User talk:Egil

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Hi Egil, if you can't add the license and the source to your coat of arms, we have to delete it. Category:Unknown -- Breezie 08:18, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The legal state and the source of each and every image was stated quite clearly through Template:Norwegian coat of arms. But User:Twthmoses deleted all references to this template, saying he didn't believe it, without any further explanation nor investigation. There is really nothing more I can do, and as I've written on Category:Norwegian coats of arms I'm quite tired of the situation here on the commons. Luckily, the state of education on the various Wikipedia I work on is much better than here, and I will cooperate with the various Wikipedias that uses these coats of arms to put the images there. -- Egil 08:37, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Egil, try to distinguish between two things that have absolutely nothing to do with each other. Every single COA ever made in all history of Norway may be PD, however does not change the fact that somebody made the very image on which the CoA is displayed. Somebody sat down painted it computerized it, made it out of a magical pot or whatever. HE has to be asked, HE has to provide HIS terms for the image use.
Say CNN have taken an image of a Norwegian CoA and copyrighted it harshly. Then I can’t upload it here, regardless that the CoA may be free, since the image on which it is on, is not. You still have to ask the creator of that very file about HIS terms how it may be used. It is HIS creation – and that is fully independent that it is actually legal to display the CoA in the first place. It is HIS work and it happens to include something that is free to use.
The images for the Norwegian CoA’s has a source on them (and as said I mailed the source on info on that), but is not tagged for how it may be used here! And that is what matters. Remember this is a "free"-source place. People have to be able to use these images under some form of free condition. If you can supply the creators name and statement that they are free, then there is no problem. Twthmoses 09:22, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Let us find a solution[edit]

I have just been made aware of the problem with Twthmoses and I am trying to read all about it in order to help you resolve this issue. Please give me a little time to try and get all information on the subject. notafish }<';> 09:14, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Let us talk here about this. notafish }<';> 09:36, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)
My mistake. And my answer here. notafish }<';> 10:02, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Apologies accepted. Things are being restored back to the state you had them by User:Breeze. I understand Twthmoses' concern about the copyright not being clear, maybe we can find together a better way of expressing it? "Copyright does not apply" can be a little misleading for the common people (myself included ;) ). We should try and be a little more educative here and explain exactly what that means. How about something like:
This official Norwegian coat of arms is ineligible for copyright (you cannot appose your own copyright on it if you reproduce it). Its usage is restricted according to Norwegian penal law (can you here maybe explain a bit?). Other countries may or may not have similar restrictions. Usage for purposes of documentation, such as in an encyclopedia, is allowed. Important:This coat of arms is not Public Domain.

Cheers notafish }<';> 13:15, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The penal law applies on Norwegian soil, and I would believe also to Norwegian citizens in some other contexts. It is an old law, which says that you are not allowed to use the arms without authority. Its practical application is typically lawyer stuff. What is clear is that you according to this law cannot use the official arms in a manner where you or the content you are provide could be understood as representing the official authority in any form. On the other hand, it is also clear that you totally freely (without asking anyones permission) can use the arms for purposes of information, like in an encyclopedia. -- Egil 13:29, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

coat of arms Norway reverted[edit]

Hi Egil, I set Category:Coats of arms of Norwegian municipalities and {{Norwegian coat of arms}} into the coat of arms. Please look at the rest in Category:Unknown (it's not from you, but I hope you can add some informations and the tag). Have a nice week -- Breezie 15:12, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Image:Sund komm.png[edit]

Egil, denna bild saknar fortfarande licens. Den har anmälts till Commons:Deletion requests så du bör lägga till licens så fort som möjligt. Thuresson 10:59, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, my mistake. I added the tag. -- Breezie 16:55, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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slady 10:54, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

More coats of arms[edit]

Hei! Vi burde også ha kommunevåpna fra Rolvsøy [1], Kråkerøy [2], Borge [3], Vindafjords gamle [4], Varteig [5], Tromøy (kinda bad quality, [6]) Skjeberg [7], Tune [8], Ramnes [9], Våle [10]. Er det greit for deg å laste opp disse? Punkmorten 16:34, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

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Coats of arms: More detailed pics for vector images[edit]

Hi Egil

I am currently converting some png images of Norwegian coats of arms to vector images for alternative use. I have already begun with some; if you want you can take a look here: User:Knowledgeisfree

Now there are some more detailed coats as that of Eide, Giske and Smøla and I want to make them as precise as possible. My simple (and maybe stupid question): Do you possess pictures with a higher resolution or do you have access to such pictures (since I didn't find any on the web)? Thanks for your help! --knowledgeisfree 16:25, 31 March 2008 (UTC)


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GijsvdL 09:46, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Kommunevåpenet for Farsund[edit]

Kommunevåpenet for Farsund http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilde:Farsund_komm.png har helt feil farger. Den ser direkte "vissen ut". Se på komunevåpenet slik Farsund kommune selv presenterer det. (http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilde:Farsund_komm.png) Jeg vil tro at kommunen vil gi deg en bedre kopi enn den som er publisert nå hvis du kontakter dem.


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Lokal_Profil 10:04, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

You have posted a threat that you will delete a file I uploaded in 2005 on http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Egil&redirect=no under the title "Copyright status: File:Finnmark_vapen.png". You accusations and claims in that treath are absolutely not correct, as can be verified by simply studying http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Finnmark_vapen.png

I am not sure if a real person posted this threat, or a robot. If if was a robot, then I suggest you fix it asap. If it was a real person, then I don't know what to say. If it gives you personal pleasure to delete files that others spent time finding and organizing, then go ahead. See if I care. -- Egil (talk)

Chill. The message was put here because at the time the image didn't have a valid license ({{Coat of Arms}} isn't a license template). Since then the situation was resolved and the image tagged with {{Norwegian coat of arms}} and thus the image was no longer under threat of being deleted. /Lokal_Profil 17:45, 6 August 2010 (UTC)