Category talk:Wikimedia servers in Amsterdam (Haarlem)

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Category:Kennisnet[edit]

This category is higly redundant with Category:Wikimedia_servers_in_Amsterdam_(Haarlem). There are currently 17 pictures in the former, of which 16 are pictures of Wikimedia servers, which is why some of them already were, all others now are after I added them, in Category:Wikimedia_servers_in_Amsterdam_(Haarlem). EddieGP (talk) 10:49, 14 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure if I understand. Is Kennisnet a wikimedia server in Amsterdam? If yes, why isn't Category:Kennisnet a sub-category of Category:Wikimedia_servers_in_Amsterdam_(Haarlem)? - Themightyquill (talk) 18:11, 14 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for the late reply. So, as far as I got it, Kennisnet is one of the companys hosting the wikimedia servers in Amsterdam. That is, Wikimedia doesn't build a server building themselves but instead they pay companies - in this case Kennisnet - to serve some things to them: They don't need to build walls, they don't need to install power cables in the building, they don't need to talk to internet service providers to have that building somehow connected to the internet, they don't need to bring racks into the server rooms. They pay Kennisnet to do these things, and the WMF "just" orders servers and puts in their hardware in the Kennisnet building and install it. The WMF has two datacenters in/near Amsterdam, one of which is hosted by Kennisnet (and the other isn't).
We do have a category Category:Wikimedia_servers_in_Amsterdam_(Haarlem) as well as the same for Ashburn, the same for Carrollton and two more like those, all as sub-categories of Category:Wikimedia_servers_by_location. So we should definitely keep Category:Wikimedia_servers_in_Amsterdam_(Haarlem) the way it is: It is consistent with the overall structure below the WMF servers category. It holds all pictures that we have of the WMF servers in Amsterdam, which are 19 files currently. Of these, 3 files belong to the datacenter in Amsterdam which IS NOT hosted by Kennisnet (the OE16-toolserver ones) and 16 files belong to the other datacenter in Amsterdam which IS hosted by Kennisnet. The latter 16 files are therefor also categorized as Category:Kennisnet. This category in addition holds one single file (so 17 files over all): File:KennisnetGebouw.JPG shows the Kennisnet building in which the Wikimedia servers are, but is not a picture of the servers themselves and thus is not categorized as Category:Wikimedia_servers_in_Amsterdam_(Haarlem). EddieGP (talk) 19:51, 16 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
There is currently overlap between the content of the two categories but they are inherently different, so there is room for both to expand in such a way that there wouldn't be overlap. I don't see this as a major problem. - Themightyquill (talk) 08:18, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Except maybe that Category:Kennisnet should not be a sub-category of Category:Wikimedia servers if they also host other content. - Themightyquill (talk) 08:19, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Stale discussion. @EddieGP and Themightyquill: I removed the nominated category from the parent Category:Wikimedia servers. It seems that CFD can be closed--Estopedist1 (talk) 16:29, 23 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Leaving separate in case of expansion. --. Themightyquill (talk) 18:46, 24 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]