Template talk:Creator

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Statistics (Please do not archive)

Date	Number of Creator templates	Number of Files using Creator template
21 March 2009	3049
1 March 2010		‎125k
3 May 2010		‎185k
15 January 2011	6430	281k
29 March 2011	7488	321k
29 June 2011	8698	379k
22 January 2012	10,285	452k
4 April 2013	15,441	872k

This template breaks attribution chains in the information template

Something about the coding of this template breaks the information template when part of a bulleted list - see File:Fast aeroplane with motion lines.png. Thryduulf (talk) 19:49, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

What exactly is the problem? The only problem I see is you taking ownership of a file you just cropped from a Latuff work. --Denniss (talk) 22:49, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

The problem is that the author information field should read:

• File:Bombs print.jpg: Carlos Latuff
• Derivative work: Chris McKenna (user:Thryduulf)

However what it actually shows is only the first of those lines, with the derivative work line above the information template removed from any context. This is not a major problem with this image as the modifications I made (cropping, converting to indexed png, cleaning up jpeg artefacts, removing the Israeli flag from the aircraft and removing the falling paper/bombs/whatever) are relatively minor, however exactly the same problem will occur whenever anyone creates an image derived from one or more other images that attribute the creator using this template.

I would also appreciate you explaining how my noting myself as the creator of derived work (in accordance with policy) is a problematic? Thryduulf (talk) 00:22, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

I've been aware of the problem for a while, and I'm sure I've mentioned it before. You can't use bullets with Creator templates in the Info template, as it puts later Creator templates outside (above) the Info template, far away from where they should be. The only immediate solution is not to use bullets (use <br/> to force a newline "manually"). I'm pretty sure the problem is with the Info template, however, not the Creator template, but I could be wrong. A problem that is with the Creator template is that it puts a newline after itself, so you can't use it in the middle of a sentence, as would often be handy in a description for instance. Rd232 (talk) 07:58, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Also mentioned in 2011: Template_talk:Information/Archive_3#Poblems_with_lists. It's possible that an eventual conversion of the template to Lua might be an opportunity to finally fix this. Rd232 (talk) 07:59, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Rd232, is right - it is a known issue we do not have solution for. See template:Artwork/testcases for more examples. The key is not to use bullets with {{creator}} or {{institution}} templates. I applied standard workaround to File:Fast aeroplane with motion lines.png. --Jarekt (talk) 11:41, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Only says "birth" even if also death-info

The following:

{{Creator
 | Name              = Fortuné Méaulle
 | Birthdate         = 1844-04-11
 | Birthloc          = Angers
 | Deathyear         = 1901
 | Deathloc          = 
}}

displays as:

Fortuné Méaulle (1844–1901)
Date of birth	11 April 1844	1901
Location of birth	Angers

in which the second row is titled "Date of birth" even though it also has death-date info (the "1901" in the separate cell has no context). DMacks (talk) 14:12, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

That is because we do not use deathyear much. It is only if death date uses some templates. But it still should be fixed. --Jarekt (talk) 14:36, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Fixed See

Fortuné Méaulle (1844–1901)
Alternative names	Fortuné Louis Méaulle, Fortuné-Louis Méaulle
Description	French engraver
Date of birth/death	11 April 1844	1901
Location of birth	Angers
Authority control	VIAF: 19249590 LCCN: no92030245 GND: 124674437 BnF: cb13756092r ULAN: 500067413 WorldCat

--Jarekt (talk) 14:39, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the prompt solution! DMacks (talk) 15:13, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Wikidata

What is the relationship of Template:Creator and Wikidata? Can the Creator templates be created automatically using Wikidata? --Robert.Allen (talk) 08:10, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

At the moment, there is no relationship because Wikimedia Commons is not able to draw information from Wikidata like the Wikipedias are. This could be done at some point in the future − and once it is I do believe Creator templates would be one of the first Commons feature to use it. See d:Wikidata:Wikimedia Commons for more information on the current status. Jean-Fred (talk) 08:50, 14 June 2013 (UTC)