User talk:Magog the Ogre

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RE:Please do not remove problem tags

i'am sorry.i am a green hand. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 酒虎詩龍 (talk • contribs) 08:50, February 1, 2014‎ (UTC)

Minor cleanup script issue

Minor issue with the cleanup script, apparently with files using the GFDL license template - see File:2006-06-23 - Upsall Grove.JPG for an example. In the attribution text for the license, the string "Listfiles/" is being included before the actual username. Kelly (talk) 07:42, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

This only occurred because you hit the cleanup JS button before you hit the cleanup TS one. Unfortunately, I don't have time or motivation to maintain the cleanup JS version, especially when I have nearly duplicate, and better written code in the TS version. If I do get around to updating the JS version, "stop incorrectly monkeying with the GFDL field" is in the top of my priorities. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 22:25, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks - like I said, not a big deal. I have been hitting the TS button first, but for some reason that one doesn't always include the "int-filedesc" header for me, so I was hitting the JS button after to include that. As always, your scripts are greatly appreciated and are a huge timesaver. Kelly (talk) 01:02, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

The TS version doesn't include the filedesc header because it tries to be very conservative; a user may not want that header when uploading the file. However, the JS version has to be reviewed by hand, so if someone adds the header, then the fault falls on them, not me. But yes there are a few major bugs in the JS, and I need to just buck up and fix them. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 04:47, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Giorgi Balakhadze again

• See also: User talk:Giorgi Balakhadze

User:Giorgi Balakhadze is edit warring again, and this time to get images renamed because it uses a name in a language they don't like. This was done on File:Tkvarcheli mountains.jpg and File:Ural with coal Tkvarcheli.jpg. In both cases I reverted with the note that "A name in a different language is not an "obvious error"", and in both cases they reverted this without even leaving an edit summary. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 01:21, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Inexplicable. Is there a cultural disconnect or a language misunderstanding here? I'm about to block this user for a while. Again. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 04:43, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Hah good job pro-secessionist Chipmunkdavis, Magog the Ogre as you can see the only and correct name of this town and its district is Tkvarcheli and Tkvarcheli District. See sources ► Yearbook of the United Nations 2005, The Guns of August 2008: Russia's War in Georgia, People from Tkvarcheli District, Resolutions and Decisions of the Security Council so user Chipmunkdavis stop your vile behavior! It is you who edit warring not me. --g. balaxaZeႫ 06:14, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

The name in one language is not more "correct" than that of another language. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 13:19, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

File:Lagocephalus lagocephalus

Thank you, next time I'll do surely--Etrusko25 (talk) 21:38, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

No problem; that's why I created the template, so I can inform people who don't know about it. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 22:35, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

OgreBot 2 cleanup error

User_talk:Magog_the_Ogre/Archive_8#OgreBot_2_cleanup_error - it still happens, see [1]. This should only happen if a GFDL-user-de template is present which then needs the not-eligible parameter added (unless another migration parameter is already present). Could you improve your script so it replaces localized file prefixes (like german datei: or bild:) inside gallery tags to file: ?--Denniss (talk) 07:06, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

 Done - fixed. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 22:52, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

File:State Farm logo.svg

This file was not moved from Wikipedia. A newer (official and slightly different) version of it was extracted and put on Commons. Ogrebot added transfer information and old files to it. Thanks, The Haz _talk 04:16, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Well it doesn't hurt to store the old versions in the history there for reference, in case we need them again. If the changes are substantial enough that they shouldn't be in the same image, then it shouldn't be marked as {{NowCommons}}. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 13:49, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Not a problem. I was just curious as it's different (for me) compared to when I am "officially" moving files to Commons. Thanks, The Haz _talk 05:44, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Sometimes people get mad when I overwrite "their" uploads because they don't feel like the author anymore, or because it doesn't show up in their upload history. Glad we're not dealing with that. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 05:46, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

File:The missing shadow of the U.S.A flag on the moon.jpg

I had tagged it as a duplicate of File:NASA AS-11-40-5875.jpg but you say it was "slightly doctored". I was just wondering what changes you noticed. Rybec (talk) 04:39, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

I still have the page opened in my browser. After taking a closer look I realised it's a duplicate of File:Buzz salutes the U.S. Flag.jpg, not of the other file, and wasn't retouched. Rybec (talk) 04:48, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for fixing the log message! Rybec (talk) 22:28, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

No problem. Tbh, I probably shouldn't have deleted it, but given the title, I just assumed it was some conspiracy theory nonsense where someone changed something to push an agenda. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 22:42, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

copyright

I was wrong in that case. News is no valid in this... Sorry.. please remove that video. NehalDaveND (talk) 02:10, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Well we give you a warning so that you can learn, so it's OK this time. But please do not upload any works unless you are completely the author of them. Thanks. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 02:11, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Fredtham59

YOU SAID: Files uploaded by Fredtham59 (talk · contribs) This user has already engaged in known license laundering...

To accuse someone of license laundering is a serious matter. I find photos with appropriate license(CC BY-SA 3.0) and then upload them, no more no less ! I do not contest the images validity but if someone have to be accused of License laundering address your concern and warning to the panoramio and flick users not me! I did not find any rules that said that prior to upload a file with a valid license(CC BY-SA 3.0), I must go through extensive research. If I am wrong prove it, otherwise review your wording as I find it extremely offensive, totally unjustified especially when it comes from an administrators who obviously do not respect one fundamental: USER GOOD FAITH ! Fredtham59 (talk) 08:12, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

I've copied your text over from the now closed discussion at English Wikipedia, and it can be found below. Nick (talk) 19:34, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you I already adress the issue here Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/User problems section report administratorFredtham59 (talk) 19:43, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Text from English Wikipedia

After being accused by administrators Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) here Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Fredtham59 for being already engaged in known license laundering, I requested explanation on his User talk:Magog the Ogre and leave the following message:

To accuse someone of license laundering is a serious matter. I find photos with appropriate license(CC BY-SA 3.0) and then upload them, no more no less ! I do not contest the images validity but if someone have to be accused of License laundering address your concern and warning to the panoramio and flick users not me! I did not find any rules that said that prior to upload a file with a valid license(CC BY-SA 3.0), I must go through extensive research. If I am wrong prove it, otherwise review your wording as I find it extremely offensive, totally unjustified especially when it comes from an administrators who obviously do not respect one fundamental: USER GOOD FAITH ! Fredtham59 (talk) 08:12, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Then surprise. Administrator Magog the Ogre here User talk:Marcus Cyron make a clear threat:

The above user is apparently trying really hard to get blocked for license laundering.

This is a serious breach of WP:ADMIN Wikipedia:Civility WP:IDENTIFYUNCIVIL conduct.

Furthermore :

• Commons:License laundering make it clear that license laundering is not my fault since such uploads may evade detection as copyright, since the source website appears to provide "evidence" for the license. I do not contest license laundering I contest of being wrongly accused of license laundering.
• I also tried my best to explain why I have reason to not suspect "license laundering" prior to upload the files hereCommons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Fredtham59 following an invitation on my talk page. Administrator are expected to be fair, exercise good judgment. Visibly we do not have the same concept of "Fairness"
• Administrators are expected to lead by example and to behave in a respectful, civil manner in their interactions with others WP:NOTPERFECT. Does the treat he made should be regarded as respectful and civil ?
• Harassment"Do not stop other editors from enjoying Wikipedia by making threats". Are administrators above wikipedia policy ?
• Although I do not care on the photo outcome, since the administrator leave the treat message on a user talk page involved with the dispute resolution, there is a clear COIWP:CONFLICTand WP:NPOV for both users Magog the Ogre here User talk:Marcus Cyron within the consensus-forming process.
• Assuming good faith is a fundamental principle on Wikipedia but that right is denied, before I can explain myself I am already labeled as guilty of license laundering.
• WP:ADMINABUSE I did follow the procedure by leaving a message on his talk page, he had time to make treat on other user talk page but can't respond to my polite request.Administrator are expected to give explanations and be communicative as necessary Wikipedia:Administrators. It seems that this administrator have little concern with that.

I am not asking much:

• My right to participate to the dispute resolution without treat of being banned.
• Be fairly treated, unless an other administrator will make the final decision, I have good reason it will not be the case.
• Reword template and conversation that said "This user" by " the photos author"
• Formal apologize from the administrator.

Best Regards Fredtham59 (talk) 18:53, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Communication failure

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Nikolaus_Kopernikus-thumb.jpg

It is almost impossible to make any sense of what you have said about the licence error on this image, and how to correct it, without a level of technical knowledge which is beyond me.

It would be helpful in your emails to have a "Reply" link which enables a response to be made to the place and in a form which might reach you, and/or make sense to you.

As it is, the obvious error that I have made is responded to in a manner which encourages people with limited understanding of the wiki environment, simply to download stuff, do what they want with it, and fail absolutely to give commons.wikimedia and its contributors the credit for which they are surely due, let alone give anything back to the community. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidhop (talk • contribs)

File:Nikolaus_Kopernikus-thumb.jpg has been deleted as it was simply a (smaller) duplicate of File:Nikolaus Kopernikus.jpg. Hope that helps. --Túrelio (talk) 20:02, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

@Davidhop: the message I left on your talk page was because you uploaded a scaled down image of a painting and gave it the {{cc-by-sa-3.0}} license instead of the correct one, which is {{PD-old}}. You made a similar mistake here: [2]. This was a friendly way on my part to ask that you try to copy the license correctly, rather than just choose a boilerplate license from the dropdown which doesn't correspond to the correct license.

If you have any questions on how to perform an upload, let me know, or you can ask at the help desk. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 01:13, 8 March 2014 (UTC)