User talk:Magog the Ogre

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WTS wikivoyage[edit]


I was thinking that perhaps it was time to finish the cleanup on wikivoyage and I asked Stefan if he had any ideas.

Can you make work again without too much work?

Do you have any other ideas? --MGA73 (talk) 14:45, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

This week will be pretty hectic through Wednesday. I will take a look on Thursday. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 15:06, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
Thank you. WTS is pretty slow so perhaps it will be a nightmare to work on it. --MGA73 (talk) 15:09, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
@Stefan4, MGA73: Ask, and ye shall receive. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 05:53, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
Thank you very much. --MGA73 (talk) 11:42, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
I've tried it at it works really fast compered to doing it manually. --MGA73 (talk) 17:39, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
@MGA73: I can create a category delete-all tool in JavaScript, presumably be to used in conjunction with the NowCommons template. But it would be a pain in the butt, so I'm only going to do it if you indicate it will save you a significant amount of time. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 19:05, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
Thank you but I can just use my bot to mass delete if I want. But I think it is best to check and fix one by one. Otherwise we will never have the files fixed on Commons. The first transfers were pretty crappy you know :-(
You are welcome to check a few files to see if you find anything we could have a bot fix on Commons. I ran a few cleanups a week ago so I hope I got most of the general errors. --MGA73 (talk) 21:05, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
If I remember correctly, is configured so that various Javascript stuff doesn't work. I think I tried creating a userscript on one of the wikivoyage-old wikis but that it didn't work. Therefore, your Javascript tool might not work. --Stefan4 (talk) 21:52, 11 April 2015 (UTC)


Hi Magog.

When I use fileinfo.php to fix a crappy transfer it makes text like this (in author and license):

  • [[:en:User:Jameslamb|Jameslamb]] at [ en.wikipedia]

When I use do_cleanup.php it changes the text to:

  • {{user at project|Jameslamb|wikipedia|en}}

Perhaps you could one day fileinfo.php so the two tools use the same text? --MGA73 (talk) 09:06, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

@MGA73: Yeah, eventually. Unfortunately, the code is in awful shape, due to my complete inexperience and lack of tools (gedit!) when I first wrote it. If you want to try to tackle the issue, I believe you have write rights. Face-smile.svg Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 01:48, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
Who Me???? I my skills are awfull!!! Remember the wts transfers ;-) Well it is not a big deal. Just something for the "could be nice-list". --MGA73 (talk) 08:02, 12 April 2015 (UTC)


... for this, but I think the net effect is the same. Whaledad (talk) 17:43, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

@Whaledad: true, but it can cause automated tools to get confused. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 01:45, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Mistake Ogrebot 2[edit]

Hello Magog the Ogre, this edit has open an annoying conflict[1] as the bot has given the uploader (mover) the authorship and copyright. Greetings User: Perhelion (Commons: = crap?)  22:11, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

That is a very special case that was solved. I don't think anything needs to be done by Magog. --Leyo 22:16, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
Hm* I think that can happen more often (I saw this before). The rights owner was rightly quite outraged. But if you say this is an very special case... User: Perhelion (Commons: = crap?)  22:24, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
@Perhelion: actually, the bot just made the text appear as the original file page did at German Wikipedia. It neither added nor subtracted from the author field in that sense. As such, if the uploader wanted a specific attribution, then s/he didn't add it correctly in the first place. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 01:44, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
Thats the point, but I don't fully agree, this is handled in Commons similarly as we can see here in one of the most used templates on Commons Template: Own#See also. It would be better the work of Magnus Manske‎‎, not you afterwards. But if this really is a very very special case, I accept to do noting here. Greetings User: Perhelion (Commons: = crap?)  07:44, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Problem with Creation of a TUSC Account[edit]

I want to use some of the tools, like the old version filemover, but my problem is, that I can not create an account. Like you can see here, I tried it more than once, and I got the answer "Account creation succesful", but when I tried to log in, I get the answer "login failed". Can you help me with this? Greetings, Luke081515 (talk) 15:23, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

@Magnus Manske: if you could assist with this. Face-smile.svg Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 15:52, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
TUSC is obsolete. All my tools use the OAuth login. Every tool that uses OAuth has an appropriate link. If you have problems, please give the URL of the tool you try to use. --Magnus Manske (talk) 14:27, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Cleanup dates[edit]

Hi Magog the Ogre, is it possible to extend your bot to also to cleanup dates of this format "2014/06/29 10:30:20"? Thanks. --Arnd (talk) 11:35, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

@Aschroet: ✓ Done Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 22:13, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
Magog the Ogre, thank you. Another type that even till now seems to be in use is a format like this "20150104". If you have time i would appreciate to include that for cleanup as well. Thank you again, --Arnd (talk) 09:02, 19 April 2015 (UTC)


Hello Magog, can you please remove or delete the metadata on this image? Jaqeli 16:24, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

@Jaqeli: I've removed it from the current version. Please let me know if you need anything else done. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 21:52, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
Thank you. Jaqeli 21:58, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

AN question[edit]

Hi Magog ... Does the archival of Look2See1's AN report mean that there's going to be no action taken? This seems to keep happening when the community tries to do something about this user's over-categorization habit. I think s/he's been blocked once for the behavior, but it has continued and each time someone raises it in AN, people comment on it and then the discussion gets archived with no real action taken. I'm not well-versed in how things like this work out here. Just wondering. --Sanfranman59 (talk) 18:37, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

@Sanfranman59: nope. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 21:49, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
Magog; I didn't get to comment on the recent discussion, but I support your block of Look2See1.[2] Thank you. Walter Siegmund (talk) 00:13, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Tony Martin[edit]

Hey, Magog. Would you be so kind as to move Category:Tony Martin to Category:Tony Martin (cyclist) and then delete the Tony Martin? - --Bossanoven (talk) 20:53, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. But does it make sense to have a category redirect when there is more than one category named Tony Martin on the Commons? - --Bossanoven (talk) 17:02, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

@Bossanoven: I don't know. Face-sad.svg. Could you ask at help desk? (Sorry, it's late) Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 03:30, 17 April 2015 (UTC)


Hi. Seems that many files on wts used "|source=myself". Perhaps you could change cleanup script to change that to "{{own}}" --MGA73 (talk) 18:53, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

MGA73, ✓ Done (could you review?) --Arnd (talk) 19:44, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
Thank you but I meant User:Magog the Ogre/cleanup.js and it seems to be unchanged? :-) --MGA73 (talk) 21:09, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
This file for example File:Blaydes House. No 6 High Street.jpg --MGA73 (talk) 21:12, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
@MGA73: I am not taking new feature requests for Cleanup_JS. It is deprecated in favor of Cleanup_TS, for a number of reasons. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 23:23, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
Okay. I asked because I use the clean up link at a lot at the moment :-) --MGA73 (talk) 14:55, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
@MGA73: ✓ Done Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 22:28, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your cool tools. --MGA73 (talk) 20:21, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Why do I have[edit]

Hello, why do I have DR Notices? Why am I one your watch list? --BT33015 (talk) 00:33, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

@BT33015: it is an automatically-generated gallery which includes uploads by every user with less than 150 edits. The reason for this is that users with less than 150 edits contribute the vast majority of problematic files on Commons (e.g., copyright violations, non-educational selfies, etc.). Your inclusion on this list only means that you are a new user, not that you are a problematic user.
The "DR notices" means that your talk page contains a notice of a deletion request. This information can help experienced page patrollers to identify problematic uploads. Again, this information does not mean your uploads were (necessarily) problematic - it is just a piece of information which the bot shows to help the community.
I apologize for any confusion. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 02:24, 18 April 2015 (UTC)


Hi Magog the Ogre. You might want to have a look. Thanks. --Leyo 01:49, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Ugh. Thanks. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 02:12, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
@Leyo: fixed. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 03:08, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
Thank you. --Leyo 13:10, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Abhishek copyright infringement[edit]

Hi Magog, i am sorry about the mess. Abhishek.bose2033 (talk) 18:42, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

@Abhishek.bose2033: OK. Do you understand why you've been warned? Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 20:25, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
Magog, i have two questions:
1) I would like to delete my previous pictures with copyright violation issues. i am using {{speedy|wrong upload}}
For instance in here, am i doing it wrong
2) If a book is in public domain why is not possible to use that book front cover?
Thank You Abhishek.bose2033 (talk) 21:55, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
@Abhishek.bose2033 Yes, you did that correctly. I deleted the files per your request. It is possible to upload book covers if they have fallen into the public domain in their country of origin. In that case, you can affix this template: {{PD-India}}. If an Indian book cover has no artistic content other than photographs, then the photographs must have been published at least 60 years ago, starting January 1. If it has artistic content, then the artist must have died at least 60 years ago, starting January 1.
If none of these conditions has been fulfilled, we can sometimes upload the covers to English Wikipedia as fair use. But this means some restrictions. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 22:03, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
Thank You Magog. May i ask You how 'fair use' works? Abhishek.bose2033 (talk) 22:08, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
@Abhishek.bose2033 Yes. You can upload an image, but it must have a lower resolution, have an accompanying text which explains the rationale for its usage, and be used in a very limited context (e.g., it must be informative to the reader and not just decorational). To be frank with you, it's actually quite byzantine, so it might be easier if I just did any uploads for you. Just tell me which pages you want the images on, and I'll tell you what can be done. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 22:12, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
Magog the Ogre, i am working on this article Abhishek.bose2033 (talk) 22:19, 19 April 2015 (UTC)


Hi. You made this template to make transfers from wts work better. I think it could perhaps be a good idea to convert the template to regular categories because they are easier to understand and fix (for example with HotCat). What do you think? --MGA73 (talk) 20:08, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

@MGA73: sounds like a good idea. There's only 9 of them, it seems, so it should be quick. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 22:19, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
Cool. Thank you. I fixed the files and deleted the template. --MGA73 (talk) 16:43, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Zelezara Smederevo page[edit]

Hi there,

I am a Web and e Communication Editor at Zelezara Smederevo (PR Department). Everything I upload is approved by my employer. Most of it is my own work. I've been asked by the plant management to update and expand our English Wiki page. Please, feel free to contact me at


MIlan Zikic — Preceding unsigned comment added by MZikic (talk • contribs) 11:32, April 22, 2015‎ (UTC)

OK. However, the images will still need a license or they will be deleted. Please see COM:L (sorry, no Serbian translation). Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 22:33, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

File:Farriol, Roberto -dir MNBA cl.jpg[edit]

Hi, thank you for your message. I don't know what happened, I uploaded a few photos of the oppening of the paintings of Gil de Castro in Santiago, Chile, and for some reason this image was without any information. In any case, I hope now the problem is solved. Best regards, Roferbia (talk) 13:15, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

@Roferbia: I believe it was a technical glitch in the Mediawiki software. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 22:27, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

retail center data[edit]

Dear Magog the Ogre, I'm new to wiki talk feature. I saw your maps for Walmart and Target footprint which gave me hope it is possible to find data for my research work. I'm trying to collect data for all retail centers locations in the US (Walmart, Amazon, Target). I'm collecting data on their (1) type (supermarket, grocery store), (2) location, (3) square feet, (4) year opened. To my understanding the maps you have created for Walmart and Target footprints contain data on location and their square feet? Could you please share web page(s) from which you obtained this data? I've tried to look into US census, but it only gives me information on sales. To my understanding under description of data collection procedure for your maps it wasn't all located on one place. Ideally, I need a list with addresses and size etc. in excel. Are you able to share the data that you have collected for Walmart and Target?

Thank you very much for your help, suggestion.

Jasmina — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jburek2015 (talk • contribs) 16:24, April 22, 2015‎ (UTC)

@Jburek2015: I got the store zip codes by scraping the data off their store locator. I still have the list of zip codes, but it is old, and it doesn't have any other information. You can find similar data aggregated online for free[3] or for a price.[4]
I do not have and I've never had information about the type, square footage, or year opened, nor do I know how to go about retrieving it. You might consider actually asking the store directly, although you'll only get some responses this way. Similarly, maybe you could ask for help at the English Wikipedia refdesk, where someone might know more than I.Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 22:25, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

L'Humanité 18 Juillet 1922.jpg[edit]

Hi Magog,

The licence of this file

is exactly the same as this one :

Same newspaper, same year.

i got it from the public data base of the National French Library Website, who only spread licence free texts:

The author of the most popular article is Anatole France, who died in 1924.

Please let me know if anything unclear or contradictory remains.

Thanks and Regards,

--Bob isat (talk) 19:40, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

@Bob isat: when you upload a file, please affix a license to it, like this. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 16:50, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

bot is removing license templates[edit]

Hi, you bot was removing licenses from files lately. See [5] and [6] --Jarekt (talk) 02:43, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. I've been doing some needed code refactoring, and I thought it was inevitable I'd break something. I'll take a look this weekend. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 02:44, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
@Jarekt: actually this looks like an existing bug. Thanks for the note. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 16:14, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
Glad to help--Jarekt (talk) 01:51, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

File:LPJ 21 février 1904.jpg[edit]

Hello, this file is an extract of the Petit Journal published in February 21, 1904, a weekly illustrated publication from France, found on Gallica : it is in the Public Domain, as said by the French Law. Yours sincerely, --Spiessens (talk) 11:29, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

Therefore, I put on PD-Old. Thanks ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spiessens (talk • contribs) 11:33, April 25, 2015‎ (UTC)

@Spiessens: that is fine; it just needs a license. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 16:13, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

Old edit related to WTS[edit]

Hi. this edit changed the uploader. Any idea why and/or if it is a single error or there could be many like this? --MGA73 (talk) 07:35, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Perhaps you could make a one-time-run of "cleanup_multi.php" on all files in Category:Files from Wikivoyage wts (tool only allows to work on 5.000). It is a big help and the number of errors are very low. I noticed this edit that removed {{own}} but I think it is only something that happens in files with the {{Imagecredit}} but there is only about 20 of those so I'll fix those manually. --MGA73 (talk) 12:54, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
@MGA73: This is a defect in the bot. It only occurs on pages with Template:Wikivoyage and which have bad [[:wts:user:(WT-shared) ...]] links attached (i.e., basically all of them). Unfortunately, I absolutely do not have time to fix this right now (see the rest of my talk page here and on English Wikipedia). Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 22:24, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

OgreBot question[edit]

Doorknob747 (talk · contribs) asked the question at this page:

Is it similar to the 4 tilde signature bot on Wikipedia where I can get out of its bot list? Thank you in advance! Doorknob 747 (talk) 15:07, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Hopefully this user's question can be answered here. Epic Genius (talk) 16:01, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Perhaps you could add a "FAQ" link in User:OgreBot/new upload header or where ever suitable. --MGA73 (talk) 16:49, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
@Doorknob747, Epicgenius, MGA73: There is now a FAQ in the header. You can see it here: User:OgreBot/Uploads by new users/FAQ. Let me know if you have further questions or concerns. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 23:08, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. Epic Genius (talk) 01:18, 27 April 2015 (UTC)