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== Absolutely disgusting attacks on yourself == |
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[[:en:Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2012-07-16/Special report]] has just been brought to my attention, and I am absolutely dumbfounded that this has been allowed to stand as is on the project. As you are fully aware, I am banned from English Wikipedia for the harmless posting of a harmless comic on my userpage, and now no longer have access to my talk page on that project. I was going to send this to you privately, and also cc it to English Wikipedia Arbcom, but in doing so, it would not be see the light of day, especially given that the many English Wikipedia Arbcom members have for many months now refused to enter into dialogue on various issues, and actively ignore concerns sent to them by many editors, myself included. This Arbcom is probably the worst that I, and others, have ever seen. |
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I want to make specific comment in relation to the following: |
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{{quote|claims that Fæ "has violated or supported the violation of (alleged) sex workers' privacy while complaining about comments about his own amateur pornography which he freely uploaded onto Wikipedia".}} |
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A link to [[:en:Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Fæ/Evidence#Response_to_Fae.27s_comment_on_me]] was also provided. |
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I remember this "case" very clearly, because in explaining to you on IRC, why I did not support your RfA here on Commons, I raised [[Commons:Deletion requests/File:Prostitutes in the street of Reeperbahn.jpg]] as one of the reasons as to why I didn't support your RfA at that time. You may remember this conversation? Maybe not. Anyway.... |
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The description of the file in question as it stood at the time of the DR was: |
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{{collapse|{{delete|reason=Although it's perfectly possible that these people are actually sex workers, there is no evidence in the photo or the linked source that they are. Since the photo was taken in 2005, at least some of them will still be living people today - and at least some of them are identifiable. I guess we could rename the photograph to not include prostitutes in the name - but then it would be an out of scope personal photo with no likely educational use anyway. On any other project, describing particular living people as prostitutes without a RS stating such would not only be instantly removed, but probably suppressed. It's in violation of the Board's BLP resolution and of [[Commons:Photographs_of_identifiable_people]] and should thus be deleted.|subpage=File:Prostitutes_in_the_street_of_Reeperbahn.jpg|year=2011|month=September|day=19}} |
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|Description = Prostitutes are standing in the front of the building who reside there for sex in the street of Reeperbahn in district of St Pauli, Hamburg, Germany. |
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|Source = originally posted to '''[[Flickr|Flickr]]''' as [http://linkremoved Name of file removed] |
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|Date = 2005-04-28 07:45:33 |
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|Permission = {{User:Flickr upload bot/upload|date=22:55, 23 July 2008 (UTC)|reviewer=Otolemur crassicaudatus}} |
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[[:Category:Prostitution at the Reeperbahn]] |
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After editing by yourself, the description was changed to: |
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{{collapse|{{delete|reason=Although it's perfectly possible that these people are actually sex workers, there is no evidence in the photo or the linked source that they are. Since the photo was taken in 2005, at least some of them will still be living people today - and at least some of them are identifiable. I guess we could rename the photograph to not include prostitutes in the name - but then it would be an out of scope personal photo with no likely educational use anyway. On any other project, describing particular living people as prostitutes without a RS stating such would not only be instantly removed, but probably suppressed. It's in violation of the Board's BLP resolution and of [[Commons:Photographs_of_identifiable_people]] and should thus be deleted.|subpage=File:Prostitutes_in_the_street_of_Reeperbahn.jpg|year=2011|month=September|day=19}} |
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|Description = Street of Reeperbahn in district of St Pauli, Hamburg, Germany. |
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|Source = http://linkremoved ('''my note''' You also removed the title of the image as named on flick''') |
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|Date = 2005-04-28 07:45:33 |
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The edits by yourself demonstrate that you had nothing but respect for the issues that were raised, but after my discussion with you on IRC, it was obvious that you were not aware of one the issues. That being that the [[:en:Reeperbahn|Reeperbahn]] is a red-light district in Hamburg, that is renowned for its prostitution and debauchery. After you were made aware of this, which you weren't previously (which is obvious by your comments on the DR stating that it was a "high street") you agreed with me that in that case it should have been deleted (as it was). |
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In relation to Cohen's (one of your harassers) comments that the photo was left in the English Wikipedia article is irrelevant; you have never edited that article before, nor did you insert the photo, nor did you even look at the article (which you mentioned to me at the time of our IRC discussion). His comments in relation to the article are simply included to make you guilty for it's usage on English Wikipedia; which you obviously are not. |
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Since then, I have been aware of numerous cases where you have dealt with privacy discussions, and have argued for deletion of those files. [[Commons:Deletion requests/File:Skinheads in Brighton, England-2006.jpg]] is but one such example. |
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Yet somehow, it is portrayed that you are only worried about images which either are or aren't of yourself, yadda yadda yadda. Sorry but that is absolute bollocks. |
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The Signpost "Special Report" is nothing but a total hatchet job and a pisspoor attempt at character assassination, and I sincerely hope that you will make the twits on English Wikipedia who are buying into such rubbish aware of this. [[User:Russavia|russavia]] ([[User talk:Russavia|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 01:10, 18 July 2012 (UTC) |
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Absolutely disgusting attacks on yourself
en:Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2012-07-16/Special report has just been brought to my attention, and I am absolutely dumbfounded that this has been allowed to stand as is on the project. As you are fully aware, I am banned from English Wikipedia for the harmless posting of a harmless comic on my userpage, and now no longer have access to my talk page on that project. I was going to send this to you privately, and also cc it to English Wikipedia Arbcom, but in doing so, it would not be see the light of day, especially given that the many English Wikipedia Arbcom members have for many months now refused to enter into dialogue on various issues, and actively ignore concerns sent to them by many editors, myself included. This Arbcom is probably the worst that I, and others, have ever seen.
I want to make specific comment in relation to the following:
claims that Fæ "has violated or supported the violation of (alleged) sex workers' privacy while complaining about comments about his own amateur pornography which he freely uploaded onto Wikipedia".
A link to en:Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Fæ/Evidence#Response_to_Fae.27s_comment_on_me was also provided.
I remember this "case" very clearly, because in explaining to you on IRC, why I did not support your RfA here on Commons, I raised Commons:Deletion requests/File:Prostitutes in the street of Reeperbahn.jpg as one of the reasons as to why I didn't support your RfA at that time. You may remember this conversation? Maybe not. Anyway....
The description of the file in question as it stood at the time of the DR was:
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The edits by yourself demonstrate that you had nothing but respect for the issues that were raised, but after my discussion with you on IRC, it was obvious that you were not aware of one the issues. That being that the Reeperbahn is a red-light district in Hamburg, that is renowned for its prostitution and debauchery. After you were made aware of this, which you weren't previously (which is obvious by your comments on the DR stating that it was a "high street") you agreed with me that in that case it should have been deleted (as it was).
In relation to Cohen's (one of your harassers) comments that the photo was left in the English Wikipedia article is irrelevant; you have never edited that article before, nor did you insert the photo, nor did you even look at the article (which you mentioned to me at the time of our IRC discussion). His comments in relation to the article are simply included to make you guilty for it's usage on English Wikipedia; which you obviously are not.
Since then, I have been aware of numerous cases where you have dealt with privacy discussions, and have argued for deletion of those files. Commons:Deletion requests/File:Skinheads in Brighton, England-2006.jpg is but one such example.
Yet somehow, it is portrayed that you are only worried about images which either are or aren't of yourself, yadda yadda yadda. Sorry but that is absolute bollocks.
The Signpost "Special Report" is nothing but a total hatchet job and a pisspoor attempt at character assassination, and I sincerely hope that you will make the twits on English Wikipedia who are buying into such rubbish aware of this. russavia (talk) 01:10, 18 July 2012 (UTC)