Commons:Valued image candidates/Maria Laach - Hochgrab Pfalzgraf Heinrich II. von Laach (2019-05-14 Foto Sp).JPG

=== Maria Laach - Hochgrab Pfalzgraf Heinrich II. von Laach (2019-05-14 Foto Sp).JPG

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Nominated by	Lothar Spurzem (talk) on 2019-05-16 10:05 (UTC)
Scope	Nominated as the most valued image on Commons within the scope: Grave of Heinrich II von Laach, funder of Abbey of Maria Laach
Used in	Global usage
Reason	I think it is the best image of this grave in scope up to now. -- Lothar Spurzem (talk)
Review (criteria)	Comment - Best in scope, but the scope could be better. First, "Category" shouldn't show in the scope. Second, it would be "donor's grave", as it's the grave of one donor, but why wouldn't it be better to identify the donor by name as Count Heinrich II of Laach? -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 01:04, 17 May 2019 (UTC)  Comment I modified the scope for the problem of the category, everyone is not familiar with this syntax. I agree with Ikan Kekek 's remark. The scope can be changed without special procedure because there is no vote yet.--Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 05:22, 17 May 2019 (UTC)  Comment @Ikan Kekek: Thank you so much for pointing out my typo. In German, the apostrophe is not common before a genitive-s. And I'm German. ;-) -- Lothar Spurzem (talk) 10:54, 17 May 2019 (UTC)  Comment - You're welcome, Lothar, and of course I understand that. But what do you think of my proposal to change the scope to "Interior of Maria Laach: Grave of Count Heinrich II of Laach?" Why is "Donor's grave" clearer? -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 11:10, 17 May 2019 (UTC) @Ikan Kekek: When I presented my first pictures, the scopes were too long. Suddenly the scope is too short. But apart from that: In this country, this tomb is called "Stiftergrab" oder “Gründergrab”, that’s is in English “Donor’s grave”. But if this question should fail a positive rating of the photo, I'll probably have to accept it. -- Lothar Spurzem (talk) 12:12, 17 May 2019 (UTC) We discuss details, but they are interesting and useful. Donor is used rather to designate a sponsor of a work a painting or a statue. But in this case it is the founder of the Abbey of Maria Laach. The scope, which seems to me ideal, could be: Grave of Heinrich II von Laach, funder of {{c|Interior of Maria Laach| Abbey of Maria Laach}} --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 14:11, 17 May 2019 (UTC) @Archaeodontosaurus: I changed it. However, I do not understand the meaning; because some time ago, the scopes had to be as short as possible. Regards -- Lothar Spurzem (talk) 16:00, 17 May 2019 (UTC)  Support for me is perfect --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 16:04, 17 May 2019 (UTC)  Comment - For the record, Lothar, with your explanation above, I would have supported keeping "Donor's grave" as the scope, since that's the name of the grave. When I ask a question ("Why is 'Donor's grave' clearer?"), I am literally asking a question, not dictating an answer. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 18:37, 17 May 2019 (UTC) Result: 1 support, 0 oppose => promoted. --BoothSift 01:07, 21 May 2019 (UTC)