Commons:Deletion requests/File:Gents- Toilet -SignboardinHindi.jpg
File:Gents- Toilet -SignboardinHindi.jpg[edit]
Out of scope. Ices2Csharp (talk) 10:04, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
Keep Commons has Category:Toilet_signs in other languages. I will agree to the deletion of this file if the deletion other such files is also endorsed or a consensus is arrived at.Hindustanilanguage (talk)
- This isn't even a picture, this is just two words, in a JPG-file, made with e.g. MS Paint. This file is just useless. If I find an out of scope file, I do not need to start a hunt for any comparable file. I'm also not the only one who noticed that this file is out of scope. Ices2Csharp (talk) 16:14, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
- You're not the only one on Commons (statement:If I find an out of scope file, I do not need to start a hunt for any comparable file)- exemplified by the example you've cited yourself. I've uploaded a new image for the file and I hope this should settle the issue. Best wishes, Hindustanilanguage (talk) 05:37, 6 April 2012 (UTC).
- I reverted to first version. Please don't confuse deletion nominations by overwriting with completely different files. The new file seems also the result of photoshopping instead of being a real picture. Ices2Csharp (talk) 14:28, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
- Points to be considered:
- Points to be considered:
- I reverted to first version. Please don't confuse deletion nominations by overwriting with completely different files. The new file seems also the result of photoshopping instead of being a real picture. Ices2Csharp (talk) 14:28, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
- You're not the only one on Commons (statement:If I find an out of scope file, I do not need to start a hunt for any comparable file)- exemplified by the example you've cited yourself. I've uploaded a new image for the file and I hope this should settle the issue. Best wishes, Hindustanilanguage (talk) 05:37, 6 April 2012 (UTC).
- This isn't even a picture, this is just two words, in a JPG-file, made with e.g. MS Paint. This file is just useless. If I find an out of scope file, I do not need to start a hunt for any comparable file. I'm also not the only one who noticed that this file is out of scope. Ices2Csharp (talk) 16:14, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
-Is there not a need for a signboard in Hindi?
-My recent uploads should not be misread as "just two words, in a JPG-file, made with e.g. MS Paint" as stated above. It is full-fledged signboard.
-This can form part of an article, or can be referenced outside Wikiworld or simply the text can be copied and taken for a signboard.
-Take the case of File:Vehicle Insurance Certificate in India.pdf - This file was marked for deletion because of personal copyright violation (name of an individual being included in the certificate), I removed the name,address, phone number, etc and reuploaded another while the DR was still pending. The file was then 'kept'.
-I would not like to enter into editwarring with Ices but I request the admins to consider retaining the second upload.Hindustanilanguage (talk) 05:24, 7 April 2012 (UTC).
- You may consider uploading the new file under a new name, although I don't think the new file is in scope either, but overwriting the old file is a bad idea. Ices2Csharp (talk) 11:36, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
Kept: The fact it uses words instead of symbols doesn't mean per se it's out of scope SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 10:02, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
Per previous DR. It's not my habit to repeat a DR, this is actually the first time. I believe this closure is a clear mistake. I request second opinion by another admin. Ices2Csharp (talk) 14:11, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
- Please note that the closure was actually too early, closer didn't give it 7 days, thus ignoring the normal procedure. Ices2Csharp (talk) 14:13, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
- 7 day time is no religiously binding rule. In the above DR discussion, I cited the example of a DR started in Nov'11 & closed in Mar'12 (5 months). PD Text issue clearly undisputed. Hindustanilanguage (talk) 16:36, 8 April 2012 (UTC).
- This is not a 'PD-text' issue, this is a scope issue. I did not nominate for copyright reasons. There was no justification to close this DR too early and the closure didn't address the arguments in the DR. Ices2Csharp (talk) 16:52, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
- 7 day time is no religiously binding rule. In the above DR discussion, I cited the example of a DR started in Nov'11 & closed in Mar'12 (5 months). PD Text issue clearly undisputed. Hindustanilanguage (talk) 16:36, 8 April 2012 (UTC).
- Nearly all uploads of Heyhello1234567 such as File:IconEliminate.gif and File:IconImmune.gif were wrongly claimed as his original works. Yet they were restored as PD Text post DR and post deletion.One of the Commons admins was skeptical about restoring File:IconEliminate.gif because of the "scope" issue, yet it was restored speedily by an undeletion request. Hindustanilanguage (talk) 05:22, 9 April 2012 (UTC).
- Please stop distracting attention away from the real problem. We are not talking about copyright, we are talking about a file being *completely* useless. Ices2Csharp (talk) 13:58, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
- Nearly all uploads of Heyhello1234567 such as File:IconEliminate.gif and File:IconImmune.gif were wrongly claimed as his original works. Yet they were restored as PD Text post DR and post deletion.One of the Commons admins was skeptical about restoring File:IconEliminate.gif because of the "scope" issue, yet it was restored speedily by an undeletion request. Hindustanilanguage (talk) 05:22, 9 April 2012 (UTC).
- Admins may kindly make a note of highly arrogant and aggressive nature of messages posted by this user:
- Admins may kindly make a note of highly arrogant and aggressive nature of messages posted by this user:
- "If I find an out of scope file, I do not need to start a hunt for any comparable file" (- implying (s)he is the only one on commons, as stated above).
- (S)He reverted my reupload and doesn't want to look at all into my argument or example.
- (S)He renominated the file for deletion when an admin closed the discussion. Is (s)he looking for a rift or clash of admins?
- I explained cases where delays and early closures are possible on commons, but this does not satisfy him/her.
- I explained PD Text aspect - but (s)he just likes to dismiss this issue as well.
- I am explain a precedent pertaining to a user uploads and this again does not pacify deletion requester.In fact, no correlation or inferences are supposed to be drawn.
- He unilaterally terms my uploads to be *completely* useless even though I am the person who uploaded maximum number of autographs on Commons.
- Is anybody empowered to use words such as *completely* useless on Commons. Hindustanilanguage (talk) 08:45, 10 April 2012 (UTC).
- Renominations are not uncommon. Like users can use COM:UDR if they think a file should not have been deleted, users can also use a new DR if they think a file should not have been kept. There is nothing arrogant or aggressive in asking a second opinion. Ices2Csharp (talk) 10:11, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
- Is anybody empowered to use words such as *completely* useless on Commons. Hindustanilanguage (talk) 08:45, 10 April 2012 (UTC).
Delete This is not a sign like the other images, this is an Photoshop/MS Paint text box that adds no pictorial value of a sign to any articles and is therefore out of scope. —SpacemanSpiff 18:19, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
- Keep Although the nominator may say that this is not a copyright issue, I wouldn't hesitate to state that the file is a Textlogo. Whatever the language a sign uses, if there are not complex graphic symbols within, it should be considered as not ineligible for copyright. This is mostly common in signage system, where no authorship can be claimed for symbols (as pictograms) or typography that are part of a universal code. Fma12 (talk) 19:18, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
- If you are so aware that nobody sees copyright problems, why do you post this comment? It doesn't add anything usefull to the debate. Ices2Csharp (talk) 20:12, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
- Has this re-nomination added some useful to the debate? I also wonder.... Fma12 (talk) 22:26, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
- If you are so aware that nobody sees copyright problems, why do you post this comment? It doesn't add anything usefull to the debate. Ices2Csharp (talk) 20:12, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
- Ices, I think that when one admin has given the judgment "kept", the matter is closed. Ices, I s'pose you should upload a few files, update the no. of filemoves as a filemover (now dismally low @ 69) before actively indulging in DRs and DR debates. After all, I would have saluted you or your friend Spiff, if you had uploaded a single worthwhile (or even worthless) pic on Commons, which you never ever thought of in your stint at the Commons. Unfortunately, you want to show to others that their face is terribly wrong when you don't have anything to offer straightaway from your very own side. Further, you were also blocked on Commons for massively terming Commons images as "out of Scope", which were actually not. Hindustanilanguage (talk) 12:12, 22 April 2012 (UTC).
Deleted. This is a simple, low resolution computer rendering of Hindi text which could be reproduced in formatted text easily, which would greatly increase its accessibility, editability, and print quality. It is also unused and has no apparent educational use (the uploader did not describe any plausible such use, I find the "copied and taken for a signboard" use quite absurd given the low resolution). The uploader is admonished to avoid aggressively attacking the nominator and focus on issues of policy. Dcoetzee (talk) 22:40, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
