Template talk:Exhibited at the Royal Academy summer exhibition

Dates and places

Continuing from the discussion at Template talk:Exhibited at the Salon:

The Royal Academy's annual exhibitions were held:

1769-1779 Pall Mall

1780-1836 Somerset House

1837-1867 Trafalgar Square

1868-present Burlington House

Royal Academy of Arts lists these dates correctly, though not in specific reference to the exhibition itself. I researched contemporary periodicals for references to the exhibitions in the years of the moves and confirmed these dates, except for 1868, for which I could find no direct statement to confirm that the exhibition was held at the new premises, or when exactly the Academy moved. (I found quite a bit about the new buildings, but the Academy moved directly into the old building. A new floor was added to the old building, but the exhibition rooms were located on the first floor.) Laura1822 (talk) 15:17, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for the research, I have added this as a default in the template but it can be overridden by adding |place= with the relevant place.--Zolo (talk) 18:47, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Thank you!! Laura1822 (talk) 18:52, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Requests

Two requests for small things, not a big priority:

1. Can you change the output so that the |as= parameter displays in italics?

2. Can you add a space after "Cat." in the output for "Cat. no."?

These changes would be appropriate in English for other similar templates. Laura1822 (talk) 15:45, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

1) if I do this it should be done directly in {{Temporary exhibition}} so that all templates behave the same, but this does not seem like a good idea, because it may happen that we do not want the italics (especially if the title is in non-Latin script) and escaping italics added by a template tends to cause a mess.

2) done. --Zolo (talk) 18:47, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! Laura1822 (talk) 18:52, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Category

I created the associated Category:Exhibited at the Royal Academy summer exhibition, copying the code and text from Category:Exhibited at the Salon, but it doesn't work. How do I fix it? Laura1822 (talk) 16:02, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

 Done parameters were not properly separated through a "|".

Thanks! I looked and looked but could not see it. Laura1822 (talk) 18:53, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Error

Files using the template are now displaying:

Expression error: Unrecognized punctuation character "{".

Laura1822 (talk) 18:51, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Oops, typo, should be fixed now. --Zolo (talk) 19:28, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

You are so awesome!! Laura1822 (talk) 19:58, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

request

I have been populating this category by searching for keywords and editing file descriptions to add the template. I am delighted with it! Thank you so much for creating it.

I have a small request: would you please make the output place the text that appears in the |as= parameter appear in italics? I have been adding this formatting manually and haven't yet come across one where I think it would be inappropriate. Thank you! Oops, already had this discussion.  :) Laura1822 (talk) 20:47, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

how it works

@Zolo: thanks again for making this template!

I thought I might try to copy this to make a template for the RA Old Masters (winter) exhibition. So I was studying this template and I noticed that some of it still refers to the "Salon." I know you copied it from the Paris Salon template, and I was wondering if these bits that refer to the Salon in this template simply don't do anything, or if they should be updated to say Royal Academy instead?

I noticed in Category: Multilingual tags: Exhibitions in the United Kingdom that there are already several RA Old Masters templates for specific years. I think it would be better to have a single, more generic template like this one for the summer which could have an associated category. (There are a few in the category that look like they are generic, but they aren't.) I will mention it to the author of those templates and ask if I can help to consolidate them but I wanted to try to understand how it works before I do, and before I try to make something new.

Also, I'd like to update this template to use the standard documentation format, but I'm not sure exactly how to do it. Can I just copy it from {{Temporary Exhibition}}? Do I need to create a /doc page or will it do that automatically? Laura1822 (talk) 12:43, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

@Laura1822: the leftover "salon" part {{Exhibited at the Royal Academy summer exhibition}} categorizes in Category:Salon de peinture et de sculpture by year. We can create similar categories for the Royal Academy. For the Royal Academy and others, we could either:

1. categorize everything in Category:Exhibited at the Royal Academy summer exhibition
2. do the same as for the Salon: create one category per year.
3. completely drop the |homecat = part and let users decide on a file by file basis.

I am not sure that creating categories for each year is still really useful. If we want lists of artworks shown in a particular exhibition, we can now use Wikidata (see d:Talk:Q15273842 for the Salon of 1808).

The documentation page will not be created automatically. Best is to add {{documentation}} in the 'noinclude' part of the template and then follow the red link to create it. --Zolo (talk) 09:30, 15 July 2015 (UTC)