User talk:Magog the Ogre

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Number of updates in User:OgreBot/Notable uploads and User:OgreBot/Uploads by new users[edit]

I think will be great to add number of updates in these pages. It will be indirect indicator of how much reviews were performed. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:16, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

@EugeneZelenko: I will try to add that, although not right away. Face-smile.svg Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 04:22, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
@EugeneZelenko: added to notable uploads. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 21:51, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
@EugeneZelenko: added to uploads by new users as well. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 23:10, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Nomination of File:Image thumb8.jpg[edit]

Magog, you nominated File:Image thumb8.jpg for deletion, but that page is a redirect. I think you wanted to nominate File:2011 photo of Fidel Urbina.jpg. —RP88 (talk) 01:47, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. It is a defect in the mass deletion tool that I have already notified Rillke about.[1] I have pinged him again in this statement; if you believe it's a problem, perhaps you could say something yourself. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 03:10, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the quick reply. Unfortunately that has been a known bug in VFC for at least a a year. Personally, in order to avoid this bug, I do a quick audit of the images after posting a mass delete. —RP88 (talk) 03:29, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
@RP88: Good idea. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 03:57, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
I regret the inconvenience. Patches to VFC are welcome; currently my spare time is too limited to allow me updating the script myself. -- Rillke(q?) 10:23, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
@Rillke: where would I go about making the change? Also, is there any way to run the script locally in test mode? Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 23:11, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Two months later[edit]

I bought you some time back in May by convincing Fry1989 to back away (at least for the time being). You were probably using these two months to think things over. You have returned to sysop duties (blockings and deletions), so I'm assumung that you came to the conclusion that you should retain your sysop status. I've been thinking it over as well, and I'm not sure that it's appropriate or fair for Fastily to lose his or her sysop rights while you retain yours. Seems like the community is playing favorites instead of playing fair. What are your thoughts? --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 01:48, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Actually, I see that Fry1989 has already renewed community discussion about the future of your sysop rights. He or she forgot to leave a message here for you. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 01:57, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
That is quite within his rights. I expected nothing less. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 03:07, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
I had assumed that the personal notification when pinging a user-name would be sufficient considering it would be best Magog the Ogre and I maintain minimal personal contact, as I am sure Magog the Ogre did receive a ping. I apologise if any negative intention was inferred in not making an official notification. Fry1989 eh? 03:09, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
I'm not implying that you had malicious intentions. I'm just saying that people posting to this talk page (e.g. me) or watching it wouldn't know about the AN/U discussion merely by looking at this page previously. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 11:57, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Archivos del usuario Wiki LIC[edit]

Hola, Magog. Tengo dudas acerca de las licencias de los archivos subidos por Wiki LIC, creo que deberían ser eliminados. También lee lo que dice en el TAB de la versión en español. [2] Saludos --C.Jonel [contact me] 13:39, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Me parece que User:Ezarate se ha ocupado con este asunto. ¿Tengo razón, Esteban? Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 01:27, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
no hay elementos que hagan dudar que las imágenes esten en dominio público, por eso las restaure Ezarateesteban 15:50, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
@Ezarate: para la mayoría, estoy de acuerdo. Pero ésta me da que pensar; ¿necesitamos prueba por OTRS? Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 03:58, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
no se que clase de prueba pueda tener el usuario, al ser escaneada de un álbum familiar no creo que quede ni la referencia al fotografo. Ezarateesteban 14:28, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

"Unless someone asks me otherwise"[edit]

I asking you, but since you have doubts of some sort, I'm asking in the context of a friendly talk page discussion. Look at the following:

How does this community reconcile the fact the same bureaucrat who advocated desysopping INeverCry is adamantly defending Russavia at every opportunity? Russavia made INeverCry miserable at every opportunity, yet Odder never advocates any action against Russavia, only against Russavia's opponent. I see favoritism in this community, even in its highest echelons in the form of bureaucrat Odder.

Can you also not see how favoritism was created for you? You took a more more popular approach to sysopship than Fastily did. You became a prolific bot operator, while Fasily became a prolific deleter. People saw you as helping their uploaded files, while people saw Fasily as destroying their work. This made you a community favorite and Fasily a menace in the community's eyes. I believe that your popularity and Fasily's unpopularity had much to do with the outcome of the dispute between Fasily and you. A vote under these circumstances would always swing towards popularity contest rather than justice. Do you believe otherwise? --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 18:13, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

I will respond to this, but it will take me a bit to form a fully competent answer. I will give you the TL;DR beforehand:
  • Yes, I do believe the community shows favoritism, as do many communities. I don't like it either.
  • Fastily had a lot of complaints. Some were unfair ("he deleted my photo", "oh c'mon, stop being such a square with this precautionary principle nonsense!"). However, others were quite fair and accurate. It's worthwhile to note that he was entirely unrepentant and unwilling to change his future behavior, as expounded by his final statement. Anyway, because you asked, I will soon provide a list of concrete examples, rather than just accusations.
Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 01:18, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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I have been looking for a tool like fileinfo for so long! It should be posted more prominently near every Commonshelper mention! Thanks for building it. – czar 06:35, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

User:OgreBot/Notable uploads[edit]

It was not updated for a week. Please take a look. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:12, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

What's wrong with this?[edit]

Hi, i was looking for some photos, and I saw that you deleted this.

I think this deletion is a mistake. There is a lot of files from Acrofan, and none of them were deleted. See: 1 2 3

Thank you. JewELFish (talk) 22:47, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

@JewELFish: I've restored it. If you upload photographs from there in the future, please use the license template {{}}, as it has an OTRS template attached to it which the original upload lacked (thus meaning that anyone looking at the image was unaware that the license was correct). Thanks. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 17:01, 1 August 2015 (UTC)