Commons:Closed most valued reviews/2019/04

Los Dragos Gemelos (Dracaena draco), Breña Alta, La Palma

View opposition Nominated by: Llez (talk) on 2014-01-01 09:01 (UTC) Scope: Los Dragos Gemelos (Dracaena draco), Breña Alta, La Palma Reason: "Los Dragos Gemelos" are the oldest and most famous dragon trees of the Island of La Palma (For more informations see image caption). Therefore it is strange that there exists no other picture of these trees on Commons. -- Llez (talk)  Comment We should see the binomial name in the scope and caption. There seems to be Dracaena draco. --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 10:44, 1 January 2014 (UTC)  Done You are right --Llez (talk) 12:16, 1 January 2014 (UTC)  Support Useful --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 17:36, 1 January 2014 (UTC) Result: 1 support, 0 oppose => promoted. Halavar (talk) 14:58, 5 January 2014 (UTC)  Oppose in favor of the other nominee, which is superior. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:04, 13 April 2019 (UTC)  Oppose The other is brighter and more visible. --BoothSift 05:57, 13 April 2019 (UTC) Scores: 1. Los Dragos Gemelos - Breña Alta.JPG: -2 (current VI within same scope) <-- 2. Los Dragos Gemelos - Breña Alta - La Palma 01.jpg: +2 => File:Los Dragos Gemelos - Breña Alta.JPG: Declined and demoted to VI-former. <-- File:Los Dragos Gemelos - Breña Alta - La Palma 01.jpg: Promoted. --BoothSift 01:44, 23 April 2019 (UTC) Voting is closed. Await automatic removal by VICBot2 at 00:18 (UTC)	View promotion Nominated by: Llez (talk) on 2019-04-13 01:35 (UTC) Scope: Los Dragos Gemelos (Dracaena draco), Breña Alta, La Palma Reason: Recently I had the chance to take a picture of better quality and higher resolution than the previous of 2013. -- Llez (talk)  Support - Also taken in much better light, which makes it better as a VI, in my opinion. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:03, 13 April 2019 (UTC)  Support Yes, the other one is too dark. --BoothSift 05:57, 13 April 2019 (UTC) Scores: 1. Los Dragos Gemelos - Breña Alta.JPG: (current VI within same scope) -2 2. Los Dragos Gemelos - Breña Alta - La Palma 01.jpg: +2 <-- => File:Los Dragos Gemelos - Breña Alta.JPG: Declined and demoted to VI-former. File:Los Dragos Gemelos - Breña Alta - La Palma 01.jpg: Promoted. <-- --BoothSift 01:46, 23 April 2019 (UTC) Voting is closed. Await automatic removal by VICBot2 at 00:18 (UTC)

Henry David Thoreau

View opposition Nominated by: Yann (talk) on 2019-03-28 18:58 (UTC) Scope: Henry David Thoreau, portrait photograph Reason: high resolution and quality portrait of a famous writer, completely restored -- Yann (talk)  Support Useful and used.I  Oppose this in favor of the other ones. --BoothSift 23:49, 28 March 2019 (UTC)  Oppose - Not as good as the original, per the discussion at COM:FPC. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:45, 29 March 2019 (UTC) @Ikan Kekek: What artistic value is given to the original, this is clearly the best version to illustrate Wikipedia and other projects. Regards, Yann (talk) 20:46, 31 March 2019 (UTC)  Comment - Actually, you have to withdraw this nomination, since File:Benjamin D. Maxham - Henry David Thoreau - Restored.jpg is already a VI. I think it's better, anyway. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:37, 1 April 2019 (UTC)  Done As the tool to find VI is broken, I didn't see that one. Regards, Yann (talk) 12:08, 1 April 2019 (UTC) Completely understood. I  Oppose this one in favor of the other one. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:26, 2 April 2019 (UTC)  Comment If I had to do it, I would have chosen the same options. The original continues to exist and the restoration is an alternative, there is no problem if we add to the scope the word restored. --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 05:29, 7 April 2019 (UTC) Scores: 1. Benjamin D. Maxham - Henry David Thoreau - Restored - greyscale - straightened.jpg: -3 2. Benjamin D. Maxham - Henry David Thoreau - Restored.jpg: (current VI within same scope) <-- 3. Benjamin D. Maxham - Henry David Thoreau - Restored - sepia - straightened.jpg: -1 => File:Benjamin D. Maxham - Henry David Thoreau - Restored - greyscale - straightened.jpg: Declined. File:Benjamin D. Maxham - Henry David Thoreau - Restored.jpg: Former VI, no change. <-- File:Benjamin D. Maxham - Henry David Thoreau - Restored - sepia - straightened.jpg: Declined. --Yann (talk) 09:50, 22 April 2019 (UTC) Voting is closed. Await automatic removal by VICBot2 at 00:18 (UTC)	View promotion Nominated by: Scewing (talk) on 2013-03-02 17:52 (UTC) Scope: Photographs of Thoreau Used in: en:Henry David Thoreau, en:Pacifism, en:Tax Resistance, en:Conscience, fr:Henry David Thoreau etc. Reason: Henry David Thoreau only sat for his photograph twice, and this restored image is from his earliest sitting. When an admirer wrote to Thoreau from Michigan in 1856 asking for Thoreau's daguerreotype and enclosing money to defray its cost, the author reluctantly obliged. A visit to Maxham's Daguerrean Palace yielded this 50-cent portrait, which Thoreau dutifully sent to the requestor along with $1.70 in change. -- Scewing (talk)  Support it is useful to link the scope to the category. Very useful --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 19:05, 2 March 2013 (UTC)  Support best because of resolution. Nice and interesting story too. I've linked the "used in".--Jebulon (talk) 20:07, 2 March 2013 (UTC)  Support for being one of the two existing photos and for illustrating the related story. --Dvdgmz (talk) 08:56, 6 March 2013 (UTC) Result: 3 support, 0 oppose => promoted. Godot13 (talk) 00:33, 9 March 2013 (UTC)  Oppose Now we have the same image, but with a complete restoration: File:Benjamin D. Maxham - Henry David Thoreau - Restored - greyscale - straightened.jpg. @Scewing, Archaeodontosaurus, Jebulon, and Dvdgmz: Regards, Yann (talk) 12:12, 1 April 2019 (UTC)  Support - On the contrary, this one looks better to me. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:26, 2 April 2019 (UTC) Scores: 1. Benjamin D. Maxham - Henry David Thoreau - Restored - greyscale - straightened.jpg: -3 2. Benjamin D. Maxham - Henry David Thoreau - Restored.jpg: (current VI within same scope) <-- 3. Benjamin D. Maxham - Henry David Thoreau - Restored - sepia - straightened.jpg: -1 => File:Benjamin D. Maxham - Henry David Thoreau - Restored - greyscale - straightened.jpg: Declined. File:Benjamin D. Maxham - Henry David Thoreau - Restored.jpg: Former VI, no change. <-- File:Benjamin D. Maxham - Henry David Thoreau - Restored - sepia - straightened.jpg: Declined. --Yann (talk) 09:51, 22 April 2019 (UTC) Voting is closed. Await automatic removal by VICBot2 at 00:18 (UTC)
View opposition Nominated by: Yann (talk) on 2019-04-02 10:33 (UTC) Scope: Henry David Thoreau, portrait photograph @Ikan Kekek: Here is another alternative. Yann (talk) 10:35, 2 April 2019 (UTC) Thanks.  Oppose - The white balance of the jacket has an orange shift in this one. Also, the two alternatives to the current VI both improperly change the subject's orientation as shown in the original, because someone thinks it's good for subjects to always be in conventional, symmetrical poses. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:34, 2 April 2019 (UTC) I think your vote (and of some others) are not quite consistent. In the FP nomination, the grayscale image was said that it lacks the yellow tone of the original. So now, this one is too yellow?... BTW, I checked on 2 different monitors, and the jacket is not orange or yellow for me. However, in the version you supports, the face and the shirt look yellowish to me. Regards, Yann (talk) 19:50, 2 April 2019 (UTC) That's because the entire photo is sepia-toned. Though perhaps I'm missing something. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:26, 2 April 2019 (UTCthe ) In this one, the colors are harmonious. In File:Benjamin D. Maxham - Henry David Thoreau - Restored.jpg, the jacket is darker, but everything else is yellowish. And it needs a complete restoration, which is done here. Regards, Yann (talk) 22:04, 2 April 2019 (UTC) But his pose is altered. Why is that OK? -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:07, 3 April 2019 (UTC) The original is tilted. Regards, Yann (talk) 09:07, 3 April 2019 (UTC) If a historic picture is tilted, I don't think it's acceptable to "correct" that as part of a restoration. I have to believe the tilt was intentional. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:22, 3 April 2019 (UTC) IMO, this is pure speculation. If it were a picture of a building, a tilted picture wouldn't be accepted. Why in this case? Regards, Yann (talk) 10:32, 3 April 2019 (UTC) You wouldn't accept a tilt of a building in a 19th-century photo? I would. I feel like what you're doing is akin to deciding Beethoven couldn't have meant to use a particular dissonance. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:06, 3 April 2019 (UTC) @Ikan Kekek: I am not talking about the architect's work, but about the reproduction. Regards, Yann (talk) 17:46, 5 April 2019 (UTC) I'm saying that if a historic photo is tilted, we can't assume that's unintentional. If the problem is that the reproduction of the photo is poor, that's something else. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 18:42, 5 April 2019 (UTC) Scores: 1. Benjamin D. Maxham - Henry David Thoreau - Restored - greyscale - straightened.jpg: -3 2. Benjamin D. Maxham - Henry David Thoreau - Restored.jpg: (current VI within same scope) <-- 3. Benjamin D. Maxham - Henry David Thoreau - Restored - sepia - straightened.jpg: -1 => File:Benjamin D. Maxham - Henry David Thoreau - Restored - greyscale - straightened.jpg: Declined. File:Benjamin D. Maxham - Henry David Thoreau - Restored.jpg: Former VI, no change. <-- File:Benjamin D. Maxham - Henry David Thoreau - Restored - sepia - straightened.jpg: Declined. --Yann (talk) 09:52, 22 April 2019 (UTC) Voting is closed. Await automatic removal by VICBot2 at 00:18 (UTC)