User talk:Herbythyme

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The old stuff went here:
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Happy holidays! 2015!

Snowman icon.png * * * Happy Holidays 2015 ! * * *
* Merry Christmas! Happy New Year!
* Joyeux Noël ! Bonne année!
* Frohes Weihnachten! Frohes Neues Jahr!
* Счастливого Рождества! С Новым годом!
-- George Chernilevsky talk 20:15, 24 December 2014 (UTC)  
Many thanks George - very best wishes to you too --Herby talk thyme 13:16, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Hey, are you back? :D Trijnsteltalk 16:58, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
No - why would you think that :D --Herby talk thyme 11:19, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
Actually, I hoped you would come back. After 1,5 year of inactivity from you I still miss your contribs. :) Trijnsteltalk 12:42, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
comeeeeee backkkkk herbyyyyyyyyyy .... :D --Stemoc 01:08, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Now that you have returned.....

Would you care to explain the CU abuse from 26/27 April 2013? The OC tried contacting you but you didn't respond, and I was told you were uncontactable.

I should make it clear that Trijnstel managed to cover the abuse up quite nicely by refusing to even tell me if CU was run. The log action had only to contact you for reason. Seriously, what gave you the right to invade my privacy by abusing the CU tool.

You owe an explanation here. russavia (talk) 15:32, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

I will also state, that you posted this pompous self-serving statement not long after I asked Trijnstel if a CU was run on me, and you fled Commons. Very odd and curious timing, wouldn't you say? I have logs from IRC where Trijnstel said that she knew nothing about why you ran the CU (she clearly was not telling the truth then), and then later said she the knew the reason why but would not be telling anyone. All done to protect you. So would you care to answer the following:

  1. On what basis did you abusively run a CU on my account on 26/27 April 2013?
  2. How was the running of that CU inline with policy?
  3. Why did you not see fit to notify myself or the community about the running of that CU?
  4. Why did you flee Commons like a gutless cowards when I started asking questions?
  5. What makes you think you have any right to participate in this community given the enormous breach of trust that was placed in you? If these questions aren't answered satisfactorily, I will ask that you be indefinitely blocked on this project.

You really should have stayed away from this project entirely. It is not acceptable for you to be uncontactable when your abuse is under investigation, and then think you can waltz back in and not answer for your actions. The OC and WMF Legal will now be contacted again also. russavia (talk) 18:00, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

@Russavia:, I do not know anything about the merits of this case, but you can express yourself without personal attacks. -mattbuck (Talk) 18:53, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
Russavia, let me be clear for once and for all. I ignore you, your edits and your comments to avoid any further drama. I've already said enough. I'm not interested in drama; I've experienced enough last year with 5/6 people who attacked me and I want to start fresh this year. It would be nice if you could leave me alone too then. And let this be a warning. If you contact me ever again, I'll request a block for your account. I don't want anything to do with you anymore. Understood? Trijnsteltalk 19:51, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
Trijnstel your response is not what one would expect from a functionary on our project and is absolutely unacceptable. If you truly want to start afresh in 2015, you could start by stopping your part in the cover-up of Herbythyme's abusive use of tools on this project. I will keep pressing for answers to legitimate questions. I will also work (at some stage) on overhauling the entire CU process here on Commons to make it more transparent to the community.
Therefore, your threats are noted, and duly rejected as an obvious attempt to stifle legitimate criticism of your role in this sordid episode of CU abuse and its coverup. If this makes you uncomfortable, I sincerely suggest that you step down as a CU. russavia (talk) 21:55, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

48 hours have now passed and you have not commented here. I have written to OC and WMF Legal and have asked them to re-open the case due to your sudden re-appearance on this project.

I realise that being caught abusing the tools on this project, and hence invading my privacy, is obviously something that you do not want to face. But your re-appearance has made this necessary. So in order to give you enough time to give a considered response, I will give you another 72 hours to respond. If not, I will take this to COM:AN/U and ask that you be indefinitely blocked/banned on this project. Evidence from the stewards private channel will also be publicly introduced at that time of my CU data being shared with others.

I'm sorry if it comes to that, but this is all your own doing and you need to man up and take responsibility for what you did. russavia (talk) 11:21, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Ombudsman Commission findings

I have now had the conclusions from the Ombudsman Commission in the case reffered to by Russavia and I felt in appropriate to place that here so that the community and those interested can be aware of them.

In their email to me they state "our conclusion is that the Privacy Policy has not been violated". I fully accept their findings.

I feel it worth adding that as I have not used any communication channels other than on wiki posting and email in many years it is quite impossible for me to have been responsible for any mention on those channels.

I trust I will be allowed to continue to make minor contributions to Commons as and when I have the time without any further interference. I will not be online for a week or so anyway. --Herby talk thyme 15:32, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

@Herbythyme: Can you explain to the Commons community, myself included, then, how come that at least some parts of the CheckUser log related to @russavia was leaked to a third party (who, I am told, did not at the time, and does not at the moment, hold CheckUser privileges on this wiki) and what kind of non-public information, if any, was included in that log, and what was your role in that leak? I feel that, in addition to the findings of the Ombudsman Commission, this information is crucial in understanding the whole situation. Please take your time answering these question; there is no rush and I can wait till you get back on-line. Thank you for your time, odder (talk) 16:19, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
Very very easy answer Odder - no. I have never ever disclosed any CU information to any non CU and indeed I very very rarely disclose anything to even a CU. It is a tools which must be treated with great respect for privacy. If anything has been made public it is not by me I assure you (& the community). --Herby talk thyme 16:25, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, @Herby. I understand that the Ombudsman Commission have been contacted by a non-privileged user with private information related to the CheckUser check on @russavia. Do you have any knowledge relating to that leak? Obviously, there is no need to discuss the matter publicly, so please do feel free to share it with the OC, as I think the community has the right to know which of our CheckUsers leaked such sensitive data to a third party. Thanks again for the speedy answer, and have a good day, odder (talk) 16:32, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
Again (& to Odder and the whole Commons community who trusted me with rights) I have no knowledge at all about this. I would like to state that I kept no records at all of checks I made. The only place I would have possibly posted information would be to the CU list. However, for a variety of reasons, I am as sure as I can be after some two years, that I did not even do that. I certainly have no information about any leaks at all and I would be very unhappy about any such leaks. I'll state it again - this is a tool that should be treated with the greatest respect by anyone privileged to have it. --Herby talk thyme 16:38, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks again, Herby, for your answers — this is very helpful. And thanks for the years of service you provided to this community; I hope to see more of you in the future, and wish you the best of experiences on Commons. Take care, odder (talk) 16:43, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Welcome back

Happy to see that you back. -- Geagea (talk) 07:57, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

+1. I wish you to have fun around here again. --Nemo 23:34, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
+1 (creating a userpage?) --Steinsplitter (talk) 13:13, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
thanks to all of you - nice to see some of the friendly folk still around :) --Herby talk thyme 16:59, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
Good to see your name pop up again. Hope you have a great 2015 in your wikimedia world and beyond. FloNight♥♥♥ 18:00, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
+1 too. Enjoy. Now, you may use my user's page Clin.--Jebulon (talk) 20:28, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
+1 Hey, nice to read you :-) - Amada44  talk to me 20:58, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
+1 too. Good to have you back! --Slaunger (talk) 22:34, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks to all for reminding me just how nice many folk on Commons are :-) --Herby talk thyme 18:17, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
Hi Herbythyme, I am glad to see you back! Regards, AFBorchert (talk) 08:22, 24 January 2015 (UTC)