Category talk:8 mm Lebel

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Category:Pistol and rifle cartridges

The naming of metric cartridges is all over the map in this category. A standard format should be decided on and applied. Josh (talk) 21:52, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

Current names in use include various different formats:

1. Category:9 × 19 mm Parabellum: (diameter) (space) (special ×) (space) (lenth) (mm) (space) (name): Full dimension format using special × with name or code appended.
2. Category:13 × 64 mm: (diameter) (space) (special ×) (space) (length) (space) (mm): Full dimension format using special × without name or code
3. Category:10.75 x 58mm R: (diameter) (space) (normal x) (space) (length) (mm) (space) (code): Hybrid dimension format (spaced x, non-spaced unit) using normal x and name or code appended.
4. Category:20 x 102 mm: (diameter) (space) (normal x) (space) (length) (space) (mm): Full dimension format using normal x when no name is needed or associated with the cartridge.
5. Category:13.25×92 mm SR TuF: (diameter) (special ×) (length) (space) (mm) (space) (code): Hybrid dimension format (non-spaced ×, spaced unit) with code.
6. Category:12.7×108 mm: (diameter) (special ×) (length) (space) (mm): Hybrid dimension format (non-spaced ×, spaced unit) without associated name or code.
7. Category:10.4×38mm Swiss Rimfire: (diameter) (special ×) (length) (mm) (space) (name): Compact dimension format using special × with full name appended.
8. Category:10.4x47mmR: (diameter) (normal x) (length) (mm) (code): Compact dimension format using normal x with name appeded without a space.
9. Category:5mm/35 SMc: (diameter) (mm) (/) (length) (space) (name): Compact slashed dimension format with name appended
10. Category:7x57R: (diameter) (normal x) (length) (code): Unit-less dimension format using normal x with code appended without a space
11. Category:10.75x68: (diameter) (normal x) (length): Unit-less dimension format using normal x.
12. Category:7.5mm Nagant: (diameter) (mm) (space) (name): Diameter-only dimension format without unit space with name appended
13. Category:7.62 Tokarev: (diameter) (space) (name): Unit-less diameter-only dimension with name appended

There are probably some other variations I missed, but more than a dozen different formats is enough to warrant some amount of harmonization. At first approach, it would seem that format number 1 or 3 above (with 2 or 4 as an alternate if no reasonable name is appropriate to append) would be the best for readability, as most of the others are various ways to list the information in more compact forms. Since readability of category names is more important that an absolute minimum character count (afterall, "9 × 19 mm Parabellum" is not exactly a super long name anyway), that would be my leaning. Standard 'x' is certainly better for accessability for users, but perhaps there is a case that '×' is more technically correct from some perspective so should be the direction to go. Josh (talk) 23:27, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

Side note for this discussion: I would recommend that any cartridge which is known by multiple common names have redirects in place for those names, and that if we go with special '×' that redirects using normal 'x' be in place as well for each of them. Josh (talk) 23:27, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

I certainly support using a regular x rather than ×. - Themightyquill (talk) 12:42, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

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@Themightyquill: Closed (standardize with 'D x L mm Name' format for cartridges) Josh (talk) 19:05, 12 October 2020 (UTC)