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File:De-durchsetzt.oga, File:De-umfasst.oga[edit]

"File:De-durchsetzt-untrennbar.ogg" is not an obvious error in a file name, including misspelled. German verbs can be separable (trennbar) and inseparable (untrennbar) and they can have different pronunciations even if they are spelled the same way like durchsetzen (separable) and durchsetzen (inseparable). - 09:54, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

  • @Jeuwre: it was your request. Can you tell us more about these renamings, please? Wieralee (talk) 09:59, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
Hi Wieralee, according to "naming standards" (there is no written text!) the normal naming follows "De-" & content & ".ogg". So it's possible to link these pronunciation examples automatically via bots (e.g. derbethbot, there are more), so that every wiktionary can benefit from these examples. IMHO grammatical description (like "untrennbar") have no place in the naming of a file. See the mass of German pronunciation files in Category:German pronunciation. If there are two or more different pronunciations, I add a figure at the end of content: De-durchsetzt2.ogg (see also De-Band.oga, De-Band2.ogg), no naming standard as well, just often used practice. Regards --Jeuwre (talk) 10:13, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

Bilder BF Oldenburg[edit]

Danke für gleich mitdenken und passend machen :) --Vielen Dank und Grüße Woelle ffm (talk) 20:48, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Delete redirections[edit]

Good morning. In this edit you reverted my deletion of a wrong redirect, stating "we do not delete redirections if they are not totally misleading".

Unfortunately, this one is totally misleading: If you categorize a file with "Boeing 737-800 (Gol Transportes Aéreos)" by HotCat, which is the style that has only very recently being changed (and is still current in thousands of files), you get "Category:Boeing 737-800 to Gol Transportes Aéreos" - this is definitely the wrong category.

There are more of this type of wrong redirects, having obviously resulted by a bot which had been programmed carelessly.

Please be so kind and re-instate the deletion. Thank you. Regards --Uli Elch (talk) 11:01, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

  • @Uli Elch: it is good to understand the mechanism of renaming files/categories. Each file/category can be linked not only from wiki projects, but from other internet sites, too. When you will delete redirection you break these links. And you make Commons unbelievable for not-wiki users. An user who was linking this category on his blog, for example -- will see a red link one day. After such action he will not link to Commons any more :( External links are very important: if other users do not link to our domain, it goes down at browsers (Google, etc.). Therefore it is good to leave maybe a bit confusing redirection than remove them at all. Deleting redirects is the long-term activity to the detriment of the project.
But if you still would like to break links: no problem, go on. It's nothing personal. You can always rollback my edition -- I'll not oppose :-)
Thanks for your message. Have a nice day :-) Wieralee (talk) 13:16, 7 March 2017 (UTC)


Uff, no. It's kind of a pity the softeare is not ready for this kind of mass renaming, ideally we should be able to move the books and all the following pages... Please stand by and thanks for the heads up. Aubrey (talk) 18:50, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

File:20170217 (IMG 0629) New compound of AIT Taipei Office with construction sign of Taipei City Government 美國在台協會台北辦事處新館及台北市政府施工告示牌.jpg[edit]

{{Autotranslate|1=File:20170217 (IMG 0629) New compound of AIT Taipei Office with construction sign of Taipei City Government 美國在台協會台北辦事處新館及台北市政府施工告示牌.jpg|2=|3=|base=Idw}} [[User:Howard61313|Howard61313]] ([[User talk:Howard61313|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:11, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Da ich das gerade sehe[edit]

Bitte sei vorsichtig bei der Anpassung an gerade gültige Rechtschreibungen. Die Verkehrszeichen sind von mir so benannt, wie sie in der jeweiligen StVO erscheinen. Das gerade von Dir verschobene Zeichen mag ein Grenzfall sein, da die StVO 1992 erschien und eine erste Rechtschreibreform 1996 in Kraft trat. Aber bitte belasse historischen Zeichen ihren damaligen Namen. Ich habe schon erlebt daß Leute noch weiter gingen und aus "Tafeln", Bildern und "Schildern" das heutige "Zeichen" machen wollten. Aber das steht den historischen Vorgaben entgegen. Mediatus (talk) 20:20, 9 March 2017 (UTC)


Tutaj piszą, że junior był wnukiem Michała seniora. Ankry (talk) 01:13, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

Please stop renaming my files fGWR to GWR[edit]

When I upload a file with "fGWR" in the title it is there for a reason - to identify trains in first Great Western Railway livery as opposed to the new Great Western Railway livery. Please stop renaming them. Geof Sheppard (talk) 08:21, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

  • @Geof Sheppard: No problem. That is why "private shortcuts" are not welcome on Commons. Nobody knows what they mean. When you upload files on Commons -- you do it for all users, not for yourself. It is good to give them names for all users, not only for yourself... Consider it in the future, please.
Have a nice day :-) Wieralee (talk) 09:13, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
Wieralee I think you're being a bit unfair here. fGWR is a fairly obvious acronym within the rail community. I accept that a non-rail person wouldn't know what it means, but by the same chalk I have no idea what all sorts of medical acronyms would mean, but that doesn't mean they're wrong to use in file names. And of course people will put (as an example) MRI in a file name rather than Magnetic Resonance Imaging - filenames are meant to be comparatively short, we have the description field to explain things. -mattbuck (Talk) 17:35, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

File:Macaristan Prensliği bayrağı.png[edit]

Hi Wieralee,

the category is wrong, but I get blocked from removing it. Why are new users not enabled to revise this?--Patrioholic (talk) 10:47, 11 March 2017 (UTC)


Hi Wieralee, you changed categories and moved pictures, e.g. Category:Mannheim-Wallstadt to Category:Wallstadt. I think, that's not useful. Almost any category related to districts of Mannheim was named in the pattern Mannheim-XXX. That's the way how districts in German towns are named officially. You can see that on the road signs at the entrances of the districts. If you change the district names in the categories, several of them do not work though without Mannheim- (Mannheim, dash) because other places have identical names and are already named in that way. So your concept will not work throughout. The categories were correct so far. There is no reason to make confusion. I recommend you not to continue such kind of changes. It makes also sense to undo the changes you made so far - I think it's Category:Wallstadt and Category:Vogelstang. If you think, you have important reasons to remove "Mannheim", then we may discuss that. However I think there were clear category names, understandable for anyone, including connection to Mannheim. Your changes to not seem to be improvements. Regards -HubiB (talk) 17:01, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

  • @HubiB: I almost never manage a category movement by myself. Look here: it wasn't my decision. I'm only emptying redirected categories, because files placed in redirected categories are hidden. Wieralee (talk) 18:15, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
  • @NeverDoING: can you tell us more about this movements~, please? Wieralee (talk) 18:18, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
  • @HubiB:: @NeverDoING: is not answering :( But she didn't stop moving these categories. We have more categories with hidden files: Category:Nature of Schwetzingerstadt/Oststadt, Category:Churches in Schönau (Mannheim), Category:Churches in Seckenheim, Category:Buildings in Schwetzingerstadt/Oststadt and others... I am not cleaning them, as you wished... But I'm not sure if it's the best solution. Wieralee (talk) 15:50, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
    • I correctect to the names from dewiki--NeverDoING (talk) 06:18, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
      • NeverDoING, you suppose that the categories in German Wikipeda are correct and useful. Thats's not necessarily the case. If you look at the details you will see many differences which are made more randomly than with system. It might have been more useful, to check the German categories first. I cannot prevent you from continuing, but there could have been better solutions. -HubiB (talk) 18:56, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

File move[edit]

Thanks! Also, since I forgot, will you please move File:Kona Lanes 1960s-2002.jpg to File:Kona Lanes 1960–2002.jpg? Corrects both the file name and the n-dash. TIA. —ATS 🖖 talk 22:47, 17 March 2017 (UTC)


Hi Wieralee, Thanks for moving the images to the correct place,
Just out of curiosity how did you know I moved the images to a redirect target instead of the actual category as I obviously had no idea myself,
Thanks :), –Davey2010Talk 14:43, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

San Marino[edit]

Thanks.Done. I had forgotten to modify the autotranslate base--Pierpao.lo (listening) 05:15, 24 March 2017 (UTC)


Thank you for renaming the file Wieralee ! Sorry for the trouble, but here I'm not as easy as on Wikipedia. --Cangadoba (talk) 18:26, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

  • @Cangadoba: you are welcome :-) Don't give up, he beginnings are always difficult. Wieralee (talk) 18:34, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

More thanks[edit]

Hi. Thank you very much for all your help with cats. Could you also help me to clean up the people who are in Category:Members of Parliament of the Ottoman Empire? Many of them are also present in the "former" mother cat. Thanks in advance. --E4024 (talk) 13:22, 30 March 2017 (UTC)


@Wieralee: Thanks for the help in moving the images in the commons, it was very good! I am available. Thank you! Lucas.Belo (talk) 19:37, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

File:Francisco de Goya y Lucientes 046.jpg[edit]

You shouldn't have renamed this file. We have about 10.000 files named like this for over 12 years. Criterion #2 at Commons:File renaming really don't apply to these files. Multichill (talk) 14:34, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

@Multichill: on Commons:File_renaming page we have rules. I see, for example, that file named "File:Louvre 12.jpg" should be renamed for a new name: "File:Mona Lisa by Leonardo da Vinci.jpg". I don't see a rule: "If the file had a bad name for 12 years it must have bad name to the end". Can you explain me the difference, please? Is it your private opinion or an official admin statement? Wieralee (talk) 17:01, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
You're improving file names. This is a painting by "Francisco de Goya y Lucientes", that's correct name. The rule "Files should NOT be renamed only because the new name looks a bit better." "File:Louvre 12.jpg" doesn't contain any reference to indicate the creator or the name, "File:Francisco de Goya y Lucientes 046.jpg" does. The file name isn't bad so shouldn't be changed. Multichill (talk) 17:10, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
@Multichill: in examples for Criterion "Files should NOT be renamed only because the new name looks a bit better." we have punctuation changes only. I don't see any word about half-information names (it contain the author, but not the title). Can you change it on the Commons:File_renaming page to make it clear for all of 900+ renamers? We will have a ground for refusals. Wieralee (talk) 17:17, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
@Multichill: look at this revisions: [1] [2] [3] [4]. Four other users, including two admins, have considered such name changes as legitimate... We need more clear rules. Wieralee (talk) 17:25, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

UNESCO World Heritage Site..Historic Center of Quito...thanks....Monasterio Augustinas de la Encarnacion San Juan, Quito...great job[edit]

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David Adam Kess ....Wieralee has been identified as an Awesome Wikipedian,
so I've officially declared today as being a great person and awesome Wikipedian,UNESCO World Heritage Site..Historic Center of Quito...thanks

thanks David Adam Kess (talk) 9. April 2017 (UTC)

Capitalization in German[edit]

Hi Wieralee: Please move Category:Der baum (1860) → Category:Der Baum (1860).--Cabanis et Heine (talk) 15:46, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Category:Holy Masses by country[edit]

Hi Wieralee, could you explain why you have moved categories from a neutral term to a non-neutral term? Possibly massess are holy for Catholics, but this is not the Catholicpedia. Thanks --Discasto talk 16:07, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

  • @Discasto: it was on the list of requested moves: look here. Two weeks are considered as adequate time for possible objections. Six weeks had passed and there were no objections, so the procedure had to be fullfilled. Wieralee (talk) 17:09, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
You haven't answered my question. The procedure to move a category when it can be controversial is to have it explicitly listed for discussion: see Commons:Rename a category. It wasn't done and therefore it should be reverted. Feel free to nominate it for discussion. Thanks --Discasto talk 17:14, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
  • @Discasto: each person could mark this as controversial, but nobody did. I had moved it, because there were no objections. Wieralee (talk) 17:20, 16 April 2017 (UTC)


Discasto talk 21:17, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

Orchid moves - thank you[edit]

Hello Wieralee,

Thanks for moving the orchid files I had mislabelled and for doing it so quickly. Gderrin (talk) 23:35, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

Renaming videos[edit]

When renaming videos, please purge the file page after doing so, and then reset all the transcodes (at the bottom of the file page). Unfortunately (and it's a bug that has been complained about) when you do so the transcodes are not automatically recreated. Thanks. - Reventtalk 00:33, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

Your VFC installation method is deprecated[edit]

Hello Wieralee, we are aware that using the old installation method of VFC (via common.js, which you are using) may not work reliably anymore and can break other scripts as well. A detailed explanation can be found here. Important: To prevent problems please remove the old VFC installation code from your common.js and instead enable the VFC gadget in your preferences. Thanks! --VFC devs (q) 16:24, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Many thanks[edit]

Hello, many thanks for helping me with the category renames of the pictures I uploaded. --Veinticuatro de Jahén (talk) 08:51, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

File:Türkvizyon 2017 map.svg[edit]

Hi Wieralee, I'm afraid, but I don't get it. Can this request be treated as done in the meantime? Both of the maps seem to be assigned correctly to en:Turkvision Song Contest 2016 and en:Turkvision Song Contest 2017 or am I wrong? Or have the maps to be swapped? Dziękuję, best, --Achim (talk) 08:24, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

  • @Wesley Wolf: can you tell us more about this file, please? Thanks in advance :-) Wieralee (talk) 08:26, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
@Wieralee: Both maps are required, unfortunately. The 2016 contest was cancelled, and not all of the countries/regions who had planned to participate in the 2016 edition are doing so in the 2017 edition. Therefore the 2016 map needs to retain data so that it can be used on an article for the 2016 contest which details the historical information. Whilst a 2017 map is also required to show new details for the new contest. File talk:Türkvizyon 2016 map.svg#File move error, does explain all of this. Wes Wolf Talk 08:32, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
Wieralee, Wesley: Fine, so the pending renaming request can be cancelled as far as I can see, because both of the map files exist and are assigned correctly. Thus new versions of the map can be uploaded if needed for to replace the existing ones. Cheers, --Achim (talk) 09:39, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

Headquarters in English language[edit]

Please note, that "headquarters" in English language is only in plural form. "Headquarter" is not proper English. --CEphoto, Uwe Aranas (talk) 10:27, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

  • @Chongkian: can you tell us more about this renaming? Thanks in advance. Wieralee (talk) 10:34, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
  • Oh ok, then I'll switch them to headquarters. Thanks for informing that. Well, once renamed, the other names have to be standardized in the English name, unless with the exception that such name as its official English name. Chongkian (talk) 08:06, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

US PD licensing[edit]

I notice that your edits to the Frederick Douglass files (e.g. [5]) added a warning icon to all of the images. These are all originally from the United States, and so should not have a warning icon. You also removed the information that it is not under copyright in its country of origin. Please restore that information to all of the files you altered. --EncycloPetey (talk) 16:49, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

  • @EncycloPetey:: template {{PD-old-1923}} does not exist: we have template {{PD-1923}} instead. But it is the same. If you don't like it, choose another one instead. Wieralee (talk) 16:58, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
    {{PD-old-1923}} does exist. It is a redirect. In this case it is preferable to its companion templates because a firm date of 70 / 85 / etc, cannot be used. Template {{PD-1923}} is not the same because it is insufficient to state that the wrok is in PD in its country of origin. --EncycloPetey (talk) 17:02, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
  • @EncycloPetey: look what you have done here: Category:PD-Art (PD-old-1923). Your editions are listed on page with errors. I have repaired it, but you have rolled back them again :( Wieralee (talk) 19:46, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
    Then the category redirect should be fixed. The target category and target of the redirect do not match. --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:47, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
    Your "repairs" changed the licensing information on all the images. That should not happen. --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:52, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
  • @EncycloPetey: Template {{PD-old-70}} is not quite suitable for anonymous work. In such cases it is better to use templates {{Anonymous-EU}} and {{PD-1923}}. Wieralee (talk) 20:07, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
    How is {{Anonymous-EU}} relevant? That is an EU copyright This work was published in the United States, not the EU. And the problem with using {{PD-1923}} is that it does not identify the country of origin, which is the United States, but instead displays a warning requesting another template for US works. So that pair of templates is inappropriate for these images. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:11, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
  • @EncycloPetey: yes, I'm living in Europe, so it is different. But it doesn't matter. If you don't know the author, you can't be sure he has died more than 70 years ago. This photo was published (?) in 1892. If the author was 20, he could have been alive till 1967, for example. If it was unpublished, the {{PD-US-unpublished}} template seems to be best. Wieralee (talk) 20:21, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
    All of the images were published, so {{PD-US-unpublished}} is unhelpful. All the images come from the same 1892 book, and many of the etchings were previously published in the 1881 edition. Only a few etchings and some of the photographs were new for the 1892 edition.
    It is true that I do not know the date of death for the photographers and artists, but the images are PD in the US because they were published before 1923, and the US is also the country of origin. The date the person died is irrelevant for US copyright law. Commons requires that the images be PD for the US and the country of origin, but in this case those are the same country.
    Some of the photographs have also been released through American government archives. I have tried to research the etchings artists through their signatures, but have found no information through any database. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:29, 10 June 2017 (UTC)