information 778 00:34:10,681 --> 00:34:13,281 from them about the current status of 779 00:34:13,284 --> 00:34:14,454 those negotiations. 780 00:34:14,452 --> 00:34:16,352 But that's an ambitious goal, I would acknowledge 781 00:34:16,354 --> 00:34:18,754 that on the front end, but it's still one that we're 782 00:34:18,756 --> 00:34:21,596 aiming to achieve. 783 00:34:21,592 --> 00:34:22,832 Gregory. 784 00:34:22,827 --> 00:34:26,397 The Press: This 9/11 lawsuit bill seems to be 785 00:34:26,397 --> 00:34:29,237 framed as an up or down proposition. 786 00:34:29,233 --> 00:34:31,503 Is that accurate, or is there room for compromise? 787 00:34:31,502 --> 00:34:38,812 Mr. Earnest: Well, we certainly would welcome 788 00:34:38,810 --> 00:34:41,550 congressional action that would address the concerns 789 00:34:41,546 --> 00:34:43,546 that we've raised. 790 00:34:46,884 --> 00:34:49,854 So I guess that's the reason that we're having 791 00:34:49,854 --> 00:34:51,994 conversations, is to try to find an approach that 792 00:34:51,989 --> 00:34:55,829 would satisfy the concerns and the desire of some 793 00:34:55,827 --> 00:35:00,297 members of Congress to want to address the 794 00:35:00,298 --> 00:35:02,838 request of the 9/11 families. 795 00:35:05,369 --> 00:35:09,269 And we're hopeful that they can find a way to do 796 00:35:09,273 --> 00:35:11,513 that that doesn't carve out the kinds of 797 00:35:11,509 --> 00:35:13,879 exceptions that put our diplomats and 798 00:35:13,878 --> 00:35:15,878 servicemembers at risk around the world. 799 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,880 The Press: But your answer to Olivier before sort of 800 00:35:17,882 --> 00:35:19,352 suggested that there are two moving parts here. 801 00:35:19,350 --> 00:35:21,350 There is the sovereign immunity stripping 802 00:35:21,352 --> 00:35:25,652 provisions of JASTA, but also the response from 803 00:35:25,656 --> 00:35:27,156 other nations, which may or may not be 804 00:35:27,158 --> 00:35:28,998 reciprocal to that. 805 00:35:28,993 --> 00:35:33,063 So is there any -- am I characterizing your 806 00:35:33,064 --> 00:35:34,264 position correctly? 807 00:35:34,265 --> 00:35:37,335 If that's true, is there anything that you can do 808 00:35:37,335 --> 00:35:42,005 to reduce the immunity protection without 809 00:35:42,006 --> 00:35:49,676 triggering some sort of international law -- 810 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,080 Mr. Earnest: I guess what I would say -- the best 811 00:35:53,084 --> 00:35:55,084 way I can answer your question, Gregory, is to 812 00:35:55,086 --> 00:36:00,556 say that, yes, potentially there is a way to address 813 00:36:00,558 --> 00:36:03,858 the significant concerns that we've raised about 814 00:36:03,861 --> 00:36:05,201 the risk facing U.S. 815 00:36:05,196 --> 00:36:06,196 servicemembers and U.S. 816 00:36:06,197 --> 00:36:09,867 diplomats while also addressing the requests 817 00:36:09,867 --> 00:36:10,937 of the 9/11 families. 818 00:36:10,935 --> 00:36:11,865 That's the -- 819 00:36:11,869 --> 00:36:13,209 The Press: Are you prepared to say (inaudible) ? 820 00:36:13,204 --> 00:36:16,304 Mr. Earnest: No, but I think that's the nature of 821 00:36:16,307 --> 00:36:18,407 of Congress on Capitol Hill. 822 00:36:18,409 --> 00:36:20,049 I don't know if something like that exists, but 823 00:36:20,044 --> 00:36:23,344 we're certainly in conversations to find out 824 00:36:23,347 --> 00:36:26,547 if it does. 825 00:36:26,551 --> 00:36:27,551 Toluse. 826 00:36:27,552 --> 00:36:28,352 The Press: Thanks, Josh. 827 00:36:28,352 --> 00:36:29,722 I wanted to ask you about Syria. 828 00:36:29,720 --> 00:36:33,560 There's a new offensive there in east Aleppo. 829 00:36:33,558 --> 00:36:36,158 I'm wondering if the White House still believes that 830 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,800 the ceasefire that was agreed to is still in effect. 831 00:36:39,797 --> 00:36:42,937 And if you do, sort of what kind of case can you 832 00:36:42,934 --> 00:36:45,474 make for it at this point? 833 00:36:45,469 --> 00:36:48,639 Mr. Earnest: Well, Toluse, we clearly have seen an 834 00:36:48,639 --> 00:36:50,379 increase in violence over the last several days. 835 00:36:50,374 --> 00:36:52,744 And that's not a welcome development at all. 836 00:36:52,743 --> 00:36:54,643 In fact, the arrangement that we tried to reach 837 00:36:54,645 --> 00:36:56,985 with the Russians was engineered to try to 838 00:36:56,981 --> 00:36:58,881 reduce violence. 839 00:36:58,883 --> 00:37:03,083 And unfortunately, that only worked for a rather 840 00:37:03,087 --> 00:37:05,287 short period of time. 841 00:37:05,289 --> 00:37:07,829 Look, over the last several days we have seen 842 00:37:07,825 --> 00:37:10,095 Syria announce their intent to unilaterally 843 00:37:10,094 --> 00:37:13,194 withdraw from the Cessation of Hostilities. 844 00:37:13,197 --> 00:37:17,497 We saw an attack on U.N. 845 00:37:17,501 --> 00:37:19,671 aid workers, for which we hold the Russians 846 00:37:19,670 --> 00:37:24,410 accountable, because know that it was either carried 847 00:37:24,408 --> 00:37:28,378 out by the Russian military or by the 848 00:37:28,379 --> 00:37:31,049 Syrian military. 849 00:37:31,048 --> 00:37:35,488 And Russia is the party that's taken 850 00:37:35,486 --> 00:37:41,626 responsibility for keeping the Syrian military in line. 851 00:37:41,626 --> 00:37:46,766 And obviously striking a humanitarian aid convoy is 852 00:37:46,764 --> 00:37:50,404 way out of line, entirely inconsistent with 853 00:37:50,401 --> 00:37:55,141 international principles, and in the view of many 854 00:37:55,139 --> 00:37:59,139 people, potentially a war crime. 855 00:37:59,143 --> 00:38:00,943 You also saw President Assad make a statement 856 00:38:00,945 --> 00:38:06,485 yesterday falsely ascribing blame to the 857 00:38:06,484 --> 00:38:13,154 United States for this increase in violence. 858 00:38:13,157 --> 00:38:16,427 Nothing short of a bald-faced lie. 859 00:38:16,427 --> 00:38:48,027 And then you had the announcement overnight, 860 00:38:48,025 --> 00:38:50,025 East Coast time, of a new offensive by the Syrian 861 00:38:50,027 --> 00:38:51,027 government in Aleppo. 862 00:38:51,028 --> 00:38:53,028 Considering that Russia is the party that is taking 863 00:38:53,030 --> 00:38:55,030 responsibility for ensuring Syrian compliance 864 00:38:55,032 --> 00:38:57,032 with the Cessation of Hostilities, 865 00:38:57,034 --> 00:38:58,004 Russia is culpable. 866 00:38:58,002 --> 00:39:00,002 And if this arrangement has a future, Russia is 867 00:39:00,004 --> 00:39:02,004 going to need to step up and prove it. 868 00:39:02,006 --> 00:39:04,006 And they've got some work to do. 869 00:39:04,008 --> 00:39:05,878 The Press: You've often said that this is a test 870 00:39:05,876 --> 00:39:14,456 of whether or not Russia is willing or able to sort 871 00:39:14,452 --> 00:39:17,392 of have influence on the Syrian regime. 872 00:39:17,388 --> 00:39:20,658 I'm wondering if you've been able to make an 873 00:39:20,658 --> 00:39:22,898 assessment on whether -- since this has basically 874 00:39:22,893 --> 00:39:25,393 broken down, whether they were unwilling, or whether 875 00:39:25,396 --> 00:39:27,266 they were unable, and if you think there's a 876 00:39:27,264 --> 00:39:29,764 difference in terms of White House policy in 877 00:39:29,767 --> 00:39:33,007 terms of whether or not it was one or the other. 878 00:39:33,003 --> 00:39:36,443 Mr. Earnest: Well, listen -- well, that's an 879 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:37,910 interesting question, actually. 880 00:39:37,908 --> 00:39:41,448 I think it is -- I'm not prepared to offer an 881 00:39:41,445 --> 00:39:44,885 assessment in each of these cases whether or not 882 00:39:44,882 --> 00:39:55,162 it was weakness on the part of Russia, where 883 00:39:55,159 --> 00:39:56,829 essentially they were rebuked by the Assad 884 00:39:56,827 --> 00:40:00,227 regime, and despite Russia's warnings, Assad 885 00:40:00,231 --> 00:40:05,541 went ahead and ordered the actions that he did. 886 00:40:05,536 --> 00:40:11,646 Or if Russia failed to clearly communicate to 887 00:40:11,642 --> 00:40:14,012 Assad what their expectations were. 888 00:40:14,011 --> 00:40:18,721 It's too early to tell exactly whether they were 889 00:40:18,716 --> 00:40:20,986 unwilling or unable. 890 00:40:20,985 --> 00:40:23,385 The Press: A third option could be that they were 891 00:40:23,387 --> 00:40:25,157 not being straight with the U.S. 892 00:40:25,156 --> 00:40:28,426 and they see some benefit to having an agreement 893 00:40:28,425 --> 00:40:29,765 with the U.S. 894 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,400 and not fulfilling it on their end. 895 00:40:31,395 --> 00:40:32,295 Is that something that -- 896 00:40:32,296 --> 00:40:33,466 Mr. Earnest: Yes, I guess I would see that. 897 00:40:33,464 --> 00:40:35,464 I would put that in the unwilling category, which 898 00:40:35,466 --> 00:40:38,666 is to say they weren't willing to go to the Assad 899 00:40:38,669 --> 00:40:41,409 regime and actually make them live up to the terms 900 00:40:41,405 --> 00:40:46,715 of the Cessation of Hostilities. 901 00:40:46,710 --> 00:40:48,110 But I guess the question you're asking is: 902 00:40:48,112 --> 00:40:54,382 "Does it matter?" 903 00:40:54,385 --> 00:40:58,385 I guess it's hard to say. 904 00:40:58,389 --> 00:41:01,459 It certainly matters if they're unwilling, right? 905 00:41:01,458 --> 00:41:02,998 Because it certainly does raise significant 906 00:41:02,993 --> 00:41:05,163 questions about their credibility. 907 00:41:05,162 --> 00:41:07,502 If they were unable to, it raises similarly difficult 908 00:41:07,498 --> 00:41:09,698 questions -- because the only reason we're really 909 00:41:09,700 --> 00:41:12,200 having this conversation with the Russians is they 910 00:41:12,203 --> 00:41:14,143 seem to be the only people that we can talk to that 911 00:41:14,138 --> 00:41:18,308 do have any influence over the Assad regime. 912 00:41:18,309 --> 00:41:22,579 And if they don't, then I'm not really sure why we 913 00:41:22,580 --> 00:41:25,820 would continue to talking to them. 914 00:41:25,816 --> 00:41:28,416 Well, again, we're going to have to see how 915 00:41:28,419 --> 00:41:29,619 this plays out. 916 00:41:29,620 --> 00:41:31,490 And when I say how this plays out, we're really 917 00:41:31,488 --> 00:41:35,628 just going to have to see what the Russian response is. 918 00:41:35,626 --> 00:41:37,626 Their credibility is on the line under 919 00:41:37,628 --> 00:41:39,868 either scenario. 920 00:41:39,864 --> 00:41:41,604 And they're going to have to decide -- President 921 00:41:41,599 --> 00:41:44,099 Putin is going to have to decide whether he's 922 00:41:44,101 --> 00:41:45,401 interested in protecting that credibility 923 00:41:45,402 --> 00:41:48,202 in the international community or not. 924 00:41:48,205 --> 00:41:49,405 The Press: One more question on Wells Fargo. 925 00:41:49,406 --> 00:41:54,846 They obviously face about $100 million in fines for 926 00:41:54,845 --> 00:41:58,285 setting up millions of bogus accounts that 927 00:41:58,282 --> 00:41:59,982 customers didn't want. 928 00:41:59,984 --> 00:42:02,224 Now we're hearing from Senator Warren that she 929 00:42:02,219 --> 00:42:04,119 believes the CEO should resign and should 930 00:42:04,121 --> 00:42:05,661 be investigated. 931 00:42:05,656 --> 00:42:07,656 She just sent a letter with eight other senators 932 00:42:07,658 --> 00:42:10,398 saying that Wells Fargo's executive should be 933 00:42:10,394 --> 00:42:13,594 investigated by the Labor Department for potentially 934 00:42:13,597 --> 00:42:15,437 unfair labor practices. 935 00:42:15,432 --> 00:42:17,372 I don't think we've heard from the White 936 00:42:17,368 --> 00:42:18,038 House on this yet. 937 00:42:18,035 --> 00:42:19,975 So I'm just wondering, do you agree with Senator 938 00:42:19,970 --> 00:42:22,410 Warren that the CEO should resign? 939 00:42:22,406 --> 00:42:24,976 Do you think the fines that were put out are 940 00:42:24,975 --> 00:42:26,445 enough of a punishment? 941 00:42:26,443 --> 00:42:28,543 And is the White House going to weigh in any 942 00:42:28,545 --> 00:42:30,315 further on this in the future? 943 00:42:30,314 --> 00:42:34,054 Mr. Earnest: Well, listen, I can't recall an instance 944 00:42:34,051 --> 00:42:37,521 in which I called for the resignation of an 945 00:42:37,521 --> 00:42:41,091 executive at a private company, so that seems a 946 00:42:41,091 --> 00:42:43,191 little outside my purview. 947 00:42:43,193 --> 00:42:45,163 But maybe I'll reserve the right to do that 948 00:42:45,162 --> 00:42:46,092 at some point. 949 00:42:46,096 --> 00:42:48,396 But I can't imagine a scenario in which that 950 00:42:48,399 --> 00:42:50,739 would come up, but we'll see. 951 00:42:50,734 --> 00:42:51,834 I haven't done that before, and I'm not going 952 00:42:51,835 --> 00:42:55,005 to do it in this instance. 953 00:42:55,005 --> 00:43:00,875 With regard to the Department of Labor, I 954 00:43:00,878 --> 00:43:02,748 can't speak to any potential enforcement 955 00:43:02,746 --> 00:43:05,186 action that they may be considering. 956 00:43:05,182 --> 00:43:07,122 Those kinds of enforcement actions are conducted 957 00:43:07,117 --> 00:43:10,417 independent of any sort of White House interference. 958 00:43:10,421 --> 00:43:12,291 And so I certainly don't want to say something that 959 00:43:12,289 --> 00:43:14,529 could lead somebody to conclude that there was 960 00:43:14,525 --> 00:43:17,165 inappropriate White House interference in that 961 00:43:17,161 --> 00:43:20,061 decision, if there is even a decision to be made. 962 00:43:20,064 --> 00:43:22,004 So I'll refer to them. 963 00:43:21,999 --> 00:43:23,739 More generally, though, I do think that this 964 00:43:23,734 --> 00:43:32,544 announcement from the CFPB is strong vindication of 965 00:43:32,543 --> 00:43:35,913 the President's pursuit of tough Wall Street 966 00:43:35,913 --> 00:43:38,413 reform legislation. 967 00:43:38,415 --> 00:43:40,755 Republicans have been foursquare against the 968 00:43:40,751 --> 00:43:45,251 CFPB since the day that it was created. 969 00:43:45,255 --> 00:43:53,135 But the reason that the CFPB was created is that 970 00:43:53,130 --> 00:43:57,430 there previously had not been a financial regulator 971 00:43:57,434 --> 00:44:03,874 dedicated solely to protecting consumers. 972 00:44:03,874 --> 00:44:08,384 The CFPB is the only financial regulator with 973 00:44:08,379 --> 00:44:16,249 the express mission statement to look out for 974 00:44:16,253 --> 00:44:18,853 American middle-class families. 975 00:44:18,856 --> 00:44:23,196 And here it paid off in spades. 976 00:44:23,193 --> 00:44:25,633 You had one of the largest, most influential 977 00:44:25,629 --> 00:44:31,199 financial institutions in the country scamming 978 00:44:31,201 --> 00:44:35,641 people who were trying to set up checking accounts. 979 00:44:35,639 --> 00:44:37,879 And nobody was in a better position to hold them 980 00:44:37,875 --> 00:44:40,675 accountable for that than the CFPB. 981 00:44:40,677 --> 00:44:42,677 And they took action, levying the largest fine 982 00:44:42,679 --> 00:44:46,679 in its history in response to this egregious conduct. 983 00:44:46,683 --> 00:44:48,383 And that means that they're going to be -- the 984 00:44:48,385 --> 00:44:52,355 fine was on the order of $185 million. 985 00:44:52,356 --> 00:44:56,296 And that also -- when you combine that with the 986 00:44:56,293 --> 00:44:58,233 other actions that the CFPB has taken over the 987 00:44:58,228 --> 00:45:00,528 last several years, they've put nearly $12 988 00:45:00,531 --> 00:45:05,541 billion back into the pockets of 27 million 989 00:45:05,536 --> 00:45:08,006 American families that have been harmed by 990 00:45:08,005 --> 00:45:10,045 financial institutions. 991 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:15,080 I think that's a pretty good illustration of the 992 00:45:15,079 --> 00:45:18,579 President making good on his promise to bring 993 00:45:18,582 --> 00:45:20,522 change to Washington and to change business as 994 00:45:20,517 --> 00:45:22,887 usual in Washington, and making sure that there is 995 00:45:22,886 --> 00:45:24,026 somebody in Washington looking out for 996 00:45:24,021 --> 00:45:25,521 middle-class families. 997 00:45:25,522 --> 00:45:28,522 And he took a lot of political heat for making 998 00:45:28,525 --> 00:45:30,425 this a priority too. 999 00:45:30,427 --> 00:45:33,927 We saw millions of dollars in lobbying efforts and 1000 00:45:33,931 --> 00:45:41,001 campaign ads spent by the most influential financial 1001 00:45:41,004 --> 00:45:44,444 institutions in the country to try to block this. 1002 00:45:44,441 --> 00:45:48,711 But the President stood up to them and said no, even 1003 00:45:48,712 --> 00:45:53,352 though those financial institutions have some 1004 00:45:53,350 --> 00:45:55,690 members of Congress in their back pocket -- those 1005 00:45:55,686 --> 00:46:01,696 members of Congress who have repeatedly tried to 1006 00:46:01,692 --> 00:46:04,692 gut funding for the CFPB. 1007 00:46:04,695 --> 00:46:08,095 So this is a good illustration of why the 1008 00:46:08,098 --> 00:46:11,538 President fought so hard for the CFPB, and I think 1009 00:46:11,535 --> 00:46:13,505 it's a pretty strong vindication of his efforts 1010 00:46:13,504 --> 00:46:19,244 and the several million American families that are 1011 00:46:19,243 --> 00:46:21,443 going to get the benefit from it. 1012 00:46:21,445 --> 00:46:22,175 Bob. 1013 00:46:22,179 --> 00:46:24,419 The Press: Yeah, Josh, on the 9/11 bill. 1014 00:46:24,414 --> 00:46:26,814 You keep saying it goes against international 1015 00:46:26,817 --> 00:46:30,117 norms, and there's this somewhat fuzzy area of 1016 00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:31,890 sovereign immunity -- or is it fuzzy? 1017 00:46:31,889 --> 00:46:34,289 Correct me -- 1018 00:46:34,291 --> 00:46:35,221 Mr. Earnest: It's fuzzy to me. 1019 00:46:35,225 --> 00:46:37,165 I'm certainly no expert in international law. 1020 00:46:37,161 --> 00:46:38,731 The Press: Well, that's what I'm asking, I guess. 1021 00:46:38,729 --> 00:46:41,699 Can you say that this would specifically go 1022 00:46:41,698 --> 00:46:44,038 against some kind of international agreement? 1023 00:46:44,034 --> 00:46:48,134 Or is it just an international norm? 1024 00:46:48,138 --> 00:46:53,908 Mr. Earnest: Listen, I have not heard -- as a 1025 00:46:53,911 --> 00:46:56,411 technical matter, no one has made the case to me 1026 00:46:56,413 --> 00:46:59,253 that this is the violation of a specific agreement. 1027 00:46:59,249 --> 00:47:02,219 Maybe it is, and if it is, then I'm sure one of the 1028 00:47:02,219 --> 00:47:04,059 White House lawyers will be appearing at my door 1029 00:47:04,054 --> 00:47:05,724 when I get back to my office to explain it to 1030 00:47:05,722 --> 00:47:09,122 me, in which case I'll explain it to all of you. 1031 00:47:09,126 --> 00:47:11,466 My understanding, however, the way that it's been 1032 00:47:11,461 --> 00:47:17,231 described to me, is that there is a legal concept 1033 00:47:17,234 --> 00:47:20,604 of sovereign immunity that countries around 1034 00:47:20,604 --> 00:47:23,304 the world observe. 1035 00:47:23,307 --> 00:47:25,907 And if the most influential country in the 1036 00:47:25,909 --> 00:47:29,409 world starts carving out exceptions to sovereign 1037 00:47:29,413 --> 00:47:31,813 immunity, then other countries are going to do 1038 00:47:31,815 --> 00:47:33,185 the same thing. 1039 00:47:33,183 --> 00:47:38,793 Now, the problem with that approach is that there's 1040 00:47:38,789 --> 00:47:44,699 no country in the world that has more to lose from 1041 00:47:44,695 --> 00:47:49,035 carving out exceptions to sovereign immunity than 1042 00:47:49,032 --> 00:47:51,732 the United States, given the role that we play 1043 00:47:51,735 --> 00:47:54,705 around the world. 1044 00:47:54,705 --> 00:47:56,975 So that's what the -- that's the concern 1045 00:47:56,974 --> 00:47:57,574 that we have. 1046 00:47:57,574 --> 00:48:02,514 And what that means is it means that there's more 1047 00:48:02,512 --> 00:48:05,852 legal risk that our servicemembers and our 1048 00:48:05,849 --> 00:48:08,719 diplomats and, in some cases, even U.S. 1049 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:13,659 companies face as a result of this action. 1050 00:48:13,657 --> 00:48:20,527 And at a certain level -- and so the concern is, is 1051 00:48:20,530 --> 00:48:22,600 not just the legal risk that they would face, but 1052 00:48:22,599 --> 00:48:26,299 also the significant resources and diplomatic 1053 00:48:26,303 --> 00:48:29,473 capital that the United States government would 1054 00:48:29,473 --> 00:48:32,473 have to spend to defend them. 1055 00:48:32,476 --> 00:48:38,486 So that's the principle that's at stake, and 1056 00:48:38,482 --> 00:48:40,182 that's why the President feels so strongly about this. 1057 00:48:40,183 --> 00:48:41,083 The Press: Is it fuzzy? 1058 00:48:41,084 --> 00:48:43,224 Mr. Earnest: Well, listen, I'm not an attorney, so 1059 00:48:43,220 --> 00:48:45,420 I'm sure that there's -- somebody who is an expert 1060 00:48:45,422 --> 00:48:48,192 in the technical aspects of this law would say that 1061 00:48:48,191 --> 00:48:50,831 the risk that we face is really clear. 1062 00:48:50,827 --> 00:48:54,627 And look, I think in this instance I'd be inclined 1063 00:48:54,631 --> 00:48:56,431 to believe them, because it's not just White House 1064 00:48:56,433 --> 00:48:57,603 lawyers that have reached that conclusion, it's 1065 00:48:57,601 --> 00:48:59,671 lawyers at the European Union that have reached 1066 00:48:59,670 --> 00:49:02,810 that conclusion and it's the top lawyer in the Bush 1067 00:49:02,806 --> 00:49:04,606 administration that has reached that conclusion. 1068 00:49:04,608 --> 00:49:08,008 So this isn't some partisan fight here. 1069 00:49:08,011 --> 00:49:11,211 This is basically a contest between 1070 00:49:11,214 --> 00:49:12,214 politicians that are worried about their 1071 00:49:12,215 --> 00:49:15,815 political standing and experts in national 1072 00:49:15,819 --> 00:49:18,489 security who are focused on the long-term best 1073 00:49:18,488 --> 00:49:20,428 interest of the country. 1074 00:49:20,424 --> 00:49:21,054 The Press: Can I follow up? 1075 00:49:21,058 --> 00:49:22,088 Mr. Earnest: Go ahead, John. 1076 00:49:22,092 --> 00:49:22,822 The Press: Thank you. 1077 00:49:22,826 --> 00:49:25,266 You're familiar with the Foreign Sovereign 1078 00:49:25,262 --> 00:49:26,162 Immunities Act? 1079 00:49:26,163 --> 00:49:28,833 It's a law that was passed -- signed into law in 1080 00:49:28,832 --> 00:49:31,532 1976, signed by Gerald Ford. 1081 00:49:31,535 --> 00:49:33,675 And under the Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act 1082 00:49:33,670 --> 00:49:36,110 there actually is one exception that's carved 1083 00:49:36,106 --> 00:49:39,976 out for suing a foreign government, and that's if 1084 00:49:39,976 --> 00:49:44,886 a foreign state engages in commercial activity. 1085 00:49:44,881 --> 00:49:46,081 Are you familiar with this already? 1086 00:49:46,083 --> 00:49:47,383 Mr. Earnest: I've certainly heard of the 1087 00:49:47,384 --> 00:49:49,724 law, but I'm not familiar with all the 1088 00:49:49,720 --> 00:49:50,720 consequences of it. 1089 00:49:50,721 --> 00:49:51,891 The Press: So there's a carve-out -- there's a 1090 00:49:51,888 --> 00:49:52,688 carve-out that exists right now -- 1091 00:49:52,689 --> 00:49:53,219 Mr. Earnest: Yes. 1092 00:49:53,223 --> 00:49:53,923 The Press: -- under U.S. 1093 00:49:53,924 --> 00:49:56,264 law, and I assume the President has no problem 1094 00:49:56,259 --> 00:49:58,529 with the Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act and the way 1095 00:49:58,528 --> 00:49:59,868 this carve-out exists. 1096 00:49:59,863 --> 00:50:00,993 Is that correct? 1097 00:50:00,997 --> 00:50:01,527 Mr. Earnest: That's correct. 1098 00:50:01,531 --> 00:50:02,971 The President does not have an objection to the 1099 00:50:02,966 --> 00:50:04,036 Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act. 1100 00:50:04,034 --> 00:50:06,374 The concern that the President has is 1101 00:50:06,370 --> 00:50:07,570 carving out another one. 1102 00:50:07,571 --> 00:50:09,411 Carving out additional exceptions only -- 1103 00:50:09,406 --> 00:50:11,876 The Press: This carve-out -- what's wrong with a 1104 00:50:11,875 --> 00:50:18,245 carve-out that would allow an individual to sue a 1105 00:50:18,248 --> 00:50:21,888 foreign state engaged in terrorist activity? 1106 00:50:21,885 --> 00:50:25,125 So you allow it for commercial activity, but 1107 00:50:25,122 --> 00:50:26,492 why not terrorist activity? 1108 00:50:26,490 --> 00:50:27,790 Explain that. 1109 00:50:27,791 --> 00:50:28,761 Mr. Earnest: Well, I think there are a couple of 1110 00:50:28,759 --> 00:50:29,259 things about this. 1111 00:50:29,259 --> 00:50:33,099 The first is, it's just the principle that is at 1112 00:50:33,096 --> 00:50:36,236 risk of further erosion and degradation as a 1113 00:50:36,233 --> 00:50:37,233 result of this bill. 1114 00:50:37,234 --> 00:50:39,804 And again, this is a principle that insulates 1115 00:50:39,803 --> 00:50:41,343 and protects the U.S. 1116 00:50:41,338 --> 00:50:42,338 government, U.S. 1117 00:50:42,339 --> 00:50:43,439 servicemembers, U.S. 1118 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:44,370 diplomats, and U.S. 1119 00:50:44,374 --> 00:50:45,874 companies around the world. 1120 00:50:45,876 --> 00:50:49,116 This is a concept, this is a principle of sovereign 1121 00:50:49,112 --> 00:50:51,552 immunity that is worth protecting because the 1122 00:50:51,548 --> 00:50:53,488 United States benefits more from that principle 1123 00:50:53,483 --> 00:50:56,653 and international regard for that principle than 1124 00:50:56,653 --> 00:50:58,823 any other country in the world. 1125 00:50:58,822 --> 00:51:00,762 Here's the other thing that's important to 1126 00:51:00,757 --> 00:51:05,427 recognize, though, John, which is there already is 1127 00:51:05,429 --> 00:51:10,329 a mechanism for individuals who were 1128 00:51:10,333 --> 00:51:13,173 harmed by state sponsors of terrorism 1129 00:51:13,170 --> 00:51:16,740 to be compensated. 1130 00:51:16,740 --> 00:51:22,650 So there already is a mechanism for victims -- 1131 00:51:22,646 --> 00:51:24,986 The Press: Individuals. 1132 00:51:24,981 --> 00:51:29,021 Mr. Earnest: -- individuals who were 1133 00:51:29,019 --> 00:51:31,659 harmed by state sponsors of terrorism. 1134 00:51:31,655 --> 00:51:34,755 There's already a legal mechanism for seeking that 1135 00:51:34,758 --> 00:51:39,298 kind of compensation. 1136 00:51:39,296 --> 00:51:40,496 The Press: After the Foreign Sovereign 1137 00:51:40,497 --> 00:51:43,797 Immunities Act was signed into law, I don't believe 1138 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,000 there was any rush to the courts all around the 1139 00:51:46,002 --> 00:51:49,972 world -- based upon that one carve-out -- for 1140 00:51:49,973 --> 00:51:51,413 commercial activity that a foreign 1141 00:51:51,408 --> 00:51:53,378 government maintained. 1142 00:51:53,376 --> 00:51:55,246 What makes you think there would be this rush to the 1143 00:51:55,245 --> 00:51:58,015 courts based upon this carve-out as it relates to 1144 00:51:58,014 --> 00:52:00,914 terrorist activity that a foreign government may 1145 00:52:00,917 --> 00:52:02,287 take against U.S. 1146 00:52:02,285 --> 00:52:03,755 citizens on U.S. soil? 1147 00:52:03,753 --> 00:52:04,793 Mr. Earnest: Well, first of all, John, I'll just 1148 00:52:04,788 --> 00:52:07,458 point out that Bashar al-Assad did an interview 1149 00:52:07,457 --> 00:52:09,897 with the Associated Press this week in which he cast 1150 00:52:09,893 --> 00:52:12,933 the kind of allegations that, again, if there were 1151 00:52:12,929 --> 00:52:15,729 these kinds of exceptions in Syria, could put the 1152 00:52:15,732 --> 00:52:17,872 United States at grave legal risk. 1153 00:52:17,868 --> 00:52:20,808 So it's not exactly uncommon for other 1154 00:52:20,804 --> 00:52:24,444 countries to irresponsibly and falsely accuse the 1155 00:52:24,441 --> 00:52:26,241 United States of terrorism. 1156 00:52:26,243 --> 00:52:31,013 The second thing is -- all I can tell you is that 1157 00:52:31,014 --> 00:52:33,314 that is the legal conclusion that the Obama 1158 00:52:33,316 --> 00:52:35,556 administration has reached about the potential 1159 00:52:35,552 --> 00:52:37,522 consequences of this legislation. 1160 00:52:37,521 --> 00:52:40,291 That conclusion was also reached by officials at 1161 00:52:40,290 --> 00:52:41,960 the Europe Union. 1162 00:52:41,958 --> 00:52:44,258 And that legal conclusion was also reached by 1163 00:52:44,261 --> 00:52:46,561 Michael Mukasey, who was the Attorney General for 1164 00:52:46,563 --> 00:52:48,103 President George W. Bush. 1165 00:52:48,098 --> 00:52:50,938 So this isn't a partisan conclusion or a partisan 1166 00:52:50,934 --> 00:52:52,574 analysis that's been put forward. 1167 00:52:52,569 --> 00:52:55,339 This is an analysis that is actually bipartisan in 1168 00:52:55,338 --> 00:53:00,908 nature and has been reached by national 1169 00:53:00,911 --> 00:53:03,211 security experts in both parties. 1170 00:53:03,213 --> 00:53:07,783 Again, I think that's the reason that there is 1171 00:53:07,784 --> 00:53:10,184 sympathy for the case that we're making to individual 1172 00:53:10,186 --> 00:53:11,386 members of Congress. 1173 00:53:11,388 --> 00:53:14,158 The question is, is it actually going to show up 1174 00:53:14,157 --> 00:53:15,257 in the vote count. 1175 00:53:15,258 --> 00:53:16,728 And I don't know if it will. 1176 00:53:16,726 --> 00:53:19,966 The Press: Your example of Bashar al-Assad, does the 1177 00:53:19,963 --> 00:53:22,003 President -- does this government consider him to 1178 00:53:21,998 --> 00:53:24,338 be the legitimate leader of Syria? 1179 00:53:24,334 --> 00:53:26,434 Mr. Earnest: The President believes that Bashar 1180 00:53:26,436 --> 00:53:28,476 al-Assad has lost legitimacy to lead that 1181 00:53:28,471 --> 00:53:32,781 country; that, moving forward, it is impossible 1182 00:53:32,776 --> 00:53:37,176 to imagine the country of Syria coming together and 1183 00:53:37,180 --> 00:53:44,620 being led by a tyrant that has used the military 1184 00:53:44,621 --> 00:53:47,361 might of the country to attack his own people. 1185 00:53:47,357 --> 00:53:50,457 It is impossible for him to have any -- just as a 1186 00:53:50,460 --> 00:53:54,730 practical matter -- setting aside the moral 1187 00:53:54,731 --> 00:53:58,931 questions here, just as a practical matter, there's 1188 00:53:58,935 --> 00:54:04,575 no reasonable prospect that President Assad would 1189 00:54:04,574 --> 00:54:10,544 build, earn, or win the confidence of even a 1190 00:54:10,547 --> 00:54:13,387 majority of the Syrian people. 1191 00:54:13,383 --> 00:54:17,523 The Press: Josh, the Interior Department just 1192 00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,220 finalized a rule today that would clear the way 1193 00:54:20,223 --> 00:54:22,063 for Native Hawaiians to have a 1194 00:54:22,058 --> 00:54:24,198 government-to-government relationship with the 1195 00:54:24,194 --> 00:54:25,764 federal government should they form a 1196 00:54:25,762 --> 00:54:26,692 unified government. 1197 00:54:26,696 --> 00:54:29,596 Could you just explain why the administration is 1198 00:54:29,599 --> 00:54:32,369 pursuing this, and whether the President's own 1199 00:54:32,369 --> 00:54:34,809 childhood and experience in Hawaii influenced the 1200 00:54:34,804 --> 00:54:36,004 approach the administration has taken 1201 00:54:36,006 --> 00:54:37,576 on this issue? 1202 00:54:37,574 --> 00:54:39,274 Mr. Earnest: Well, the President took office 1203 00:54:39,275 --> 00:54:45,245 vowing to strengthen the relationship between the 1204 00:54:45,248 --> 00:54:51,358 United States government and tribal governments 1205 00:54:51,354 --> 00:54:56,194 around the country, including the Native 1206 00:54:56,192 --> 00:54:59,062 Hawaiian population. 1207 00:54:59,062 --> 00:55:02,262 And next week -- I'm jumping ahead here -- but 1208 00:55:02,265 --> 00:55:05,905 next week the White House will convene the Tribal 1209 00:55:05,902 --> 00:55:08,742 Nations Conference here in Washington, D.C. This is 1210 00:55:08,738 --> 00:55:11,008 something that the President has prioritized, 1211 00:55:11,007 --> 00:55:13,977 and he's regularly appeared at this 1212 00:55:13,977 --> 00:55:16,977 conference as a demonstration of the 1213 00:55:16,980 --> 00:55:19,480 priority that he has placed on improved 1214 00:55:19,482 --> 00:55:21,982 relations between the federal government and 1215 00:55:21,985 --> 00:55:26,795 tribal governments. 1216 00:55:26,790 --> 00:55:29,390 The President obviously does have his own personal 1217 00:55:29,392 --> 00:55:37,972 connection to the Native Hawaiian population and 1218 00:55:37,967 --> 00:55:44,807 the rich cultural heritage of the Native Hawaiian people. 1219 00:55:44,808 --> 00:55:46,808 The President got to experience a little of 1220 00:55:46,810 --> 00:55:54,780 that when he traveled to Hawaii a few weeks ago. 1221 00:55:54,784 --> 00:55:59,424 And the President believes that that cultural 1222 00:55:59,422 --> 00:56:02,422 heritage isn't just worthy of our respect, it's also 1223 00:56:02,425 --> 00:56:03,795 worth protecting. 1224 00:56:03,793 --> 00:56:08,633 And that's the reason that, in designating the 1225 00:56:08,631 --> 00:56:16,171 marine monument out there, the policy was careful to 1226 00:56:16,172 --> 00:56:21,942 ensure that local populations could continue 1227 00:56:21,945 --> 00:56:29,315 to engage in their ancient traditions. 1228 00:56:29,319 --> 00:56:34,159 So I think this also -- I would put this in the 1229 00:56:34,157 --> 00:56:36,657 category of the kind of policies the President is 1230 00:56:36,659 --> 00:56:38,459 hopeful the next president will pursue. 1231 00:56:38,461 --> 00:56:40,161 But there's a lot of progress that we've made 1232 00:56:40,163 --> 00:56:43,733 in terms of strengthening the relationship between 1233 00:56:43,733 --> 00:56:45,203 the federal government and a variety of 1234 00:56:45,201 --> 00:56:47,541 tribal governments. 1235 00:56:47,537 --> 00:56:48,467 But there's more work to be done. 1236 00:56:48,471 --> 00:56:50,011 And there certainly is more work to be done in 1237 00:56:50,006 --> 00:56:54,176 terms of supporting and empowering the next 1238 00:56:54,177 --> 00:57:00,047 generation of Native Americans to ensure that 1239 00:57:00,049 --> 00:57:04,459 they've got access to good schools and quality health 1240 00:57:04,454 --> 00:57:09,824 care and the kind of stable home life that so 1241 00:57:09,826 --> 00:57:11,566 many other American kids benefit from. 1242 00:57:11,561 --> 00:57:14,761 And we've made some important progress, making 1243 00:57:14,764 --> 00:57:17,704 investments that would ensure that kind of future 1244 00:57:17,700 --> 00:57:19,000 for native populations. 1245 00:57:19,002 --> 00:57:21,872 But there certainly is more work to be done. 1246 00:57:21,871 --> 00:57:23,171 And the President is hopeful that the next 1247 00:57:23,173 --> 00:57:25,873 president will build on that progress. 1248 00:57:25,875 --> 00:57:27,475 Let's move around. 1249 00:57:27,477 --> 00:57:28,107 Kevin. 1250 00:57:28,111 --> 00:57:28,981 The Press: Thanks, Josh. 1251 00:57:28,978 --> 00:57:30,848 I wanted to ask you about the Assad 1252 00:57:30,847 --> 00:57:32,647 sanctions legislation. 1253 00:57:32,649 --> 00:57:35,619 There are leaders on the Hill who feel like the 1254 00:57:35,618 --> 00:57:37,358 White House is getting in the way of that. 1255 00:57:37,353 --> 00:57:39,093 And given that there is not only no longer a 1256 00:57:39,088 --> 00:57:41,488 ceasefire -- certainly not one that's been consistent 1257 00:57:41,491 --> 00:57:43,861 -- to say nothing of the fact that the President 1258 00:57:43,860 --> 00:57:47,060 himself feels like this is a man who is an 1259 00:57:47,063 --> 00:57:50,803 illegitimate leader in that nation, why would the 1260 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,100 White House stand in the way of such legislation? 1261 00:57:53,102 --> 00:57:54,602 Mr. Earnest: Well, to put it bluntly, Kevin, we 1262 00:57:54,604 --> 00:57:56,444 already have got the authority that we need to 1263 00:57:56,439 --> 00:57:58,439 impose sanctions against the Assad regime if we 1264 00:57:58,441 --> 00:58:00,411 believe that's going to advance our interests in 1265 00:58:00,410 --> 00:58:03,350 that part of the world. 1266 00:58:03,346 --> 00:58:07,186 What recent history has shown is that our 1267 00:58:07,183 --> 00:58:11,723 sanctions strategy is most effective when it is 1268 00:58:11,721 --> 00:58:13,961 closely coordinated and implemented with our 1269 00:58:13,957 --> 00:58:15,957 allies and partners all around the world. 1270 00:58:15,959 --> 00:58:17,959 We were able to apply maximum pressure against 1271 00:58:17,961 --> 00:58:20,831 the Iranians and compel them to come to the 1272 00:58:20,830 --> 00:58:24,070 negotiating table, and ultimately give up the 1273 00:58:24,067 --> 00:58:26,567 most concerning aspects of their nuclear program 1274 00:58:26,569 --> 00:58:30,469 because the United States worked in concert with 1275 00:58:30,473 --> 00:58:32,443 other countries around the world to apply tough 1276 00:58:32,442 --> 00:58:34,082 sanctions against them. 1277 00:58:34,077 --> 00:58:38,447 Unilateral sanctions imposed by the United 1278 00:58:38,448 --> 00:58:41,588 States Congress are not likely to have 1279 00:58:41,584 --> 00:58:43,854 the desired effect. 1280 00:58:43,853 --> 00:58:49,363 So Congress has already given the President broad 1281 00:58:49,359 --> 00:58:51,759 authorities when it comes to imposing sanctions, and 1282 00:58:51,761 --> 00:58:54,531 his administration has not hesitated to use them, but 1283 00:58:54,530 --> 00:58:59,340 we only use them -- or at least we use them most 1284 00:58:59,335 --> 00:59:01,975 effectively when we're able to coordinate those 1285 00:59:01,971 --> 00:59:05,211 activities and that strategy with our 1286 00:59:05,208 --> 00:59:07,548 partners and our allies around the world. 1287 00:59:07,543 --> 00:59:09,043 The Press: Let me push back for just a second, 1288 00:59:09,045 --> 00:59:11,515 though, because I want to read just part of Speaker 1289 00:59:11,514 --> 00:59:13,014 Ryan's remarks yesterday morning. 1290 00:59:13,016 --> 00:59:14,446 You may or may not have had a chance to hear. 1291 00:59:14,450 --> 00:59:16,820 He said, "Listen, this week we learned that the 1292 00:59:16,819 --> 00:59:19,659 Syrian military was complicit in bombing a 1293 00:59:19,656 --> 00:59:21,526 humanitarian aid convoy." You and I talked about 1294 00:59:21,524 --> 00:59:24,164 that this week; it should come as no surprise. 1295 00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:27,430 "At no point has the Assad regime stopped committing 1296 00:59:27,430 --> 00:59:30,370 atrocities against the Syrian people." 1297 00:59:30,366 --> 00:59:32,936 When you have that as a backdrop, you can 1298 00:59:32,936 --> 00:59:34,606 understand why there are leaders who feel very 1299 00:59:34,604 --> 00:59:37,804 forcefully that anything that can be done to punish 1300 00:59:37,807 --> 00:59:42,277 this regime, this lawless regime, is a good thing. 1301 00:59:42,278 --> 00:59:45,648 It's difficult to reconcile that you have 1302 00:59:45,648 --> 00:59:47,448 them thinking that this is something that should move 1303 00:59:47,450 --> 00:59:50,150 forward when you also have a White House that feels 1304 00:59:50,153 --> 00:59:52,853 like we need to do all we can to not only punish 1305 00:59:52,855 --> 00:59:55,625 this specific regime, but do all we can to 1306 00:59:55,625 --> 00:59:56,795 get him out of power. 1307 00:59:56,793 --> 00:59:58,463 Why wouldn't the two sides come together? 1308 00:59:58,461 --> 00:59:59,961 Mr. Earnest: Because what we're looking to do is 1309 00:59:59,963 --> 01:00:01,663 we're looking to maximize the pressure that we can 1310 01:00:01,664 --> 01:00:02,864 apply to the Assad regime. 1311 01:00:02,865 --> 01:00:05,105 And applying unilateral sanctions by the United 1312 01:00:05,101 --> 01:00:06,841 States is not the most effective way for 1313 01:00:06,836 --> 01:00:07,806 us to do that. 1314 01:00:07,804 --> 01:00:09,874 The most effective way for us to do that is to work 1315 01:00:09,872 --> 01:00:11,812 carefully with other governments in the region 1316 01:00:11,808 --> 01:00:14,178 and countries around the world to coordinate our 1317 01:00:14,177 --> 01:00:17,417 sanctions and apply maximum economic pressure 1318 01:00:17,413 --> 01:00:18,353 to the Assad regime. 1319 01:00:18,348 --> 01:00:20,188 That's the approach that we have taken with 1320 01:00:20,183 --> 01:00:21,483 regard to Iran. 1321 01:00:21,484 --> 01:00:23,354 That's the approach that we've taken with regard 1322 01:00:23,353 --> 01:00:24,353 to North Korea. 1323 01:00:24,354 --> 01:00:25,624 That's also the approach that we've taken with 1324 01:00:25,621 --> 01:00:27,061 regard to Russia. 1325 01:00:27,056 --> 01:00:29,626 And there are varying levels of success that 1326 01:00:29,625 --> 01:00:36,065 we've had in each of those instances, but what all of 1327 01:00:36,065 --> 01:00:40,135 them have in common is that the force of our 1328 01:00:40,136 --> 01:00:43,476 sanctions are multiplied when they are implemented 1329 01:00:43,473 --> 01:00:45,543 in coordination with other countries around the world. 1330 01:00:45,541 --> 01:00:47,941 The Press: Let me run back a bit on the CR. 1331 01:00:47,944 --> 01:00:49,944 Did you suggest that the Senate hadn't really 1332 01:00:49,946 --> 01:00:50,876 addressed Flint? 1333 01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,180 Because they actually have. 1334 01:00:53,182 --> 01:00:55,382 Funding for Flint was included in the recently 1335 01:00:55,385 --> 01:00:57,585 passed WRDA bill. 1336 01:00:57,587 --> 01:00:59,557 It passed 95 to 3. 1337 01:00:59,555 --> 01:01:01,325 I'm not sure if you're aware of that. 1338 01:01:01,324 --> 01:01:02,124 Mr. Earnest: I am aware of that. 1339 01:01:02,125 --> 01:01:04,425 But in the current version that the House is working 1340 01:01:04,427 --> 01:01:05,967 on, it's not included in there. 1341 01:01:05,962 --> 01:01:10,832 And I did notice that there is funding in the CR 1342 01:01:10,833 --> 01:01:14,233 that's dedicated to meeting the needs of 1343 01:01:14,237 --> 01:01:18,107 people in places like Louisiana, Texas and 1344 01:01:18,107 --> 01:01:21,707 Maryland who have been victims of flooding. 1345 01:01:21,711 --> 01:01:24,781 The President is obviously supportive of that. 1346 01:01:24,781 --> 01:01:27,851 The administration was among the first to come 1347 01:01:27,850 --> 01:01:30,420 forward and say that we believe Congress should 1348 01:01:30,420 --> 01:01:33,590 act as soon as possible to provide relief to the 1349 01:01:33,589 --> 01:01:34,459 people of Louisiana. 1350 01:01:34,457 --> 01:01:37,327 The President promised that he would fight for 1351 01:01:37,326 --> 01:01:39,296 the people of Louisiana when he visited them in 1352 01:01:39,295 --> 01:01:40,995 the immediate aftermath of that flooding. 1353 01:01:40,997 --> 01:01:42,167 The Press: And he wouldn't forget them. 1354 01:01:42,165 --> 01:01:43,695 Mr. Earnest: And wouldn't forget them, and he hasn't. 1355 01:01:43,699 --> 01:01:45,339 The President made a similar commitment when he 1356 01:01:45,334 --> 01:01:47,074 went to Flint earlier this spring. 1357 01:01:47,070 --> 01:01:49,310 He went to Flint, he visited with people 1358 01:01:49,305 --> 01:01:50,445 in that community. 1359 01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:52,840 And he promised to help them as much as he could 1360 01:01:52,842 --> 01:01:55,012 by providing them the kind of resources that they 1361 01:01:55,011 --> 01:01:58,751 need to address the infrastructure problems 1362 01:01:58,748 --> 01:02:03,488 that have put thousands of kids at a pretty 1363 01:02:03,486 --> 01:02:05,156 significant risk. 1364 01:02:05,154 --> 01:02:08,124 Congress has a responsibility to look out 1365 01:02:08,124 --> 01:02:09,964 for the needs of those kids in Flint just as much 1366 01:02:09,959 --> 01:02:11,159 as they have a responsibility to look out 1367 01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:14,800 for the needs of kids in Louisiana, too. 1368 01:02:14,797 --> 01:02:18,537 So we need to see some congressional attention 1369 01:02:18,534 --> 01:02:19,574 to this issue. 1370 01:02:19,569 --> 01:02:22,509 And look, I know a lot of Democrats are quite 1371 01:02:22,505 --> 01:02:24,075 focused on this issue in Flint. 1372 01:02:24,073 --> 01:02:26,113 It's time for some Republicans to get 1373 01:02:26,109 --> 01:02:28,179 the message, too. 1374 01:02:28,177 --> 01:02:30,717 The Press: Let me -- one more -- or a couple more. 1375 01:02:30,713 --> 01:02:33,183 Gitmo, I know I ask you every week about the 1376 01:02:33,182 --> 01:02:36,052 possibility of, in particular, bulk transfers 1377 01:02:36,052 --> 01:02:38,722 coming up certainly in the days ahead. 1378 01:02:38,721 --> 01:02:40,921 Is there any reason to believe that there will 1379 01:02:40,923 --> 01:02:43,023 now be more transfers in the next week that 1380 01:02:43,025 --> 01:02:45,395 you would announce? 1381 01:02:45,394 --> 01:02:46,494 Mr. Earnest: Nothing I have to announce from 1382 01:02:46,496 --> 01:02:48,336 here, but we'll obviously keep you posted if 1383 01:02:48,331 --> 01:02:50,601 any of those transfers take place. 1384 01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:51,000 The Press: Okay. 1385 01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:52,170 And last, on JASTA. 1386 01:02:52,168 --> 01:02:54,508 I want to run something by you that Jack Quinn said; 1387 01:02:54,504 --> 01:02:57,304 he's an attorney for the victims' families of the 1388 01:02:57,306 --> 01:02:58,976 tragedy of 9/11. 1389 01:02:58,975 --> 01:03:00,615 He says, "It's increasingly apparent that 1390 01:03:00,610 --> 01:03:03,150 these false reciprocity arguments reflect nothing 1391 01:03:03,146 --> 01:03:06,346 more than a desire to protect the Saudis from 1392 01:03:06,349 --> 01:03:08,989 having to answer the legitimate claims of the 1393 01:03:08,985 --> 01:03:11,685 9/11 families whose loved ones were murdered on 1394 01:03:11,687 --> 01:03:14,287 September 11, 2001." 1395 01:03:14,290 --> 01:03:17,860 How sensitive is the President to the notion 1396 01:03:17,860 --> 01:03:22,900 that there is a perception, at minimum, 1397 01:03:22,899 --> 01:03:26,569 that by voting against JASTA, or vetoing JASTA, 1398 01:03:26,569 --> 01:03:32,809 is somehow a nod to the Saudi government and our 1399 01:03:32,808 --> 01:03:34,578 relationship with them? 1400 01:03:34,577 --> 01:03:35,407 Mr. Earnest: Listen, the President has made a 1401 01:03:35,411 --> 01:03:37,581 forceful case and I've made a forceful case that 1402 01:03:37,580 --> 01:03:41,350 our deepest concern is not limited to the impact that 1403 01:03:41,350 --> 01:03:42,690 this bill would have on our relationship 1404 01:03:42,685 --> 01:03:44,285 with Saudi Arabia. 1405 01:03:44,287 --> 01:03:46,157 Our deepest concern is about the impact that this 1406 01:03:46,155 --> 01:03:47,655 bill would have on our relationship with 1407 01:03:47,657 --> 01:03:49,997 countries all around the world. 1408 01:03:49,992 --> 01:03:51,632 The Press: But we don't sponsor terrorism. 1409 01:03:51,627 --> 01:03:52,197 Mr. Earnest: I'm sorry? 1410 01:03:52,195 --> 01:03:54,195 The Press: We don't sponsor terrorism. 1411 01:03:54,197 --> 01:03:55,727 When we're talking about JASTA, it's specifically 1412 01:03:55,731 --> 01:03:59,171 tailored against state sponsors of terror. 1413 01:03:59,168 --> 01:04:00,538 The United States doesn't do that. 1414 01:04:00,536 --> 01:04:02,276 Mr. Earnest: You and I both know that. 1415 01:04:02,271 --> 01:04:04,071 But there are irresponsible people all 1416 01:04:04,073 --> 01:04:05,843 around the world who accuse the United States 1417 01:04:05,841 --> 01:04:08,341 of being complicit in terrorism all the time. 1418 01:04:08,344 --> 01:04:09,884 Bashar al Assad just did an interview with the 1419 01:04:09,879 --> 01:04:12,679 Associated Press two days ago. 1420 01:04:12,682 --> 01:04:14,182 We know that this happens. 1421 01:04:14,183 --> 01:04:15,983 And here's the other part of this, Kevin. 1422 01:04:15,985 --> 01:04:20,025 People like Mr. Quinn stand to make some money 1423 01:04:20,022 --> 01:04:24,062 from these kinds of exceptions being carved out. 1424 01:04:24,060 --> 01:04:26,300 Nothing wrong with that, but we should acknowledge 1425 01:04:26,295 --> 01:04:28,865 the interest that he has in this as well. 1426 01:04:28,864 --> 01:04:29,964 The President's interest is focused on our 1427 01:04:29,966 --> 01:04:31,566 national security. 1428 01:04:31,567 --> 01:04:32,637 The President's interest is making sure we're 1429 01:04:32,635 --> 01:04:35,005 looking out for the safety and security and legal 1430 01:04:35,004 --> 01:04:37,344 risk that could be facing our servicemembers, our 1431 01:04:37,340 --> 01:04:38,840 diplomats, and U.S. 1432 01:04:38,841 --> 01:04:40,611 companies around the world. 1433 01:04:40,610 --> 01:04:42,410 The Press: Last, can you give us a readout on what 1434 01:04:42,411 --> 01:04:44,581 you expect the President to say tomorrow at the 1435 01:04:44,580 --> 01:04:49,020 opening of the African American History Museum? 1436 01:04:49,018 --> 01:04:50,318 Mr. Earnest: Well, listen, the President is quite 1437 01:04:50,319 --> 01:04:53,159 excited about the prospect of appearing at the 1438 01:04:53,155 --> 01:04:56,555 dedication of the new Smithsonian that's 1439 01:04:56,559 --> 01:05:00,259 dedicated to African American history and culture. 1440 01:05:00,263 --> 01:05:02,263 The President and his family had an opportunity 1441 01:05:02,265 --> 01:05:04,705 to get a behind-the-scenes tour of the museum a 1442 01:05:04,700 --> 01:05:06,770 week or two ago. 1443 01:05:06,769 --> 01:05:10,439 And I was just talking to him about what a special 1444 01:05:10,439 --> 01:05:13,009 opportunity that was and how much he enjoyed being 1445 01:05:13,009 --> 01:05:15,209 able to take his family there. 1446 01:05:15,211 --> 01:05:18,851 And he believes it's something that all 1447 01:05:18,848 --> 01:05:20,488 Americans should see. 1448 01:05:20,483 --> 01:05:26,553 The story that African Americans have to tell 1449 01:05:26,555 --> 01:05:32,825 about their history in this country is in line 1450 01:05:32,828 --> 01:05:34,868 with the American story. 1451 01:05:34,864 --> 01:05:36,604 It's an important part of the American story. 1452 01:05:36,599 --> 01:05:42,969 And the President was talking about this in his 1453 01:05:42,972 --> 01:05:44,812 interview last night, and I thought he made a real 1454 01:05:44,807 --> 01:05:48,947 interesting point, which is much of the history 1455 01:05:48,944 --> 01:05:53,654 that's contained in that beautiful new building is 1456 01:05:53,649 --> 01:05:56,189 not ancient history; it's history that took place 1457 01:05:56,185 --> 01:05:59,385 in his lifetime. 1458 01:05:59,388 --> 01:06:02,158 And I think that says two really important things, 1459 01:06:02,158 --> 01:06:05,998 particularly as we're dwelling on -- and 1460 01:06:05,995 --> 01:06:09,295 rightfully focused on -- the situation in Charlotte 1461 01:06:09,298 --> 01:06:11,138 and Tulsa and other communities that have 1462 01:06:11,133 --> 01:06:13,403 encountered some of the distrust between law 1463 01:06:13,402 --> 01:06:18,312 enforcement and African American communities. 1464 01:06:18,307 --> 01:06:23,217 The lesson is simply this: Since that is not ancient 1465 01:06:23,212 --> 01:06:25,252 history, we need to understand that there is a 1466 01:06:25,247 --> 01:06:26,787 legacy that's still very present. 1467 01:06:26,782 --> 01:06:31,352 And I think that can help white Americans understand 1468 01:06:31,354 --> 01:06:34,224 the concerns that many African Americans have. 1469 01:06:34,223 --> 01:06:37,423 At the same time, the fact that this is not ancient 1470 01:06:37,426 --> 01:06:41,166 history is also a great indication of how much 1471 01:06:41,163 --> 01:06:42,803 progress our country has made in a really 1472 01:06:42,798 --> 01:06:44,668 short period of time. 1473 01:06:44,667 --> 01:06:46,207 Some profound changes have happened in this country, 1474 01:06:46,202 --> 01:06:50,072 and those who are advocating and 1475 01:06:50,072 --> 01:06:55,582 demonstrating and protesting should take 1476 01:06:55,578 --> 01:07:00,818 confidence from the progress that was hard won 1477 01:07:00,816 --> 01:07:03,756 by people like John Lewis and others who are 1478 01:07:03,753 --> 01:07:07,523 advocates of civil rights. 1479 01:07:07,523 --> 01:07:11,463 So this is an important -- this museum is important, 1480 01:07:11,460 --> 01:07:13,260 not just to the African American community, but 1481 01:07:13,262 --> 01:07:14,802 it's important to all Americans. 1482 01:07:14,797 --> 01:07:15,927 It says something important about who we are 1483 01:07:15,931 --> 01:07:19,601 and what we can accomplish when we put our minds to it. 1484 01:07:19,602 --> 01:07:22,502 And the President will say it much more eloquently 1485 01:07:22,505 --> 01:07:23,475 tomorrow than I just did. 1486 01:07:23,472 --> 01:07:25,742 But he's got some strong feelings about it, and 1487 01:07:25,741 --> 01:07:27,541 he's looking forward to appearing at the 1488 01:07:27,543 --> 01:07:28,913 dedication tomorrow. 1489 01:07:28,911 --> 01:07:29,711 Lalit. 1490 01:07:29,712 --> 01:07:34,722 The Press: Last week, around 18 Indian soldiers 1491 01:07:34,717 --> 01:07:36,817 were killed in a terrorist attack 1492 01:07:36,819 --> 01:07:41,219 (inaudible) Kashmir. After, they (inaudible) . 1493 01:07:41,223 --> 01:07:44,123 What did the White House think of the 1494 01:07:44,126 --> 01:07:46,166 situation there? 1495 01:07:46,162 --> 01:07:49,662 Mr. Earnest: Well, listen, I've seen some of the 1496 01:07:49,665 --> 01:07:52,105 public reports about this incident. 1497 01:07:52,101 --> 01:07:56,341 Obviously, the United States strongly condemns 1498 01:07:56,338 --> 01:07:58,378 acts of terrorism around the world. 1499 01:07:58,374 --> 01:08:09,854 And we have long urged India and Pakistan to find 1500 01:08:09,852 --> 01:08:12,252 ways to resolve their differences not through 1501 01:08:12,254 --> 01:08:14,324 violence but through diplomacy. 1502 01:08:14,323 --> 01:08:16,163 And over the years, they've made some 1503 01:08:16,158 --> 01:08:23,198 important progress in that pursuit, and we're hopeful 1504 01:08:23,199 --> 01:08:25,739 that they'll be able to continue to make the kind 1505 01:08:25,734 --> 01:08:29,204 of progress that will bring greater stability to 1506 01:08:29,205 --> 01:08:32,945 what is a rather volatile region of the world. 1507 01:08:32,942 --> 01:08:35,012 The Press: Has there been outreach made by the White 1508 01:08:35,010 --> 01:08:37,410 House to the two capitals of -- 1509 01:08:37,413 --> 01:08:39,113 Mr. Earnest: I'm not aware of any specific 1510 01:08:39,114 --> 01:08:42,054 conversations at the White House level. 1511 01:08:42,051 --> 01:08:44,151 I can certainly tell you that the White House is 1512 01:08:44,153 --> 01:08:46,153 aware of this incident. 1513 01:08:46,155 --> 01:08:48,425 But for any contacts with either the Indian or 1514 01:08:48,424 --> 01:08:51,894 Pakistani government, I'd refer you to the 1515 01:08:51,894 --> 01:08:53,094 State Department. 1516 01:08:53,095 --> 01:08:54,335 Jane. 1517 01:08:54,330 --> 01:08:55,560 The Press: Thank you, Josh. 1518 01:08:55,564 --> 01:09:01,704 With regards South Korea issues, yesterday South 1519 01:09:01,704 --> 01:09:05,204 Korean Foreign Minister Yun Byung-se remarked 1520 01:09:05,207 --> 01:09:06,377 at the U.N. 1521 01:09:06,375 --> 01:09:10,015 General Assembly, and Foreign Minister Yun 1522 01:09:10,012 --> 01:09:15,082 suggested its exclusion of North Korea from 1523 01:09:15,084 --> 01:09:18,854 U.N. member states. 1524 01:09:18,854 --> 01:09:20,754 How would you comment on this? 1525 01:09:20,756 --> 01:09:21,526 Mr. Earnest: I'm sorry, can you repeat that 1526 01:09:21,524 --> 01:09:22,794 one more time? 1527 01:09:22,791 --> 01:09:23,491 Just the last part. 1528 01:09:23,492 --> 01:09:27,192 The Press: Foreign Minister Yun suggested the 1529 01:09:27,196 --> 01:09:30,066 exclusion North Korea from U.N. 1530 01:09:30,065 --> 01:09:32,805 member states. 1531 01:09:32,801 --> 01:09:34,101 Mr. Earnest: It's crucial that North Korea -- 1532 01:09:34,103 --> 01:09:39,373 The Press: -- from United Nations member states. 1533 01:09:39,375 --> 01:09:40,645 Mr. Earnest: I see -- it's important for North Korea 1534 01:09:40,643 --> 01:09:42,583 to hear from the United Nations? 1535 01:09:42,578 --> 01:09:43,508 The Press: Yes. 1536 01:09:43,512 --> 01:09:44,752 Mr. Earnest: Was that the statement? 1537 01:09:44,747 --> 01:09:45,517 The Press: Taken out. 1538 01:09:45,514 --> 01:09:47,054 The Press: No, be excluded from. 1539 01:09:47,049 --> 01:09:47,619 The Press: Excluded. 1540 01:09:47,616 --> 01:09:48,246 Mr. Earnest: I see. 1541 01:09:48,250 --> 01:09:50,550 Obviously, I'm unfamiliar with the comments made by 1542 01:09:50,553 --> 01:09:53,693 the Foreign Minister of South Korea yesterday, so 1543 01:09:53,689 --> 01:09:55,389 why don't I take the question and we'll see if 1544 01:09:55,391 --> 01:09:57,561 we can get you a specific answer. 1545 01:09:57,560 --> 01:09:59,530 The Press: Also, another one. 1546 01:09:59,528 --> 01:10:02,328 Is the United States concerned about the North 1547 01:10:02,331 --> 01:10:07,641 Korea as a state sponsor of terror country? 1548 01:10:07,636 --> 01:10:10,606 Mr. Earnest: Well, the United States is certainly 1549 01:10:10,606 --> 01:10:18,146 deeply concerned about the kind of provocations that 1550 01:10:18,147 --> 01:10:20,687 emanate from North Korea. 1551 01:10:20,683 --> 01:10:24,923 And you hear the President on a regular basis express 1552 01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:29,490 his solidarity and our nation's solidarity with 1553 01:10:29,491 --> 01:10:33,931 our allies in South Korea, our allies in Japan who 1554 01:10:33,929 --> 01:10:40,669 are facing the biggest risk from North 1555 01:10:40,669 --> 01:10:44,369 Korea's activities. 1556 01:10:44,373 --> 01:10:47,013 So the United States is resolute in our stance in 1557 01:10:47,009 --> 01:10:49,179 support of our allies, and the United States is 1558 01:10:49,178 --> 01:10:51,178 committed to playing a leading role in the 1559 01:10:51,180 --> 01:10:53,250 international community in working with not just our 1560 01:10:53,248 --> 01:10:55,748 allies but also our partners like Russia and 1561 01:10:55,751 --> 01:10:58,291 China in applying significant pressure on 1562 01:10:58,287 --> 01:11:00,987 North Korea and bringing them into compliance with 1563 01:11:00,990 --> 01:11:02,560 their international obligations and with a 1564 01:11:02,558 --> 01:11:03,928 variety of U.N. 1565 01:11:03,926 --> 01:11:06,726 Security Council resolutions that they 1566 01:11:06,729 --> 01:11:09,829 violate all too frequently. 1567 01:11:09,832 --> 01:11:10,902 Why don't we do the week ahead, and then we'll let 1568 01:11:10,899 --> 01:11:12,999 you get started on your weekend. 1569 01:11:13,002 --> 01:11:14,602 Mark Knoller is not here to snicker at my joke. 1570 01:11:14,603 --> 01:11:19,843 On Monday, the President will host the 2016 White 1571 01:11:19,842 --> 01:11:21,682 House Tribal Nations Conference in Washington, 1572 01:11:21,677 --> 01:11:24,417 D.C. This will be the President's eighth and 1573 01:11:24,413 --> 01:11:27,513 final Tribal Nations Conference, providing 1574 01:11:27,516 --> 01:11:30,116 tribal leaders from the 567 federally recognized 1575 01:11:30,119 --> 01:11:32,359 tribes with the opportunity to interact 1576 01:11:32,354 --> 01:11:34,424 directly with high-level federal government 1577 01:11:34,423 --> 01:11:36,423 officials and members of the White House Council on 1578 01:11:36,425 --> 01:11:38,025 Native American Affairs. 1579 01:11:38,027 --> 01:11:39,557 This year's conference will continue to build 1580 01:11:39,561 --> 01:11:41,361 upon the President's commitment to 1581 01:11:41,363 --> 01:11:43,003 strengthen the government-to-government 1582 01:11:42,998 --> 01:11:44,998 relationship with Indian Country and to improve the 1583 01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:48,240 lives of American Indians and Alaska Natives. 1584 01:11:48,237 --> 01:11:50,077 On Tuesday, the President will participate in 1585 01:11:50,072 --> 01:11:51,412 a DNC roundtable. 1586 01:11:51,407 --> 01:11:53,377 On Wednesday, the President will welcome 1587 01:11:53,375 --> 01:11:55,675 Kyle Bush and his team members to the White House 1588 01:11:55,678 --> 01:11:58,048 to honor his 2015 NASCAR Sprint Cup 1589 01:11:58,047 --> 01:11:59,787 Series championship. 1590 01:11:59,782 --> 01:12:02,652 On Wednesday afternoon, the President will travel 1591 01:12:02,651 --> 01:12:05,821 to Fort Lee in Virginia to meet with servicemembers 1592 01:12:05,821 --> 01:12:07,661 and the post community to thank them for their 1593 01:12:07,656 --> 01:12:09,726 outstanding service to the nation. 1594 01:12:09,725 --> 01:12:11,295 While he's there, the President will tape a CNN 1595 01:12:11,293 --> 01:12:13,763 town hall meeting with Jake Tapper, where he will 1596 01:12:13,762 --> 01:12:15,302 have the opportunity to take questions from 1597 01:12:15,297 --> 01:12:16,897 members of the military community. 1598 01:12:16,899 --> 01:12:19,469 On Thursday, the President and First Lady are looking 1599 01:12:19,468 --> 01:12:21,538 forward to welcoming the 2016 U.S. 1600 01:12:21,537 --> 01:12:24,007 Olympic and Paralympic teams to the White House 1601 01:12:24,006 --> 01:12:26,006 to honor their participation and success 1602 01:12:26,008 --> 01:12:29,748 in this year's Olympic Games in Rio. 1603 01:12:29,745 --> 01:12:31,715 On Friday -- next Friday -- the President will 1604 01:12:31,714 --> 01:12:34,114 travel to a local high school to discuss the 1605 01:12:34,116 --> 01:12:37,216 importance of a high-quality education and 1606 01:12:37,219 --> 01:12:39,289 how the United States must strengthen and reform our 1607 01:12:39,288 --> 01:12:42,158 education system to ensure that our students have the 1608 01:12:42,157 --> 01:12:45,097 tools, skills and support they need to succeed. 1609 01:12:45,094 --> 01:12:46,934 We'll have some additional details about the 1610 01:12:46,929 --> 01:12:51,629 President's visit in the coming days, and hopefully 1611 01:12:51,633 --> 01:12:53,173 we'll even have some more details about the precise 1612 01:12:53,168 --> 01:12:55,638 location of that visit before the end 1613 01:12:55,637 --> 01:12:56,367 of the day today. 1614 01:12:56,371 --> 01:12:57,811 So stay tuned on that. 1615 01:12:57,806 --> 01:13:00,076 But that will be somewhere here in the 1616 01:13:00,075 --> 01:13:02,115 Washington, D.C. area. 1617 01:13:02,111 --> 01:13:03,811 Everybody have a good weekend. 1618 01:13:03,812 --> 01:13:04,312 Take care.