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1 00:00:08,170 --> 00:00:13,040 [Music] 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:15,040 hello 3 00:00:13,040 --> 00:00:17,680 my name is claudia part of the wikimedia 4 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:19,760 mexico team with my colleague raquel we 5 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:21,760 will talk about the participation of 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:25,519 women in wikipedia 7 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:28,000 well it was in 2015 when we recognized 8 00:00:25,519 --> 00:00:30,800 that in wikipedia the work of women were 9 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:33,040 not yet related even though it is one of 10 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:35,280 the most visited websites 11 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:38,239 so carmen alcaza with the collaboration 12 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:40,399 of another woman created editatone a 13 00:00:38,239 --> 00:00:43,280 project a project that used to reduce 14 00:00:40,399 --> 00:00:45,760 the gender gap in its space 15 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:48,879 this project not only generates content 16 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:51,760 is not only about writing biographies 17 00:00:48,879 --> 00:00:55,120 of women it also builds safer spaces for 18 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:57,120 them spaces of complicity learning and 19 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:59,120 sharing knowledge 20 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:02,320 five years after this creation and 21 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:04,320 implementation we ask ourselves why are 22 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:06,479 women still underrepresented in 23 00:01:04,320 --> 00:01:08,240 wikipedia content 24 00:01:06,479 --> 00:01:10,560 this work allows reflection and 25 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:12,400 understanding of the causes and effects 26 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:14,799 of gender inequality 27 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:18,000 also the recovery of the experience of 28 00:01:14,799 --> 00:01:20,799 wikimedia women on specific practices 29 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:23,759 made visible the persistent guts of in 30 00:01:20,799 --> 00:01:24,880 wikipedia this is how this investigation 31 00:01:23,759 --> 00:01:27,280 came out 32 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:29,840 in this sense we will have two moments 33 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:32,320 one where we'll address of these words 34 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,360 and a second one where we'll answer your 35 00:01:32,320 --> 00:01:35,520 questions 36 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:38,240 well i want to present my friend and 37 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:41,520 colleague raquel and she's a feminist 38 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:43,840 researcher and women's right activist so 39 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:46,880 thank you rachel 40 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:48,079 thanks to you dear claudia 41 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:50,240 it's 42 00:01:48,079 --> 00:01:51,920 an honor and a pleasure that you are 43 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,640 here with me 44 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:56,000 i 45 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:58,960 have to say that originally anatos from 46 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:02,079 wikimedia argentina would be with us but 47 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:04,159 she she couldn't be here but 48 00:02:02,079 --> 00:02:06,479 she's 49 00:02:04,159 --> 00:02:07,520 here it is claudia so we are really 50 00:02:06,479 --> 00:02:11,039 happy 51 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:14,640 and well it's a very very special moment 52 00:02:11,039 --> 00:02:17,120 for wikimedia mexico because we are 53 00:02:14,640 --> 00:02:19,040 sharing with our community the results 54 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,239 of this 55 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,280 researching 56 00:02:20,239 --> 00:02:23,760 and 57 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:26,959 i have to say that uh it was an honor to 58 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:31,040 me to collaborate with uh the staff of 59 00:02:26,959 --> 00:02:34,640 wikimedia mexico and a very very uh 60 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:39,280 marvelous and generous team so now uh 61 00:02:34,640 --> 00:02:42,000 i'm gonna present part of the results i 62 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:44,879 like i would like to say that um 63 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:47,760 the researching will be available 64 00:02:44,879 --> 00:02:50,239 uh next week on english because we have 65 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:54,400 the version and spanish so we're going 66 00:02:50,239 --> 00:02:56,319 to start presenting the results as a 67 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:59,360 claudius said 68 00:02:56,319 --> 00:03:02,720 wikipedia is one of the most 69 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:04,080 consulted site on internet 70 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,879 is uh 71 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,680 definitely very important referent on 72 00:03:06,879 --> 00:03:08,720 the 73 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:12,080 uh 74 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:14,480 build on the knowledge around the world 75 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:17,519 and well um 76 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:18,720 unfortunately wikipedia wikipedia could 77 00:03:17,519 --> 00:03:19,920 not be 78 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:22,560 separated 79 00:03:19,920 --> 00:03:24,560 to the real world and when i say real 80 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:27,680 world i mean 81 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:30,319 a material world with very very 82 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,680 functional differences and 83 00:03:30,319 --> 00:03:32,799 inequalities 84 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:36,080 so 85 00:03:32,799 --> 00:03:38,720 we decided to recovery the experience of 86 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,920 women because there were 87 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:42,080 before 88 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:44,400 some 89 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:47,200 numbers very important numbers about 90 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:49,280 gender gap in wikipedia 91 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,959 but 92 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:53,680 we thought that 93 00:03:50,959 --> 00:03:55,360 would be very important to to have this 94 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,280 um 95 00:03:55,360 --> 00:04:01,280 this number in a 96 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:03,840 qualitative level you know for the 97 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:05,760 researching with gender perspective 98 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:08,080 is very important to 99 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:12,720 recovery this part 100 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:16,160 the rewards from the experience of women 101 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:18,320 this part that could prove 102 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,919 those inequalities that i 103 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,919 mentioned before 104 00:04:19,919 --> 00:04:23,919 and 105 00:04:21,919 --> 00:04:25,520 yes to answer the question 106 00:04:23,919 --> 00:04:26,479 why 107 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,520 more 108 00:04:26,479 --> 00:04:28,400 men 109 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,400 write 110 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,919 on wikipedia 111 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:35,040 and a difference 112 00:04:31,919 --> 00:04:38,080 to less women so 113 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:41,680 it will be a kind of a complementary 114 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:44,479 approach about this phenomena i mean we 115 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:46,639 have the numbers about gender gap and by 116 00:04:44,479 --> 00:04:48,880 the other side we're going to start to 117 00:04:46,639 --> 00:04:50,479 recovery this experience 118 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,280 and 119 00:04:50,479 --> 00:04:53,680 well 120 00:04:51,280 --> 00:04:55,520 i think it's very important also to say 121 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:58,000 that erica 122 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,880 as claudia said 123 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,680 too 124 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:05,120 is a project 125 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:09,360 that born in in mexico 126 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:12,639 during six years editona 127 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:13,840 is um a space a secure space 128 00:05:12,639 --> 00:05:16,479 for women 129 00:05:13,840 --> 00:05:18,960 and and girls i have to say because 130 00:05:16,479 --> 00:05:20,400 sometimes teenagers 131 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,320 were in these 132 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:25,520 worships and spaces 133 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:26,880 and well it has been very important 134 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,320 because 135 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,560 we have more than 136 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:32,720 600 articles 137 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:34,240 and this 138 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,680 worksheet 139 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,199 has a 140 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:40,080 repeat in 141 00:05:37,199 --> 00:05:42,080 some cities in mexico and 142 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:44,560 replicated in other countries such 143 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:46,880 argentina bolivia chile ecuador el 144 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:50,000 salvador spain guatemala honduras 145 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:52,000 nicaragua dominican republic and uruguay 146 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,840 and some cities uh 147 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:58,240 in our country like aguascalientes 148 00:05:53,840 --> 00:05:58,240 chiapas chihuahua guadalajara oaxaca 149 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,400 and 150 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:07,039 we are very happy and we have lots of 151 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:07,039 plans about elita tona and well 152 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:14,160 some awards like the omesi wattle 153 00:06:12,639 --> 00:06:15,840 medal 154 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:18,880 in 155 00:06:15,840 --> 00:06:23,440 three years three years before and 156 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:24,319 also receive this prize called frida 157 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,240 that 158 00:06:24,319 --> 00:06:29,919 is about regional 159 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:33,520 innovation projects and well our dear 160 00:06:29,919 --> 00:06:36,960 dear president of wikimedia mexico 161 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:40,160 alcazar was rewarded in 162 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:42,560 last days in the frame of 163 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:44,319 wikimania because 164 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,600 she is 165 00:06:44,319 --> 00:06:48,000 the 166 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,599 well i don't know how to say this in 167 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:53,360 english but 168 00:06:49,599 --> 00:06:55,360 she is la mas importante wikipedista and 169 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:57,120 well to me it was important to say it in 170 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,160 spanish so 171 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:01,120 um 172 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:02,479 we are very happy and we are very proud 173 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,360 about it 174 00:07:02,479 --> 00:07:04,800 but 175 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:07,759 we are um 176 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:10,639 we know that is not enough 177 00:07:07,759 --> 00:07:13,280 we need to do more things about the 178 00:07:10,639 --> 00:07:17,199 participation of women and girls 179 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:20,160 it's also important to say that girls 180 00:07:17,199 --> 00:07:22,560 have to be part of a 181 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:25,680 wikipedia because 182 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:27,520 they are part of a very very 183 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:31,840 consistent genealogy 184 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:35,599 and feminist work approach about uh 185 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:36,400 history with women for and with women so 186 00:07:35,599 --> 00:07:39,039 uh 187 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:41,680 we we know it and that's why 188 00:07:39,039 --> 00:07:43,120 we started to to planning this uh 189 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,759 researching 190 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:49,360 but well i i think that 191 00:07:45,759 --> 00:07:51,759 in general in our community we know that 192 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:53,919 there's a kind of world wikipedia a 193 00:07:51,759 --> 00:07:56,560 world of wikipedia 194 00:07:53,919 --> 00:08:00,319 we know that wikipedia was born on 195 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:00,319 january 15 and 196 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,560 20 years before 197 00:08:03,199 --> 00:08:06,639 but 198 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,919 we know that also 199 00:08:06,639 --> 00:08:09,759 there are 200 00:08:07,919 --> 00:08:12,479 other projects 201 00:08:09,759 --> 00:08:14,319 but what happened about 202 00:08:12,479 --> 00:08:16,720 our community 203 00:08:14,319 --> 00:08:18,160 yeah this is a very important point 204 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,639 because 205 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:23,360 as i said at the beginning of the this 206 00:08:20,639 --> 00:08:23,360 presentation 207 00:08:23,599 --> 00:08:27,919 maybe we can 208 00:08:25,039 --> 00:08:31,599 build an image a mental image about the 209 00:08:27,919 --> 00:08:32,640 community of wikipedia but wikipedia is 210 00:08:31,599 --> 00:08:35,039 part 211 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:36,240 of a social world 212 00:08:35,039 --> 00:08:38,240 based on 213 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:40,479 inequalities 214 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:42,800 biases and 215 00:08:40,479 --> 00:08:44,000 lots of problems lots of very 216 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,160 problematic 217 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:48,640 situation so 218 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:51,519 i think we need more 219 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:54,160 critical frames to understand 220 00:08:51,519 --> 00:08:56,080 the the social dynamic and interaction 221 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:58,399 between people 222 00:08:56,080 --> 00:09:00,399 on wikipedia so 223 00:08:58,399 --> 00:09:02,320 according with these 224 00:09:00,399 --> 00:09:04,320 ideas and thoughts 225 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,920 we we need to 226 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,279 imagine 227 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,839 where's the 228 00:09:07,279 --> 00:09:15,920 where where are women and what's the 229 00:09:09,839 --> 00:09:15,920 role of women in in wikipedia and also 230 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:22,000 how the representation of women in our 231 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:24,000 encyclopedia 232 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:27,040 well according with that 233 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:28,560 uh we have a very complex community 234 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,440 because well 235 00:09:28,560 --> 00:09:31,440 first 236 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:33,600 large number of people 237 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,880 people around the world 238 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:38,160 yeah 239 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:40,160 all uh versions of wikipedia 240 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:42,720 so um 241 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:45,440 we have a very very evident cultural 242 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,440 diversity 243 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,760 and also 244 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:52,000 gaps very important gaps 245 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:54,080 that i say 246 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,839 there are 247 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,880 these connections 248 00:09:55,839 --> 00:09:58,959 about 249 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:02,399 structural inequalities and gaps in 250 00:09:58,959 --> 00:10:05,120 wikipedia and also the biases i think 251 00:10:02,399 --> 00:10:08,880 it's very important to recognize that 252 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:10,000 we have biases of gender class and race 253 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,440 of course 254 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:14,160 yeah 255 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:16,320 put attention about that because 256 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:18,399 this frame of analysis 257 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:20,800 will be very important to understand 258 00:10:18,399 --> 00:10:23,200 the results and experience of 259 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:26,160 women who participated in 260 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,160 our research 261 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:30,800 i am going to recommend to you 262 00:10:28,959 --> 00:10:31,680 a book 263 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:34,320 in 264 00:10:31,680 --> 00:10:37,279 english heretic knowledge in spanish el 265 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:39,360 conocimentoreje 266 00:10:37,279 --> 00:10:41,680 written by patricio lorente that is an 267 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,880 argentine professor 268 00:10:41,680 --> 00:10:46,560 is 269 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:47,839 it was to me a very useful tool to 270 00:10:46,560 --> 00:10:50,000 understand 271 00:10:47,839 --> 00:10:53,920 the wikipedia world 272 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:55,360 and i would like to share to you this uh 273 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:58,079 this fact 274 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:59,600 this is a situation 275 00:10:58,079 --> 00:11:02,640 who the um 276 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:04,079 that professor lorente could see 277 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:07,360 in australia 278 00:11:04,079 --> 00:11:08,800 in a conference of wikimedia foundation 279 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:11,279 and 280 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:13,760 sorry it was in taipei and 281 00:11:11,279 --> 00:11:16,880 the speaker was an australian wikipedian 282 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:19,360 and her name was brianna loher 283 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,959 and and she shared some questions with 284 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:25,600 the audience 285 00:11:20,959 --> 00:11:28,640 i'm gonna read the the entire um idea 286 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:30,880 do we want to create a community or do 287 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:34,000 we want to prevent the community from 288 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:37,839 growing because it distracts us from the 289 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:40,320 task of writing and encyclopedia 290 00:11:37,839 --> 00:11:42,880 bien asked these questions after 291 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:46,720 analyzing how the community reacted to 292 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,720 the actions of new users 293 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:51,360 she pointed out for example that 294 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:52,800 template is warning new users for 295 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:55,839 mistakes 296 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:58,240 in the edits often do not serve the 297 00:11:55,839 --> 00:11:59,920 purpose of socializing newcomers in 298 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:03,040 wikipedia rules 299 00:11:59,920 --> 00:12:05,360 and facilitating their integration but 300 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:08,240 rather systemize their faults 301 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:11,519 to sustaining an early look what did 302 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:14,720 this mean well uh this this question i 303 00:12:11,519 --> 00:12:16,000 think is uh essential i mean 304 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:19,120 what 305 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:20,320 we want as a community 306 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:23,120 we want to 307 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:25,680 that community grows up 308 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:27,120 or we want to maintain and keep this 309 00:12:25,680 --> 00:12:28,560 very closed 310 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,519 group 311 00:12:28,560 --> 00:12:31,040 because 312 00:12:29,519 --> 00:12:35,360 when we 313 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:38,079 think about new users 314 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:40,639 surely we want to think about women 315 00:12:38,079 --> 00:12:41,680 because we know that there's a gender 316 00:12:40,639 --> 00:12:43,360 gap 317 00:12:41,680 --> 00:12:44,959 yeah 318 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:47,450 for example 319 00:12:44,959 --> 00:12:50,639 if we are talking about 10 320 00:12:47,450 --> 00:12:54,240 [Music] 321 00:12:50,639 --> 00:12:55,600 people that it is writing wikipedia 322 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,800 uh well 323 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:59,680 just one 324 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:02,880 is a woman so 325 00:12:59,680 --> 00:13:05,360 it's an evident gender gap so 326 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:08,639 we have to recognize that 327 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:11,040 if we are talking about new users 328 00:13:08,639 --> 00:13:14,800 we are talking about women 329 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:16,639 yeah so this is a problem about power 330 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,839 social relation 331 00:13:16,639 --> 00:13:21,680 um 332 00:13:17,839 --> 00:13:24,480 based on power and inequalities 333 00:13:21,680 --> 00:13:28,079 that's why i said at the beginning but 334 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:30,000 there's a other level of this 335 00:13:28,079 --> 00:13:33,279 analysis 336 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:34,880 also in the heretic knowledge patricio 337 00:13:33,279 --> 00:13:36,560 lorente 338 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:39,040 tell us about 339 00:13:36,560 --> 00:13:41,279 this kind of historical power relations 340 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:44,079 between spain and latin america for 341 00:13:41,279 --> 00:13:45,199 example i'm talking about wikipedia in 342 00:13:44,079 --> 00:13:48,639 spanish 343 00:13:45,199 --> 00:13:50,959 but i'm i'm pretty sure that this uh 344 00:13:48,639 --> 00:13:54,000 context is present 345 00:13:50,959 --> 00:13:56,079 on the rest of the versions of wikipedia 346 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:58,560 around the world so 347 00:13:56,079 --> 00:14:00,800 this is a debate about 348 00:13:58,560 --> 00:14:03,120 the use of one word 349 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,120 a 350 00:14:03,279 --> 00:14:06,240 in 351 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:10,160 english 352 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:13,839 in latin america we people say papa and 353 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:15,440 in spain in the most common word is 354 00:14:13,839 --> 00:14:18,880 patata 355 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:20,880 there there was a kind of uh debate but 356 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,160 it's amazing 357 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,120 how uh 358 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,800 could be 359 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,920 this kind of situations could be a 360 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,880 problem 361 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:31,519 yeah because well in in this case we 362 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,519 have this 363 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:36,480 [Music] 364 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:38,880 paragraph about something that a span a 365 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:41,279 spanish men say 366 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:43,920 to me what seems like a localism is to 367 00:14:41,279 --> 00:14:46,240 give into the pressure of the number 368 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:49,199 culture has never worked because of 369 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:50,959 numbers but for the other less than 370 00:14:49,199 --> 00:14:52,880 democratic reasons 371 00:14:50,959 --> 00:14:55,680 if the very important for universal 372 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:59,040 culture latin america says papa 373 00:14:55,680 --> 00:15:01,839 even if it is 10 or 1 374 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:03,519 500 million it is something that should 375 00:15:01,839 --> 00:15:04,399 matter rather light 376 00:15:03,519 --> 00:15:07,839 yeah 377 00:15:04,399 --> 00:15:11,199 these um men say that doesn't matter the 378 00:15:07,839 --> 00:15:12,959 number doesn't matter this um 379 00:15:11,199 --> 00:15:16,399 kind of uh 380 00:15:12,959 --> 00:15:18,560 according with the context you know 381 00:15:16,399 --> 00:15:21,600 it's something like 382 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:24,320 some people think from spain that 383 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:26,720 they have this power 384 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,519 to the use of the language 385 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:30,320 but 386 00:15:27,519 --> 00:15:33,600 we know that in our encyclopedia it's 387 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:36,560 important to think about diversity 388 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:39,360 yeah but this is a very clear example 389 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:41,759 about historical power relations 390 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:44,639 er social relations and 391 00:15:41,759 --> 00:15:46,880 we we can imagine this same 392 00:15:44,639 --> 00:15:47,839 uh situation about 393 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,360 uh 394 00:15:47,839 --> 00:15:52,880 the relation of 395 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:54,639 between women and men yeah 396 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:57,199 okay 397 00:15:54,639 --> 00:15:59,279 but before to start to present the 398 00:15:57,199 --> 00:16:01,680 results and 399 00:15:59,279 --> 00:16:04,480 and this part of the experience of uh 400 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:07,759 the this uh those generals generous 401 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:10,959 women who participate in our work 402 00:16:07,759 --> 00:16:11,839 i would like to um 403 00:16:10,959 --> 00:16:15,199 stop 404 00:16:11,839 --> 00:16:17,600 and um think about the notion of 405 00:16:15,199 --> 00:16:20,160 modernity and the notions about 406 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:22,639 knowledge yeah i'm gonna 407 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:24,160 read something very interesting because 408 00:16:22,639 --> 00:16:26,720 the 409 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:29,040 woman is the first reason for sin the 410 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:30,240 cause of the expulsion of men from 411 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,720 paradise 412 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:34,160 and consequently we must avoid all 413 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:36,480 traits with her 414 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:39,360 we defend and expressly 415 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:42,480 prohibit anyone from allowing themselves 416 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:45,680 to introduce a woman even if she is the 417 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:48,800 most honest in this university well the 418 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:52,160 previous paragraph is a fragment of the 419 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:55,040 decree of the university of bologna yeah 420 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:56,880 we are talking about the referent 421 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:59,199 first the oldest university in the 422 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,920 western and westernized world 423 00:16:59,199 --> 00:17:03,199 yeah 424 00:16:59,920 --> 00:17:07,120 and the reference to 425 00:17:03,199 --> 00:17:10,160 found the modern university so 426 00:17:07,120 --> 00:17:11,199 this is not part of our imagination 427 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,000 women 428 00:17:11,199 --> 00:17:14,640 yeah 429 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:18,640 were not part of the modernity 430 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:20,880 of the modernity social contract yeah 431 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,919 what it does mean well that 432 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,679 women 433 00:17:21,919 --> 00:17:26,000 are not citizens 434 00:17:23,679 --> 00:17:26,000 yeah 435 00:17:26,079 --> 00:17:29,360 maybe 436 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,880 some people could believe that i am 437 00:17:29,360 --> 00:17:34,080 crazy because i'm 438 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:36,559 telling you that but well 439 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:38,240 in this in a full 440 00:17:36,559 --> 00:17:40,000 21 century 441 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:42,240 there's a lot of people that don't 442 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,600 understand that women 443 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:46,640 are people 444 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:48,640 in a notion of a 445 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:51,120 rights and 446 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,919 a legal frame you know 447 00:17:51,120 --> 00:17:54,160 so 448 00:17:51,919 --> 00:17:56,080 as i said it wasn't part of our 449 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:58,080 imagination 450 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:59,520 we weren't 451 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,360 citizens 452 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:03,039 and that's why 453 00:18:01,360 --> 00:18:05,600 the mother 454 00:18:03,039 --> 00:18:07,679 knowledge of um 455 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:10,960 was built yeah 456 00:18:07,679 --> 00:18:13,840 we can see now two images first 457 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:15,200 this project the encyclopedia 458 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:15,919 france 459 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,679 and 460 00:18:15,919 --> 00:18:19,760 this reference of 461 00:18:17,679 --> 00:18:21,200 the man 462 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:23,440 after that 463 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:25,039 we have to assume that this 464 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:28,240 representation 465 00:18:25,039 --> 00:18:30,880 was about humanity 466 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:32,720 yeah but it was very very very 467 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:35,520 problematic 468 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:37,360 because if i i 469 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:39,039 see this image 470 00:18:37,360 --> 00:18:40,559 i'm not 471 00:18:39,039 --> 00:18:43,120 i'm not there 472 00:18:40,559 --> 00:18:46,000 because i'm a woman 473 00:18:43,120 --> 00:18:48,799 and also in in my case 474 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:50,240 i'm a woman from a country 475 00:18:48,799 --> 00:18:52,720 uh 476 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:56,480 this division i hate this kind of 477 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:59,120 divisions but uh from the third world 478 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:00,880 they say before the 479 00:18:59,120 --> 00:19:03,840 uh half of the 480 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:06,000 20th century so uh 481 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:09,280 what's your presentation about that this 482 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:10,480 diversity the human diversity 483 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,559 and 484 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:15,600 that's that's the way that modernity was 485 00:19:12,559 --> 00:19:16,960 found yeah so this is very important to 486 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:19,919 understand 487 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:21,520 that this situation is repeated 488 00:19:19,919 --> 00:19:24,559 in wikipedia 489 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:28,480 i know it's hard to understand it i know 490 00:19:24,559 --> 00:19:29,760 it's uh uncomfortable to accept it but 491 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,200 if we 492 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,400 wanna 493 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:36,160 have a 494 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:38,559 important and deep transformation in our 495 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:40,799 community and the way that we are 496 00:19:38,559 --> 00:19:41,919 building knowledge we have to recognize 497 00:19:40,799 --> 00:19:44,640 that 498 00:19:41,919 --> 00:19:46,559 yeah it's very important to be honest 499 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:51,120 and sincere 500 00:19:46,559 --> 00:19:51,120 sensitive about the inequalities 501 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,039 well um 502 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,240 so 503 00:19:55,039 --> 00:19:59,520 i'm 504 00:19:56,240 --> 00:20:01,760 gonna share to you some ideas about 505 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:05,600 how gender digital gap 506 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:08,559 is on wikipedia first 507 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:10,799 we have to to think that the very high 508 00:20:08,559 --> 00:20:14,559 cost of data and digital devices like 509 00:20:10,799 --> 00:20:16,960 cell phone studies affects those who 510 00:20:14,559 --> 00:20:20,960 earn less in this case well we are 511 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:24,000 talking about women and rural residents 512 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:26,400 also these cultural barriers 513 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:30,159 these social attitudes 514 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:34,159 like women should not use the internet 515 00:20:30,159 --> 00:20:37,679 or i think about lack of time because 516 00:20:34,159 --> 00:20:41,120 women have double or triple workload for 517 00:20:37,679 --> 00:20:43,760 example uh domestic work 518 00:20:41,120 --> 00:20:46,240 parenting and professional work 519 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:49,360 and well in this situation 520 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:51,840 with this pandemic scenario was is more 521 00:20:49,360 --> 00:20:54,159 difficult to to women 522 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:56,799 uh the other element 523 00:20:54,159 --> 00:20:58,640 for the analysis is the self-censorship 524 00:20:56,799 --> 00:21:00,880 yeah and fear 525 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:03,520 don't forget this because it will be 526 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:06,720 very important to understand part of uh 527 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:07,520 the experience of women in wikipedia 528 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:10,080 uh 529 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:12,000 well according with this self-censorship 530 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,360 and the fear yeah 531 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:16,320 uh 532 00:21:13,360 --> 00:21:20,480 because women uh 533 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:23,280 experience also a gender violence yeah 534 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:25,600 the other is the educational educational 535 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:28,240 gap yeah because 536 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:29,760 women and men don't receive the same 537 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:33,280 education 538 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:35,679 doesn't matter if education is a a right 539 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:37,840 yeah a human right 540 00:21:35,679 --> 00:21:39,200 we we also 541 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,440 can 542 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:45,600 observe this kind of 543 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:47,039 biases also in the educational 544 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,960 frame 545 00:21:47,039 --> 00:21:51,200 and well also 546 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:54,080 we have to analyze the access and 547 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:55,760 participation of women and girls on the 548 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:58,960 internet yeah 549 00:21:55,760 --> 00:22:02,640 we are talking about appropriation yeah 550 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:03,520 the sense about the security yeah and 551 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,640 also 552 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:10,400 those abilities that we develop as a 553 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:12,480 human being but particularly as a woman 554 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:15,919 in in the world in the social 555 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:18,000 world based in inequalities 556 00:22:15,919 --> 00:22:22,480 uh i i 557 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:24,480 want to recover this reflection about 558 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,880 the censorship 559 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:28,799 from margaret gallagher 560 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:31,679 she's a 561 00:22:28,799 --> 00:22:32,480 feminist researcher from england 562 00:22:31,679 --> 00:22:33,280 and 563 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,039 she 564 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:38,880 notices that 565 00:22:35,039 --> 00:22:42,240 censorship based on sex is much broader 566 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:45,520 more compelling and usually more subtle 567 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:48,320 than official or organization 568 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:50,559 yeah we are talking about this 569 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:52,400 fear inside 570 00:22:50,559 --> 00:22:54,320 of women yeah 571 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,760 because they uh 572 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,600 one um 573 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,360 don't want to be 574 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:02,799 very visible 575 00:22:59,360 --> 00:23:06,480 they don't want uh to receive attacks 576 00:23:02,799 --> 00:23:08,559 so the censorship is a kind of tool to 577 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,919 self-care and self-defense 578 00:23:08,559 --> 00:23:13,039 yeah 579 00:23:09,919 --> 00:23:14,960 but but uh the the very shocking element 580 00:23:13,039 --> 00:23:17,520 on this is that uh 581 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:19,039 margaret gallagher says that is 582 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:22,960 a stronger 583 00:23:19,039 --> 00:23:26,240 than official or organization 584 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:27,520 this is really shocking because 585 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:30,640 we are 586 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:32,640 talking about uh freedom 587 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:35,280 of speech as a 588 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:37,919 human right but at the same time 589 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:40,960 we are talking about this very deep 590 00:23:37,919 --> 00:23:43,360 fear on women and you know what 591 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:45,919 i feel this fear 592 00:23:43,360 --> 00:23:48,400 now i'm feeling this fear 593 00:23:45,919 --> 00:23:50,640 i'm very happy to share with you with 594 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:53,840 our community the results of our 595 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:55,840 researching but at the same time and 596 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:59,760 i'm really nervous 597 00:23:55,840 --> 00:24:04,720 because i'm expecting that as maybe 598 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:06,799 maybe a group of man a man or a man 599 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:09,440 could say something 600 00:24:06,799 --> 00:24:10,159 something really offensive 601 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,559 and 602 00:24:10,159 --> 00:24:15,600 that's the kind of fear that we have to 603 00:24:12,559 --> 00:24:16,840 experience each day 604 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:20,000 and i'm 605 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,880 exhausted to live deaf 606 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,600 so 607 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:25,440 can you imagine this 608 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,720 context 609 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:30,240 this fear 610 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,240 repeated in wikipedia 611 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:35,440 when we are talking about violence 612 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,880 against women and girls on internet what 613 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:39,360 we are talking 614 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:41,120 we are talking about hate speech 615 00:24:39,360 --> 00:24:45,600 we are talking about cyber bullying 616 00:24:41,120 --> 00:24:48,480 harassment yeah we are talking that 617 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:51,039 the most frequently hashtags 618 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,240 for example in my city 619 00:24:51,039 --> 00:24:55,919 that's the 620 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,720 capital of my country mexico city we 621 00:24:55,919 --> 00:24:57,840 could 622 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,880 see 623 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:02,080 this 624 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:03,440 a very large number of hashtags based in 625 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,520 hate speech 626 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,520 yeah we have to recognize that girls 627 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,840 boys women and young people 628 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:12,960 are the main victims of this hate speech 629 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:15,440 on internet yeah and as i said in the 630 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:17,919 beginning we cannot separate wikipedia 631 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:20,240 from the material world the social 632 00:25:17,919 --> 00:25:21,039 material world yeah 633 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,919 and 634 00:25:21,039 --> 00:25:25,039 cyberspace is a kind of extension 635 00:25:23,919 --> 00:25:27,760 of this 636 00:25:25,039 --> 00:25:29,679 misogynist violence i went against women 637 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:32,559 and girls yeah 638 00:25:29,679 --> 00:25:36,480 so um 639 00:25:32,559 --> 00:25:39,840 now i'm gonna talk to to um pass this 640 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:40,720 part of this um results and and try to 641 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:44,159 the 642 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:46,000 to make a chat a very close and chat uh 643 00:25:44,159 --> 00:25:47,120 closing a 644 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,320 chat with 645 00:25:47,120 --> 00:25:49,039 with 646 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:52,080 the 647 00:25:49,039 --> 00:25:55,760 audiences i'm gonna share to you the 648 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:59,200 research methodology well of course we 649 00:25:55,760 --> 00:26:02,240 needed to use gender perspective and 650 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:04,240 also the feminist action research 651 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,520 this access 652 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,600 are 653 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,679 the base of our work but i have to say 654 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,760 that feminist action research 655 00:26:09,679 --> 00:26:14,320 is 656 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:18,480 an a perspective that 657 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:19,919 offers the opportunity not only to build 658 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:23,279 knowledge 659 00:26:19,919 --> 00:26:25,840 i'm talking about to build 660 00:26:23,279 --> 00:26:28,640 alternatives you know solutions 661 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:31,679 for a very important problems 662 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:35,440 and well we decided to use interview as 663 00:26:31,679 --> 00:26:37,039 a technique yeah because we wanted to 664 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,440 recovery in a 665 00:26:37,039 --> 00:26:41,840 qualitative level 666 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:46,240 and well we divide 667 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:48,960 into three soft groups our 668 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:51,120 informants and well first wikimedia 669 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:54,480 volunteers and workers 670 00:26:51,120 --> 00:26:57,760 after that external wikimedia editors 671 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:59,120 but with extensive experience 672 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:02,400 and also 673 00:26:59,120 --> 00:27:03,840 we wanted to recover the experience of a 674 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:07,520 [Music] 675 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:09,520 wikipedia volunteers that 676 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:12,799 don't have this 677 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,799 extensive experience 678 00:27:13,279 --> 00:27:17,840 because we are 679 00:27:14,799 --> 00:27:19,120 interested about the dynamic in 680 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,480 wikipedia 681 00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:22,640 on spanish 682 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:25,360 we contact in 683 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:27,039 people from latin america and spain 684 00:27:25,360 --> 00:27:28,240 and well 685 00:27:27,039 --> 00:27:31,600 we 686 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:34,000 made about 20 interviews 687 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:36,799 and then of course the names of the 688 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,919 women interviewed that are not uh 689 00:27:36,799 --> 00:27:40,320 disclosed 690 00:27:37,919 --> 00:27:43,520 because we are uh 691 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:46,240 very interested to warranty uh safety 692 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:48,080 and self-care yeah for for us it's very 693 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:50,880 important 694 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:53,440 develop a ethical work so 695 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,559 those elements were really really 696 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,360 important 697 00:27:54,559 --> 00:27:57,919 yeah 698 00:27:55,360 --> 00:27:59,120 well what about the discussion of our 699 00:27:57,919 --> 00:27:59,919 findings 700 00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:01,520 yeah 701 00:27:59,919 --> 00:28:02,399 well 702 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,000 first 703 00:28:02,399 --> 00:28:07,440 i have to say that 704 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:08,640 we worked with women 705 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,520 who 706 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,640 have 707 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:15,760 access to education 708 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:18,000 even in universities so 709 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:21,679 the academic background 710 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,480 fabric them to approach to wikipedia 711 00:28:21,679 --> 00:28:24,559 uh 712 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,840 so i think 713 00:28:24,559 --> 00:28:27,840 if we 714 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,440 wanna 715 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:32,880 that our community 716 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:34,960 grows moves up we need to think how to 717 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:38,080 approach wikipedia to 718 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:40,000 people that don't have this kind of 719 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,840 academic background i think it's very 720 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:44,720 important 721 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:47,279 also our participants began creating 722 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:50,080 articles on wikipedia 723 00:28:47,279 --> 00:28:52,240 according with their academic background 724 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,760 and personal interests 725 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,559 but 726 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:59,440 because they became aware of have 727 00:28:56,559 --> 00:29:03,360 inequality is present in the in 728 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:06,559 wikipedia they became interested in 729 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:08,480 create articles about women so 730 00:29:06,559 --> 00:29:10,720 in this case the experience 731 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:13,679 is very important yeah 732 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:16,720 well in general our 733 00:29:13,679 --> 00:29:18,320 informants prefer to edit on their 734 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,799 computers 735 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:22,480 and well um 736 00:29:20,799 --> 00:29:26,399 some of 737 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:29,440 those women do domestic work but 738 00:29:26,399 --> 00:29:30,399 other very important group have support 739 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,919 to this 740 00:29:30,399 --> 00:29:32,720 activity 741 00:29:31,919 --> 00:29:34,159 but 742 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:36,240 they are 743 00:29:34,159 --> 00:29:39,200 very conscious about 744 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:41,760 that the sexual division the division of 745 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,880 labor involves many responsibilities for 746 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,799 women 747 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,960 more in this 748 00:29:44,799 --> 00:29:48,799 moment of the 749 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:51,600 pandemic moment 750 00:29:48,799 --> 00:29:51,600 and they 751 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,600 a question 752 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:58,399 themselves no 753 00:29:55,600 --> 00:30:00,720 in what moment women could write on 754 00:29:58,399 --> 00:30:02,960 wikipedia 755 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,960 well 756 00:30:03,279 --> 00:30:06,640 they 757 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,240 believed that in general 758 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:11,440 uh 759 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:14,240 is not easy to external 760 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:16,480 people of the community to write on 761 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:18,880 wikipedia 762 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:21,039 they understand that 763 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:23,600 again their 764 00:30:21,039 --> 00:30:26,640 academic framework 765 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:29,440 was a very important tool to 766 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,240 collaborate in wikipedia 767 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,520 but 768 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:34,480 also they 769 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,440 think as a very important element 770 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,000 to 771 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,760 put on the table of the analysis the 772 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,559 class condition 773 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:44,640 yeah we are talking about a 774 00:30:42,559 --> 00:30:46,799 gender gap but i think it's very 775 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:49,440 important to understand that the 776 00:30:46,799 --> 00:30:51,600 condition of class of people is a very 777 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:55,919 very important 778 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:57,840 element to understand why people um 779 00:30:55,919 --> 00:31:00,880 why women 780 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,840 don't uh write on wikipedia have the 781 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,120 same 782 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,799 way of 783 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:07,679 according with the 784 00:31:04,799 --> 00:31:08,480 numbers of of men in wikipedia 785 00:31:07,679 --> 00:31:09,440 yeah 786 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,559 because 787 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,519 poverty 788 00:31:10,559 --> 00:31:14,960 has 789 00:31:11,519 --> 00:31:16,880 face of women and girls yeah 790 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:20,000 according with numbers of 791 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,960 international organism 792 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,279 of 793 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,559 10 persons in poverty 794 00:31:23,279 --> 00:31:25,519 7 795 00:31:24,559 --> 00:31:28,480 are 796 00:31:25,519 --> 00:31:30,480 women or a girl 797 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,480 so the condition of class is very 798 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,360 important yeah 799 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,440 what 800 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:38,799 were the practices and discourses 801 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:41,440 detected in our empirical work well 802 00:31:38,799 --> 00:31:44,559 i'm gonna read some uh 803 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:46,640 part of the reflections that 804 00:31:44,559 --> 00:31:48,559 this group of women 805 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,480 share that with us 806 00:31:48,559 --> 00:31:52,640 they're always barriers they're always 807 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,240 question of the encyclopedia relevance 808 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,480 of what you write 809 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,240 if you write about a man 810 00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:01,120 they don't question you 811 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:04,159 and that's generous insecurity that's 812 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:06,480 why i concentrated on improving articles 813 00:32:04,159 --> 00:32:09,840 yeah it's not the same to create an 814 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:11,200 article about a woman than amma 815 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,440 yeah 816 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,399 uh this is very 817 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,440 interesting 818 00:32:14,399 --> 00:32:20,000 i've noticed that since i identified 819 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:22,240 myself as a feminine user 820 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:24,080 i'm being questionated and monitored 821 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,200 more yeah 822 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,519 so 823 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,320 this is a kind of a strategy 824 00:32:27,519 --> 00:32:29,519 from 825 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:32,320 [Music] 826 00:32:29,519 --> 00:32:33,760 some group of women 827 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:37,440 they prefer 828 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:41,519 to choose a masculine or a neutral name 829 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:42,960 of user because they don't want to see 830 00:32:41,519 --> 00:32:46,159 as a woman 831 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:48,559 in wikipedia yeah 832 00:32:46,159 --> 00:32:50,399 well there's another i had suspicions 833 00:32:48,559 --> 00:32:53,600 about bias in women women's 834 00:32:50,399 --> 00:32:54,840 participation but it was confirmed 835 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:58,159 with the 836 00:32:54,840 --> 00:33:00,159 editors sometimes even if you're a man 837 00:32:58,159 --> 00:33:02,000 and you write about women they delete 838 00:33:00,159 --> 00:33:02,799 your articles 839 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,840 so 840 00:33:02,799 --> 00:33:09,519 this kind of practice is part of a very 841 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:11,600 misogynist culture yeah 842 00:33:09,519 --> 00:33:14,000 and uh well 843 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,039 this practice about uh to the left 844 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,919 delete 845 00:33:15,039 --> 00:33:19,840 in a record time there are articles that 846 00:33:17,919 --> 00:33:21,360 uh talks about 847 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,159 a woman yeah 848 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,399 and 849 00:33:22,159 --> 00:33:26,880 and also well this um 850 00:33:24,399 --> 00:33:29,679 sense of frustration you know 851 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:32,480 uh from women because they 852 00:33:29,679 --> 00:33:33,919 work really hard to create an article 853 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,440 and suddenly 854 00:33:33,919 --> 00:33:36,799 they disappear 855 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,120 those articles 856 00:33:36,799 --> 00:33:41,200 yeah 857 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,240 this is you produce little and what you 858 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,760 produce 859 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,640 is erased 860 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,360 yeah 861 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:49,840 and also uh 862 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,440 our informants say we can utilize 863 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:56,080 wikipedia 864 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:56,960 because it's uh violent vertical sexist 865 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,039 yeah 866 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:01,279 there are some kind of practices and 867 00:33:59,039 --> 00:34:03,679 dynamics 868 00:34:01,279 --> 00:34:07,360 yeah this is very important 869 00:34:03,679 --> 00:34:11,040 and also this the the 870 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:12,960 the the that a bad intention is percent 871 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:16,240 yeah 872 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:19,679 this woman doesn't have doubt about it 873 00:34:16,240 --> 00:34:20,879 and i think it's very sad and tragic 874 00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:24,800 yeah 875 00:34:20,879 --> 00:34:28,720 and what's the difference for example uh 876 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:31,359 between the men experience and a woman 877 00:34:28,720 --> 00:34:34,879 experience yeah we have this my partner 878 00:34:31,359 --> 00:34:36,720 also did unlike me he has fun 879 00:34:34,879 --> 00:34:39,280 and i feel 880 00:34:36,720 --> 00:34:41,760 angus and frustration 881 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:44,879 it's a different experience yeah 882 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:47,119 why and that's great a man 883 00:34:44,879 --> 00:34:50,800 feels very happy 884 00:34:47,119 --> 00:34:53,440 to edit in anything in wikipedia 885 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:55,919 but at the same time a woman 886 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,040 feels fear 887 00:34:55,919 --> 00:35:00,079 why 888 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:03,359 this is a very unfair situation yeah 889 00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:04,480 and well we have some examples of uh 890 00:35:03,359 --> 00:35:06,320 attached 891 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,000 very very 892 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,800 punctual attacks 893 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,839 to 894 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:13,599 uh this group of women who women who 895 00:35:11,839 --> 00:35:15,920 participated 896 00:35:13,599 --> 00:35:20,400 for example this historical relation 897 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:23,599 between spain and latin america yeah 898 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:26,079 many spanish men are very misogynist 899 00:35:23,599 --> 00:35:28,400 in mexico some of us think that at the 900 00:35:26,079 --> 00:35:31,359 night is the best time to edit 901 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:33,839 but many times the spaniards arrive 902 00:35:31,359 --> 00:35:36,079 and are attentive at the time difference 903 00:35:33,839 --> 00:35:37,200 is when they are active 904 00:35:36,079 --> 00:35:39,040 yeah and 905 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,960 this uh 906 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,720 other idea very important there is a 907 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,960 selective harassment 908 00:35:42,720 --> 00:35:47,119 many of these accusations come from 909 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:49,520 publishers in spain 910 00:35:47,119 --> 00:35:51,040 the sense of appropriation of language 911 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,640 is too strong 912 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,480 yeah 913 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:57,440 well and and 914 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:59,040 i think resistance shouldn't be feeling 915 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:02,240 afraid yeah 916 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:03,839 this is part of 917 00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:05,839 the experience 918 00:36:03,839 --> 00:36:09,920 of women yeah 919 00:36:05,839 --> 00:36:09,920 i don't like to respond the message 920 00:36:10,079 --> 00:36:15,760 i practice the self-care and i don't 921 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:17,839 like to be visible in networks yeah 922 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:20,560 i'm trying to use a 923 00:36:17,839 --> 00:36:22,960 a different name 924 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:25,680 and well this is very important when 925 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,960 you're less afraid they want to generate 926 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:30,160 it 927 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:33,280 this is very tragic this is very sad 928 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:34,560 um and we are really worried about it 929 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,160 yeah 930 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:39,760 but well there's a there's a very 931 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:41,760 positive part of uh in our work yeah 932 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,960 we have to 933 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,920 present 934 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,880 this 935 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,079 very 936 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,800 sincere 937 00:36:46,079 --> 00:36:52,560 and honest framework context about 938 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:55,680 wikipedia as an extension of this 939 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:57,839 structural and material inequalities but 940 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,839 also we want to share to you some keys 941 00:36:57,839 --> 00:37:02,880 to promoting women's participation on 942 00:36:59,839 --> 00:37:05,359 wikipedia first 943 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:08,880 we need to be together 944 00:37:05,359 --> 00:37:12,240 we need to be allies 945 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:16,079 and we need to to do this allies with 946 00:37:12,240 --> 00:37:18,400 very gentle and generous and kind people 947 00:37:16,079 --> 00:37:20,079 yeah it's very important 948 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,440 and we 949 00:37:20,079 --> 00:37:26,000 also need 950 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:30,000 to write more about women not 951 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:33,040 also in wikipedia we need to write 952 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:34,400 more about women in media for example 953 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:37,280 because 954 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:39,599 we we know very well that we need 955 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:42,320 references when we are writing an 956 00:37:39,599 --> 00:37:43,920 article it's very important to write to 957 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,880 recovery 958 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,200 the 959 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,320 history about women 960 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:51,520 yeah 961 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:54,079 of course um just um 962 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:55,839 i'm just sharing to you some parts of 963 00:37:54,079 --> 00:37:57,680 our researching 964 00:37:55,839 --> 00:38:00,320 you could uh 965 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:02,800 you you could see next week 966 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,720 the version on english because now is 967 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,520 available in spanish 968 00:38:04,720 --> 00:38:09,359 but 969 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:13,119 well this is part of a year of very hard 970 00:38:09,359 --> 00:38:15,920 work and of course we have lots of plans 971 00:38:13,119 --> 00:38:20,400 to promoting women's participation in 972 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:22,800 wikipedia many things i think we can now 973 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:25,359 be in a conversation with the audience 974 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,359 many things 975 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:33,920 i don't think we have time for 976 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:35,520 for questions but we can see each other 977 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,680 in building one 978 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:39,920 fifth floor and 979 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:43,839 i think rachel will 980 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,839 respond your your questions 981 00:38:44,079 --> 00:38:47,599 so 982 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,680 we can enter wind one 983 00:38:47,599 --> 00:38:51,680 like 984 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:54,960 how can we make these articles about 985 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,960 women get more visits 986 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,520 what do you think 987 00:38:59,599 --> 00:39:06,240 well i think uh 988 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:09,119 the the for example uh talking about um 989 00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:10,400 project i think it's important 990 00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:13,440 to to 991 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:16,480 produce these worksheets but in at the 992 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:18,160 same time with a different events like 993 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,359 uh conferences 994 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,680 uh 995 00:39:19,359 --> 00:39:23,599 debates i think it's very important uh 996 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:26,480 to to be 997 00:39:23,599 --> 00:39:29,040 um and to make more visible 998 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:32,079 in those articles about women and and 999 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:33,040 connect with uh a kind of genealogy you 1000 00:39:32,079 --> 00:39:35,680 know 1001 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:39,200 the place of his historical level and 1002 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,200 understand that women 1003 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:43,119 have participated in the build of the 1004 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,320 world 1005 00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:47,680 yeah and 1006 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:48,800 and well we are on the half of humanity 1007 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:51,680 so 1008 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:54,800 we we have to be more visible so i think 1009 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:57,280 this is important and and also planning 1010 00:39:54,800 --> 00:40:00,720 according with a a very punctual and 1011 00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:02,880 unpopular uh popular in latin america is 1012 00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:03,760 something um 1013 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:07,599 not 1014 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:11,839 with fame i'm talking about a uh method 1015 00:40:07,599 --> 00:40:14,560 methodological education from the base 1016 00:40:11,839 --> 00:40:15,280 yeah from the popular culture 1017 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,640 the 1018 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,640 this um 1019 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:21,040 indigenous culture 1020 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:22,319 yeah and we have to recover that we have 1021 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,560 to 1022 00:40:22,319 --> 00:40:26,960 approach to the origin 1023 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:30,400 and the roots of our culture 1024 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:33,920 to that references make sense to 1025 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,920 make sense to people i think 1026 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,640 i have a lot of questions what the next 1027 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,800 the next of this investment 1028 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:43,440 investigation 1029 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:45,359 what's coming forward 1030 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,920 well we 1031 00:40:45,359 --> 00:40:49,520 have a lot of work in 1032 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:52,400 mexico because 1033 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:53,920 we have to plan in 1034 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:57,359 or make up a plan 1035 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:59,119 with media because we have to to 1036 00:40:57,359 --> 00:41:01,680 make visible this 1037 00:40:59,119 --> 00:41:04,480 research in this investigation and also 1038 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:07,040 we are planning um 1039 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:09,440 a program based in 1040 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:12,000 education with gender perspective 1041 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:14,880 to promote the the participation of 1042 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,880 women and also 1043 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,560 doing 1044 00:41:16,240 --> 00:41:21,200 allies with media 1045 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:23,119 because uh there's a very punctual 1046 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:26,160 interest in on 1047 00:41:23,119 --> 00:41:29,440 from women of media you know 1048 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:33,200 journalists writers uh 1049 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:35,839 indigenous communicators so we have to 1050 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:38,240 build this net 1051 00:41:35,839 --> 00:41:41,119 net in feminist 1052 00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:44,720 net you know to to try to work 1053 00:41:41,119 --> 00:41:46,960 according with our access and i think 1054 00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:49,119 that's two of 1055 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,319 the basic actions actions that we have 1056 00:41:49,119 --> 00:41:53,440 to develop 1057 00:41:50,319 --> 00:41:53,440 to the rest of the year 1058 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:58,160 thank you michael i love this 1059 00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:01,040 presentation 1060 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:04,000 and i just only went left one last 1061 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:05,440 question where we can find the finest 1062 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,440 version of this 1063 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:10,160 investigation 1064 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,160 yeah if you 1065 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:17,680 search on wikimedia commons 1066 00:42:13,359 --> 00:42:18,560 you can find in the version on spanish 1067 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,359 and 1068 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:22,880 next week in the version on english will 1069 00:42:21,359 --> 00:42:25,040 be available 1070 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:27,200 in in the same 1071 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,880 section in wikimedia 1072 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:31,280 comes 1073 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,880 and and you can find it 1074 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:36,240 in a 1075 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:38,880 name on spanish nosotros 1076 00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:38,880 wikipedia 1077 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:48,480 okay thank you a lot franco do you want 1078 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:51,040 to share another thing another message 1079 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:54,640 for the public 1080 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:57,119 yes what we have only one minute left so 1081 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:59,599 i'm very happy it was an honor 1082 00:42:57,119 --> 00:43:01,680 thank you very much to our community and 1083 00:42:59,599 --> 00:43:02,720 especially i want to 1084 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,920 a 1085 00:43:02,720 --> 00:43:08,800 thanks to our president carmen alcazar 1086 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:11,359 for all the support and also i want to 1087 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,720 thank to you my dear clau 1088 00:43:11,359 --> 00:43:15,359 claudia and 1089 00:43:12,720 --> 00:43:18,400 our dear alex 1090 00:43:15,359 --> 00:43:22,000 is a marvelous staff of 1091 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:25,920 mexico and i'm i feel really proud 1092 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:27,520 and grateful with with you guys so 1093 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,839 a very very 1094 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:33,680 strong hope for our community and our 1095 00:43:29,839 --> 00:43:35,359 international community many things 1096 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,520 thank you a lot 1097 00:43:35,359 --> 00:43:42,839 see you 1098 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:42,839 for the mexican people in in the chat 1099 00:43:45,050 --> 00:43:49,949 [Music]