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1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Mr. Gibbs: Good afternoon, or good early evening. I want 2 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 to first apologize for the delay in the events that have occurred over the past couple hours. 3 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 As you all know, declassifying a highly complex document takes some time, and we wanted to 4 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 get that right. You all should have either with you or in your inbox two separate documents 5 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 that were emailed out. The first is a summary of the White House review, which is that declassified 6 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 document that I spoke of a second ago, and secondly, a memo, three-page memo, signed 7 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 just a little while ago by the President on corrective actions that have been ordered. 8 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 We will hear momentarily from two individuals -- Secretary Napolitano from the Department 9 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 of Homeland Security, and John Brennan, Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and 10 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Counterterrorism. After they speak, we will spend about half an hour or so taking your 11 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 questions. I know many of you all have deadlines, so if you need to sneak out of here, that 12 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 is certainly fine to do. And we will hear first from John. 13 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Mr. Brennan: Thank you, Robert. Good evening, everyone. 14 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 As the President said today, following the attempted terrorist attack on Christmas Day, 15 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 he directed me to conduct an immediate review of the watchlisting system that our nation 16 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 uses to prevent known or suspected terrorists from entering our country. He also directed 17 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 key departments and agencies to provide their input to this review, and I want to commend 18 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Secretary Napolitano, Director of National Intelligence Blair, and other leaders of the 19 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 intelligence community for their cooperation, candor, and support. Now, let me say that 20 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 every department and organization provided the information that was needed. That speaks 21 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 to the seriousness with which this administration takes what happened on Christmas. It also 22 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 speaks to our urgency and determination to make sure that this does not happen again. 23 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 The review had three primary goals: to get the facts to find out what happened, to identify 24 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 the failures and shortcomings of what went wrong, and to make recommendations on corrective 25 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 action so we can fix the problems. And I want to address each of these areas. First, the 26 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 facts. As the President has described in his public remarks, in the weeks and months leading 27 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 up to the Christmas attack, various components of our intelligence community had fragments 28 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 of information about the strategic threat posed by al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, 29 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 or AQAP, and the specific plot of Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab. It was known that AQAP not 30 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 only sought to strike U.S. targets in Yemen, as they had when they attacked our embassy 31 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 in San'a in 2008, but that it also sought to strike the U.S. homeland. Indeed, there 32 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 was a threat stream of intelligence on this threat. It was known, thanks to the warnings 33 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 of his father in November, that Abdulmutallab had developed extremist views, and his father 34 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 feared he had joined unidentified extremists. And, as the summary points out, there was 35 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 information about an individual now believed to be Mr. Abdulmutallab and his association 36 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 with al Qaeda. These are among the fragments of intelligence that were available in the 37 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 intelligence community on Christmas Eve, before Abdulmutallab ever boarded the aircraft in 38 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Amsterdam. Of course, the central question is, given the fragments of intelligence we 39 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 did know, why weren't they integrated and pieced together in a way that would have uncovered 40 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 and disrupted the plot? That leads to the second line of inquiry: What went wrong? As 41 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 the President described, this was not the failure of a single individual or a single 42 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 organization. Yes, there were some human errors, but those errors were not the primary or fundamental 43 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 cause of what happened on December 25th. Rather, this was a systemic failure across agencies 44 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 and across organizations. I want to be very clear about this, because there's been some 45 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 confusion out there. In recent days, it's been widely reported that we saw the same 46 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 failures before 9/11 or the same failure to share information, and after eight years, 47 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 why hasn't this been fixed. Before 9/11, there was often reluctance or refusal to share information 48 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 between departments and agencies. As a result, different agencies and analysts across agencies 49 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 were at times denied access to the critical information that could have stopped the tragic 50 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 9/11 attacks. And over the past eight years, those issues have largely been resolved. That 51 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 is not what happened here. This was not a failure to share information. In fact, our 52 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 review found the intelligence agencies and analysts had the information they needed. 53 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 No agency or individual was denied access to that information. So as the President has 54 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 said, this was not a failure to collect or share intelligence. It was a failure to connect 55 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 and integrate and understand the intelligence we had. We didn't follow up and prioritize 56 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 the stream of intelligence indicating that al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula sought to 57 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 strike our homeland because no one intelligence entity or team or task force was assigned 58 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 responsibility for doing that follow-up investigation. The intelligence fell through the cracks. 59 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 This happened in more than one organization. This contributed to the larger failure to 60 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 connect the fragments of intelligence that could have revealed the plot, Abdulmutallab's 61 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 extremist views, AQAP's involvement with a Nigerian, its desire to strike the U.S. homeland. 62 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 This in turn fed into shortcomings in the watchlisting system, both human and technological, 63 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 which resulted in Abdulmutallab not being placed on the watchlist, thereby allowing 64 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 him to board a plane in Amsterdam for Detroit. And while the watchlisting system is not broken, 65 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 how the intelligence community feeds information into that system clearly needs to be strengthened. 66 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Which brings us to the recommendations: How do we fix the problem? Today the President 67 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 is issuing a directive to all the relevant agencies on the corrective actions he has 68 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 decided on. There are more than a dozen corrective steps altogether, and each is assigned to 69 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 an agency that is now responsible for their implementation. As the President said, they 70 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 fall into four broad areas. First, he is directing that our intelligence community immediately 71 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 begin assigning responsibility for investigating all leads on high-priority threats so that 72 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 these leads are pursued and acted upon aggressively so that plots are destructed. Second, he's 73 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 directing that intelligence reports, especially those involving potential threats to the United 74 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 States, be distributed more rapidly and more widely. Third, he's directing that we strengthen 75 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 the analytic process. Director of National Intelligence Blair will take the lead in improving 76 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 day-to-day efforts. The President's Intelligence Advisory Board will examine the longer-term 77 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 challenge of identifying and analyzing intelligence among the increasingly vast universe of intelligence 78 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 that we collect. That challenge dealing with the volumes of information is growing every 79 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 day. Finally, the President is ordering an immediate effort to strengthen the criteria 80 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 used to add individuals to our terrorist watchlists, especially the "no fly" list, so that we do 81 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 a better job keeping dangerous people off airplanes. The President said he is going 82 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 to hold all of us -- his staff, his national security team, their agencies -- accountable 83 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 for implementing these reforms. The national security staff is going to monitor their progress. 84 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 The President has directed me to report back on the progress within 30 days and on a regular 85 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 basis after that, and I will do so. Taken together, these reforms are going to improve 86 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 the intelligence community's ability to do its job even better -- to collect, share, 87 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 integrate, analyze, and act on intelligence swiftly and effectively to protect our country. 88 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 And finally, I want to say that in every instance over the past year the intelligence community, 89 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 the homeland security community, the law enforcement community has done an absolutely outstanding 90 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 and stellar job in protecting this homeland and disrupting plots that have been directed 91 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 against us. It was in this one instance that we did not rise to that same level of competence 92 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 and success. And therefore, the President has told us that we must do better. I told 93 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 the President today I let him down. I am the President's assistant for homeland security 94 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 and counterterrorism. And I told him that I will do better and we will do better as 95 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 a team. Thank you. Secretary Napolitano: 96 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Thank you. I want to update all of you on the actions the Department of Homeland Security 97 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 took immediately following the failed Christmas Day attack and the longer-term recommendations 98 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 that DHS made to the President in our preliminary report. These recommendations lay out how 99 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 we will move forward in a number of areas that are critical in our efforts to protect 100 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 air travel from terrorism. As many have already experienced, we have immediately strengthened 101 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 screening requirements for individuals flying to the United States. Every individual flying 102 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 to the United States from anywhere in the world who has an itinerary or passport from 103 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 nations that are state sponsors of terrorism or countries of interest is required to go 104 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 through enhanced screening. In addition, the majority of all other passengers on United 105 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 States-bound international flights will go through random threat-based enhanced screening. 106 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 At airports throughout the United States, we have deployed additional airport law enforcement 107 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 officials, behavior-detection officers, air marshals, and explosive-detection canine teams, 108 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 among other security measures, both seen and unseen. I want to express our thanks to the 109 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 traveling public for their patience with these security measures. And I want to thank as 110 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 well the Department of Homeland Security personnel who have been engaged on a day-in, day-out 111 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 basis to implement them since Christmas. Today I would like to describe to you five of the 112 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 recommendations that are included in our report to the President. First, there needs to be 113 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 a reevaluation and modification of the criteria and process used to create the terrorist watchlists. 114 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 This will involve the Department of Homeland Security and other members of the intelligence 115 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 community. Specifically the effort will include evaluating the process by which names are 116 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 put on the "no fly" and selectee lists. Let me pause here a moment to say that the Department 117 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 of Homeland Security works day in and day out with the NCTC and with other members of 118 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 the intelligence community. These are dedicated men and women. All of them are dedicated to 119 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 the safety of the United States. Here, as John has indicated, we simply had a systemic 120 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 failure. Now, DHS, as you know, uses the lists as the cornerstone of our efforts to prevent 121 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 suspected terrorists from boarding airplanes bound for the United States. Second, we will 122 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 establish a partnership on aviation screening technology between DHS and the Department 123 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 of Energy and its national laboratories. This will allow government to use the expertise 124 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 that the national labs have to develop new and more effective technologies, so that we 125 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 can react not only to known threats, but also to proactively anticipate new ways by which 126 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 terrorists could seek to board our aircraft. Third, we should accelerate deployment of 127 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 advanced imaging technologies, so that we have greater capabilities to detect explosives 128 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 like the ones used in the Christmas Day attack. We currently have 40 machines deployed throughout 129 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 the United States. In 2010, we are already scheduled to deploy 300 more. We may deploy 130 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 more than that. But the TSA does not conduct screening overseas, and the Christmas Day 131 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 incident underscored that the screening procedures at foreign airports are critical to our safety 132 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 here in the United States. Therefore, we have to do all that we can do to encourage foreign 133 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 authorities to utilize the same enhanced technologies for aviation security. After all, there were 134 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 passengers from 17 countries aboard Flight 253. This is an international issue, not just 135 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 one about the United States. Fourth, we have to strengthen the presence and capacity of 136 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 aviation law enforcement on top of the measures we have already taken. This includes increasing 137 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 the number of federal air marshals. And we will begin by deploying law enforcement officers 138 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 from across the Department of Homeland Security to help fulfill this important role. And, 139 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 fifth, working with the Secretary of State, we need to strengthen international security 140 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 measures and standards for aviation security. Security measures abroad affect our security 141 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 here at home. The Deputy Secretary of DHS and other top officials from my department 142 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 have for the last several days been on a multi-country, multi-continent mission meeting with top transportation 143 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 and airport officials, discussing ways to increase cooperation and security. Later this 144 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 month, I'll be traveling to Spain to meet with my European counterparts for what will 145 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 be the first in a series of meetings with counterparts that I believe will lead to a 146 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 broad consensus on new international aviation security standards and procedures. These five 147 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 recommendations that I have just described are important areas where DHS and other federal 148 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 agencies are moving quickly to address concerns revealed by the attempted attack. Added to 149 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 the intelligence review also underway that John Brennan just described, these are changes 150 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 that will help us prevent another attack from ever advancing as far as the one did on Christmas 151 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Day. Thank you. Mr. Gibbs: 152 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Yes, ma'am. The Press: 153 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 The President talked about using enhanced screening technologies. Does he intend to 154 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 deploy the body imaging systems as the primary method of screening for all airports across 155 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 the country? Is that the goal? Secretary Napolitano: 156 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 I think we look at security as a system of layers. It is advanced screening technology; 157 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 it is the magnetometers with which people are so familiar; it's explosive detection 158 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 technology; it is canines, an increased use of canines; it's behavior-detection officers; 159 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 it's increased law enforcement presence, both uniformed and undercover. It's that series 160 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 of layers that we will be adding to the security we already have at our domestic airports in 161 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 the wake of this instance. The Press: 162 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Following up on that, you said that 300 additional of these scanners will be deployed in 2010. 163 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Was that planned before this event? And you said more may be developed -- more may be 164 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 deployed on top of that. How many more, and how much will that cost? 165 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Secretary Napolitano: The answer is it was planned before this 166 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 -- it was already in funding that the Congress had appropriated for the TSA. With respect 167 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 to how many more need to be done, we will be working on that as part of our ongoing 168 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 review as to how many are needed. But again, I would caution you not to focus solely on 169 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 that technology. As I just explained to Elaine, this is a series of layers that we deploy 170 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 and will be enhancing their deployment of at domestic airports. 171 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 The Press: Just one follow-up, Robert, if I can. Both 172 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 of you and the President also mentioned the word "accountability," and all three of you 173 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 have made a point that it was several agencies and not just one person. But if there are 174 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 several people in several agencies, who's being held accountable now? 175 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Mr. Gibbs: Well, Jeff, I think as you heard the President 176 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 now on a number of occasions, including today, take responsibility for the system that we 177 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 have right now. That's what led the President to ask these two individuals to conduct reviews, 178 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 to seek where we fell down and how we can plug those holes. Our focus right now and 179 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 the President's focus is on the timely completion of that review and to implement his directive 180 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 for corrective action as quickly as possible. We don't have any announcements other than 181 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 that today. As you have heard the President say, the buck stops with him. But the team 182 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 understands that what John started is a dynamic process -- and we talked about that in here 183 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 I think yesterday -- that will continue over the course of the next 30 days, and then long 184 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 after that, to ensure that what has been outlined by all these different agencies in acknowledging 185 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 their responsibility for the attack -- they've acknowledged that they'll take the corrective 186 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 action that's necessary. I would also mention the billion dollars the President mentioned 187 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 in his remarks about technology was contained in the Recovery Act. Dan. 188 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 The Press: To Mr. Brennan, the President kept referring 189 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 to -- certainly at one point he referred to him as a "known terrorist." It's my understanding 190 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 he was a known extremist. Was he a known terrorist? And to both of you, what was the most shocking, 191 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 stunning thing that you believe came out of the reviews? 192 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Mr. Brennan: As far as being a known terrorist, we knew 193 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 that Mr. Abdulmutallab had departed from Nigeria and was in Yemen associating with extremists. 194 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 This came directly from his father. So you're right. We knew from that stream of information 195 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 that he was extremist and had those radical tendencies. The rest of the intelligence indicated 196 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 that this plot was underway. We did not map up the two, that intelligence about this individual 197 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 who was a terrorist, who was in fact a Nigerian, with Mr. Abdulmutallab. So what we knew about 198 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 him, the person -- an extremist -- what we knew about this other plot developing, and 199 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 the individual involved in that was in fact a terrorist. 200 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 The Press: So he's a known alleged terrorist now after 201 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 the fact, a know extremist at the time? Mr. Brennan: 202 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 He's a terrorist now. The Press: 203 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 What was the most shocking, stunning thing that you found out of the review? And, Secretary, 204 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 to you, as well. Mr. Brennan: 205 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula is an extension of al Qaeda core coming out of Pakistan. And, 206 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 in my view, it is one of the most lethal and one of the most concerning of it. The fact 207 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 that they had moved forward to try to execute this attack against the homeland I think demonstrated 208 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 to us -- and this is what the review sort of uncovered -- that we had a strategic sense 209 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 of sort of where they were going, but we didn't know they had progressed to the point of actually 210 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 launching individuals here. And we have taken that lesson, and so now we're full on top 211 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 of it. Secretary Napolitano: 212 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 I think, following up on that, not just the determination of al Qaeda and al Qaeda Arabian 213 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Peninsula, but the tactic of using an individual to foment an attack, as opposed to a large 214 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 conspiracy or a multi-person conspiracy such as we saw in 9/11, that is something that 215 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 affects intelligence. It really emphasizes now the renewed importance on how different 216 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 intelligence is integrated and analyzed, and threat streams are followed through. And, 217 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 again, it will impact how we continue to review the need to improve airport security around 218 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 the world. Mr. Gibbs: 219 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Helen. The Press: 220 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Was there an outside contractor used or security in Amsterdam? And also, what is really lacking 221 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 always for us is you don't give the motivation of why they want to do us harm. 222 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Mr. Gibbs: Why don't you take the first part, and then, 223 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 John, you can address the second. Secretary Napolitano: 224 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 The screening at Schiphol Airport was done by Dutch authorities. And they did the screening 225 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 that was described to you earlier this afternoon. The hand luggage was screened, the passport 226 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 was checked, he went through a magnetometer. But it was done by Dutch authorities. 227 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 The Press: And what is the motivation? We never hear 228 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 what you find out on why. Mr. Brennan: 229 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Al Qaeda is an organization that is dedicated to murder and wanton slaughter of innocents. 230 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 What they have done over the past decade and a half, two decades, is to attract individuals 231 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 like Mr. Abdulmutallab and use them for these types of attacks. He was motivated by a sense 232 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 of religious sort of drive. Unfortunately, al Qaeda has perverted Islam, and has corrupted 233 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 the concept of Islam, so that he's able to attract these individuals. But al Qaeda has 234 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 the agenda of destruction and death. The Press: 235 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 And you're saying it's because of religion? Mr. Brennan: 236 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 I'm saying it's because of an al Qaeda organization that uses the banner of religion in a very 237 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 perverse and corrupt way. The Press: 238 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Why? Mr. Brennan: 239 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 I think this is a -- this is a long issue, but al Qaeda is just determined to carry out 240 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 attacks here against the homeland. The Press: 241 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 But you haven't explained why. The Press: 242 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Can we clear up a couple of things, either one of you? First of all, what was learned 243 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 while the flight was underway? There have been a couple of stories suggesting that additional 244 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 information came to light after the flight took off, and that Mr. Abdulmutallab was going 245 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 to be questioned when he arrived. That's one. Secretary Napolitano: 246 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Why don't I answer that one? In Schiphol, his name did not appear on any terrorist screening 247 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 watchlist. And so nothing pinged to keep him off of the plane. While in the air, Customs 248 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 in Detroit has access to the entire TIDE database, and as we now all know that's the large mega-database; 249 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 it has 500,000-plus names in it. And they knew he had a ping there, and so they were 250 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 ready, when he landed in Detroit, to question him about that -- that ping against the TIDE 251 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 database. The Press: 252 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Before the attack? Secretary Napolitano: 253 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 But the terrorist watchlist -- but the terrorist watchlist, the terrorist screening watchlist 254 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 did not have his name on it. The Press: 255 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 The other question is, why was Director Leiter allowed to take leave after the incident on 256 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 December 22nd? Mr. Brennan: 257 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 I'll take that issue. When the incident occurred on Christmas Day, a number of people came 258 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 in to their offices and focused on it immediately. I was in constant contact with Mike Leiter 259 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 throughout the afternoon, throughout the evening. Mike Leiter raised with me that he was in 260 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 fact scheduled to go on leave to meet his son, and he asked me whether or not he should 261 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 cancel that trip. I asked Mike about whether or not he had a full complement of folks and 262 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 his deputy was going to be in place. Mike said he did. And I said, Mike, no, you deserve 263 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 this vacation, you need to be with your son, so I was the one who told him he should go 264 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 out there. The events that took place on December 25th -- our review has looked at what transpired 265 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 before then. Since then I think we have all sort of recognized that the government, the 266 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 intelligence community, the homeland security community, has worked seamlessly well. And 267 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 we were in constant contact with one another throughout the period and the week after the 268 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 attack. The Press: 269 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 First question, when did we first -- for Mr. Brennan -- when did we first know that AQAP 270 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 had intentions to strike the U.S. homeland? How early? 271 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Mr. Brennan: In the intelligence that we have acquired, 272 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 over the past several years it's been rather aspirational. It has said things, it has promoted 273 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 a certain view as far as bringing the fight to us, but all of their activities, at least 274 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 that we were focused on, were happening in Yemen. They carried attacks against Prince 275 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Mohammed bin Nayef in Saudi Arabia, against Saudi targets, inside of Yemen, against Yemeni 276 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 as well as against U.S. targets. So it was aspirational. We saw that there was this mounting 277 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 sort of drumbeat of interest in trying to get individuals to carry out attacks. That 278 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 was the fragmentary information. And so in hindsight now -- and 20/20 hindsight always 279 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 gives you much better opportunity to see it -- we saw the plot was developing, but at 280 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 the time we did not know in fact that they were talking about sending Mr. Abdulmutallab 281 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 to the United States. The Press: 282 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Can I just ask you just one follow-up? I just -- your first recommendation is to assign 283 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 responsibility on all leads that are high priority. And it just seems like that would 284 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 be the basic premise of any intelligence system. It seems so fundamental. I'm sure people wonder, 285 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 really, that's the reform we need? Mr. Brennan: 286 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 What we've done so far since 9/11 is to really help to distribute information throughout 287 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 the community -- increase capability throughout. There are a lot of different organizations 288 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 involved. I think what we're trying to do is to make sure that as these threads develop 289 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 -- and there are so many of them -- that it's clearly understood who has the lead on 290 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 it. Because most times, CIA, DHS, FBI, NTCT and others are working it. What we want to 291 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 do is to make sure that for each one of these threads there's a lead and they're going to 292 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 make sure that it moves forward. The Press: 293 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Mr. Brennan, you mentioned the problems of intelligence-sharing before 9/11. But after 294 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 9/11, when the 9/11 Commission Report came out, it was all about connecting the dots. 295 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 And at that time there was a pledge by the intelligence community to do better on connecting 296 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 the dots. And I'm wondering why, from that -- not from the pre-9/11 but from the post-9/11 297 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Commission standpoint -- why dots weren't connected. And when you say you're going to 298 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 improve analysis, how is it going to happen this time when it didn't happen that time? 299 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Mr. Brennan: Second point first. Analysis has, in fact, 300 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 improved steadily. As I said, we have an amazing track record here within the United States, 301 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 the intelligence community across the board, as far as identifying these plots early, disrupting 302 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 them, thwarting them, and preventing those types of attacks -- in every instance. So 303 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 what we want to do is to make sure that we even raise that game even higher. As far as 304 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 information-sharing and those dots, in the past, before 9/11, you had dots in separate 305 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 databases that were separated from one another and were not connected from a network standpoint. 306 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Also you had a husbanding of those dots by individual agencies and departments. We don't 307 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 have that anymore. There's better interoperability. There's better accesses. More places have 308 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 access to more of those dots that come in. And so that's the challenge, is making sure 309 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 that we can leverage the access to those dots so we can bring it up and identify all of 310 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 these threats. The Press: 311 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Madam Secretary, you mentioned -- the President mentioned major investments forthcoming. There's 312 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 already a billion dollars in the stimulus. Can we expect more investments beyond that 313 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 billion dollars? And how will that be paid for? There are talks about raising airline 314 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 security fees to cover some of these costs. Secretary Napolitano: 315 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Oh, I think it's premature to make those statements right now. I think that's part of the ongoing 316 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 review that we'll undertake as the -- in the coming days and the coming weeks. 317 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 The Press: But the major investment will be more than 318 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 the billion in the stimulus? There's more money that will likely be requested beyond? 319 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Secretary Napolitano: Like I said, I think it's premature to put 320 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 a number on it, but I will say that as part of our review we will be making ongoing recommendations 321 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 to the President about what needs to do with domestic airports. But don't lose sight of 322 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 the fact, he was screened at an international airport and it's the international air environment 323 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 that we also need to work on. And that's why we have undertaken this very rapid reach-out 324 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 around the globe to say, look, this is an international issue; this affects the traveling 325 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 public of people in countries around the world, their safety. These terrorists don't discriminate 326 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 when they get ready to take down a plane. And so that's a very important part of the 327 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 ongoing process as well. The Press: 328 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Robert, might we be able to ask non-terror-related questions at the end of this time? 329 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Mr. Gibbs: If there's time I'm sure we can get some. 330 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 The Press: Mr. Brennan, I want to pick up on something 331 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 that General Jones said in his interview with USA Today. He referred to the Fort Hood massacre 332 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 as strike one, and I'm curious if you can explain the to American public why things 333 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 that were learned after Fort Hood -- Yemen, a cleric who has quite a visible role in advocating 334 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 for terrorism -- didn't create within the intelligence community and the larger apparatus 335 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 a higher sensitivity to the kinds of things also visible in the Abdulmutallab case. And 336 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 how much does that disturb you? And secondarily, were you personally briefed, sir, by the prince 337 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 on counterterrorism in Saudi about the possibility of explosives being hidden in garments or 338 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 clothing, and did that get communicated down the system as well? 339 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Mr. Brennan: On the issue of Mr. Awlaki, yes, we were very 340 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 concerned after the Fort Hood shooting about what else he might be doing here. And that's 341 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 why there was a very determined and concerted effort after that to take a look at what else 342 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 he might be trying to accomplish here in the homeland. Now, remember, Mr. Abdulmutallab 343 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 was a much different story in terms of a Nigerian who traveled to Yemen and then came over here. 344 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 But what it clearly indicates is that there is a seriousness of purpose on the part of 345 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula to carry out attacks here in the United States -- 346 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 whether they're reaching people through the Internet, or whether or not, in fact, they 347 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 are sending people abroad. The Press: 348 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Are you satisfied that the intelligence community sort of rose up and responded to what it learned 349 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 about Fort Hood in a way that worked or didn't work -- 350 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Mr. Brennan: Absolutely. I think we've already taken those 351 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 corrective steps. That's one of the things -- I might want to just pause here and say 352 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 -- President Obama has directed several reviews of incidents, Fort Hood as well as this. This 353 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 one has been completed -- a preliminary report -- within two weeks' time. Lightning speed, 354 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 in my three decades within the U.S. government, as far as being able to bring an issue all 355 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 the way through to have reports so we can take corrective action as soon as possible. 356 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 We've already done that with the Fort Hood report. We're all -- instituting those changes. 357 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 We're doing that here. This is going to be the start of a process. But within two weeks' 358 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 time we've been able to identify, diagnose, and now take corrective steps so that we can 359 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 ensure that this is not going to -- The Press: 360 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 And the Saudi prince? Mr. Brennan: 361 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Yes, I was. I went out to Saudi Arabia a week after that attack, was able to work with the 362 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 prince, see the place where -- the room where the attack took place; talked about the explosives 363 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 that were used in that and the concerns about it -- and we had serious concerns about it. 364 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 That was an assassination attempt. And we're continuing to work with the Saudis and others 365 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 about these types of techniques that are being used by al Qaeda. And I think as Secretary 366 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Napolitano said, what we're trying to do is to stay a step ahead. Obviously they are looking 367 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 at all these different types of techniques so they can defeat our security perimeter, 368 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 so what we need to do is continue to advance and evolve. And that's what we're doing. 369 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 The Press: Mr. Brennan, do you have any concern that 370 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 the nation's national security apparatus is being overwhelmed by the sheer volume of information 371 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 it takes in? Are you confident that you can keep up with just the volume of stuff that 372 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 you -- Mr. Brennan: 373 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 I think the national security record, particularly on the counterterrorism front, is superb 374 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 -- what this country has been able to do, what the counterterrorism community has been 375 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 able to do with the increasing amount of information and the collection systems that have come 376 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 in. In fact, I think you see that what happened last month in Yemen, with our very good counterterrorism 377 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 partner in Yemen, was able to actually address the growing threat of al Qaeda there, because 378 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 of the tremendous ability for us to be able to collect information and use it swiftly. 379 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 So I think the national security establishment is well served by the changes that have taken 380 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 place over the last half-dozen years, as well as what we're trying to do here in this administration 381 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 to make sure that we're able to use the information that exists within the different datasets 382 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 to address our national security priorities. The Press: 383 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Mr. Brennan, you said that one of the most alarming things that you found was the strength 384 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 of this al Qaeda cell in Yemen. What else is it capable of did your review find or do 385 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 you believe? Mr. Brennan: 386 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Well, as I said, they have taken a number of different paths to try to carry out an 387 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 attack. That attack against Prince Mohammed bin Nayef, a suicide bomber concealed within 388 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 his clothes an explosive device that in fact was very similar to the one that was used 389 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 by Mr. Abdulmutallab. They're also, though, carrying out attacks against hard structures 390 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 like the embassy, our embassy in San'a in 2008. So there's a diversity there, but there's 391 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 also several hundred al Qaeda members within Yemen. And what we need to do is continue 392 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 to work very closely with our Yemeni partners and other international partners to make sure 393 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 that we're able to drive al Qaeda down within Yemen -- because they do present a serious 394 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 threat there, but also abroad. The Press: 395 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Why should this have been such a surprise, though, sir? Why should this have been such 396 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 a surprise? Mr. Brennan: 397 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 What I'm saying is that where they were able to bring a person into that execution phase 398 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 and actually put them on an airport [sic] coming here to the United States -- I would 399 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 say that was one of the failures, as far as we saw that this increased activity was taking 400 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 place, but we were not focused enough on making sure that we were able to identify whoever 401 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 was going to be used to carry out that type of attack. 402 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 The Press: Have you learned anything that would suggest 403 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 that this terror suspect specifically chose Detroit perhaps to send a message to the large 404 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Arab American population there? And on that point, when the President today talked about 405 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 his concern about lone recruits being attracted to al Qaeda and their messaging, he talked 406 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 about wanting to have some special efforts to break those kinds of -- that kind of appeal. 407 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Is there anything that you'll be doing specifically in an area like southeastern Michigan that 408 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 has a very large Arab American and Muslim population? 409 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Secretary Napolitano: The Department of Homeland Security has had 410 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 outreach efforts into different populations, Muslim American populations, Somali communities 411 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 across the United States over the last years, trying to build bridges so that there's good 412 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 communication between us, even in the face of those who would distort a religion for 413 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 terrorist purposes. We need to look at strengthening those activities. We also need to look at 414 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 the whole issue of what is called counter-radicalization: How do we identify someone before they become 415 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 radicalized to the point where they're ready to blow themselves up with others on a plane? 416 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 And how do we communicate better American values and so forth in this country but also 417 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 around the globe? How do we work with our allies like the U.K. on this? That's been 418 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 a major topic of conversation between us and the U.K. over the prior months. So you are 419 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 right to point out that there's a whole kind of related issue here, which is, how do we 420 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 get into the process before somebody becomes so radicalized that they're ready to commit 421 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 this kind of an act? The Press: 422 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 And did you find any reason to suspect that that particular flight was chosen because 423 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 it was headed to Detroit, given the large Yemeni and Arab American population there? 424 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Secretary Napolitano: You know, I think that's within the purview 425 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 of the criminal case, so it wouldn't be appropriate for comment right now. 426 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Mr. Gibbs: April. 427 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 The Press: This goes to Madam Secretary and Mr. Brennan. 428 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Focusing on the international issue, Yemen as well as Africa, since this attack, has 429 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 anyone from the Yemen embassy, or the Yemen ambassador, come to the White House since 430 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 the attack happened recently to talk to anyone about this? Do you know? 431 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Secretary Napolitano: I can't talk to communication at the White 432 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 House, but I suspect John can. Mr. Brennan: 433 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 We've been in regular contact with the Yemeni government. I've spoken to President Salih, 434 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 in fact, after this event took place, and the Yemeni Foreign Minister in fact is going 435 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 to be coming here. So there have been a number of interactions with our people in San'a as 436 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 well as with Yemeni officials. The Press: 437 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Now the issue of extradition, the way I understand it there's no extradition from Yemen. Is that 438 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 an issue, particularly with the breeding of terrorists there and extremists? Is that on 439 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 the table with the Yemen government, extraditing them -- 440 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Mr. Brennan: Back here to the United States? If in fact 441 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 there is a reason to do that, we will do that, if they have someone. 442 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 The Press: Okay. And also, on the Africa issue, some 443 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 in the national security community are saying that the focus needs to be placed on the continent 444 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 of Africa. You talked -- the President has talked about Somalia. And there are breeding 445 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 grounds in Africa where extremists from the Pakistan-Afghanistan border are going to Somalia. 446 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 And there's a fear that the tentacles will spread from there into Northern Africa, into 447 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Europe. Have you or anyone here talked to any of the African leaders? And is AFRICOM 448 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 appropriate to handle this kind of situation right now after the Christmas attack? 449 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Secretary Napolitano: Let me just say that as I mentioned, we've 450 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 already deployed high officials from our department around the globe, and indeed, they will be 451 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 going to Africa as well. They need to be part of the solution. This is a global travel issue, 452 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 not just, as I said before, the United States. So, indeed, there is active engagement there. 453 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Mr. Brennan: There are many different groups in Africa 454 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 that are of serious concern, from a terrorist perspective -- al Qaeda in East Africa, al-Shabaab, 455 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb. We have had a ongoing and robust dialogue with African 456 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 countries and leaders, as well as with other countries in the area. But we see that it 457 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 is an area in fact that al Qaeda preys upon, that they particularly are looking in Africa 458 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 for recruits, and this is something that we're very concerned about and following. 459 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 The Press: So why not do more of a focus instead of just 460 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 having AFRICOM particularly just handle this right now? 461 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Mr. Brennan: AFRICOM is just one of many elements of the 462 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 U.S. government, as far as the Department of State and others, who are engaging with 463 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 African countries and leaders in a way to address this issue from the standpoint of 464 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 both cooperation, security training, and assistance. Mr. Gibbs: 465 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Margaret. The Press: 466 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Thank you. John, is there -- to follow up on Michael's question, is there any information 467 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 that the government has been able to analyze now that you had prior to Christmas but hadn't 468 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 gotten to analyze yet, that is now fitting retrospectively into sort of explaining what 469 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 had happened? Mr. Brennan: 470 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 There's a lot of information that's being reanalyzed and reevaluated in light of this, 471 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 because any type of incident like this, it gives us new insight into methods, modus operandi 472 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 and other types of things. So there's scouring going on right now of all the different datasets 473 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 within the intelligence community to identify. And we are pursuing a number of leads as a 474 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 result of that review. The Press: 475 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Could you tell us about any of those -- presumably the report today was scrubbed. Is what was 476 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 released today to us a greatly redacted version of what's been presented to the President, 477 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 and does that explain the delay this afternoon? Mr. Gibbs: 478 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 As I said earlier, part of the delay is in declassifying a very complex document, and 479 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 we apologize for the delay. Lynn. The Press: 480 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Is the system already in place -- meaning, if the father would have gone into -- went 481 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 to the embassy, could be a similar situation today, would a ping immediately happen; would 482 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 the crosstab come up with the fact that the person had a visa, for example? And that's 483 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 -- isn't that one of the things that you're talking about? So I'm wondering if the fix 484 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 is already installed. And to Secretary Napolitano, since there aren't body-imaging machines all 485 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 over the world, I take it that pat-downs might be used. What do you say to people who are 486 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 just squeamish about personal privacy being invaded and body searches? 487 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Secretary Napolitano: Well, obviously, as we move to strengthen 488 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 security we always have this balance to be struck with issues about personal privacy. 489 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Here in the United States we train officers on how to properly conduct a pat-down. They 490 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 do it in other countries around the world as well. Part of the initiative that we are 491 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 undertaking is to make sure that that kind of training and capacity is built in continents 492 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 around the globe. But you are right -- it is likely, in addition to the things that 493 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 I listed, that there will increases of pat-downs as well. 494 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Mr. Brennan: On the first question, I'm confident that 495 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 we have taken a variety of corrective measures that would have allowed us, had we taken them 496 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 before, to identify Mr. Abdulmutallab as somebody of concern. He was identified as an extremist 497 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 by his father -- not a terrorist, not somebody who was planning to carry out a violent act. 498 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 But particularly the National Counterterrorism Center has been working day and night for 499 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 -- since this December 25th attempted attack, has been scouring all of the databases -- 500 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 identities databases as well as all-source databases -- to make those correlations. And 501 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 I'm confident that they have done that very thoroughly. 502 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 Mr. Gibbs: Thank you, guys.