User talk:Chumchum7

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Petliura

As you probably know the matter is a tad complicated. In theory all Ukrainian areas captured during the spring offensive on Kiev were controlled by Ukrainian civilian authorities, Piłsudski paid much attention not to forage, conscript or do anything that could enrage Ukrainians or make Petlura's situation more difficult. However, the exact area under Ukrainian civilian control was pretty much shifting all the time and defining its' borders is impossible. That's the basic reason I went for simplified military control borders. I know my maps are simplified (oversimplified perhaps) as the situation in Central Europe in the period between 1918 and 1920 was too chaotic to represent it accurately. Towns changing names, six Ukraines (UNR, ZUNR, Makhno, Whites, Reds and Greens), at least three Russias (Reds, multiple factions of Whites, Greens) four Polands (Poland, Greater Poland, Silesia, Central Lithuania all being de facto independent states), German occupation zone ("Ober-Ost") in between...

I included the ZUNR area in this map, but it's of course also flawed, in that it doesn't show the mess in what later became the USSR (nor does it show the mess in Poland itself). 85.222.93.56 10:24, 27 July 2010 (UTC)