File talk:State recognition of same-sex relationships (North America).svg

Iowa

Iowa should be dark blue. Ron 1987 (talk) 14:55, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

THanks, I fixed it. It should be okay now. Soap (talk) 03:36, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Caribbean/West Indies

Why are they not on this map? The laws vary extremely among the islands. Also, what about Puerto Rico? Are these countries/territories not considered part of the hemisphere? --just an anonymous, 6-3-09 -- 21:52, 3 June 2009‎ 98.180.7.205

Greenland

Seems kind of useless to include the subdivisions of Greenland... AnonMoos (talk) 05:29, 24: January 2012 (UTC)

 Done Magog the Ogre (talk) 22:16, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Washington

Similar to File:Samesex marriage in USA.svg the state of Washington, US, should be in dark blue. The footnote says "May include recent laws or court decisions which have created legal recognition of same-sex relationships, but which have not entered into effect yet.". The law may enter into effect until June, but unless the footnote is rewritten, there is no reason for exclude it. Tbhotch™ 01:36, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Except that you get instantly reverted if you try to do something about the footnote. Hekerui (talk) 07:21, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Six of one, one half dozen of the other. We're not in a rush. I'd recommend using an alternate color, if we didn't already have so many colors. Magog the Ogre (talk) 07:42, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Editable SVG

I went ahead and imported the SVG code from Gay Adoption Map North America.svg for editability, with the following changes:

1. corrected "VI" -> VA (VI is Virgin Islands!)
2. a bigger DC, like on the Inkscaped map
3. obviously, the groupings and colors are different than on the adoption map

I'm 99.9% sure my map is identical to the previous version but if you do see any errors please don't hesitate to correct them. Scalable Vector Raccoon (talk) 00:03, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

Kentucky

Kentucky needs to be marked as recognizing same-sex marriage (see talk) --Prcc27 (talk) 23:37, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Stays

Shouldn't this map reflect bans that have been struck down but are stayed..? --Prcc27 (talk) 23:48, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Proposal

English (en): State recognition of same-sex relationships (North America & Hawaii, excluding Central America)¹

 

Same-sex marriage

 

Other type of partnership

 

Same-sex marriages recognized, but not performed

 

Binding judicial ruling against a ban on same-sex marriage²

 

Binding judicial ruling against a ban on recognizing out-of-state same-sex marriages stayed pending appeal

 

No recognition, same-sex marriage banned³

¹May include recent laws or court decisions which have created legal recognition of same-sex relationships, but which have not entered into effect yet.

²Some states have a binding judicial ruling against a ban on similar unions too

³Some states ban similar unions too

BTW, states like OH and KY with rulings against recognition would not be striped since states with recognition are not striped. --Prcc27 (talk) 05:40, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

I'll support. Although, we may want to add "binding" to the judicial ruling legends, as most Mexican states have rulings against their marriage bans. Mexican precedent is complicated; to be binding a ruling has to be issued in iirc five separate cases first. Dralwik (talk) 19:00, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

How's this? --Prcc27 (talk) 19:12, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Looks good. If no one voices an objection, I'll update the map in 24 hours. Dralwik (talk) 19:14, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

So with the consolidation of ban levels at the US map winning, we should consolidate these colors as well. I'm thinking to merge the two reds and the two darker beiges since this map isn't distinguishing the statute v. constitutional bans. Dralwik (talk) 18:09, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Okay, updated the proposal. What do you think..? --Prcc27 (talk) 19:42, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Well that was a pain but it's done. Dralwik (talk) 21:55, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

I'm sorry..! :/ --Prcc27 (talk) 22:01, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Inkscape, turns out, does not like doing stripes. I wound up manually drawing the halves in Colorado and Wisconsin to fill in the stay color. Dralwik (talk) 22:03, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

@Dralwik: I don't think Kansas and Wyoming qualify as "binding" as the ruling isn't "binding" for those states.. Prcc27 (talk) 21:31, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

PNG

"Editor note: This map is saved in human-editable plain text format. Please do not upload edits saved with Inkscape."

Hmm... Really? Because I was unable to edit the map by text. Since this map isn't always updated in time and because this map is NOT in human-editable plain text format like it's supposed to be, I made a PNG version since I am able to edit PNG maps but not SVG maps. File:State recognition of same-sex relationships (North America).png. Prcc27 (talk) 06:39, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Kansas

Kansas should be dark blue. Both the 10th Circuit and the Supreme Court have denied stays. SusunW (talk) 16:30, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

• @SusunW: Same-sex marriage isn't legal statewide in Kansas. Prcc27 (talk) 11:31, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

But, Alabama is not issuing licenses statewide either (defying federal court order), but every other graphic on the subject puts Kansas in the marriage equality spectrum. Kansas is under a jurisdiction that ordered it to issue licenses. (Tigerghost (talk) 15:06, 10 February 2015 (UTC))

Local Compliance

How about we use dark green (#008080) for states that recognize same-sex marriage and use light blue for states with same-sex marriage at the local level..? Prcc27 (talk) 11:31, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

• Never mind, forgot about accessibility concerns! We'll have to use different colors. Prcc27 (talk) 07:02, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

I think we should use gray for local/partial same-sex marriage states! Prcc27 (talk) 00:15, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

That's fine with me. Dralwik (talk) 06:29, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Alabama

Alabama should not be blue, the state has halted SSM marriage licensing. Czolgolz (talk) 14:33, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Latin America vs. North America map

Now that both Canada and the United States have full same-sex marriage, I suggest to give prominence to the Latin America and the Caribbean map of LGBT laws. This map has been neglected in the English Wikipedia in favor of separate North and South America maps, and today it's only present in some Spanish Wikipedia articles. I think it would be better to highlight that map in order to better show the common regional challenges that all Mexico, Central America, the Caribbean and South America share, and that are now different from the United States and Canada. Here is the link to the Commons file of that map: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Latin_America_homosexuality_laws.svg.jpg --Polux91 (talk) 06:32, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

You do raise a valid point. However, the North American map links to the North American recognition page. While I do feel as though this map is soon to be irrelevant, until all of Mexico has same-sex marriage, it is still useful. I would also point out that the South America, Central America, and the Caribbean have their own maps as well. Chase1493 (talk) 23:49, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

French territory

Technically, the map should show the French overseas collectivity of Saint Pierre and Miquelon which should be dark blue for marriage equality, probably in a small circle like México, D.F. or Washington, D.C. The French territory is very near Newfoundland in the Gulf of St. Lawrence between Quebec and the Maritime Provinces. Fortguy (talk) 07:16, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

Sonora

Same-sex marriages have stopped in Sonora (except those granted by federal injunction) due to an order from the office of the governor. Please update this map accordingly. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Node ue (talk • contribs) 00:13, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

Bermuda and French Territories

This map ought to include Bermuda and St. Pierre and Miquelon; both have marriage allowed. They could each be represented by a little dot like most small territories are. I don't know how to make the change myself. — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.69.140.123 (talk) 05:41, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

Bermuda

I am wondering if we should put Bermuda on this map. It is not on any local LGBT rights map other than the global maps. Yet it fits on the map. Shall we add it?

According to Wikipedia's page on North America, Bermuda is part of North America. "In a geologic sense, Bermuda is not part of the Americas, but an oceanic island which was formed on the fissure of the Mid-Atlantic Ridge over 100 million years ago. The nearest landmass to it is Cape Hatteras, North Carolina. However, Bermuda is often thought of as part of North America, especially given its historical, political and cultural ties to Virginia and other parts of the continent."

Bermuda has marriage equality

If we add it, it also begs the slippery-slope/precedent question: Should we make a map that has all of North America including Central America and the Caribbean? (Note: If such a map is created, I don't favor deleting the map for Homosexuality laws in Central America and the Caribbean Islands )

Is Saint-Pierre and Miquelon covered by the North America map? Does it need a blue dot? It "is a self-governing territorial overseas collectivity of France" and therefore has marriage equality as part of France. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TenorTwelve (talk • contribs) 06:31, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

Yes, Bermuda is generally included in North America, even when not counting C.Am., and there's no question about St Pierre. Added. There's really no slippery slope,, such divisions are arbitrary and we can divide them up however we like. But those two polities don't occur on any other map except the global one. Kwamikagami (talk) 19:43, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

I don't know what I was thinking when I said "slippery slope." I apologize. I would favor a map with Central America and the Caribbean included as well. Perhaps this can be created when every state in Mexico has marriage equality, if not sooner. -TenorTwelve (talk) 06:02, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

And Central America and the Caribbean are part of North America, so they should be on this map, too. -TenorTwelve (talk) 06:22, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

Outdated map

The last Mexican state to legalise same-sex marriage was Guerrero in October 2022. The bill was finally signed this last December 2022. Same sex marriages are now legal in all North America (with the exceptions of some minor Carribbean islands). Does this map is still valid? Aleqc (talk) 21:23, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

That's why it's categorized as obsolete. But it's still widely used on WP-es. Also, it still shows Bermuda as medium blue, so I suppose we need to wait for legalization there before it's completely redundant. Kwamikagami (talk) 07:43, 12 January 2023 (UTC)