Commons:Valued image candidates/Rhithrogena germanica subimago on Equisetum hyemale.jpg

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Rhithrogena germanica subimago on Equisetum hyemale.jpg

promoted
Image
Nominated by Richard Bartz (talk) on 2009-03-13 14:56 (UTC)
Scope Nominated as the most valued image on Commons within the scope:
Subimago
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Global usage

en:Subimago, fr:Subimago, de:Eintagsfliegen, fr:Rhithrogena germanica, tr:Böcek, ko:하루살이목, ar:حشرة, lb:Schielmécken, zh:蜉蝣
Review
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The other version has a bad name and will be deleted ……Richard Bartz (talk) 22:08, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I was thinking of File:Ephemeroptera on Equisetum arvense edit.jpg which appears to be a crop of this image. It may need a {{Rename media}} tag. Walter Siegmund (talk) 01:49, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
This file was only used on enWP FPC and should be deleted because it has a bad name, too. --Richard Bartz (talk) 12:09, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I added the rename media tag. I think it is better to retain the file so that the discussion at en:Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/File:Ephemeroptera on Equisetum arvense.jpg does not have a bad picture link. I noticed that the cropped version does not seem to have been discussed or mentioned, however, even by the uploader, Fir0002. Walter Siegmund (talk) 18:22, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Question What in the picture tells us that it is actually a subimago? BTW, independently of this review, I think the picture could safely be nominated with the species as the scope, since it is the only picture we have of it (a picture can be nominated several times with different scopes). --Eusebius (talk) 12:14, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It has something to do with the look if it's a subimago or not. --Richard Bartz (talk) 15:18, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I don't get you? --Eusebius (talk) 15:47, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Look - appearance --Richard Bartz (talk) 18:22, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, that I understand, but could you please point out what, in the look or appearance, visible on this image, is specific to a subimago (and by which one can tell it's not an imago)? --Eusebius (talk) 18:40, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I still waiting for a response of a enthomologist specialized in mayflies -- maybe he has diapause, too ;-) What I know for shure is that the wings of a subimago are dull. Finer differentiations can only described by an enthomologist. --Richard Bartz (talk) 14:08, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Picture of a imago. The milky/fuzzy phenomenon is clearly visible if you know the difference. --Richard Bartz (talk) 20:53, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Question It seems for me that the remaining doubts have been sorted out, and that we can close the nom?
  •  Info As Eusebius has also mentioned it could be relevant to nominate this as a species scope as well. An image can be VI within more than one scope. --Slaunger (talk) 23:40, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment Though I can appreciate the difference between subimago and imago in R. germanica now, I'm still not convinced if this is the best way to illustrate this aspect of insect development (it being rather difficult to see, especially for a layman). Of course the photograph would satisfy the criteria under a species scope. Lycaon (talk) 23:51, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
We don't illustrate a children's book, so not everything must (and can) be self-explanatory without prior knowledge. --Richard Bartz (talk) 00:49, 23 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Technical note: if somebody promotes this candidate, please remove it from the list at once, try not to let a bot process it again! Thanks. --Eusebius (talk) 07:56, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Result: 1 support, 0 oppose =>
promoted. Eusebius (talk) 11:50, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
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