Commons:Quality images candidates/Archives November 20 2019

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Consensual review[edit]

File:Boston_Common_-_Boston,_MA_-_DSC04234.jpg[edit]

  • Nomination Boston Common, Massachusetts, U.S. By User:Daderot --Another Believer 05:39, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Decline
  •  Support Good quality. -- Johann Jaritz 05:45, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose distorted, perspective correction needed --George Chernilevsky 08:38, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose per George --Milseburg 07:05, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose per George.--Peulle 09:39, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
Total: 1 support (excluding the nominator), 3 oppose → Declined   --Peulle 08:16, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

File:Ratargul_Swamp_Forest_I_Md_Morsalin_Photography_13.jpg[edit]

  • Nomination Ratargul Swamp Forest, Sylhet, Bangladesh. --IqbalHossain 09:04, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Decline
  •  Support Good quality.--Horst J. Meuter 16:46, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose - Land is not well photographed from this cellphone, and even the water is a bit iffy in quality. That might be improvable, in which case, I'm willing to reconsider. However, there needs to be a category for the boats, not just the swamp forest. -- Ikan Kekek 22:31, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Looks good in thumbnail, but nothing is quite sharp in 100% view. --Axel 13:13, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose not sharp enough, lost detail --George Chernilevsky 16:03, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose per others.--Peulle 09:38, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
Total: 1 support (excluding the nominator), 4 oppose → Declined   --Peulle 08:16, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

File:Chiesa_di_San_Bernardo_Brescia.jpg[edit]

  • Nomination San Bernardo church in Brescia. --Moroder 15:22, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Decline
  • Too much chroma noise and the WB looks off --Poco a poco 20:03, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
  •  I withdraw my nomination The wb is perfect, CN is irrelevant --Moroder 21:20, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
  • @Moroder Please let's discuss this. You have  Strong support from me. --Podzemnik 22:06, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
  •  Comment Since technically this would be the 6th of my photos posted today (that's why I withdrew), I consider you as nominator and cancel my withdrawal. Thanks for your support --Moroder 22:44, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose per Poco. While sharpness, lighting of the main object, and composition are excellent, there is really surprisingly strong chroma noise in dark areas. I think the shadow areas respectively dark image areas (esp. the trees and the door of the building) have been brightened too much. --Smial 10:26, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose The left side of the building is leaning in.--Peulle 09:36, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
Total: 0 support (excluding the nominator), 2 oppose → Declined   --Peulle 08:17, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

File:Großweikersdorf_Waasen_16.jpg[edit]

  • Nomination Objekt in der Kellergasse „Waasen" in Großweikersdorf (Niederösterreich). --Manfred Kuzel 05:48, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Promotion
     Support Good quality. --Poco a poco 07:13, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
     Oppose I disagree. Verticals need a fixing. --Ermell 08:26, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
    * Which verticals do you mean? --Manfred Kuzel 11:24, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
    The corners of the house. --Ermell 22:47, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
    Easy to fix. --Ermell 22:48, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
     Comment The building edges of these old buildings are not always straight because they were often built by the winegrowers without the help of a builder or bricklayer. This becomes quite clear at the left vertical edge of the building, which flies back upstairs. And that can not be straightened! --Manfred Kuzel 07:32, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
  • @Manfred Kuzel: This is a brand new building and was certainly not built by winegrowers in their spare time.--Ermell 10:05, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
  • @Ermell: Sorry, this is no brand new building, but an old and restored building where wine used to be made. --M@nfred (talk) 10:51, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
  •  Comment - Seems like good quality to me, but could you be more specific than "Object" in your file description? This is a house, isn't it? -- Ikan Kekek 09:12, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
    *Answer: The "objects in cellar lanes" are almost exclusively “press houses”. A term that hardly anyone understands outside the areas where there are cellar lanes. --Manfred Kuzel 10:49, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
  •  Comment - It's not hard to understand if these were houses where wine grapes were pressed. "Object" is as general as "thing". To me, it's quite unsatisfactory as a description. I feel like voting to decline all pictures with such descriptions. -- Ikan Kekek 12:53, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Answer: I think we judge the photographic quality here and not the description. --Manfred Kuzel 14:46, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
  • And you would be incorrect in thinking that. The Guidelines for QIs also lists image page requirements, and they include "an accurate description".--Peulle 08:29, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose - And I'll vote to decline this photo on that basis and await your next move, reserving the right to vote to decline all images with such descriptions. -- Ikan Kekek 09:38, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
@Ikan Kekek: Then please give me a better description, which also understands someone who does not know what a "cellar lane" is. --Manfred Kuzel 10:43, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
Why would you want to do that? There is always somebody that won't understand what a word means. That's part of the educational role of a lexicon. I say let's use the correct words to describe something, and if somebody out there has never heard of that something, they can look it up. :) --Peulle 11:03, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
The problem is that in the cellar lanes today hardly a former press house is used for winemaking. Many are totally unused and abandoned to decay, others adapted to weekend homes and some are sometimes used as Heurigenlokale. How should I describe such a building differently than "object"? --Manfred Kuzel 17:20, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
That's like asking how you would describe a no-longer-used Roman temple to Diana, other than "object". Write "former press house". -- Ikan Kekek 01:54, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
@Ikan Kekek: "former press house" is not necessarily true without having seen the object inside. Some cellars were also used only as a storage cellar for barrels or even for bottles! --Manfred Kuzel 06:33, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
"Former press house and/or storage cellar". -- Ikan Kekek 04:49, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
@Ikan Kekek: But that could also be or have been a wine tavern. Without insight into the interior, every description is pure speculation. --Manfred Kuzel 07:04, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
If you really have no idea what the purpose of the building was and no way to find out from any clues you can see, at least you could use a more specific word than "object". In English, we don't usually consider things as big as a house to be "objects", anyway. So I guess if you have no way of being more specific, you could at least call it a "building on a wine-making street" or something like that. You may have a better idea of how to describe the street, but at least "building" is better than "object". -- Ikan Kekek 08:40, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
@Ikan Kekek: "Object" is a synonym for home, building, estate, land, as long as they can not be specified. And that is the case here, if you have not seen the building inside. And "wine-making street" is an absolute no go, because no one would even think of renaming Broadway to a "broad path". A Kellergasse is and remains a Kellergasse. --Manfred Kuzel 08:20, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
 Question So the German word "Objekt" is a false friend with the English word "object"? Could another German-speaker confirm that "Objekt" is a synonym for "building"? "Object" absolutely is not in English. I'm fine with Kellergasse. -- Ikan Kekek 09:27, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
Answer @Ikan Kekek: I am a certified cellar lane guide and you can believe me. Incidentally, you can easily find the synonyms for the German word "object" on Google.--Manfred Kuzel 15:08, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
 Support - OK, I'll tentatively drop my opposition and support on that basis. But whenever there's an English description, use "building" or some other word that's more specific and relevant than "object". -- Ikan Kekek 20:14, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
Total: 3 support (excluding the nominator), 1 oppose → Promoted   --Peulle 08:18, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

File:Großweikersdorf_Waasen_15.jpg[edit]

  • Nomination entrance to a cellar tube in Kellergasse „Waasen" in Großweikersdorf (Niederösterreich). --Manfred Kuzel 05:48, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Decline
     Support Good quality. --Poco a poco 07:13, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
     Oppose Too noisy and blurry. Sorry. --Ermell 08:24, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
  •  Support per Poco. -- Ikan Kekek 09:06, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
  •  Comment - Supporting vote withdrawn because "object" is not a description of anything. Tell the viewer what they're looking at. -- Ikan Kekek 05:24, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
Question: Does anyone understand "entrance to a cellar tube"? --Manfred Kuzel 06:41, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
While looking at this picture? Sure. -- Ikan Kekek 04:50, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
✓ Done: Description changed. --Manfred Kuzel 06:58, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
  • I'll reinstate my  Supporting vote, but could you change the German-language description, too? -- Ikan Kekek 08:34, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose unsharp and big shadow cuts main subject. Seven Pandas 00:57, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose per Ermell.--Peulle 09:34, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
Total: 2 support (excluding the nominator), 3 oppose → Declined   --Seven Pandas 00:57, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

File:Staumauer_im_Detail_Bleilochtalsperre_20191026_002.jpg[edit]

  • Nomination The dam in detail of a water reservoir in Thuringia, Germany. --PantheraLeo1359531 16:01, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Decline
  •  Support Good quality --Michielverbeek 17:03, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
  •  Oppose Please, clean up the image of dust spots --Poco a poco 18:44, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
    • ✓ Done Dust spots removed --PantheraLeo1359531 13:56, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
      •  Not done Sorry, not done. Some more spots to see. --Steindy 23:07, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
  •  Comment Just added a note where there are 2 spots Poco a poco 19:20, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

✓ Done Thanks for the review, dust spots are vanished :) --PantheraLeo1359531 20:02, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

  •  Oppose - I'm sorry, the sky is blotchy. I doubt that's OK for QI. -- Ikan Kekek 06:46, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
Total: 1 support (excluding the nominator), 2 oppose → Declined   --Peulle 08:17, 19 November 2019 (UTC)