File talk:English language.svg

  --FML ^hello 05:14, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

For some reason, I find this somewhat offensive... Why exactly is the US flag first and the British one second? English originated in England, not America...though putting the them the overway round does make the US flag look a little...well, bland. What with it just being stripes and all. I'll shut up now. 86.140.232.121 19:44, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

I think that's probably the reason. It might be better to split them along a northwest-to-southeast diagonal, if you want to avoid an appearance of favoritism... AnonMoos (talk) 01:58, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

What does the American flag have to do with English anyway? It should either be just the Union Flag (or just St. George's flag) or the flags of all the countries that use English as the main language. --Tango (talk) 02:59, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

As a practical matter, the UK and the US together contain the great majority of the native English speakers in the world. To put it another way, the UK and the US are the two predominantly English-speaking nations with seats on the UN security council. The St. George's cross might be better in the abstract, but it doesn't have the wide international recognizability of either the US flag or the UK flag. To see another idea, go to File:Flag-for-English.png... AnonMoos (talk) 15:25, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

I disagree with the statement the argument of the predominantly English-speaking nations, numerous other nations including Australia, Canada, Ireland, New Zeland, and many others do speak English. The flags of the US and UK are obvious nationalistic flags displayed for national pride and as such this flag makes it offensive for other English speaking nationaliies. Considering the origin of English, I would prefer simply a flag of England (not UK), or a variation of it. To me this would be more representative of the English language. For those American that cannot understand this view, how about using the Commonwealth flag, after all every major English speaking nations except US are members of it... A true representation for the language must be inclusive and not exclusive, I do not support the Commonwealth flag nor do I support this flag to represent the English speaking world. I favour the flag of England (St. George's flag), preferably with a distinctive variant. --Marc Moisan, 15:45, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

The flag of England would be a better symbol considered in the abstract, but when designing a web-icon for the English language which ideally would be instantly recognizable to a diverse international audience, even when displayed at a small size, it's hard to ignore the fact that outside the UK, both the UK flag and the U.S. flag are much better known than the flag of England. As for the Commonwealth flag, it's also not very widely known, and would not display well at a small size (where it would be reduced to a blue rectangle with a few small indeterminate blobs of yellow); in any case, hundreds of millions of inhabitants of Commonwealth countries do not speak English. AnonMoos (talk) 00:41, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

I think an entirely new flag needs to be invented to represent the English language, preferably one with "English" written across it. Personally, I find the use of these flags rather offensive as neither represent my country. I would strongly oppose the use of the St.George flag. That would only annoy me further, given that it sort of puts England above all other English speaking countries. At least the British flag incorporates Scotland and Wales as well.

How about (arbitrarily) a red background with "English" written in blue across the center? -- 14:23, 30 August 2010 109.78.230.17

That would violate the heraldic "tincture" rule, and in any case the main purpose of such language icons is to provide an easily-recognized symbolic image which would supplement (HTML) text... AnonMoos (talk) 23:13, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Why not simply use the File:Flag_of_the_Commonwealth_of_Nations.svg ? Popolon (talk) 23:03, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

See comment of "00:41, 21 February 2010" directly above; also, the nation with the largest number of native English speakers does not belong to the Commonwealth... AnonMoos (talk) 03:05, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Bug in the 2nd image version

The red diagonal Junion Jack bar going to the upper right corner is missing now. Was that intentional? --RokerHRO (talk) 09:58, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Good question... AnonMoos (talk) 22:07, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

New Deletion Request Because This Breaks U.S. federal law.

I believe this file breaks the United States Flag Code that establishes advisory rules for display and care of the flag of the United States. It is Chapter 1 of Title 4 of the United States Code (4 U.S.C. § 1 et seq). This is a U.S. federal law. I think it should be speedy deleted. I am not sure how to put it up for deletion or I would myself. Theworm777 (talk) 07:36, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Canadian maple leaf

The addition of a maple leaf to this image in order to include Canada within the representation doesn't make sense. If looking at total population, it would make more sense to include India or Nigeria. By percentage, Australia still outpaces Canada in terms of English speaking population. To those who want a version with a maple leaf: upload it as a new image! Stop uploading your image on top of this widely used one. --auburnpilot talk 01:16, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

As this page is the subject of a slow edit war I've upload protected the file for a year. I see one user repeatedly adding the Maple Leaf against consensus, but I do not see a justification for action against that user (and any sanction is likely to be ineffectual). Hopefully no further edit warring will result in 2013 when the protection expires(!)--Nilfanion (talk) 21:05, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

What about create a new SVG English language in more prominent countries.svg with the maple leaf? --Dereckson (talk) 17:06, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

There's no issue with creating another file with the maple leaf, in fact if this had been done in the first place there would have been no edit war. What's unacceptable is edit warring over the content of this one file. If projects prefer to use the version with the Maple leaf, that's their choice, likewise they should be able to choose have the non-leaf version.--Nilfanion (talk) 21:31, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

The original author intent were to create a flag with UK and US.

Then, as this image were used on several Wikimedia projects, someone wanted to edit it to reflect more the English language area.

But as Commons doesn't exist to editorialize other projects, this were the wrong way to do.

I've so redone the things according Commons best practices and have created File:English language - United States, Canada and the United Kingdom.svg. --Dereckson (talk) 08:16, 9 August 2012 (UTC)