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File:Paris, mairie du 10e arrdt, hall 04.jpg, featured[edit]
Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes.Voting period ends on 15 Dec 2016 at 19:23:09 (UTC)
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- Category: Commons:Featured pictures/Places/Interiors
- Info created and uploaded by Coyau - nominated by -- Benh (talk) 19:23, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
- Info To be viewed with the viewer before assessment.
- Support I find it Very impressive. -- Benh (talk) 19:23, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
- Support lNeverCry 19:36, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
- Support Hugely detailed. There some minor stitching errors and discontinuity in the central gold light fitting with some lens flare on half of it. But there is nothing can be done about that now, sadly. -- Colin (talk) 21:16, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
* Oppose size --Mile (talk) 21:25, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
- Support Corrections made. --Mile (talk) 08:46, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- Mile means file size, for those who are puzzled by the vote. - Benh (talk) 21:29, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
- Mile, this isn't a problem for the panorama viewer so I don't see why it should be a problem for Commons FP. There are gigapixel panoramas on the internet that offer an amazing chance to explore in all three dimensions, so there are possibilities for even larger files than this that would be highly educational. -- Colin (talk) 21:35, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
- Support - My experience, too - no difficulty at all in opening it in the 3D pano viewer, and it's certainly of FP quality. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:26, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
- Support --Yann (talk) 22:35, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
- Comment Stitching error (see note). -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 01:23, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
- Support Very well done and interesting subject. Honestly I can't believe that someone really opposes because of the file being too large. Mile, you must be kidding (and this is really a bad joke). Especially such 360° panoramas should be as large as possible in order to offer the possibility of zooming into the details. We should strongly encourage that. If you've for some strange reasons problems with files being too large then please, at least abstain from voting instead of opposing. --Code (talk) 06:16, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
- Code, I have seen someone oppose at FP because a file was too free (CC0). So anything is possible, not just on April 1st. -- Colin (talk) 08:43, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
- Support --Martin Falbisoner (talk) 06:53, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
- Info I dont see any reason for being at 170+ MB, i could see this "stitched with mistakes" in much lower MPx and wouldnt miss any value. Picture is medicore by quality, and i saw at lest 3 mistake, not mentionig flare. Code did you see anything !? --Mile (talk) 07:22, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
- Info 2 : Benh did you saw mistakes while uploading. Person did pass away as i see on his homepage. Rest in peace. But do we get any "bonus" with our pictures by that ?! Will our photography be more feautered ? Would you vote same if i was the author ? Re-think... --Mile (talk) 07:35, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
- I don't know. Mile, you support a 6MP image and yet complain about minor stitching issues only visible at 100% on a 450 MP image. Commons is a media repository and any sized image can be generated automatically in software when the image is rendered by the server or on your screen. The issue of the author's death is not that we should be more generous, but that there is no prospect to fix the image. Many of the nit-picking complaints at FP are made with the assumption that an active Commons user should be able to fix them and submit a new version. That isn't possible, so we just have to judge it for its pro and con as is. And the pro more than outweigh the con. -- Colin (talk) 08:43, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
- I was looking on 1/3 of resolution - 5 MPx wide. I found some mistakes in a minute and some are to large for FP. Looking at 100% i would probably find more of them. --Mile (talk) 09:06, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
OpposeI cannot judge this image as the largest size I can view is 1280 x 640. Charles (talk) 09:28, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
- The 3-D panorama viewer isn't working for you? -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:13, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
- No, just get some fixed 360 panorama. Charles (talk) 15:41, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
- @Charlesjsharp: Then you should use the viewer. The link has been mentioned twice, but here again : Link. If for some reason it doesn't work with you, then maybe it's better you remove your vote (which doesn't have much sense as it is). - Benh (talk) 16:23, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
- You say 'for some reason it doesn't work with you, then maybe it's better you remove your vote'. It's up to you to make it easy for us to vote on your image, so may be you should sort it rather than tell me how to vote. Charles (talk) 20:17, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
- Charles, how can Benh fix the issues with your PC or browser? Is he your local tech support? Are you having issues with other 360 panoramas or just this one? I have tried Chrome, Edge and Firefox and they all work fine. In terms of judging the JPG (should one wish to) have you tried downloading it and opening it in an image program (Photoshop, etc) rather than in a browser. I don't think it fair for you to oppose someone's image just because you are having technical issues of your own. -- Colin (talk) 20:30, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
- Hope you are kidding (but you look serious). You are a regular, yet you don't know how to reach the pano viewer... I did everything and gave proper warning (and Colin added similar instructions on top). Don't blame the picture because you don't read them or don't get the concept of 360°. - Benh (talk) 20:23, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
- No need to be so rude. I have opened the panoramic viewer in Explorer and Chrome. Both show a fixed 360 deg panorama different from the image in the submission. @Benh: Perhaps it would be more polite to suggest a solution rather than insulting me. I am not an idiot. Charles (talk) 20:56, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
- The polite thing would be to read before making false accusations. Everything is explained. - Benh (talk) 21:30, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
- Support Featurable. Thanks Benh. in memoriam Coyau, who passed away one week ago...--Jebulon (talk) 17:58, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
- Support Our interior panoramas are always so well done ... I enjoy them more than the ones on Google. Daniel Case (talk) 20:32, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
- Info @INeverCry, Colin, PetarM, Ikan Kekek, Code, and Yann: @Martin Falbisoner, Daniel Case, Martin Falbisoner, Jebulon, and Charlesjsharp: I took the liberty to fix many (not all) of the stitching errors and to upload it over Coyau's original version. I also compressed the picture a bit further, resulting in a file a quarter as big and probably without noticeable quality loss to most. Could you make sure it still is on par with your votes ? Feel free to let know if I can fix other stitching errors while I keep the huge tif at home. - Benh (talk) 23:35, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
- I have opened and looked at this version, but how do I open the previous version in the 3D pano viewer to be able to toggle back and forth and compare them? -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:15, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- @Ikan Kekek: Hmm this is an issue. I haven't found how to do that. Panoviewer is based on [Pannelum] and looks to have been added to Wikipedia by user:Dschwen. On the Pannellum tutorial we can specify a source from its full URL, but I wasn't able to replicate with panoviewer. I've tried with the viewer on pannellum's website [1] but it says the panorama is too big. What I personally do is downloading the image and view it at home with a viewer. this one works good with me. Yes it's a bit troublesome. - Benh (talk) 08:54, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks for checking into this. It seems like too much trouble, so I'll just ask you: Did you decrease the brightness in any part of the image when editing it? -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:03, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- I did, in the whole image. But it's a very small adjustment. You'll have to trust me when I claim to have fixed many stitching errors :) But it's quite noticeable even at panoviewer size (Miles was right, we could see them clearly). - Benh (talk) 09:13, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- I guess I was right, then. I was a bit disturbed by feeling a loss of light. I definitely trust you on the stitching errors, which I didn't notice in the first place. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:46, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- Sorry my mistake... I *increased* brightness. But very slightly (I found it was a bit dark, but I didn't want to make too obvious changes without making it a derivative work). - Benh (talk) 09:55, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- Ah, so my perception was wrong. In that case, since I voted for the first version, there's surely no good reason for me to change my vote. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 11:43, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- Support per Jeb. Jee 04:10, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- Support --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 04:48, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- Support -- Johann Jaritz (talk) 03:08, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
Confirmed results:
This image will be added to the FP gallery: Places/Interiors