File talk:Flag of MLSTP.svg

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Why the original flag should be used

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The correct flag to use here is the old flag of the MLSTP independence movement and not the MLSTP-PSD flag that is in use now. The reasons are as follows:

  1. The original file was the original flag (the one somewhat similar to the national flag), the "upload a new version"-button is for improved versions or improved code, it should not be used to upload a different flag under the same file name.
  2. This file is in use on different Wikipedia pages where it represents the original flag, changing the file without changing the WP pages drastically changes the content of those pages.
  3. The categories on this file are based on the original flag, changing the file without changing the categories makes no sense.
  4. The copyright licence information on this file is based on the original flag, changing the file without changing the licence information makes no sense and is incorrect.
  5. The file is called Flag of MLSTP.svg, so it should contain the flag of the MLSTP indepence movement, not of the MLSTP-PSD political party (since 1990). If you want to upload a new flag, please do so at File:Flag of MLTSTP-PSD.svg or a similar filename.

Therefore I have again reverted back to the original file and will keep doing so unless someone convinces me that I'm wrong (which I am not). - FakirNL (talk) 23:23, 3 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If you revert the file again I will ask that you be blocked from editing for edit warring. We do not need duplicate files, and the file you keep reverting to is identical to File:Flag of São Tomé and Príncipe.svg. Fry1989 eh? 00:25, 4 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It is not a duplicate file! In the MLSTP-flag the three lanes are of equal height, so the black stars almost touch the green. In the Flag of Sao Tomé and Principe the lanes have proportions 2:3:2 so the yellow lane is wider. I'll admit the difference is small, but it's fundamental. Please upload the MLSTP-PSD-flag as a different file. - FakirNL (talk) 01:01, 4 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
If you're so right, why don't you have a source? Why have you not posted even one? Hallel did post a source when they changed the file. Fry1989 eh? 17:55, 4 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The source is given as the source of the original upload. - FakirNL (talk) 18:38, 4 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
And the source given by Hallel when he changed the file doesn't even support his own change; probably why he reverted himself in the first place. - FakirNL (talk) 18:59, 4 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

What do the sources say?

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The source http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/Flags/st%7D.html#mlstp presented by User:Thommy9 in the original upload and the source http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/st%7D.html presented by User:Hallel when he changed the flag into a different design (something he himself undid two months later) refer to the same page, but what does it say?

"the flag of the MLSTP (said to be designed by its leader Manuel Pinto da Costa) was modified a little to create the new national flag (in 1974)"
"The only difference is that the Liberation Movement flag had equal horizontal stripes."

So it claims twice that there is definitely a difference between the STP national flag and the MLSTP liberation flag as uploaded in this file. This is also seen in the svg-code where the MLSTP flag has three equal stripes and the STP national flag has stripes in the ratio 2:3:2.

What does it say about the alternate design as uploaded by Hallel and as favored by User:Fry1989? Nothing! Although there is an flag used by the political party MLSTP-PSD since 1990, this is design has a hand and a torch and is different from Hallels upload. From this I can only conclude that the original file is sourced and the alternate design is not. - FakirNL (talk) 01:37, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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