Category talk:Warrior of Moixent

Guerrer de Moixent vs. Guerrero de Mogente

• Mogente exist in wp.es: Mogente
• Guerrero de Mogente also exist: Guerrero de Mogente

Respect to the correct name, see this and that.

The polemic is served. Dorieo (talk) 20:04, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, it looks like it's just a language difference; Mogente is the spanish and Moixent the portugese. -— Isarra ༆ 21:27, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I must explicated it early: Mogente is in spanish, Moixent in catalan and valencian languages. Dorieo (talk) 02:52, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Or that. I guess I the point is that Commons doesn't discriminate between languages. Does it? -— Isarra ༆ 18:02, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Like Dorieo said, Moixent is the Catalan name, and Mogente the Spanish name. Both are official languages in the territory where this town is located. The reason to move the category was that Mogents doesn't exist, and it is not true. --Millars (talk) 20:40, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Moixent is, legally, Valencian-language predominant territory, so if We must choose between one of both languages, We should choose the predominant.--Coentor (talk) 21:20, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Indeed, the links of the prehistoric museum of Valencia shows that, in Spanish, they use the form "Moixent" and don't "Mogente".--Coentor (talk) 21:23, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

I answered to you because the template you put. You demanded to move the category "because Mogente didn't exist" and this is simply false. Later, we can discuss about which name, in which language is better to have the name of the category. But this is another question. --Millars (talk) 21:26, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Very Well, a formalism. I'll change the template. Now: Which is the reason for keeping the Spanish exonym in a Valencian Language population? --Coentor (talk) 21:31, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

And what about guerrero -> guerrer and not warrior? Are you talking about the name of the item, the name of the place? Here we are talking about the name of the Warrior. So, the best is to look for the academical name in English (usually we give names in Commons in English, and more when we have more than one). We can find "Warrior of Moixent" and "Warrior of Mogente". How to solve this? --Millars (talk) 21:49, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

By the way, the official name of the municipality is Mogente/Moixent. --Millars (talk) 22:04, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

The Valencian Government uses the form Moixent in english texts. The referencies found by searching "Warrior of Mogente" (with brackets) have lesser quality than the ones found by tipying "Warrior of Moixent".--Coentor (talk) 22:08, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

The "bilingual" name issue is irrelevant, becuse the linguistical predomination breaks the tie.--Coentor (talk) 22:08, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

The official name is the name in English Wikipedia, and in these cases it is better to use the English name. So, it isn't irrelevant at all. Yes, Warrior of Mogente have about 200 results and Warrior of Moixent about the double (at least in my browser), but I'd prefer academical texts and not a touristic site. --Millars (talk) 22:11, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

It doesn't exist an "english name"!, :en just uses the official one, bilingual. Then We must choose one of both, and IMO, the linguistical predominance of Valencian in the town breaks the tie. By "Warrior of Moixent" yo also get two googlebooks referencies.--Coentor (talk) 07:29, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Coentor, when I said "the English name" I wanted to say the name used usually in English. Yes, Warrior of Moixent is used, but, is it the most used name in English? The linguistic predominance shows which language was the original language in a municipality, but to choose the name in Commons is not the most important argument. In fact, I'm sure Italian (or Lombardo) is the language of Milano and here the category is called Milan, and more and more examples like Moscow, Lisbon, etc. But In principle I agree with renaming the category to Warrior of Moixent, but not for the arguments Coentor showed along the discussion: firstly, that Mogente doesn't exist, or secondly because the liguistic predominance is Valencian, both are not valid to rename in Commons. I agree because it seems the most used name in English. --Millars (talk) 08:40, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Then, We have a consensus with "Warrior of Moixent"? then I'll replace the template.--Coentor (talk) 09:59, 15 July 2012 (UTC)