Commons talk:Turning off local uploads
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[edit]On the Icelandic Wikipedia we do not allow free licenced pictures to be uploaded. But fair use images are welcome. Dose that qualify it to be listed? --Steinninn 02:39, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
- I think so. But what happens if someone uploads a free image? Does it get transferred to Commons or just deleted? What kind of info do you provide about Commons? --pfctdayelise (说什么?) 11:25, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
- Everyone gets this page when they hit "upload file", similar to the english one, exept, when you hit "my own work" or anything that should be at commons you just get transfered to commons. If it still gets uploaded they should be in this category. --Steinninn 21:02, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
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[edit]If a project turnes of the local upload, how do they update their local logo? --Steinninn 21:00, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
- I think the developers take care of logos anyway, don't they? (Besides which, turning off local uploads doesn't mean all your existing files get deleted! They only get deleted if you delete them.) pfctdayelise (说什么?) 10:48, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
- Well, what if I want to update the logo? Anyway, we found the solution. We asked that local uploads be only available for admins. --Steinninn 18:02, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
Images PD in source countries but considered copyrighted in the USA
[edit]I would like to mention Template_talk:Not-PD-US-URAA as turning off local uploads will create a major problem as to what exactly should be done to affected images.--Jusjih 02:10, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
- While this is an old comment, I agree. Turning off local uploads is causing major problems due to Commons' strict copyright policy going beyond what is needed for Wikimedia Projects i.e. the requirement for photos to be free both in the country of origin and in the US, while only latter is essential. I brought this up in Wikimania 2011 with File:Freedom of panorama and Wikimedia Commons.pdf. I think this issue should be mentioned on the page. CT Cooper · talk 20:31, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
See. Nemo 14:29, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
Spanish wikipedia as an example
[edit]Over the years I've come across many aggrieved users who have uploaded files to Commons for use at es:wiki, only for them to be deleted. The thing is they see the same images being used at en:wiki, and really can't comprehend why en:wiki can use the image and they can't. The reason of course is that Commons does not allow fair use and that users cannot license under ND or NC.
So for me, if I was voting at the smaller wikis I edit at, the example of es:wiki is a great reason not to support the disabling of uploads to my local wiki. As a commited Commonist I would still encourage the upload of images to Commons where appropriate, but Commons is too retrictive for me to be happy to give up totally the ability of having local uploads.--KTo288 (talk) 17:46, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
- This comment really belongs in the Meta RFC. I agree though that Commons' inability to handle fair use on behalf of Wikimedia projects is a problem; but the solution of allowing it isn't going to happen, so projects need to do it themselves, or accept that they won't have content fair use projects do. Rd232 (talk) 18:05, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
- Many projects have decided not to have fair use, for example because fair use would make articles illegal in the countries where the project's language primarily is spoken. If individual users don't understand that and upload files incompatible with image use policy, well, just delete those images. I see similar problems on English Wikipedia: lots of users upload images which don't comply with the strict en:WP:NFCC rules. --Stefan4 (talk) 21:33, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
- I understand, the es:wiki community chose not to have fairuse, and if they have a beef with fairuse, its a question for their community. Other communities, ja:wiki comes to mind, has even stricter usage conditions than Commons. I of course delete any fair use material I find here, however when the same problem repeatedly crops up with different users working on different articles, the conclusion is that something
is wrongneeds to be done to better explain things. I can just about explain my reasons for deletion to es user using the es templates and google translate. If the decision comes to switch off local uploads we're going to have to work out how to explain things in those local languages.--KTo288 (talk) 16:31, 14 May 2012 (UTC)- Doesn't referring to Commons:Fair use cover it? (It could use translation into more languages.) Rd232 (talk) 12:12, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
- Probably, I have a scene playing out in my head of trying to explain fair use to someone speaking only Marathi or something similar. Translating Commons:Fair use into as many languages as possible is the kind of thing we have to think out and have in place before any major switch off, especially with the smaller language communities- where the number of editors here with the language skills neccessary to engage with those wiki communities is small.--13:08, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
- Doesn't referring to Commons:Fair use cover it? (It could use translation into more languages.) Rd232 (talk) 12:12, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
- I understand, the es:wiki community chose not to have fairuse, and if they have a beef with fairuse, its a question for their community. Other communities, ja:wiki comes to mind, has even stricter usage conditions than Commons. I of course delete any fair use material I find here, however when the same problem repeatedly crops up with different users working on different articles, the conclusion is that something
- Many projects have decided not to have fair use, for example because fair use would make articles illegal in the countries where the project's language primarily is spoken. If individual users don't understand that and upload files incompatible with image use policy, well, just delete those images. I see similar problems on English Wikipedia: lots of users upload images which don't comply with the strict en:WP:NFCC rules. --Stefan4 (talk) 21:33, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
Complete list of wikis
[edit]In case someone wants to update the page without digging [1] as I just did, these are all the wikis with currently disabled uploads:
- wikidata
- enwikiquote
- eswiki
- eswikibooks
- eswikiquote
- eswikivoyage
- euwiki
- itwikiquote
- jawikisource
- jawiktionary
- loginwiki
- ndswiki
- outreachwiki
- plwikiquote
- ptwikivoyage
- ptwiktionary
- ruwikiquote
- specieswiki
- svwiki
- svwikiversity
- viwikivoyage
- vowiki
- xmfwiki
Plus all Wikinews except:
- arwikinews
- cswikinews
- dewikinews
- enwikinews
- fawikinews
- hewikinews
- itwikinews
- kowikinews
- nowikinews
- plwikinews
- trwikinews
Plus the following which have upload enabled but only for sysops and/or other special groups (usually for emergencies and the like):
- bgwiki
- ckbwiki
- cswiki
- cswikibooks
- cswikinews
- cswikiquote
- cswikisource
- cswiktionary
- enwikibooks
- enwiktionary
- eswiktionary
- guwiki
- guwikisource
- incubatorwiki
- iswikibooks
- iswikiquote
- iswiktionary
- itwikivoyage
- itwiktionary
- jawikiversity
- kowikinews
- lawiki
- metawiki
- ruwiki
- sewikimedia
- skwikisource
- svwikisource
- svwiktionary
- ukwikivoyage
- zhwikinews