User talk:Jarekt

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Possible problem[edit]

I think that colon (punctuation) (:) this template is a problem in croatian language. In croatian language, after colon, the only words with capital letter can be proper nouns (nomen proprium).

So, gramatically, {{hr|Johann Sebastian Bach}} is correct (displayed as Hrvatski: Johann Sebastian Bach, Johann is proper noun), but {{hr|Skladatelj Johann Sebastian Bach}} (displayed as Hrvatski: Skladatelj Johann Sebastian Bach) should be written {{hr|skladatelj Johann Sebastian Bach}} (displayed as Hrvatski: skladatelj Johann Sebastian Bach) (skladatelj = composer, not a proper noun). I hope that I explained good, my english is not so good.

Any idea to solve this?--MaGa 09:42, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

I suspect most languages have the same issue, but Template:Hr does not force anybody to use upper case. Serbian speakers should use
Hrvatski: skladatelj Johann Sebastian Bach
instead of
Hrvatski: Skladatelj Johann Sebastian Bach
. It is the same way as with capitalizing first letter in e sentence. It is up to people writing it to use it and if someone does no, I can not think of technical means to enforce it. --Jarekt (talk) 03:46, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
Well, I think that 90% users presume capital letter after the | character. How about idea of changing the colon character in something else?--MaGa 15:37, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
I do not know croatian language, but in Polish and in English colon seems to be the only punctuation sigh that make sense in this situation. --Jarekt (talk) 03:34, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
Yes, you're right, in croatian also. Any idea to solve this with somebody's bot?--MaGa 14:11, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Issue with template "Inline coordinates"[edit]

I’ve pinged you about this, so …

I’ve recently added on request the opportinity to show a label instead of the coordinates with template {{Inline coordinates}} (something that’s possible for years in dewiki with template de:Vorlage:Coordinate) – the necessary change for this is actually in {{Coord/link}}, though (and the param label added to the whole template chain). You can see the effect with the 2 last examples in {{Inline coordinates}} doc. Now user Barghaan who requested the change noticed that in mobile view the coordinates are not suppressed. Do you see why? Should we perhaps consider this a bug? If you also do not know what happens here who else could be asked in your opinion – presumingly Phabricator? — Speravir – 18:53, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Never mind: MediaWiki:Common.css is not applied in mobile view, am I right? Then that’s the issue (rules for geographical coordinates). Is there a special mobile CSS? (Edit:) I assume Templatestyles would be helpful, but need to be activated first. — Speravir – 20:14, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
Aah, there is MediaWiki:Mobile.css. Could you be so kind and copy the necessary rules from Common.css to it? — Speravir – 21:29, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
Speravir My specialty are templates and Lua codes, but I have very little understanding of .css files and .js and similar files. I sometimes help with very simple edits but in general I try to avoid them as I do not know enough about them not to break anything. Sorry. --Jarekt (talk) 03:52, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
Ah, OK. I originally pinged because I thought it would be a template issue, so bad luck. — Speravir – 00:23, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

Tech News: 2018-24[edit]

21:55, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Something broken with Wikidata units?[edit]


there seeems to be something amiss with units in the Artwork template (see Category:Woman baking bread-E 25213 for instance), I wonder if it could have been introduced with our revision here [6]. Do you have any idea?

Cheers! Rama (talk) 13:48, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Pictogram voting keep.svg Fixed Thanks for spotting this. --Jarekt (talk) 14:16, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Template:On OSM Autotranslate vs. Fallback[edit]

Hello, your bot changed for template {{On OSM}} (among a lot of others) the usage from {{Fallback}} to {{Autotranslate}}. In Commons:Forum someone complained this would have broken the template (Commons:Forum#Vorlage :On OSM). After the bot change was reverted it seems to work fine, again. Could this have been simply a caching issue? (I did no test, but just noticed the complain.)

On a general note. May I assume that your latest change in Module:Fallback means I could use named parameters in {{Autotranslate}}? Then Help:Autotranslate would need an update. — Speravir – 23:01, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Aah. I now see the param documentation in {{Autotranslate}} has changed … — Speravir – 23:03, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
{{Autotranslate}} when it was written as template only allowed unnamed parameters, but Lua version only did because nobody thought to allow named parameters. Now it can handle any parameters, and I was changing some {{Fallback}}s to {{Autotranslate}}s. {{Fallback}} still use the old fallback mechanism and were never upgraded to use modern Lua code. However, I discovered issues with {{Autotranslate}} which I described in phabricator:T196464. So now I am leaving {{Fallback}}s alone and thinking about just rewriting {{Fallback}} template to use modern Lua code. I have never seen Help:Autotranslate , but I can look at it to see if I can update it. --Jarekt (talk) 02:08, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Tech News: 2018-25[edit]

21:47, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

File:S.M. Re Vittorio Amedeo III di Savoia.png[edit]

HI dear Jarekt,

I am writing to ask you whether it would be possible to restore these files concerning some of these portraits of an unknown artist executed between the seventeenth and eighteenth century, the artist since he died for 100 years, the most correct license included in the following files was PD-100 ,,,,

--Глнстый Карой (talk) 23:27, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Глнстый Карой, Many of those files are low quality, with minimal metadata. If I restore them I would felt obliged to spend too much time at finding better metadata and looking for better images. --Jarekt (talk) 01:37, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

that's why I would like to ask you this favor, but some improved versions of those portraits I own, it is precisely the reason why I'm asking you, I have the best versions, no need to do it thanks to the thought, thanks a lot , but I would just like to ask you to limit yourself to restore them, because I will overwork them-- 09:53, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Out of scope?[edit]

Hi Jarek, regarding this picture. Can you delate it? Today I have taken a slightly better one. The former should have never been cropped for obvious reasons. Being the author, I am hanging my head in shame. Thank you. Boston9 (talk) 21:37, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

✓  Done , By the way this seemed like an interesting meeting. I found the book very useful when trying at some point to improve descriptions of the images in Getto warszawskie and Stroop Report. --Jarekt (talk) 02:55, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
Thank you! Yes, one of the best and the most informative. The seminal book on the Warsaw Ghetto. Thanks, again. Boston9 (talk) 06:18, 21 June 2018 (UTC)