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[edit]@Koavf: Please think a little : if we're starting to categorize every production (TV series, films...) in categories of every member of its cast, it will be crazy! Directors or screenwriters/creators, OK (actually, you write "Why *wouldn't* this be a subcategory of David E. Kelly as he created the show?" but you could easily see that I did keep the creator's category!), but not cast! For the cast, it's actually the other way around: you may create Category:Ally McBeal cast like Category:Game of Thrones cast and many other examples. Thanks in advance. --TwoWings * to talk or not to talk... 08:49, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
- @TwoWings: Instead of leaving an edit summary of "stop reverting and talk" while reverting and then a post that says "think a little" which is rude and bad faith, how could you have approached this differently? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 14:37, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
- Alright. Don't try to realize how irritating was your double revert without any discussion effort. It's so easy to play the upset guy when you're wrong. --TwoWings * to talk or not to talk... 19:33, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
- @TwoWings: So you never had a policy or guideline that's germane? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:45, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
- Whatever... Keep upset, that's better than saying "alright, I got it, thanks for the explanation, I didn't know and I shouldn't have insisted". Either you stop being upset for nothing or you understand that I'm not the only one being annoying here. In any case, it's not worth a useless argue for so little. You felt attacked? Sorry for you, that wasn't my goal. --TwoWings * to talk or not to talk... 21:42, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
- @TwoWings: Do you really want to start tone policing when you began this conversation with the tremendously rude and inappropriate "Please think a little"? Rather than make this personality-based, I've tried to ask you repeatedly if you have a policy or guideline that's relevant and you've consistently failed to provide one. You then proceed to say that I'm just editing based on my preferences (which is what you are doing) and making allegations about how my attitude is inappropriate (when yours is). —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:04, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
- Come on, you're overreacting and overinterpreting. "Please think a little" is not offensive, it only means "Please think a little" (surprisingly). Since you reverted twice without any effort of discussion, it looked like you hadn't think enough and that you needed some explanation. That's what I did. Being upset only shows that your brain is unconsciously aware of it (and that shows that you understood the way it should be). But yes, I have been less nice afterwards, but it's only due to your upset attitude in your answer to my explanation, and it is becoming more and more childish now. You take it personally while it shouldn't be an ego problem. You were defending an illogical categorization (as illogical as categorizing a country in categories of all its citizens) but you just don't seem able to accept that you were wrong and you prefer to attack me (with some bad faith and appeal to motive). So please stop being so proud, it's sometimes good to step back and realize your own mistakes. Yes, I'm starting to be really frank and direct, and you may not like it, but I've had enough of your excessive upset attitude. And I also have enough of this useless "discussion" that leads nowhere. I have other better things to do than losing my time with that, so these are my last words. Good luck with your ego if you're still unable to step back. --TwoWings * to talk or not to talk... 08:24, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
- @TwoWings: Hey, I've got this crazy idea--juts so crazy that it might work--do you know of any guidelines or policies that are relevant to your actions on this category? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:31, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
- Hey, I've got this crazy idea: do you know what's called 'logic'? And would you be able to realize that's not my ideas because of the amount of cast categories created by many people? I don't know about specific guidelines, but guidelines are not the only way to contribute logically or to respect main guidelines about categories! Oh, and what about getting over it? I also suppose you don't know what mea culpa means since you seem unable to step back from your own attitude. --TwoWings * to talk or not to talk... 09:12, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
- @TwoWings: So I'll take the fact that you cannot answer a simple yes or no question about your own motivation as a "no". Please step back from your own attitude. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 09:18, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
- You've got all the explanations, so now you're starting to be a troll. So yeah, be proud, you're the best. And get a life. Bye. --TwoWings * to talk or not to talk... 09:24, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
- @TwoWings: I know the answer to my question but not because you answered it. And if you came away from this thinking that I was a troll with no life, I suggest you re-read it. On an unrelated note, please stop abusing the
smalltag. Au revoir. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 09:34, 28 June 2020 (UTC)- Abusing the mall tag? Whatever... Glad to see that you're finally getting over it (even if you still look like someone who thinks he's got nothing to reproach to himself). Let's move on... --TwoWings * to talk or not to talk... 10:07, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
- @TwoWings: Yes, let's move on and actually answer simple questions in the future and not abuse the semantics of HTML (including the small tag). —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 11:32, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
- I see what you're doing. You were not able to assume your mistakes and you want to give me lessons about something else. Anyway... --TwoWings * to talk or not to talk... 22:12, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
- @TwoWings: I don't think that I did make a mistake: I think that you just didn't like something and that is frankly irrelevant to me. You 100% have made several mistakes on this category and this category talk page. Maybe you should step back from your attitude. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:14, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
- Alright, so you're the best, you make no mistake, you're excellent. I don't even understand why you didn't revert me a third time if you have been right all along, then... What a catastrophic ego... It's sad to see that. Please stop pinging me. I'm done with you, there's no hope. --TwoWings * to talk or not to talk... 07:03, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
- @TwoWings: Because some of us are here to collaborate with others and don't escalate everything to black-and-white extremes or make disputes personality-based. Not all of us, but some of us. Feel free to stop responding like you said you would a long time ago, unless your ego won't let you. :/ —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 10:14, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
- I asked you not to ping me anymore. You're a real pain and you definitely act like a troll here. I don't know elsewhere, but here yes. I won't continue to answer, it would be far more constructive to try to speak to a stone. It's the silliest discussion I've ever had on Wikimedia since I contribute. --TwoWings * to talk or not to talk... 16:49, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
- What is your point with this bad faith, waste of time discussion? What are you trying to accomplish? See also Special:Mute. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 21:22, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
- I asked you not to ping me anymore. You're a real pain and you definitely act like a troll here. I don't know elsewhere, but here yes. I won't continue to answer, it would be far more constructive to try to speak to a stone. It's the silliest discussion I've ever had on Wikimedia since I contribute. --TwoWings * to talk or not to talk... 16:49, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
- @TwoWings: Because some of us are here to collaborate with others and don't escalate everything to black-and-white extremes or make disputes personality-based. Not all of us, but some of us. Feel free to stop responding like you said you would a long time ago, unless your ego won't let you. :/ —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 10:14, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
- Alright, so you're the best, you make no mistake, you're excellent. I don't even understand why you didn't revert me a third time if you have been right all along, then... What a catastrophic ego... It's sad to see that. Please stop pinging me. I'm done with you, there's no hope. --TwoWings * to talk or not to talk... 07:03, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
- @TwoWings: I don't think that I did make a mistake: I think that you just didn't like something and that is frankly irrelevant to me. You 100% have made several mistakes on this category and this category talk page. Maybe you should step back from your attitude. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:14, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
- I see what you're doing. You were not able to assume your mistakes and you want to give me lessons about something else. Anyway... --TwoWings * to talk or not to talk... 22:12, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
- @TwoWings: Yes, let's move on and actually answer simple questions in the future and not abuse the semantics of HTML (including the small tag). —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 11:32, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
- Abusing the mall tag? Whatever... Glad to see that you're finally getting over it (even if you still look like someone who thinks he's got nothing to reproach to himself). Let's move on... --TwoWings * to talk or not to talk... 10:07, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
- @TwoWings: I know the answer to my question but not because you answered it. And if you came away from this thinking that I was a troll with no life, I suggest you re-read it. On an unrelated note, please stop abusing the
- You've got all the explanations, so now you're starting to be a troll. So yeah, be proud, you're the best. And get a life. Bye. --TwoWings * to talk or not to talk... 09:24, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
- @TwoWings: So I'll take the fact that you cannot answer a simple yes or no question about your own motivation as a "no". Please step back from your own attitude. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 09:18, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
- Hey, I've got this crazy idea: do you know what's called 'logic'? And would you be able to realize that's not my ideas because of the amount of cast categories created by many people? I don't know about specific guidelines, but guidelines are not the only way to contribute logically or to respect main guidelines about categories! Oh, and what about getting over it? I also suppose you don't know what mea culpa means since you seem unable to step back from your own attitude. --TwoWings * to talk or not to talk... 09:12, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
- @TwoWings: Hey, I've got this crazy idea--juts so crazy that it might work--do you know of any guidelines or policies that are relevant to your actions on this category? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:31, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
- Come on, you're overreacting and overinterpreting. "Please think a little" is not offensive, it only means "Please think a little" (surprisingly). Since you reverted twice without any effort of discussion, it looked like you hadn't think enough and that you needed some explanation. That's what I did. Being upset only shows that your brain is unconsciously aware of it (and that shows that you understood the way it should be). But yes, I have been less nice afterwards, but it's only due to your upset attitude in your answer to my explanation, and it is becoming more and more childish now. You take it personally while it shouldn't be an ego problem. You were defending an illogical categorization (as illogical as categorizing a country in categories of all its citizens) but you just don't seem able to accept that you were wrong and you prefer to attack me (with some bad faith and appeal to motive). So please stop being so proud, it's sometimes good to step back and realize your own mistakes. Yes, I'm starting to be really frank and direct, and you may not like it, but I've had enough of your excessive upset attitude. And I also have enough of this useless "discussion" that leads nowhere. I have other better things to do than losing my time with that, so these are my last words. Good luck with your ego if you're still unable to step back. --TwoWings * to talk or not to talk... 08:24, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
- @TwoWings: Do you really want to start tone policing when you began this conversation with the tremendously rude and inappropriate "Please think a little"? Rather than make this personality-based, I've tried to ask you repeatedly if you have a policy or guideline that's relevant and you've consistently failed to provide one. You then proceed to say that I'm just editing based on my preferences (which is what you are doing) and making allegations about how my attitude is inappropriate (when yours is). —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:04, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
- Whatever... Keep upset, that's better than saying "alright, I got it, thanks for the explanation, I didn't know and I shouldn't have insisted". Either you stop being upset for nothing or you understand that I'm not the only one being annoying here. In any case, it's not worth a useless argue for so little. You felt attacked? Sorry for you, that wasn't my goal. --TwoWings * to talk or not to talk... 21:42, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
- @TwoWings: So you never had a policy or guideline that's germane? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:45, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
- Alright. Don't try to realize how irritating was your double revert without any discussion effort. It's so easy to play the upset guy when you're wrong. --TwoWings * to talk or not to talk... 19:33, 26 June 2020 (UTC)