User talk:Billinghurst

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Speedy deletion for duplicates

Hi, thanks for the explanation, how should I notify these files than? Tremendo (talk) 17:56, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Apologies for the tardy reply. I thought that I covered that with the link, they would follow a normal deletion process.  — billinghurst sDrewth 09:38, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

SDrewthbot removes interwiki links

Hi, I fail to understand why SDrewthbot removes interlanguagelinks from some disambiguation categories. --Foroa (talk) 06:56, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Not sure which bit is the question, that the bot removed them or that the links were removed. The interwiki links were removed as they were showing up in disambiguation categories with links.  — billinghurst sDrewth 09:32, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

In the mean time, I noticed that you removed valid interlanguage links too. Those links are very important and dabs tend to be very country specific (and badly maintained). So the question is why you remove them and where are those cats "showing up in disambiguation categories with links." ? --Foroa (talk) 09:39, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Category:Non-empty_disambiguation_categories  — billinghurst sDrewth 09:48, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Dab categories appear in Category:Non-empty_disambiguation_categories when they are not empty (not always immediatly when an item was assigned to it by a bot). Those items disappear from Category:Non-empty_disambiguation_categories when they become empty and:

• A dummy edit is done on it
• after some days, sometimes a week if nothing is done.

Sometimes, the process is accelerated by doing a dummy edit on the {{Disambig}}, but that doesn't seem to work always. You have similar behaviour on Category:Non-empty_category redirects and Category:Broken category redirects, but those tend to be updated with less delay.

Changing red links or interwiki links on disambig cats don't change it behaviour, except that you think it works as with dummy edits. --Foroa (talk) 15:24, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Went through all those steps, but what the heck. Probably wise to add some actual clarity to the catch-all category page itself, rather than the unhelpful instructions that are there. Personally I cannot see any point or value in interwiki links on disambiguated categories like that at Commons, we are simply disambiguating our pages as guidance to others local, but if that is what people want to do, what do I care how they spend their time.  — billinghurst sDrewth 01:39, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Disambiguation cats tend to be badly maintained and very language/culture specific. If you knew the massive amount of items we've got in Berg (Germanic of mountain), Santa, Arbre, Grave, ... So interwiki help there is much more useful than on normal categories, especially on categories like Castell, Castelli, Kapelle, Newport, ... and for example some Polish villages that have 15 to 20 different versions. Maintaining a dab on wikipedia is already a challenge, maintaining one on the crossroad of all wikipedias is even more difficult. --Foroa (talk) 06:18, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

your deletion of Category:Corpshaus

There are more than one of a name in Germany in one place, so that your move was not helpful. For an instance there is a Corps Brunsviga and a Burschenschaft Brunsviga in Göttingen, both own houses. The house of a student corps is always and only a corpshaus. That was the intended difference. Also the corps own corpshouses and the others dont, because they are no corps. Furthermore Koporation is a terminus technicus that describes old, preconstitutional (in the meanig of before the BGB (German civil code) which came into effect on 1.1.1900) bodies, which would include all the others... So you really meant "Houses of student Korporations", but it has been screwed up a little anyway. We should discuss the reimplementation of the good old Corpshaus and otherwise change the subcats using the full title of the fraternity.--Kresspahl (talk) 19:25, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

I just cleaned up after the moves. The moves were ordered by another.  — billinghurst sDrewth 00:15, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

US soldiers in Kandahar

Hi. Can you please redirect these 2 files to my version. [1] [2] I have uploaded these 2 in July 2012, a month before Slick-o-bot. Slick-o-bot chose very long names for the files.--Officer (talk) 14:42, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

They have been dealt with and the larger files were kept. Redirects can be used.  — billinghurst sDrewth 14:44, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

BSicon rename

Hello! This edit you made should have been the opposite: "BSicon_dÜWo+l.svg" is the bad old name and "BSicon_dSTR+1.svg" is the good new name. Can you undo it, please? -- Tuválkin ✉ 14:23, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

That is not how {{duplicate}} works. The expected protocol is that the old file stays where the files are of equal quality. If you want something different, then you will need to get a {{rename}} request on the page. Note that the rename tool hates those BSicon links and the shortcut templates, and doesn't do replacements well.  — billinghurst sDrewth 14:30, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Okay, you misunderstood the original request, alright? After that, your lessons on protocol sound a little defensive, really. If you dont want to handle BS_icon rename requests, well… don’t bother — there’s a few people with filemoving rights who know the ropes about BS_icons. Thanks. -- Tuválkin ✉ 18:13, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

No, I did not misunderstand the request. The request was handled as per the protocol for {{duplicate}} requests, which is what you made. You were wanting a process in line with {{rename}}.
Defensive? No, I was indicating that due to the means that the rail line project uses those icons they cannot be bot fixed, they need to be done manually. They are basically a time-consuming process, so the demands when someone makes an innocuous decision to have a renamed icon has ramifications through the system.  — billinghurst sDrewth 23:08, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

File:יהואש צווייטע.pdf

File:יהואש צווייטע.pdf has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

– Quadell (talk) 15:03, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

I'm afraid it's in yiddish and I don't understand it. It appears to be two pages of poetry. Not sure of its significance. --Eliyak (talk) 03:02, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Fair call, we will just fate decide it. Thanks for looking.  — billinghurst sDrewth 03:20, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

File:Hugh llewelyn 4309 (5961574176).jpg

Hi there. I don't think it matters which file was kept, seeing as they were the same, but since I'd tagged the one I specifically didn't re-categorize it to match the one I'd uploaded, which was properly categorized. I hope in the future you consider merging the categories in these cases. Best, Mackensen (talk) 20:26, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

There is a protocol to follow when the files are same size and quality, and that is to keep the older file. People fell miffed when the file that they uploaded (up to) years earlier is deleted in place of a new file. In fact you are feeling miffed on the simple example of the file that you uploaded and it had only been in place a day or so. There other factors as well to consider, but in the case that you bring that is how I made the assessment.  — billinghurst sDrewth 00:04, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Actually, I'm not miffed about that at all and I said as much in my original comment. I'm simply miffed that I had re-categorize the image, especially as not being an administrator on this project I'm unable to view the deleted image and the categories it had. There was no indication whatsoever from you that the image had been deleted; I only noticed because I happened to be viewing a category in which it belonged and I did not see it there. I then looked back in my edit history to find the original image and re-categorized it. I'm now here on your talk page explaining why this wasn't a great outcome for all involved, and suggesting gently that could have either (a) categorized the original image to match the new image prior to deleting the new image or (b) at least letting me know what was going to happen. Mackensen (talk) 00:21, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Okay. If it had existed for a longer period, and especially with evidence of use, there would have been a 'merge', where the cats would have gone over, but it also creates a redirect; the instruction for new files is to delete, not create redirects. It is a less than perfect system, and manually comparing and eye-checking against many factors is just difficult, similarly having to tell every user about a change. We do try to strike the right balance, but are imperfect beasts in ourselves.  — billinghurst sDrewth 01:04, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

File:Close-up view of the sky around the star HD 10180.jpg

Hi, Billinghurst. Why did you deleted this file, but keeped File:Eso1035c.jpg? This file has incorrect, meaningless name and it has bad quality and lower size compared to the original [3]. (size of File:Eso1035c.jpg - 376 kB, and size of File:Close-up view of the sky around the star HD 10180.jpg - 383 kB). Stas1995 (talk) 09:43, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

They are the same dimensions, and the quality difference is miniscule. There would be a lot of renames, for no real benefit.  — billinghurst sDrewth 09:59, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Duplicates

Thanks for the cleanup! -- Daniel Mietchen - WiR/OS (talk) 00:20, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

I did have a tad of <grrrr> as I was paddling through them, then I saw it was you and basically thought it probably fell into "shit happens" category (we need to create that). I cheated in the end and didn't use the nice but slow tools.:-)  — billinghurst sDrewth 00:29, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Your assistance please

You deleted Category:Union Station, Toronto, Tracks and Trainshed. Did you realize it was under discussion at Commons:Categories for discussion/2013/05/Category:Union Station, Toronto, Tracks and Trainshed? I think that makes speedy deletion premature.

So, could you please restore the category? Geo Swan (talk) 15:39, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Speak to the admin who put it into the queue to get all the components moved (it will be in the history of User:CommonsDelinker/commands and presumably the talk page), they presumably determined that it was closed. I just tidied up after the move.  — billinghurst sDrewth 00:06, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Actually, you got the order wrong.

They listed it at COM:CDC first. I opened Commons:Categories for discussion/2013/05/Category:Union Station, Toronto, Tracks and Trainshed when I found the contents I spent a couple of hours putting images into the article had been removed by the bot, without any prior discussion. I had never hear of COM:CDC prior to that contributor mentioning it after I initiated the discussion, so there is no way I could have asked them why why they directed the category change. Geo Swan (talk) 00:23, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

A move is a move; the admin must order the move, please discuss it with them. Or start the conversation to move it back, no real fuss. As I said, I was just tidying up after the move.  — billinghurst sDrewth 00:59, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi, your sig is missing [4] here. --Túrelio (talk) 08:45, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

File:Horrocks in Rees.jpg and File:British Generals 1939-1945 BU2411.jpg

You deleted second file although it was better quality, and the first one is just scaled-up 345×325. Ain92 (talk) 17:38, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

I have reverted to status quo, and we can let someone else look at it  — billinghurst sDrewth 00:15, 16 May 2013 (UTC)