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{{inaccurate|1=1) Did Haishenwei/Haishenwai exist in 1820? 2) Compare Tibet's northern boundary to https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Qing_dynasty_and_Tibet.jpg which is a much different boundary from the same year.}} |
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{{citation needed|date=August 2020|1=The map is in direct conflict with File:Qing Empire circa 1820 EN.svg concerning Sakhalin. What is sourceable that shows Sakhalin and the east coast of Taiwan were subject to Qing Manchu rule in the year 1820? <BR>Answer: that Qing Empire circa 1820 EN map is poorly made and didn't show Ladakh before Dogra-Tibetan war as Tibetan territory. The Sakhalin Island (ᠰᠠᡥᠠᠯᡳᠶᠠᠨ ᡠᠯᠠ ᠠᠩᡤᠠ ᡥᠠᡩᠠ) was drawn on 18th century's Manchu maps. Wei Yuan (1794-1857)'s ''Sheng Wu Ji'' (聖武記) documented "太祖遣兵四百收瀕海散各部,其島居負險者刳小舟二百往取,庫頁內附,歲貢貂皮,設姓長、鄉長子弟以統之。" Page 461 of "Translation of Old Manchu documents of [[:w:en:yamen]] of [[:w:zh:三姓副都統|Sanxing Fu-dutong]]" (三姓副都统衙门满文档案) documented that the Nivkhs (費雅喀人) on the island was ruled by Qing "居住海島之庫頁費雅喀人貢貂,則由三姓副都統衙門派出官兵,前往約定之奇集噶珊收集貢貂並頒賞烏林。如不前來約定之地,則令官兵尋入海島,喚起前來,徵收貂皮並頒賞烏林。" By 1820 there was no evidence showing Qing has ceded those territories to any other states. <BR>For Taiwan please refer to English Wikipedia article [[Taiwan under Qing rule]] and check its references. I'm not here to explain you common knowledges.}} |
{{citation needed|date=August 2020|1=The map is in direct conflict with File:Qing Empire circa 1820 EN.svg concerning Sakhalin. What is sourceable that shows Sakhalin and the east coast of Taiwan were subject to Qing Manchu rule in the year 1820? <BR>Answer: that Qing Empire circa 1820 EN map is poorly made and didn't show Ladakh before Dogra-Tibetan war as Tibetan territory. The Sakhalin Island (ᠰᠠᡥᠠᠯᡳᠶᠠᠨ ᡠᠯᠠ ᠠᠩᡤᠠ ᡥᠠᡩᠠ) was drawn on 18th century's Manchu maps. Wei Yuan (1794-1857)'s ''Sheng Wu Ji'' (聖武記) documented "太祖遣兵四百收瀕海散各部,其島居負險者刳小舟二百往取,庫頁內附,歲貢貂皮,設姓長、鄉長子弟以統之。" Page 461 of "Translation of Old Manchu documents of [[:w:en:yamen]] of [[:w:zh:三姓副都統|Sanxing Fu-dutong]]" (三姓副都统衙门满文档案) documented that the Nivkhs (費雅喀人) on the island was ruled by Qing "居住海島之庫頁費雅喀人貢貂,則由三姓副都統衙門派出官兵,前往約定之奇集噶珊收集貢貂並頒賞烏林。如不前來約定之地,則令官兵尋入海島,喚起前來,徵收貂皮並頒賞烏林。" By 1820 there was no evidence showing Qing has ceded those territories to any other states. <BR>For Taiwan please refer to English Wikipedia article [[Taiwan under Qing rule]] and check its references. I'm not here to explain you common knowledges.}} |
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