User talk:Magog the Ogre

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Magog the Ogre is taking it easy these days, and might not respond immediately.

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Broken bot[edit]

Ogrebot's attempts to polish some of my recent uploads have made things worse:

etc, etc. I doubt I'm the only one thus affected. Fix please? DS (talk) 15:30, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

@DragonflySixtyseven: the page had parsing errors on it. If a page doesn't have parsing errors, OgreBot shouldn't make that edit. I believe I put that feature in (adding author to the information template) as someone's request, although I can't find it for the life of me. Was it User:Leyo maybe? Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 14:56, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
Maybe it was me, but it must have been several years ago. If possible the script should be looking for that parameter somewhere in the page. --Leyo 21:32, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Please restore File:Hadley-wickham2016-02-04.jpg[edit]

I do not recall having received a notice from your OgreBot about questions about the copyright on File:Hadley-wickham2016-02-04.jpg. Yesterday while providing documentation of other photos I uploaded, I found that this photo had been challenged then deleted, because I did not reply to the challenge in time. Yesterday at 9:37 AM Central time, I forwarded to "permissions-commons@wikimedia.org" an email subj: restore File:Hadley-wickham2016-02-04.jpg, in which Hadley Wickham said (deep in the text) "you can license as CC-SA."

How long should I wait to see if someone will respond to that email and either restore or tell me why not? Thanks, DavidMCEddy (talk) 03:42, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

@DavidMCEddy: I've responded to the email you sent yesterday. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 10:33, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
Where have you responded? I haven't seen it -- either for Wickham or for Kelton. On Dec. 30, you should have received an email from me documenting that I had permission from Wickham to release that photo of him under CC-SA and others from me and from Kelton documentation permission for the four of Kelton. File:Kelton Headshot2.jpg still claims it "is missing evidence of permission", and the photo of Wickham still seems not to have been restored. Thanks, DavidMCEddy (talk) 14:05, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
@DavidMCEddy: I responded on January 1 at 10:32 AM UTC. I actually quoted a previous email we sent back in March. Is it possible your spam filter is picking it up? Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 04:53, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
I've received emails 2016-12-30 addressed to me as spencer.graves@prodsyse.com from Wikimedia Commons <wiki@wikimedia.org>, subj: ‪Secondarywaltz‬ left you a message on Wikimedia Commons but none from you. Per that email, I sent emails to OTRS (permissions-commons@wikimedia.org) containing verbiage from my sources claiming they own those photos and are granting permission to release them under cc-by-sa for the four Kelton photos I recently added and cc-sa for Wickham.
I just checked my spam filter and did not find anything that looked like it might have come from you.
What should I look for? How do you want me to respond?
I just now documented this on User talk:DavidMCEddy. What more should I do? Thanks, DavidMCEddy (talk) 14:20, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
@DavidMCEddy: OK, it looks like there are two tickets out there. I responded to one (ticket: 2016123010010381), you are responding to the other (ticket: 2016123010010166). Secondarily, there are two email addresses involved which you appear to be using, and the one I responded to is not the one you gave above (for privacy reasons, I cannot specify the actual email address on here; is it possible that you have two email addresses, or you have one email address that links to another?).
Yes, I incorrectly used another email address when I should have used spencer.graves@prodsyse.com with Wikipedia. I use two different email addresses for ostensibly different purposes, and I sometimes use the wrong one, as I did in this case. In responding to an email challenging photos I got from Stephanie Kelton, I noticed that the photo I got from Hadley Wickham had been deleted. Your action led to the deletion of the Wickham photo.
How can I find an administrator or OTRS team member who deleted these photos? User:Secondarywaltz said I needed to contact an "administrator or OSTR team member who deleted" the photos. I looked but could not find how to do that. Assistance with that would be appreciated. Thanks, DavidMCEddy (talk) 00:18, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
I am going to ask another volunteer to look at this since I don't have the time right now. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 18:03, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. DavidMCEddy (talk) 00:18, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
Could you please also ask your other volunteer to review the four Kelton photos that have been deleted as well as the Wickham photo? User: Secondarywaltz said I should ask you for a review of all five photos. Thanks, DavidMCEddy (talk) 00:45, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
@DavidMCEddy: I have restored two of the Kelton photos. We are experiencing technical difficulties so I can't respond by email right now. I cannot stress enough that all this is very much out of the ordinary; our software is usually quite reliable. Sorry about that. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 02:29, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
As for the Hadley Wickam photo, did my response sufficiently explain what we should do from here? Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 02:34, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
Not at all, because I have not seen your response. I have no idea where you posted it or how I should have received it.
On 2016-12-30 9:37 AM Central Time [15:37 GMT, if I'm not mistaken], I sent an email, subject: "restore File:Hadley-wickham2016-02-04.jpg", forwarding an email that I had received from Dr. Wickham, 2/4/2016 2:38 PM, in which he said, "Photo attached - you can license as CC-SA." Have you seen this documentation? Thanks, DavidMCEddy (talk) 04:04, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
@DavidMCEddy: Yes, and I responded to the effectivedefense.org email address as stated above. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 05:12, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
Could you please post here what you claim to have sent me recently?
I've searched my all my archives back to Dec. 2014 plus my recent spam for "wikim" and "magog". That identified the 2016-02-06 email you sent: I apologize: I filed it without reading it and understanding its importance. I found other emails from "wikim", including five from user:Secondarywaltz regarding the Kelton photos, but only the one stamped 2016-02-06 discussing that Wickham photo. Thanks, DavidMCEddy (talk) 00:42, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

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@DavidMCEddy: first, I've undeleted File:Kelton classroom photo.png. Second, the gist of my Hadley Wickam email is that we require a license from the copyright holder, who should email us directly. The email template is here: Commons:Email templates. The email for photo submissions is photosubmission@wikimedia.org. Please request that the text [Ticket#2016020710001096] be included in the subject line of the message. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 04:47, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. I've just sent such a request to Wickham. (It also just occurred to me to look in junk folders I had not previously checked, and I found emails on this stamped 2016-03-30 and 2017-01-01.) DavidMCEddy (talk) 14:19, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

About your decision to delete some pictures.[edit]

Sorry, but I do not really understand your decision. Deleted pictures (Banatski Brestovac, Banatski Novo Selo!!!, all pictures are deleted!! look at the site, please).--AustrianFreedom (talk) 07:54, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

There are no legal problems with the uploaded pictures, If I call the authors so I did. Sorry, but that is a matter of fact.--AustrianFreedom (talk) 08:12, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

I did it again.--AustrianFreedom (talk) 08:58, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

@AustrianFreedom: if you talked to the copyright owners, we will need proof of this. We cannot go based off your word or anyone else's, since people make mistakes, especially newcomers who don't understand our strict copyright policies. Please see Commons:Email templates for instructions. The page is multilingual. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 02:48, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Gracias[edit]

Don't worry, everybody makes mistakes. OK I'll put the template the next time. Thank you very much. --Aidalova (talk) 07:51, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

On purpose, the file Logo Federación Ambientalista Internacional.jpg it was delate too. The author send the authoritation. Can you check it out, please? Thanks.--Aidalova (talk) 08:39, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
@Aidalova: ✓ Done Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 04:42, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Nudge[edit]

Just for info and because of your block on a similar named user. I'm actually fairly sure it is someone from way back but the name eludes me for now. Cheers --Herby talk thyme 16:11, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Please, pay an eye[edit]

See contributions by this user. Thanks in advance.--Fixertool (talk) 22:42, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

@Fixertool: do you have reason to think this is a sock, or just yet another serial Latin American soccer copyright violator? Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 04:37, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Maybe this is just another serial copyright violator. Thanks for your help.--Fixertool (talk) 08:30, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi. More to check. Thanks.--Fixertool (talk) 21:38, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

File:Nutmeg 2.jpg[edit]

Commons-emblem-issue.svg File:Nutmeg 2.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue.
Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!


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File:Etsi dei Filius.pdf[edit]

Il file è di dominio pubblico in quanto pubblicato su diversi testi divulgativi a tema "Oblati di Maria Vergine" (ho infatti copiato integralmente il testo dal Libro: Padre Timothy Gallagher OMV, Un' esperienza nello spirito, Pio Bruno Lanteri, il suo carisma nelle sue parole, Cuneo, Edizione a cura della provincia italiana degli Oblati di Maria Vergine, 1989) inoltre la breve etsi dei filius" (ovvero la lettera) è consultabile sul sito: asv segreteria dei brevi 1826 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mindspower (talk • contribs) 09:57, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

@Blackcat: could you please help out here? Thanks. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 23:00, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
Mindspower, ok, non stiamo a sindacare il copyright, ma Magog vorrebbe capire qual è la pertinenza di tale documento. A seguire, a titolo personale e come amministratore posso chiederti, quando carichi un qualsiasi file, di essere il più specifico possibile circa descrizione, generalità, anno di pubblicazione, e status legale dello stesso? I tuoi caricamenti sono carenti sotto questi profili. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 09:14, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

Blocking of sock-puppets[edit]

Hello Magog the Ogre and Happy New Year, 1 hour ago I decided to check where some of my ex-contra-users gone and I've found out this, freankly speaking I was thinking that all of them had same goal and purpose. "User:Leftcry" (WhyHellWhy) was very active in making and changing of maps according to his biased POV and in his new account with name "User:Turnless" he was lying in face that he didn't know how to use special software for changing maps and etc. You can see here that I really suspected him in sock-puppetry and you see how he denied (of course). Then happened another incident with User:Gyumrilak and you may remember that my suspects arose again. Now you see (and other users proved) that all of them were sock-puppets of one user with name WhyHellWhy, here in commons there is even special category for his sock-puppets. So in the end I am going to ask if you could block those sock-puppets User:Turnless and User:Gyumrilak here as well?--g. balaxaZe 04:29, 16 January 2017 (UTC)