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Bot's tasks for which permission is being sought: Task #2 - Upload images from en:UCLA Library which are deemed Public Domain. "The UCLA Library Digital Collections includes rare and unique digital materials developed by the UCLA Library to support education, research, service, and creative expression." – https://digital.library.ucla.edu/ Example: https://digital.library.ucla.edu/catalog/ark:/21198/z10g97m3

Automatic or manually assisted: Supervised automatic Manual

Edit type (e.g. Continuous, daily, one time run): Regular (not continuous)

Maximum edit rate (e.g. edits per minute): 5

Bot flag requested: (Y/N): N

Programming language(s): Python

I have not yet started any development work on this as I'll be awaiting for a test run approval. -- DaxServer (talk) 11:32, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Discussion

• Test runs is fine. Please make it. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:39, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

  @EugeneZelenko Test run is done with 25 images - Category:Files from UCLA Library uploaded by DaxBot. Thanks -- DaxServer (talk) 14:18, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

  Looks like UCLA metadata will need further refinement on your side. For example, File:Agastya asking Rama to deliver Dandakaranya from a curse from UCLA Library.png and File:Amirnama folio from UCLA Library.png are not photos. Also why UCLA license tag was used for work originated in non-USA territories (then)? Please use language ta for depatrment field. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:36, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

  I corrected all the uploads with respective PD licenses, dates, categories - the corrections are an output from the bot (as if it is run to upload). Thus, the bot is manually-assisted capable of corrections to the fields on-demand. There are some quirks here and there, but I expect to update the bot logic as they're encountered.

  I'm not sure what you meant by using language ta for department field. Could you explain?

  Apart from that, please review and let me know the feedback, and if I missed something. Thanks! -- DaxServer (talk) 19:58, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

  For example, {{en|UCLA Digital Library – AIIS Center for Art & Archaeology – Negatives & Slides Collection}}. Is it possible to use proper copyright tag based on part of collection like all photos are 2D reproductions of public domain art? --EugeneZelenko (talk) 16:55, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

  I used the {{PD-Art|PD-old-100}} inside the {{Photograph}} template and {{PD-old-100}}{{PD-US-expired}}{{PD-country}} for the original object {{Artwork}} template. If I understand correctly what you meant, the PD tags highlighted in green would not be necessary - when the original art work/collection is in PD and the photo is its 2D repro. Did I get it right? -- DaxServer (talk) 20:36, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

  {{PD-old-100}} should be enough for cases that it covers. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 16:06, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

  Alright. Can you confirm if this is good - File:18-handed Durga from UCLA Library.png DaxServerEverywhere (talk) 08:58, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

  Please use language tags for texts like presumed Nepal. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:21, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

  I've updated them. Thanks! -- DaxServer (talk) 18:00, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

• Please advise: Have all issues been addressed? Is this ready to run? --Krd 14:36, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

  Yes, I've addressed all the issued raised by @EugeneZelenko. I'm awaiting his further feedback, if any -- DaxServer (talk) 18:59, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

  Could you please make another test run? --EugeneZelenko (talk) 16:26, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

  Sure, please hold. I'll try to see if I can do this Sunday DaxServerEverywhere (talk) 08:39, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

  Hi I did a test run with 15 files. Please let me know the feedback. -- DaxServer (talk) 17:48, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

  Mostly looks OK for me, but in File:An idyllic scene from UCLA Library.png {{PD-art}} is incorrectly applied to 3D work. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:25, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

  Ah, I see. Thanks for the note. I'll update them and in the bot-code. -- DaxServer (talk) 17:53, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

  I've updated it and 4 others to use {{PD-author|author-goes-here}} for the photos (transcluded by {{PD-UCLA-AIIS-CAA}} in this collection's case). I hope I got the license tag correct. -- DaxServer (talk) 18:21, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

  Hi. Is there any update on the review? Thanks! -- DaxServer (talk) 20:31, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

  Is source metadata enough to determine if work 2D or 3D? Or manual list creation is needed to avoid mistakes in licensing? --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:43, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

  I believe the metadata is enough. For example, this one has under the Contents Note that describes it as a terracotta material along with the tag "terracottas (sculptural works)" under Subject Keywords. While this one is described as a manuscript and the subject/image being a painting. If a list were to be used to assist, it seem to be a bit easier to create one - this repository has all 3D art, probably other repositories have their fields, I can investigate if needed. But in the end, the Subject Keywords [and the descriptions] in the UCLA website seem to laid out with care to make it enough to determine whether it's 2D or 3D. (Just clarifying,.. I wasn't earlier fully aware that PD-art cannot be used for the 3D, altho the bot was already aware that it is 3D (not exactly "3D" but "sculpture") as the categories seen in this file at upload time before your note. I just had to swap the licence when it's a 3D work to fix the issue.) -- DaxServer (talk) 18:15, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

  Where exactly do we know from that for the above mentioned scene the photo is pd-author? Krd 05:03, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

  The access statements are on the items' pages https://digital.library.ucla.edu/catalog/ark:/21198/z16j05r6 The rights holder is set as CAA archives (for this collection). Looking at Category:PD license tags, if it's not PD-author, could it be Template:PD-copyright holder with the first parameter being the same "American Institute of Indian Studies Center for Art and Archaeology" (for this collection)? -- DaxServer (talk) 11:11, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

  Who was the photographer who created the photo, and how did CAA archives become copyright holder? Krd 09:08, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

  I've sent an email to caa.archives@aiis.edu.in and askLSC@library.ucla.edu for the clarification on the same. I've already sent an email on 7 January but hasn't received any reply yet. If there's no reply in a reasonable time, say end of this month, I'll withdraw this. Feel free to delete the images in the test run when this is closed. Thanks for your help so far! -- DaxServer (talk) 10:09, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

  I've received a reply that the mail is forwarded to relevant personal. I'll keep you updated. -- DaxServer (talk) 07:28, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

  @Krd The UCLA Library does not have information as to the affiliation of the photographers and how CAA gained the rights. I don't think I'm interested to email CAA Archives, as I've already included them in the cc and haven't heard from them. Please go ahead and delete the test run images. I'm withdrawing this. -- DaxServer (talk) 07:57, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

  Does this mean all uploads of the bot have no permission? Krd 08:38, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

  Yes, I'd consider as such for precautionary principle, ([only] for the 39 files in this category) - Category:Files from UCLA Library uploaded by DaxBot -- DaxServer (talk) 20:27, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

  Done. --Krd 08:46, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

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Withdrawn per above. --Krd 08:46, 22 March 2024 (UTC)