User talk:Egil

Hi Egil, if you can't add the license and the source to your coat of arms, we have to delete it. Category:Unknown -- Breezie 08:18, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The legal state and the source of each and every image was stated quite clearly through Template:Norwegian coat of arms. But User:Twthmoses deleted all references to this template, saying he didn't believe it, without any further explanation nor investigation. There is really nothing more I can do, and as I've written on Category:Norwegian coats of arms I'm quite tired of the situation here on the commons. Luckily, the state of education on the various Wikipedia I work on is much better than here, and I will cooperate with the various Wikipedias that uses these coats of arms to put the images there. -- Egil 08:37, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Egil, try to distinguish between two things that have absolutely nothing to do with each other. Every single COA ever made in all history of Norway may be PD, however does not change the fact that somebody made the very image on which the CoA is displayed. Somebody sat down painted it computerized it, made it out of a magical pot or whatever. HE has to be asked, HE has to provide HIS terms for the image use.

Say CNN have taken an image of a Norwegian CoA and copyrighted it harshly. Then I can’t upload it here, regardless that the CoA may be free, since the image on which it is on, is not. You still have to ask the creator of that very file about HIS terms how it may be used. It is HIS creation – and that is fully independent that it is actually legal to display the CoA in the first place. It is HIS work and it happens to include something that is free to use.

The images for the Norwegian CoA’s has a source on them (and as said I mailed the source on info on that), but is not tagged for how it may be used here! And that is what matters. Remember this is a "free"-source place. People have to be able to use these images under some form of free condition. If you can supply the creators name and statement that they are free, then there is no problem. Twthmoses 09:22, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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